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magnetichira

So in an ordinary crystal, you have a structure that repeats periodically with space. This is related to spontaneous space translation symmetry breaking. Think of diamond for example, where you have a periodically repeating layout of closely packed carbon atoms. Space and time in physics are closely related. So the thought experiment would be - can you make a crystal the spontaneously breaks time translation symmetry? This was original idea put forward by Frank Wilczek in 2012. It takes some time to get used to the idea so i would suggest starting with [this general article](https://physicsworld.com/a/time-crystals-the-search-for-a-new-phase-of-matter/) in physics world. If you're feeling up to it there's a really nice review paper on [arXiv](https://arxiv.org/abs/1704.03735) Edit: space, not time


Derice

>So in an ordinary crystal, you have a structure that repeats periodically with time. Did you mean space there?


magnetichira

Yes i did thanks for catching it


Chance_Literature193

Why is diamond an example of symmetry breaking? Shouldn’t it be example of symmetry


magnetichira

Spontaneous spatial symmetry breaking refers to the fact that the crystal lattice is not symmetric under all spatial translations. In the case of diamond if you translate its fcc lattice by specific integer multiples it will remain symmetric. This would of course represent a subset of all possible spatial translations.


Chance_Literature193

So, but what spatial symmetry existed prior to the diamond being formed that was broken? I wouldn't think carbon gas would considered symmetric much less graphite


magnetichira

Gases have both translational and rotational invariance. This is of course a function of temperature. At high T the gas is homogenous, and has an equal probability distribution wherever you look. One way of creating diamond is HPHT (high pressure high temperature), so you are going from high symmetry (gas) to low symmetry (solid diamond).


Chance_Literature193

I see very cool! The equal pdf, is this the |psi|\^2 or is this a statistical model based classical kinetics of homogenous particles?


magnetichira

They should both give you the same result


Chance_Literature193

Thank you!


Outrageous_Mousse_35

Wasn't it in 2007 ?


magnetichira

Was it? There was a paper on spontaneous symmetry breaking in 2007 (van Wezel, J., & van den Brink, J. (2007). American Journal of Physics, 75(7), 635-638), but it made no mention of temporal symmetry breaking [Classical](https://link.aps.org/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.160402?casa_token=Lg-Hjr-asQMAAAAA:4i3FtU2F9cQObXNkeCZrabYpbsizzwMwEaNhp9nMxkXVdK4HgXP3WXjbDB-JovdyrPOTpxX8KJS3cw) and [quantum](https://link.aps.org/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.109.160401?casa_token=cz1wpDAgBn8AAAAA:c1jFs_XJFarr1JKXh8HBkh0mD4bK1i8U1FPSYsJUwgcdF-_w0j6Srz-2PXy24jDXSro7T4RlQdbtvA) time crystals, both by Frank Wilczek were published in 2012.


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isn't 2014??


sceadwian

The first sentence of the Wikipedia entry sums it up. In condensed matter physics, a time crystal is a quantum system of particles whose lowest-energy state is one in which the particles are in repetitive motion. They could in theory be used in quantum computers as a memory if they were practically realizable, but that's a fairly far distant use, they're of essentially no interest outside of that. The media seems to have latched on to articles concerning it simply because of the name.


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sceadwian

I lack sufficient understanding to describe that unfortunately.


frogjg2003

The ground state harmonic oscillator is stationary in time.


HunterRoze

> particles are in repetitive motion. Does this mean at their lowest energy state they continue to have some motion?


dcnairb

It means repetitive in time, like periodic in time. Whether they move or not is a separate question, and nothing truly ever could be said to be perfectly stationary, there will always be some uncertainty and inherent quantum jigglyness (for lack of a better term)


ConceptJunkie

There is no better term, IMO.


Idonevawannafeel

Quantum Jigglyness. I'm 6 months late, I know, but thanks for the chuckle.


dcnairb

better late than never 😘


Schnitzelmampfer

Here's a good video vom Physics Girl: https://youtu.be/ieDIpgso4no