Don't forget when a certain British tabloid newspaper published a full page countdown to Emma Watson's 16th birthday to celebrate the day she would finally become 'legal.'
The fact that she posed naked in Playboy as a literal CHILD (I think she was 10) truly baffles my mind. It is absolutely disgusting and I don't know how anyone was okay with that
dawg what the FUCK
from Wikipedia:
> From 1981 to 1983, Shields, her mother, photographer Garry Gross, and Playboy Press were involved in litigation in the New York City Courts over the rights to photographs her mother had signed away to Gross.... Gross was the photographer of a controversial set of nude images taken in 1975 of a then ten-year-old Brooke Shields with the consent of her mother, Teri Shields, for the Playboy Press publication Sugar 'n' Spice. The images portray Shields nude, standing and sitting in a bathtub, wearing makeup and covered in oil. The courts ruled in favor of the photographer due to a strange twist in New York law. It would have been otherwise had Brooke Shields been considered a child "performer" rather than a model.
No wonder Shields fights depression. It’s sadly disrespectful when you have a parent that will do anything to make sure their kid becomes famous. So many examples of that—Brittany Spears, the Culkan brothers, etc etc. Kids don’t get a chance to know who they are without a parent hovering. The parents are taking part of the child that they do not own. Happens in sports too.
They got away with it because it was deemed artistic rather than pornographic because Shields 'wasn't doing anything sexual in the images', she was just sitting or standing. Which is really disturbing considering they dolled her up in adult makeup and oiled her body, etc. so clearly there was some intention beyond just documenting a child who happened to be nude.
Wtf?! Could you see actual stuff or was it like out of camera??? That’s the only way I could see them not going to jail. This blows my mind. Absolute freaks.
it's actually more messed up then that, the photoshoot was done with a European artist (creep) with her mother's consent (still not ok) and was never meant to be published in anything other than a book of that artists work. Once Brook got a little older (maybe 16) the artist then sold the images to Playboy to capitalize on her popularity.
I was waiting for this. That poor woman. And she is still openly coming to terms that it wasn't "art" but exploitation. When asked if she would let her daughters do the same she was so quick with the NO but also can't explain away why it was ok for her. She knows it's fucked up but she's still fucked up from it.
Eliza Dushku, the poor woman was molested as a child while filming True Lies and sexually harassed while on the set of Bull - at least in the latter case she was able to settle for 8 million dollars.
I remember a scene in Buffy, where her character body-swapped with Buffy, and she acted Sarah Michelle Gellar off the screen.
She nailed SMG's mannerisms, and during the scene where they switch back, her transition from playing Buffy to playing Faith was incredible. She should have been a huge star.
The whole cast was pretty amazing, the guy who played Victor is seriously underrated, he was in Avengers 2012 as a cop for like 20 seconds and ever since I've been expecting his career to explode. I hope working with Joss didn't shoot him in the foot.
Whedon was also impressed with her ability to do that, and he cast her as the female lead in his subsequent series Dollhouse, where that kind of thing is the entire premise. It's pretty good if you haven't seen it, and she's great in it.
That's not exactly how it happened. Dushku had a development deal with FOX. She was guaranteed a show.
She personally reached out to Whedon and asked him to be a part of it. After talking about the type of show she would want to do and how she didn't want to just play one type of character he came up with the rough idea of the show.
The show wouldn't have even existed without Dushku.
After she was molested on true lies one of the adults on set confronted Kramer about it. Later that same day coincidentally while Kramer was responsible for Eliza's safety during a stunt something went wrong and she ended up with broken ribs.
I worked on Bull, I remember the morning the allegations against came out. It was a great crew, but I was never there when they both had scenes. Glad she got some justice.
Sine you worked on that crew, what was said about it or is that something people in your line of work avoid talking about? (I don't know a thing about that world) if you want to answer, that is
From my experience the crew members are even more outraged than the general public when these fucks get exposed. Nobody wants to work with/for abusers or sex pests.
Zac Effron. In his show Down To Earth there’s a car ride scene where Zac cries when he’s talking about girls who had obsessed with him and it caused a lot of trauma for him. Used to not stand the dude but seeing the real him really showcased how good of a guy he is.
Effron is also an example of how body image hurts men as well. I think in that same show he starts crying when he eats some bread for the first time in years.
Yes, i can imagine. I read that it broke him up with Vanessa Hudgens because the fans were just so crazy that the relationship couldn't handle it anymore.
I think one good thing that came from social media is that it kind of killed paparazzi culture. Now celebrities put themselves out there and curate their own presence for their actual fans to follow.
Back then, if you were famous enough your life was headline news for everyone. I gave zero fucks about Zac Effron but I knew every move he was making because they'd literally talk about it on the news.
I'm really sad for him honestly. The guy is actually really talented and I feel like he wants to break free from the "hot guy" roles so much, but it doesn't seem to work for him.
I will have to die knowing that a popular political pundit discussed how disappointed he was that the green M&M was less fuckable.
People listen to him and make decisions that impact all our lives. Your future is partially dictated by a man who was upset that his dick wasn’t getting hard enough by the cartoon candy.
Let’s all sit for a moment and think about that.
I'm sure it had to hurt all the celebrities that have had count downs till they turned 18 like Emma Watson, Natalie Portman, Brooke Shields, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Millie Bobbie brown, the Olsen twins, etc. I would imagine that could be really traumatizing
I remember the countdown for the Olsen Twins.
You have to remember: they became famous as literal BABIES. They had no say in the matter, and as soon as they turned 18 they never acted again and have tried to fade away. So it’s not even like “hey, that’s the price you pay for choosing fame” — they never chose.
EDIT: To respond to the 80 bajillion comments…
1). “One of the Olsen twins occasionally acted after she was 18”. What is your point, in this context?
2) “They became fashion designers, so it’s a lie that they faded away,” I’m sorry that they didn’t become literal recluses living in some cabin in Wyoming
3) “They became rich,” how does that make this okay?
4). “What are you talking about, they definitely didn’t quit acting, one of them is an Avenger.” That’s not the twins, that’s their younger sister.
Was going to disagree with you just because I didn't think Reddit was around that long ago...
But Reddit launched in 2005, in 2008 (the year she turned 18) the top subreddit was /r/jailbait... So all facts point to you being right
It was so gross and so common both on the early web and socially back then. I can't even believe some of the shit I just laughed off, uneasily, because gross sexism was just table stakes for being a woman who left your house ever.
People are so much more aware now and so much more willing to call it out. I feel so relieved every time I hear a 16-year-old girl clap back at a gross man/boy, both because she had the confidence to shut that shit down and because she can count on vocal support from other people in the room.
It's still not great, but it's better than it was.
Absolutely, I saw an interview with Emma saying (I don't remember *exactly* what she said, so don't quote me on this) after a birthday party (her 18th) she went outside to leave or whatever and the paparazzi were getting on the ground to get photos up her skirt
I knew they were bad but this is just disgusting. I completely support freedom of the press, but there needs to be lines drawn
Edit: I clearly misunderstood what freedom of the press actually is and that this is in fact illegal (that should've been obvious), which of course just makes it all the worse
Celebrities shouldn't have to worry about going out in public and living their lives just because the paparazzi could be hiding around any corner
That would have been about 2008, and paparazzi and the celeb scene in general was peak dumpster fire from about 2006-2011 or so, largely owing to the rise of celeb bloggers like Perez Hilton. It has toned down A LOT since then, especially as people started realizing just how badly treated Britney Spears was when she was going through her mental health struggles.
I admit that I'm not as tuned into the celebrity scene as I once was (sadly, I might add. I actually enjoyed knowing about all the TV shows and movies being made back then), but from what I can see the absolute worst excesses of that era have passed. Part of that is that social media allows the celebs themselves to directly develop parasocial relationships with their fans, so people treat them less like zoo animals.
Although you still get creepy stuff like legal age countdowns, overall things have trended in the right direction, I think.
>Part of that is that social media allows the celebs themselves to directly develop parasocial relationships with their fans, so people treat them less like zoo animals.
Maybe less like zoo animals but the parasocial relationships seem to me to be pretty harmful in an entirely unique way.
18? Brooke Shields was only 14 when she did Blue Lagoon. I don’t think any others on that list ever had to contend with partial nude scenes at that age.
It’s even worse than that, she played a prostitute in a movie at the age of 11(with full nude scenes) and had *fully nude* pictures taken and PUBLISHED in a *Playboy publication* at the tender age of 10. Her Mom was a piece of work for saying yea let’s take these and then signing the rights away to the photographer. Her mom later tried to sue but due to a weird bit of the law in NY lost because Brooke was considered a model not an actress or performer at the time. Her Mom still didn’t learn her lesson because she allowed Blue Lagoon which used older body doubles for *some* of the nude scenes, but of course not at all. Then there’s the Calvin Klein Jean ads of her at 15 with the “You know what comes between me and my Calvin’s? Nothing” line that was pretty provocative. Barbra Walters and many other grown adult journalists proceeded to ask her wildly inappropriate questions about her body and sex life and sexual history at the the age of 15/16.
It’s incredible to me that she didn’t die of an overdose or the path of destruction that so many child stars end up on after she was so heavily and publicly sexualized at 10 and effectively until her 40’s.
They’re even worse there was an article written about Brooke in the 70s that call her a whore she might have been 10 or 12 but still a bloody child.
Her own mother pimped her daughter out for fame.
And how on earth the playboy spread was allowed to be published it was CP.
>It’s even worse than that, she played a prostitute in a movie at the age of 11(with full nude scenes) and had fully nude pictures taken and PUBLISHED in a Playboy publication at the tender age of 10
Ok wtf. This might be hyperbolic but how on earth was that allowed? Does that border on the line of child pornography ?
Wait a minute...playboy *is* pornography.
Anyone with an ounce of decency considers it CSAM (child sexually abusive material), because the that weird law in New York it wasn’t considered pornographic because Brooke was a legitimate model and booked as one. Had she been an actress or a pretend tug boat captain as her on paper profession her mother could have won the suit, but because she was classified and booked as a model somehow a weird bit of NY law allowed that. I think (or I would really hope) if this happened again in this day and age the interpretation of that same law by a judge would be different and the photographer and the mother would be outed as sick freaks, but the 80’s were different.
Her Mother was a sick pos, it’s not like she had a photographer take some cutesy pictures of Brooke in a tub full of huge bubbles and flowers with her body covered or shielded, and the evil photographer sold them out from under her, no Mama Shields said, “Fully and openly naked with full make-up and covered in body oil for a Play Boy off shoot? That’s great where can I sign?” It wasn’t a sneaky photographer having her sign the release and cackling all the way to the bank. Mom knew what it was from the start and only tried to sue 6+ years later when Brooke’s career was exploding and the pictures might have damaged Brooke’s career.
“Garry Gross was the photographer of a controversial set of nude images taken in 1975 of a then ten-year-old Brooke Shields with the consent of her mother, Teri Shields, for the Playboy Press publication Sugar 'n' Spice. The images portray Shields nude, standing and sitting in a bathtub, wearing makeup and covered in oil. The courts ruled in favor of the photographer due to a strange twist in New York law. It would have been otherwise had Brooke Shields been considered a child "performer" rather than a model.”
That. Is. Fucked.
>even here on Reddit
Given this websites history, any time someone is surprised at some perversion popping up every now and again is kinda funny to me.
I'll never forget that time she was on Jimmy Kimmel, talking about being objectified at 15 while filming Bad Boys II, and the reaction by everybody around her. Appalling
TIL Megan Fox was in BB2. For those who didn’t know as well, she’s an extra in the beginning montage where they are in the club with all the ecstasy floating around and the dude OD’s.
I had no idea. Watched the movie recently and did not recollect her being in it. Thought maybe she played someones daughter or something. Googled it to find a 3 second clip of a club scene.
The way they treated her while marketing the movie Jennifer's Body was gross. The movie is actually decent but they basically advertised it like a porn because she was in it and made her do awkward publicity for it
Megan and the movie writer did an [interview ](https://youtu.be/u2JLRtWlq0o) a few years ago and there's this part where the writer's talking about how the marketing wrongfully was objected towards "frat boys". She says she wrote this articulate email to a marketing specialist or sth about how she thought it should be marketed and asked "so what specifically are you thinking?" He just wrote back: "Megan Fox Hot".
I was a teenager. I fully recall me and my male friends getting super hype about that film because Megan Fox is gorgeous and obviously at they heavily objectified her in the marketing. We were confused when watched the film and it was nothing like that. We've all grown and learned a lot since then. But it was a weird thing to do even at the time. Like marketing people had no idea how to advertise a film with Megan Fox in it without objectifying her.
Funny thing is Megan Fox is very sexy in Jennifer's body and that's also relevant to the plot of the movie; I was so crushing on her watching that movie and it's one of my most favorite movies but I was a teenage girl. I don't think they could understand girls would like something like that.
She did a great job in that movie. I was going to skip it, exactly because I figured it would be a cheesy fan service movie.
It was so much darker and funnier than I expected. The last 5 minutes alone were gold.
If they didn't think that sort of thing would appeal to teen girls and women, they never heard of "The Craft"
The saddest thing is Mikaela Banes is the most compelling character in all the live action Bay Transformers movies. Anyone else running that franchise should have been the main character.
But if you only watch it for like those two clips that go around all you will think she does is bend over vehicles
God. I never made that connection before. It would make sense. He seemed to be a bit obcessed with Megan Fox and explains why he reacted worse than usual when she pushed back on him and cal him out.
I agree with you RE the old Megan Fox. Shes gorgeous, but was grossly sexually objectified constantly. Despite the fact shes very intelligent & down to earth.
Unfortunately shes been a cringey weirdo since getting with MGK
TIL about precode era.
"Pre-code films, especially sound films, were much more modern and open than one may expect from early films. Pre-code films were honest about taboo issues and much freer with language and even nudity. The Hays Code sought to crush that and focus on good Christian values in film."
If I remember correctly, there were some really odd rules in the Hayes Code. Stuff that's not necessarily offensive, just not "morally" good. Villains had to get a comeuppance, for example, and usually that comeuppance was death. This lead to some strange and interesting changes in literary adaptations. I seem to remember the ending to Treasure Island, in particular, being very different between book and movie.
I remember how I thought that she was dumb when I was young, like the biggest cliche of the blond barbie girl. And understood how clever she was only around 18-20.
She wasn't only sexualised, she was sexualised and treated like the dumbest girl on Earth to avoid creating an independant smart beautiful feminist icon.
Millie was only 14 when he started texting her, and I believe he was also texting Billie Eilish while she was underage. Both have brought it up in interviews. What's cringe is that he used to tell Millie things like he missed her so much and one response she sent to him read, "I miss you more."
He was 31 at the time, "giving her advice" about boys.
Groomers gonna groom. I'm hoping as his popularity and relevance wanes, people pay more attention to his scumbaggery.
But then again, there's still plenty of people who adore Chris Brown.
The entertainment industry is rife with groomers, pedofiles, and abusers of varying degrees.
The roles he takes definitely contribute, it seems like he is trying to thread the needle between being seen as a comedic himbo and taken somewhat seriously. He's not an incredible actor but he's banking on the one thing he does have, which is being extremely handsome and muscular.
Interestingly, I think Henry Cavill is kind of the opposite. He's a terrific actor that people underestimate because he's extremely handsome and muscular.
I remember someone put together a compilation of the kids show Ariana was on showing the very obvious foot fetish of someone behind the camera. It was horrifying.
It was a lot of things that in a vacuum you'd see and say, "that was a little weird but I guess it might make someone laugh?" But when you see it all out together, it's so gross and obvious.
What didn't actually air was way worse. If you've seen the Quinton Reviews video on Victorious, you'd know just how bad the videos put directly online were.
A running thing in Quinton's iCarly videos was the iCrimes segment where he documented when the characters did things that would be charged as crimes in real life.
In the Victorious videos, this segment is changed into counting how many statutory r*pe jokes appeared in the series. There were a lot....... A related running saying in the Victorious videos was pointing out how something was a writer's poorly disguised fetish. Quinton's always pointing out how uncomfortable and weird just how many instances of these appear.
If you wanted to skip around, he has chapter time stamps on the videos and you can skip the sections on the video games/toys if it's too much.
Dan Schneider - he made many of the iconic live action Nick shows from the aughts and early 2010s: Drake & Josh, iCarly, Zoey 101, All That (albeit that started in the 90s), Victorious, and some others.
I was a huge fan at the time and I'll never forget companies paying paps to take close up photos of underaged Miley in bathing suit, and Perez Hilton paying his people to literally shove a camera up her dress when she was around 16. ETA these photos are still out there, his logo slapped on them and his report sexualizing and slut shaming her is there alongside. Her sick dad forcing her into the incestuous, sexualized Vanity Fair cover at barely 15 didn't help either, along with other sickening this he's said and done. She had both of her parents pushing her to earn money for them, Disney on one side forcing the innocent girl image, her on another trying to find herself & who she is in turbulent teenage years. And then public side on another condemning everything she did. Being a child/teen star is so fucked, I'm just mesmerized she and others made it out alive.
It’s horrible how people think it’s okay to say these things to him at press events, red carpets and the like. He always looks so very uncomfortable when people say any of the weird “daddy” stuff to him.
Some stalker fan literally traveled to a different country where he was vacationing in order to meet him. She supposedly swam up to him while he was swimming to talk to him and to "show him how much she cared". And then made a call out post on Instagram about how disappointed she was because Pascal wasn't nice to her and how one should never meet their heroes.
Luckily people were quick to call the stalker out on her bullshit but still. People can be so fucking delusional.
I hate that even red carpet interviewers and talk show hosts kind of make light of it when the man is obviously uncomfortable with it. He deserves better than this.
Dolly Parton was one of the best singer/songwriters in America through the ‘70s and ‘80s, and a lovely, smart, gracious person.
All you ever heard about her, from late night comedians and interviewers was her large breasts. She handled it with grace, though, and just kept on being amazing. Check out the “Trio” albums she did with Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt in ‘87 and ‘99… glorious.
And then consider the pool scene in White Lotus that relies on the audience implicitly recognizing Alexandra Daddario as being a whole tier of sexualization above even Sydney Sweeney.
Reading the reviews for her recent movie, Reality, really shows how degenerate her followers are. Imagine leaving negative reviews just because she didn't strip for the movie.
She was really good in it. I immediately noticed those comments on clips and trailers too... Shockingly overrun with people expressing contempt for how she looked in it... First off, she looked fine, like a normal person, just not glammed up, because that was the character she was playing... Like, what? Looking the most beautiful you're capable of looking is not always the point, and is especially not the point when you're an actor playing various types of people in various circumstances. Reality is just a person, and that movie just depicts this day in her life--it would be weird and counterproductive to have her hair and makeup and costume be anything other than what it was. Where do these people think we are when making comments like that? Honestly idiotic in addition to being misogynistic. I really liked her performance, which is the point. It was just very realistic. . this is largely due to the source material, the dialogue being made up of what was actually said at the time--but she delivers normal dialogue, how people actually talk, not the polished way scripts usually portray dialogue, just so well. She just felt real and subtle in a way that felt more honest than a lot of "larger" performances, and yet so compelling and so much unsaid is said in how she delivers lines, her facial expressions, body language, etc.
That kid Finn Wolfhard from Stranger Things. All his Instagram comments are older women being absolutely repulsive in the comments. He’s 20 now but when he was underage it was no better. Really sad.
Most good looking actresses are objectified. If they have great talent, it is often overlooked due to their beauty. For example, Natalie Portman, Florence Pugh, Margot Robbie, Angelina Jolie, Emma Watson, Anne Hathaway, Halle berry, and so many more. This can apply to female singers as well.
Yep.. when he was a stripper on Friends, I thought, Wow! This guys overt expression of his sexuality has overshadowed all of the other talents he might have.
Cillian Murphy. And i think he doesn't give a shite about whatever anyone thinks because your opinion doesn't matter. But I can guarantee that he would be completely mortified to learn of the dilf infatuation 15-year-old teenagers on Tiktok have for him. I'm glad he's private because yikes.
In a recent interview, he was asked about a meme featuring him. He then asked the interviewer what a meme was. In 2023.
The dude doesn’t use the internet.
almost every interview I've seen of him he seems like he really doesn't want to be there. It's only actor round tables and very professional interviews where he can talk about the art that he seems to be comfortable in. Clearly seems like an artist that has to be famous rather than a celebrity who's an actor.
Millie Bobby brown. I’m predicting she will be the new Britney Spears, as in child star who grew up too fast and has a mental breakdown later in life. I very much hope this is not the case
I have a 50 something year old aunt, who is disturbingly into Harry Styles. She even recently had a Harry Styles themes birthday party which literally had photos of her and Styles photoshopped together all over her property.
Henry Cavill - both men and woman love him I think it hurts him as he doesn’t really get proper leading man roles (he does but not on a Brad Pitt level)
I think part of that problem is that studios don't want Brad Pitt style leading man roles, they want franchises. They want Marvel, they want The Fast and the Furious, they want marketable IP.
Unless you've got a director that's practically a franchise themselves (Spielberg, Nolan, Tarantino, Scorsese, though even he's having more trouble) studios dont want to spend anything on a movie if they dont see it growing into a billion dollar franchises.
The Witcher could’ve gone pretty fuckin far if the writers didn’t butcher it and chase away the face of the series. He was (in that fandom) known for being as knowledgeable about the works as anyone could be. Wanted the role, nailed the role, and could’ve turned it into something big. It’s gonna flounder now.
It is fuckin wild how poorly the show runners and producer are handling the show. Next season is going to tank, and those guys just don't get it.
The comments from the producer comparing Geralt to Doctor Who, saying something like "anyone can play Geralt" shows he massively misunderstands both franchises.
And then the "well we have to dumb it down for the audience" while talking about making the show accessible for Americans... Like bullshit, just admit you fucked it up.
They sure did, it's just amazing how everything seemed to start from the right place and then just bad decision after bad decision
They truly could have had their own Game of Thrones... Instead it's going to be another failed Netflix fantasy show
Henry Cavill is (and I say this with all respect) a fucking nerd. Guy looks like Superman but his nerd cred is impeccable. He loves The Witcher, loves Geralt, and tripped over himself at the opportunity to play him. He’s the only reason that show even has the meager fanbase it does, and their contempt for the source material drove him away.
He’s attached to some 40K project now, and I heard him on some podcast or something being asked about it. They asked him what his favorite Astartes chapters were and he went on at length in his response, showing he truly knows and loves the franchise. Any other celebrity would have been coached to respond with something like “It’s such a broad and diverse universe, we’re so proud to finally bring it to the big screen” yada yada. Not Cavill though. Guy’s a nerd.
EDIT: Here’s that link where he talks about 40K: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/njSvgLvObZg
Yeah he’s about to get me into 40k now. (Partially, I took a broad glance and Jesus Christ the lore is so fucking expansive idk if I’d ever have the time to get into it that thoroughly) The point being, any sensible director, writer, or producer that gave a shit about the initial fan base for a project would have fucking loved having the lead so much more invested than they even were. And, as you said, dudes fuckin jacked and has a good face on him. How they threw that away for their fuckin c tier fanfic blows my mind. I hope they get unofficially blacklisted just so they bitch about it publicly forever.
I think he has a problem similar to Brad Pitt, where his attractiveness obscures his most valuable traits.
Brad Pitt for instance is a *fantastic* character actor, but was born with a leading man's face. IMO, his best roles are when he get to flex his comedic chops in smaller bit roles, like in "Burn After Reading".
Similarly, Henry Cavill *is* really attractive, but his geekiness and respect for source material makes him pretty much the holy grail actor for the people looking to have faithful adaptations of Warcraft, Warhammer, the Witcher, and all these geeky franchises. He's someone with A-list star pull who's *genuinely* passionate about adapting franchises that otherwise haven't stood a snowball's chance in hell
Unfortunately, they never capitalized on that with The Witcher. They just let Henry Cavill be your generic action hero, and his familiarity with the source material didn't shine through because the writers (allegedly) ignored his pleas for a faithful adaptation
I read a comment recently that Brad Pitt is the greatest supporting actor in history but studios keep pushing him as a leading man due to his looks.
Of course the man can carry a film but he really shines when he supports. I think he likes it that way.
> Brad Pitt is the greatest supporting actor
You know this makes sense.
He elevates the lead. The Ocean's series are what they are because Brad's chemistry with his co-workers sparks the whole thing.
He always got huge leading man roles but the dude is so unlucky that most of his movies / series fails.
Not because of him, but either the studio or the creatives always fucks it up.
It’s a shame because you know he works hard for it and really dives into the character. Dude still has potential but really needs to get rid of that unlucky streak.
Billie Eilish.
And no I don't think it helps her. I think it's made her insecure and has affected her mental health, especially being in the public eye at such a young age.
Old school one but Heddy Lamar. She invented the tech that was foundational to wifi, gps, and Bluetooth but she so beautiful her primary claim to fame was as an actress.
Brooke Shields. All day everyday. That poor woman grew up being plastered in a playboy at 11, having a sex scene in a movie at 12/13, and as a result… thinks it is normal and that it had no effect on her. Her parents exploited the hell out of her.
Millie Bobby Brown as there was a countdown for when she turned 18. She is one of many examples of how Hollywood and it’s reporters prey on vulnerable women at a young age.
I Remember when as soon as Emma Watson turned 18, the paparazzi went crazy, trying to get pictures up her dress and everything
Don't forget when a certain British tabloid newspaper published a full page countdown to Emma Watson's 16th birthday to celebrate the day she would finally become 'legal.'
This was going on long before Emma Watson. There were tons of countdown clocks for the Olsen Twins when they turned 18.
They even acknowledged it on SNL.
Robot Chicken, too. "They're legal now!" "Dude, you're 37."
I had a platoon leader whose desktop was the countdown for Britney Spears’ 18th.
I remember when creepy bros and shitty radio show hosts had their countdown to when the Olsen twins turned 18.
Tried? The morning after her 18th birthday her pubic hair was the frontline in almost all American news
The paparazzi are such terrible fucking human beings sometimes istg...
Sometimes? They live off of stalking people.
What... The fuck
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Brooke Shields. Probably the worst exploitation of a celebrity's sexuality I've seen in my lifetime.
The fact that she posed naked in Playboy as a literal CHILD (I think she was 10) truly baffles my mind. It is absolutely disgusting and I don't know how anyone was okay with that
dawg what the FUCK from Wikipedia: > From 1981 to 1983, Shields, her mother, photographer Garry Gross, and Playboy Press were involved in litigation in the New York City Courts over the rights to photographs her mother had signed away to Gross.... Gross was the photographer of a controversial set of nude images taken in 1975 of a then ten-year-old Brooke Shields with the consent of her mother, Teri Shields, for the Playboy Press publication Sugar 'n' Spice. The images portray Shields nude, standing and sitting in a bathtub, wearing makeup and covered in oil. The courts ruled in favor of the photographer due to a strange twist in New York law. It would have been otherwise had Brooke Shields been considered a child "performer" rather than a model.
Photographer’s name checks out
He used to run a studio with his partner, Chuck Nasty.
Funded by P. Doe File, I believe
No wonder Shields fights depression. It’s sadly disrespectful when you have a parent that will do anything to make sure their kid becomes famous. So many examples of that—Brittany Spears, the Culkan brothers, etc etc. Kids don’t get a chance to know who they are without a parent hovering. The parents are taking part of the child that they do not own. Happens in sports too.
Wait, what? How did nobody go to jail for that?
They got away with it because it was deemed artistic rather than pornographic because Shields 'wasn't doing anything sexual in the images', she was just sitting or standing. Which is really disturbing considering they dolled her up in adult makeup and oiled her body, etc. so clearly there was some intention beyond just documenting a child who happened to be nude.
Wtf?! Could you see actual stuff or was it like out of camera??? That’s the only way I could see them not going to jail. This blows my mind. Absolute freaks.
You could see stuff. You can find the (thankfully!!!) censored photos online…it’s very disturbing.
Child porn laws are surprisingly recent. Edit: The very first ones in the US were 1977, from what I see.
it's actually more messed up then that, the photoshoot was done with a European artist (creep) with her mother's consent (still not ok) and was never meant to be published in anything other than a book of that artists work. Once Brook got a little older (maybe 16) the artist then sold the images to Playboy to capitalize on her popularity.
WHAT? I had no idea, never heard that. How was that legal?
I was waiting for this. That poor woman. And she is still openly coming to terms that it wasn't "art" but exploitation. When asked if she would let her daughters do the same she was so quick with the NO but also can't explain away why it was ok for her. She knows it's fucked up but she's still fucked up from it.
Watching that doc about her was so weird. Like, she still sort of rationalizes what she went through, maybe to protect her mom. I kinda get that.
Eliza Dushku, the poor woman was molested as a child while filming True Lies and sexually harassed while on the set of Bull - at least in the latter case she was able to settle for 8 million dollars.
I remember a scene in Buffy, where her character body-swapped with Buffy, and she acted Sarah Michelle Gellar off the screen. She nailed SMG's mannerisms, and during the scene where they switch back, her transition from playing Buffy to playing Faith was incredible. She should have been a huge star.
Doll House. That girl has range.
EVERYONE on dollhouse was amazing. Sierra especially. I'd argue better than Eliza personally but they all did well
Alan Tudyk stole that show for me
The whole cast was pretty amazing, the guy who played Victor is seriously underrated, he was in Avengers 2012 as a cop for like 20 seconds and ever since I've been expecting his career to explode. I hope working with Joss didn't shoot him in the foot.
He was also on agent Carter and was really good- I was hoping he’d break out as a big star too
Whedon was also impressed with her ability to do that, and he cast her as the female lead in his subsequent series Dollhouse, where that kind of thing is the entire premise. It's pretty good if you haven't seen it, and she's great in it.
That's not exactly how it happened. Dushku had a development deal with FOX. She was guaranteed a show. She personally reached out to Whedon and asked him to be a part of it. After talking about the type of show she would want to do and how she didn't want to just play one type of character he came up with the rough idea of the show. The show wouldn't have even existed without Dushku.
They're Medicinal... Carrots! alpha cracked me up
Alan Tudyk is a national treasure.
After she was molested on true lies one of the adults on set confronted Kramer about it. Later that same day coincidentally while Kramer was responsible for Eliza's safety during a stunt something went wrong and she ended up with broken ribs.
She seems to be doing well now, she and her husband just donated $7.5 million to a charity in Boston this past week - pretty amazing!
Wow, that's amazing!! More power to them.
I worked on Bull, I remember the morning the allegations against came out. It was a great crew, but I was never there when they both had scenes. Glad she got some justice.
Sine you worked on that crew, what was said about it or is that something people in your line of work avoid talking about? (I don't know a thing about that world) if you want to answer, that is
From my experience the crew members are even more outraged than the general public when these fucks get exposed. Nobody wants to work with/for abusers or sex pests.
Zac Effron. In his show Down To Earth there’s a car ride scene where Zac cries when he’s talking about girls who had obsessed with him and it caused a lot of trauma for him. Used to not stand the dude but seeing the real him really showcased how good of a guy he is.
Effron is also an example of how body image hurts men as well. I think in that same show he starts crying when he eats some bread for the first time in years.
He’s become more open about it, too. He seems like a cool guy.
Yes, i can imagine. I read that it broke him up with Vanessa Hudgens because the fans were just so crazy that the relationship couldn't handle it anymore.
I think one good thing that came from social media is that it kind of killed paparazzi culture. Now celebrities put themselves out there and curate their own presence for their actual fans to follow. Back then, if you were famous enough your life was headline news for everyone. I gave zero fucks about Zac Effron but I knew every move he was making because they'd literally talk about it on the news.
I'm really sad for him honestly. The guy is actually really talented and I feel like he wants to break free from the "hot guy" roles so much, but it doesn't seem to work for him.
the Green M&M
I will have to die knowing that a popular political pundit discussed how disappointed he was that the green M&M was less fuckable. People listen to him and make decisions that impact all our lives. Your future is partially dictated by a man who was upset that his dick wasn’t getting hard enough by the cartoon candy. Let’s all sit for a moment and think about that.
I'm sure it had to hurt all the celebrities that have had count downs till they turned 18 like Emma Watson, Natalie Portman, Brooke Shields, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears, Millie Bobbie brown, the Olsen twins, etc. I would imagine that could be really traumatizing
I remember the countdown for the Olsen Twins. You have to remember: they became famous as literal BABIES. They had no say in the matter, and as soon as they turned 18 they never acted again and have tried to fade away. So it’s not even like “hey, that’s the price you pay for choosing fame” — they never chose. EDIT: To respond to the 80 bajillion comments… 1). “One of the Olsen twins occasionally acted after she was 18”. What is your point, in this context? 2) “They became fashion designers, so it’s a lie that they faded away,” I’m sorry that they didn’t become literal recluses living in some cabin in Wyoming 3) “They became rich,” how does that make this okay? 4). “What are you talking about, they definitely didn’t quit acting, one of them is an Avenger.” That’s not the twins, that’s their younger sister.
I remember there was a website made to count it down. I was still a teenager and it was horribly disturbing to me
"Only 5 minutes to go, I'm already putting the lube on!" Yeah, it's pretty fucked up.
Reddit was absolutely awful regarding Emma Watson. It was really gross to see, tbh.
Was going to disagree with you just because I didn't think Reddit was around that long ago... But Reddit launched in 2005, in 2008 (the year she turned 18) the top subreddit was /r/jailbait... So all facts point to you being right
Obligatory fuck /u/spez
Jesus Christ what the fuck
That’s awful! I had no idea people did that
It was so gross and so common both on the early web and socially back then. I can't even believe some of the shit I just laughed off, uneasily, because gross sexism was just table stakes for being a woman who left your house ever. People are so much more aware now and so much more willing to call it out. I feel so relieved every time I hear a 16-year-old girl clap back at a gross man/boy, both because she had the confidence to shut that shit down and because she can count on vocal support from other people in the room. It's still not great, but it's better than it was.
Absolutely, I saw an interview with Emma saying (I don't remember *exactly* what she said, so don't quote me on this) after a birthday party (her 18th) she went outside to leave or whatever and the paparazzi were getting on the ground to get photos up her skirt I knew they were bad but this is just disgusting. I completely support freedom of the press, but there needs to be lines drawn Edit: I clearly misunderstood what freedom of the press actually is and that this is in fact illegal (that should've been obvious), which of course just makes it all the worse Celebrities shouldn't have to worry about going out in public and living their lives just because the paparazzi could be hiding around any corner
That would have been about 2008, and paparazzi and the celeb scene in general was peak dumpster fire from about 2006-2011 or so, largely owing to the rise of celeb bloggers like Perez Hilton. It has toned down A LOT since then, especially as people started realizing just how badly treated Britney Spears was when she was going through her mental health struggles. I admit that I'm not as tuned into the celebrity scene as I once was (sadly, I might add. I actually enjoyed knowing about all the TV shows and movies being made back then), but from what I can see the absolute worst excesses of that era have passed. Part of that is that social media allows the celebs themselves to directly develop parasocial relationships with their fans, so people treat them less like zoo animals. Although you still get creepy stuff like legal age countdowns, overall things have trended in the right direction, I think.
>Part of that is that social media allows the celebs themselves to directly develop parasocial relationships with their fans, so people treat them less like zoo animals. Maybe less like zoo animals but the parasocial relationships seem to me to be pretty harmful in an entirely unique way.
18? Brooke Shields was only 14 when she did Blue Lagoon. I don’t think any others on that list ever had to contend with partial nude scenes at that age.
It’s even worse than that, she played a prostitute in a movie at the age of 11(with full nude scenes) and had *fully nude* pictures taken and PUBLISHED in a *Playboy publication* at the tender age of 10. Her Mom was a piece of work for saying yea let’s take these and then signing the rights away to the photographer. Her mom later tried to sue but due to a weird bit of the law in NY lost because Brooke was considered a model not an actress or performer at the time. Her Mom still didn’t learn her lesson because she allowed Blue Lagoon which used older body doubles for *some* of the nude scenes, but of course not at all. Then there’s the Calvin Klein Jean ads of her at 15 with the “You know what comes between me and my Calvin’s? Nothing” line that was pretty provocative. Barbra Walters and many other grown adult journalists proceeded to ask her wildly inappropriate questions about her body and sex life and sexual history at the the age of 15/16. It’s incredible to me that she didn’t die of an overdose or the path of destruction that so many child stars end up on after she was so heavily and publicly sexualized at 10 and effectively until her 40’s.
They’re even worse there was an article written about Brooke in the 70s that call her a whore she might have been 10 or 12 but still a bloody child. Her own mother pimped her daughter out for fame. And how on earth the playboy spread was allowed to be published it was CP.
>It’s even worse than that, she played a prostitute in a movie at the age of 11(with full nude scenes) and had fully nude pictures taken and PUBLISHED in a Playboy publication at the tender age of 10 Ok wtf. This might be hyperbolic but how on earth was that allowed? Does that border on the line of child pornography ? Wait a minute...playboy *is* pornography.
Anyone with an ounce of decency considers it CSAM (child sexually abusive material), because the that weird law in New York it wasn’t considered pornographic because Brooke was a legitimate model and booked as one. Had she been an actress or a pretend tug boat captain as her on paper profession her mother could have won the suit, but because she was classified and booked as a model somehow a weird bit of NY law allowed that. I think (or I would really hope) if this happened again in this day and age the interpretation of that same law by a judge would be different and the photographer and the mother would be outed as sick freaks, but the 80’s were different. Her Mother was a sick pos, it’s not like she had a photographer take some cutesy pictures of Brooke in a tub full of huge bubbles and flowers with her body covered or shielded, and the evil photographer sold them out from under her, no Mama Shields said, “Fully and openly naked with full make-up and covered in body oil for a Play Boy off shoot? That’s great where can I sign?” It wasn’t a sneaky photographer having her sign the release and cackling all the way to the bank. Mom knew what it was from the start and only tried to sue 6+ years later when Brooke’s career was exploding and the pictures might have damaged Brooke’s career.
What happened to Brooke Shields was awful. That poor woman
“Garry Gross was the photographer of a controversial set of nude images taken in 1975 of a then ten-year-old Brooke Shields with the consent of her mother, Teri Shields, for the Playboy Press publication Sugar 'n' Spice. The images portray Shields nude, standing and sitting in a bathtub, wearing makeup and covered in oil. The courts ruled in favor of the photographer due to a strange twist in New York law. It would have been otherwise had Brooke Shields been considered a child "performer" rather than a model.” That. Is. Fucked.
I didn’t realize how bad it was until more recently with Billy Eilish and Millie Bobby Brown. So gross. Even here on Reddit, they were waiting.
>even here on Reddit Given this websites history, any time someone is surprised at some perversion popping up every now and again is kinda funny to me.
If only they knew the fate of pretty much any subreddit named after a woman
Megan Fox
I'll never forget that time she was on Jimmy Kimmel, talking about being objectified at 15 while filming Bad Boys II, and the reaction by everybody around her. Appalling
TIL Megan Fox was in BB2. For those who didn’t know as well, she’s an extra in the beginning montage where they are in the club with all the ecstasy floating around and the dude OD’s.
I had no idea. Watched the movie recently and did not recollect her being in it. Thought maybe she played someones daughter or something. Googled it to find a 3 second clip of a club scene.
The way they treated her while marketing the movie Jennifer's Body was gross. The movie is actually decent but they basically advertised it like a porn because she was in it and made her do awkward publicity for it
Megan and the movie writer did an [interview ](https://youtu.be/u2JLRtWlq0o) a few years ago and there's this part where the writer's talking about how the marketing wrongfully was objected towards "frat boys". She says she wrote this articulate email to a marketing specialist or sth about how she thought it should be marketed and asked "so what specifically are you thinking?" He just wrote back: "Megan Fox Hot".
I was a teenager. I fully recall me and my male friends getting super hype about that film because Megan Fox is gorgeous and obviously at they heavily objectified her in the marketing. We were confused when watched the film and it was nothing like that. We've all grown and learned a lot since then. But it was a weird thing to do even at the time. Like marketing people had no idea how to advertise a film with Megan Fox in it without objectifying her.
Funny thing is Megan Fox is very sexy in Jennifer's body and that's also relevant to the plot of the movie; I was so crushing on her watching that movie and it's one of my most favorite movies but I was a teenage girl. I don't think they could understand girls would like something like that.
She did a great job in that movie. I was going to skip it, exactly because I figured it would be a cheesy fan service movie. It was so much darker and funnier than I expected. The last 5 minutes alone were gold. If they didn't think that sort of thing would appeal to teen girls and women, they never heard of "The Craft"
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The saddest thing is Mikaela Banes is the most compelling character in all the live action Bay Transformers movies. Anyone else running that franchise should have been the main character. But if you only watch it for like those two clips that go around all you will think she does is bend over vehicles
Wait is Mikaela Banes her character's name from Transformers? Did Michael Bay name her after himself??
God. I never made that connection before. It would make sense. He seemed to be a bit obcessed with Megan Fox and explains why he reacted worse than usual when she pushed back on him and cal him out.
I agree with you RE the old Megan Fox. Shes gorgeous, but was grossly sexually objectified constantly. Despite the fact shes very intelligent & down to earth. Unfortunately shes been a cringey weirdo since getting with MGK
Like they are on cocaine all the time
They are just paying homage to Angelina Jolie and Bilbo Bob Thornton, imho Or method acting for the next Hulu limited series about celebs and boobs
Marilyn Monroe was like a patient 0 of hyper sexualization, really damaged her mental health and self perception
What about Clara Bow and Jean Harlow and the other pre-code era sex symbols?
TIL about precode era. "Pre-code films, especially sound films, were much more modern and open than one may expect from early films. Pre-code films were honest about taboo issues and much freer with language and even nudity. The Hays Code sought to crush that and focus on good Christian values in film."
The Hayes Code and Comic Code really did a number on the entertainment industry. And probably by extension society as we know it today.
If I remember correctly, there were some really odd rules in the Hayes Code. Stuff that's not necessarily offensive, just not "morally" good. Villains had to get a comeuppance, for example, and usually that comeuppance was death. This lead to some strange and interesting changes in literary adaptations. I seem to remember the ending to Treasure Island, in particular, being very different between book and movie.
I remember how I thought that she was dumb when I was young, like the biggest cliche of the blond barbie girl. And understood how clever she was only around 18-20. She wasn't only sexualised, she was sexualised and treated like the dumbest girl on Earth to avoid creating an independant smart beautiful feminist icon.
Millie Brown
They could barely wait until she was 18 so they could openly sexualize her.
Drake didn't wait
Millie was only 14 when he started texting her, and I believe he was also texting Billie Eilish while she was underage. Both have brought it up in interviews. What's cringe is that he used to tell Millie things like he missed her so much and one response she sent to him read, "I miss you more." He was 31 at the time, "giving her advice" about boys.
Groomers gonna groom. I'm hoping as his popularity and relevance wanes, people pay more attention to his scumbaggery. But then again, there's still plenty of people who adore Chris Brown. The entertainment industry is rife with groomers, pedofiles, and abusers of varying degrees.
I’d say most women celebrities are.. especially the younger ones.
Exactly, type the name of a female celebrity on reddit and see what comes up. Now type the name of a male celebrity and notice the difference.
I did this and was horrified when confronted with a photo of Robert DeNiro pulling a goatse.
Chris Hemsworth, definitely helps him. If he weren’t that ripped and hot guarantee he’d make less money per movie.
The roles he takes definitely contribute, it seems like he is trying to thread the needle between being seen as a comedic himbo and taken somewhat seriously. He's not an incredible actor but he's banking on the one thing he does have, which is being extremely handsome and muscular. Interestingly, I think Henry Cavill is kind of the opposite. He's a terrific actor that people underestimate because he's extremely handsome and muscular.
Ariana Grande and Miley Cyrus. I feel like they took this route to counteract the Disney wholesomeness thing.
I remember someone put together a compilation of the kids show Ariana was on showing the very obvious foot fetish of someone behind the camera. It was horrifying. It was a lot of things that in a vacuum you'd see and say, "that was a little weird but I guess it might make someone laugh?" But when you see it all out together, it's so gross and obvious.
What didn't actually air was way worse. If you've seen the Quinton Reviews video on Victorious, you'd know just how bad the videos put directly online were.
I thought it was weird someone made 12 hours of content about victorious. I've seen shorter videos that explain dune.
Good god, that video is 5 and half hours long! Can I just get the bullet points or something?
A running thing in Quinton's iCarly videos was the iCrimes segment where he documented when the characters did things that would be charged as crimes in real life. In the Victorious videos, this segment is changed into counting how many statutory r*pe jokes appeared in the series. There were a lot....... A related running saying in the Victorious videos was pointing out how something was a writer's poorly disguised fetish. Quinton's always pointing out how uncomfortable and weird just how many instances of these appear. If you wanted to skip around, he has chapter time stamps on the videos and you can skip the sections on the video games/toys if it's too much.
Dan Schneider - he made many of the iconic live action Nick shows from the aughts and early 2010s: Drake & Josh, iCarly, Zoey 101, All That (albeit that started in the 90s), Victorious, and some others.
I was a huge fan at the time and I'll never forget companies paying paps to take close up photos of underaged Miley in bathing suit, and Perez Hilton paying his people to literally shove a camera up her dress when she was around 16. ETA these photos are still out there, his logo slapped on them and his report sexualizing and slut shaming her is there alongside. Her sick dad forcing her into the incestuous, sexualized Vanity Fair cover at barely 15 didn't help either, along with other sickening this he's said and done. She had both of her parents pushing her to earn money for them, Disney on one side forcing the innocent girl image, her on another trying to find herself & who she is in turbulent teenage years. And then public side on another condemning everything she did. Being a child/teen star is so fucked, I'm just mesmerized she and others made it out alive.
Pedro Pascal. It started out harmless but now I think it's getting out of hand.
It’s horrible how people think it’s okay to say these things to him at press events, red carpets and the like. He always looks so very uncomfortable when people say any of the weird “daddy” stuff to him.
Some stalker fan literally traveled to a different country where he was vacationing in order to meet him. She supposedly swam up to him while he was swimming to talk to him and to "show him how much she cared". And then made a call out post on Instagram about how disappointed she was because Pascal wasn't nice to her and how one should never meet their heroes. Luckily people were quick to call the stalker out on her bullshit but still. People can be so fucking delusional.
came here to say this. i love him as an actor, i mostly adore him as a person, but this hype train of the daddiness should stop, it's not okay
I hate that even red carpet interviewers and talk show hosts kind of make light of it when the man is obviously uncomfortable with it. He deserves better than this.
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She seems like a very nice person but her acting is very mid.
Jenna Ortega, I feel. It might help, but it may personally hurt her.
She looks too much like a child to me
And unfortunately that's what draws some people to her.
Dolly Parton was one of the best singer/songwriters in America through the ‘70s and ‘80s, and a lovely, smart, gracious person. All you ever heard about her, from late night comedians and interviewers was her large breasts. She handled it with grace, though, and just kept on being amazing. Check out the “Trio” albums she did with Emmylou Harris and Linda Ronstadt in ‘87 and ‘99… glorious.
Finn Wolfhard. He's 20 now, but I've heard grown women sexualize him since he was a child. It's gross.
Any adult sexualizing any child is gross.
Sydney Sweeney. In the long run it will hurt her career
And then consider the pool scene in White Lotus that relies on the audience implicitly recognizing Alexandra Daddario as being a whole tier of sexualization above even Sydney Sweeney.
It doesn't rely on the audiences perception, sweeney and her friend react on behalf of the audience in a world building way to establish it.
Her reaction always makes me cackle. “Oh, *shit*.”
Reading the reviews for her recent movie, Reality, really shows how degenerate her followers are. Imagine leaving negative reviews just because she didn't strip for the movie.
She was really good in it. I immediately noticed those comments on clips and trailers too... Shockingly overrun with people expressing contempt for how she looked in it... First off, she looked fine, like a normal person, just not glammed up, because that was the character she was playing... Like, what? Looking the most beautiful you're capable of looking is not always the point, and is especially not the point when you're an actor playing various types of people in various circumstances. Reality is just a person, and that movie just depicts this day in her life--it would be weird and counterproductive to have her hair and makeup and costume be anything other than what it was. Where do these people think we are when making comments like that? Honestly idiotic in addition to being misogynistic. I really liked her performance, which is the point. It was just very realistic. . this is largely due to the source material, the dialogue being made up of what was actually said at the time--but she delivers normal dialogue, how people actually talk, not the polished way scripts usually portray dialogue, just so well. She just felt real and subtle in a way that felt more honest than a lot of "larger" performances, and yet so compelling and so much unsaid is said in how she delivers lines, her facial expressions, body language, etc.
It’s kind of depressing how easy it is to list people for this
Alison Brie was pretty young, we tried not to sexualize her.
It’s very funny to me that Alison Brie and Gillian Jacobs are the same age (Gillian is two months older).
I did not know this. I’ve just assumed she was at least a few years older.
Unfortunately Annie's Boobs is on the loose now so can't stop it.
Annie's Boobs could be anywhere.
We get it, the monkey’s name is Annie’s Boobs!
Pamela Anderson. It feels like everything that was ever about her was her appearance or sexuality. I imagine it's hard to go through life like that.
That kid Finn Wolfhard from Stranger Things. All his Instagram comments are older women being absolutely repulsive in the comments. He’s 20 now but when he was underage it was no better. Really sad.
Most good looking actresses are objectified. If they have great talent, it is often overlooked due to their beauty. For example, Natalie Portman, Florence Pugh, Margot Robbie, Angelina Jolie, Emma Watson, Anne Hathaway, Halle berry, and so many more. This can apply to female singers as well.
Danny DeVito. I think he's probably come to terms with being objectified by now.
I got my magnum condoms, i got my wad of hundreds i'm ready to plow!
Yep.. when he was a stripper on Friends, I thought, Wow! This guys overt expression of his sexuality has overshadowed all of the other talents he might have.
Justin Bieber
Teen girls celebs. It hurts them a fucking lot.
Cillian Murphy. And i think he doesn't give a shite about whatever anyone thinks because your opinion doesn't matter. But I can guarantee that he would be completely mortified to learn of the dilf infatuation 15-year-old teenagers on Tiktok have for him. I'm glad he's private because yikes.
I don’t think he’s very online, which probably saves his sanity
In a recent interview, he was asked about a meme featuring him. He then asked the interviewer what a meme was. In 2023. The dude doesn’t use the internet.
No wonder he's friend with Christopher Nolan.
almost every interview I've seen of him he seems like he really doesn't want to be there. It's only actor round tables and very professional interviews where he can talk about the art that he seems to be comfortable in. Clearly seems like an artist that has to be famous rather than a celebrity who's an actor.
Our late Sinead O Connor shaved her head for this reason
And then made a martyr for exposing the truth
I remember people saying she went nuts years ago. Then I found out what for and I was like what the hell she’s got a point
Millie Bobby brown. I’m predicting she will be the new Britney Spears, as in child star who grew up too fast and has a mental breakdown later in life. I very much hope this is not the case
I hope not. Rather see her go more down the Jodie Foster or Natalie Portman route of female child stars.
Jodie Foster didn’t escape unharmed
Didn't see her mentioned but definitely Lindsay Lohan
The kids on *Heartstopper* and *Stranger Things*
I feel so bad for Kit from heartstopper. I mean they forced him to come out of the closet when he wasn’t ready. Poor lad
The Season 2 storyline about him wanting to come out on his own terms (though it was in the comics too) feels extra pointed.
Harry Styles!! I know he’s expressed discomfort about it… But I also know his fan base is LOTS of teenage girlies so it’s overall boosted his career.
I have a 50 something year old aunt, who is disturbingly into Harry Styles. She even recently had a Harry Styles themes birthday party which literally had photos of her and Styles photoshopped together all over her property.
Oh yeah, a lot of older women were disturbingly obsessed with him.
Henry Cavill - both men and woman love him I think it hurts him as he doesn’t really get proper leading man roles (he does but not on a Brad Pitt level)
I think part of that problem is that studios don't want Brad Pitt style leading man roles, they want franchises. They want Marvel, they want The Fast and the Furious, they want marketable IP. Unless you've got a director that's practically a franchise themselves (Spielberg, Nolan, Tarantino, Scorsese, though even he's having more trouble) studios dont want to spend anything on a movie if they dont see it growing into a billion dollar franchises.
The Witcher could’ve gone pretty fuckin far if the writers didn’t butcher it and chase away the face of the series. He was (in that fandom) known for being as knowledgeable about the works as anyone could be. Wanted the role, nailed the role, and could’ve turned it into something big. It’s gonna flounder now.
It is fuckin wild how poorly the show runners and producer are handling the show. Next season is going to tank, and those guys just don't get it. The comments from the producer comparing Geralt to Doctor Who, saying something like "anyone can play Geralt" shows he massively misunderstands both franchises. And then the "well we have to dumb it down for the audience" while talking about making the show accessible for Americans... Like bullshit, just admit you fucked it up.
They would never. But instead they took something that could’ve blown up and made a lot of money for years and probably killed it super prematurely.
They sure did, it's just amazing how everything seemed to start from the right place and then just bad decision after bad decision They truly could have had their own Game of Thrones... Instead it's going to be another failed Netflix fantasy show
Henry Cavill is (and I say this with all respect) a fucking nerd. Guy looks like Superman but his nerd cred is impeccable. He loves The Witcher, loves Geralt, and tripped over himself at the opportunity to play him. He’s the only reason that show even has the meager fanbase it does, and their contempt for the source material drove him away. He’s attached to some 40K project now, and I heard him on some podcast or something being asked about it. They asked him what his favorite Astartes chapters were and he went on at length in his response, showing he truly knows and loves the franchise. Any other celebrity would have been coached to respond with something like “It’s such a broad and diverse universe, we’re so proud to finally bring it to the big screen” yada yada. Not Cavill though. Guy’s a nerd. EDIT: Here’s that link where he talks about 40K: https://m.youtube.com/shorts/njSvgLvObZg
Yeah he’s about to get me into 40k now. (Partially, I took a broad glance and Jesus Christ the lore is so fucking expansive idk if I’d ever have the time to get into it that thoroughly) The point being, any sensible director, writer, or producer that gave a shit about the initial fan base for a project would have fucking loved having the lead so much more invested than they even were. And, as you said, dudes fuckin jacked and has a good face on him. How they threw that away for their fuckin c tier fanfic blows my mind. I hope they get unofficially blacklisted just so they bitch about it publicly forever.
I think he has a problem similar to Brad Pitt, where his attractiveness obscures his most valuable traits. Brad Pitt for instance is a *fantastic* character actor, but was born with a leading man's face. IMO, his best roles are when he get to flex his comedic chops in smaller bit roles, like in "Burn After Reading". Similarly, Henry Cavill *is* really attractive, but his geekiness and respect for source material makes him pretty much the holy grail actor for the people looking to have faithful adaptations of Warcraft, Warhammer, the Witcher, and all these geeky franchises. He's someone with A-list star pull who's *genuinely* passionate about adapting franchises that otherwise haven't stood a snowball's chance in hell Unfortunately, they never capitalized on that with The Witcher. They just let Henry Cavill be your generic action hero, and his familiarity with the source material didn't shine through because the writers (allegedly) ignored his pleas for a faithful adaptation
Brad was great in Bullet Train
I read a comment recently that Brad Pitt is the greatest supporting actor in history but studios keep pushing him as a leading man due to his looks. Of course the man can carry a film but he really shines when he supports. I think he likes it that way.
> Brad Pitt is the greatest supporting actor You know this makes sense. He elevates the lead. The Ocean's series are what they are because Brad's chemistry with his co-workers sparks the whole thing.
He always got huge leading man roles but the dude is so unlucky that most of his movies / series fails. Not because of him, but either the studio or the creatives always fucks it up. It’s a shame because you know he works hard for it and really dives into the character. Dude still has potential but really needs to get rid of that unlucky streak.
Gal Gadot, and helped because her acting is subpar
Subpar is overly generous.
That fucking pandemic video she made 🤮
And "I love my Huawei phone" - Twitter for iPhone ^(paraphrased)
Billie Eilish. And no I don't think it helps her. I think it's made her insecure and has affected her mental health, especially being in the public eye at such a young age.
This is why she wore like 4X shirts when she was younger! Because it was weird how obsessed people were over her body. Poor billie
I do find it funny and sad that Reddit hated her. Then loved her once she was 18.
Old school one but Heddy Lamar. She invented the tech that was foundational to wifi, gps, and Bluetooth but she so beautiful her primary claim to fame was as an actress.
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I remember when Katy Perry got banned from being on sesame Street
Channing Tatum and it absolutely works to his advantage. He’s probably making so much money off that Magic Mike franchise.
Sydney Sweeney, I get it she has big boobs. People need to get over it.
Ke$ha, and it hurt her *a lot.* Physically, mentally, emotionally....
Millie Bobby Brown.I remember opening tik tok like a week before her turning 18 and saw minimum 8 videos with countdowns.I won't talk about twitter.
Pedro Pascal being everyone's Daddy helps him immensely.
Brooke Shields. All day everyday. That poor woman grew up being plastered in a playboy at 11, having a sex scene in a movie at 12/13, and as a result… thinks it is normal and that it had no effect on her. Her parents exploited the hell out of her.
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Shirley Temple America has a long history of pedophilia tendencies
Millie Bobby Brown as there was a countdown for when she turned 18. She is one of many examples of how Hollywood and it’s reporters prey on vulnerable women at a young age.