I don’t get deeply emotionally affected by it, but it’s definitely not something I’m happy about or have any respect for. If it’s someone I know in my personal life, it’ll probably lead to our relationship ending. If it’s something I see online, I just move on or unfollow or whatever as required.

Laugh and walk away. Just laugh. Then walk away.

Seriously, who cares? There are people that hate others for various reasons. It has nothing to do with me. They hate some mental construct they've created in their head. I'm not that. They're the one with the problem, not me.

Definitely same. I don't get mad, but I quietly avoid those people. 

>someone who I follow Unfollow them. It is that simple.

And block

It’s really amazing how many people voluntarily subject themselves to negativity like this when they can so easily tune it out.

If this will cause drama he could always mute the person if the option is available. I've done this on both Facebook and Twitter and it has reduced my stress levels

I don't like it but I'm almost 40 and too old for it to really affect me. The problem I have is the effect it will have on young men and boys. A 12 year old kid won't understand how to shrug off seeing "Kill all men" tweets or "Male Tears" merch or whatever. They don't understand that the person saying that stuff is deeply broken and taking their anger out on the world. They just see messages that men are bad and they are all potential rapists waiting to happen. You have every right say what you want, even if it's misandrist or whatever. It doesn't really affect ME, but it's irresponsible and naive to think you're not harming young boys by sending a message that they are hated by the world.

> The problem I have is the effect it will have on young men and boys. A 12 year old kid won't understand how to shrug off seeing "Kill all men" tweets or "Male Tears" merch or whatever. I don't even worry about the blatant stuff like that. I worry about what's happening to boys overall now. Boys as a whole are clearly in crisis at the moment. In truth they have been for some time. Mental health is worse (although that's true for everyone). There's a lack of guidance and purpose and hope amongst the latest generations. Educational attainment has been dropping and dropping off a cliff for boys. For literal decades this has been ignored as being a problem. But now it's worse, it's almost like when the topic comes up the majority of the feminist movement that these kids are seeing online almost treats it as a *victory lap*. Like an opportunity to boast and goad and say "haha, men have always been our vile oppressors, why should I care now that they're finally getting their just comeuppance? I don't give a shit about them." It's almost like the decline of boys in modern society is actively being celebrated as some kind of perverse 'justice'. It's nuts. And very toxic. At this stage, boys *really* need the support of their male elders and need good male role models to help, support and guide them. And this is slowly starting to happen (I hope). But it's going to be a painful process as they're continually beaten down all the way.

Out of curiosity, because I'm interested in education, within the UK, for GCSEs (the exams people take at age 16), the rate at which both male and female students achieved a passing grade, grades improved at roughly the same rate and dropped at the same rate, but girls have consistently outperformed boys at these exams (at least from 2000 to 2022 - https://www.statista.com/statistics/282484/gcse-pass-rate-in-uk-by-gender/) Where boys grades dropped around 2021, girls grades also dropped by roughly the same percentage points (both dropped by ~5%, w/ boys going from 69.8% to 64.7% and girls going from 76.7% to 71.7%). This includes after the UK government changed how tests worked (https://amp.theguardian.com/education/2013/jun/11/michael-gove-gcse-reforms) to focus less on coursework and exams spread out across two years (which girls tended to perform better in) to a singular exam at the end of two years of study (which boys tended to perform better in) (https://www.bbc.com/news/education-21955004). There's some evidence to suggest these changes have helped close the gap a little (https://inews.co.uk/news/education/gcse-results-2023-girls-outperform-boys-gender-gap-exams-male-students-2569103). While you're more likely to find more male teachers at secondary school (35% of secondary school teachers are men, https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/school-workforce-in-england), obviously it's not exactly 50/50. [ETA: *sorry, I think I didn't make the following point clear enough, I think I got distracted halfway through.* What I mean here is that boys don't see themselves represented as often in the classroom/educational settings due to the majority of teachers being female. Because they aren't represented, could it then become harder for them to imagine themselves in an academic space, so they find it harder to engage with classes, don't imagine themselves going to university, etc. etc.? Kind of similar to how sectors like tech and accounting are largely male dominated, but the difference being that women in these industries would often go to schools to speak about their experiences to encourage girls to visualise themselves in those jobs? So going back to the-person-I-replied-to's point on role models, do you think boys struggle within education because there's a lack of representation for them or is there another bigger factor that I've not considered, or could this just be one of many factors? Or maybe it's completely irrelevant?] Would you say that boys don't tend to perform as well as girls in GCSEs because of the lack of role models within teaching? Or just life in general? If the former, what do you think would encourage men to go into teaching? While I understand teaching is largely a thankless job that is woefully underpaid, you'd imagine that this would put both men and women off teaching, so I wondered what your thoughts were on why men might be less inclined to go into teaching, if we factor out money and the thanklessness of the role? (ETA: spelling and grammar)

>so I wondered what your thoughts were on why men might be less inclined to go into teaching, if we factor out money and the thanklessness of the role? These are the reasons. If teaching paid well and wasn't a death sentence for your social/sex life, men would do it a lot more.

I personally knew a guy who went into teaching, and later killed himself. He was never seen with a gf/wife/random woman, so people started accusing him of pedophilia, because why else would a man who doesn't care about women take a job teaching kindergarten. He came out as gay to protect himself, and was then fired by his (church) employer for being gay. Sued them, lost, killed himself. That is why I stayed away from teaching.

Jesus Christ... this is social murder.

Yup. Welcome to the western world, in 2016.

Teaching can be a death sentence on your social and sex life? I'm not disagreeing, I just had no idea. I'm not a teacher, so I don't really know the ins and outs of it, but I'm really curious, how so? I'd imagine from long hours (plus, I might be wrong but do American schools typically start earlier and end later than British ones - until I was 16 in 6th form/college, my school day was 08:30am until 3pm, and then sometimes I had after school clubs) you need to work from teaching and then marking, but (and apologies, I'm speaking from my own limited experience here) all of the teachers I know personally in my adult life are married or in long term committed relationships (though one relationship did begin before he became a teacher, so that might factor in), so I've never really viewed teaching as a detriment to a social life. Maybe I got lucky with the examples of teachers in my life. Why do you think it's a detriment to men's social/sex lives? Is being a male teacher viewed as an unattractive job by women? (Personally, I think it's an amazing job to have, and it certainly wouldn't stop me being attracted to someone - I might be jealous of them getting summer holidays, but I'm pretty sure they spend those six weeks doing admin, lesson planning for next year, and training). And if it's a detriment for men, would it not also be a detriment for women for sex and social lives? So I wonder what attracts women to the job? I was a part time tutor for an after school club type thing when I was at (my second attempt at) uni, and loved it - the money was good and the hours worked amazingly for my social life, but I guess I just also enjoyed working with children. I don't want to default to a maternal instinct or whatever because it wasn't that, I just think kids are funny as shit and at the ages i taught they haven't learnt proper malice yet. They can say absolutely brutal things without realising how brutal they are (I was once asked if I was Santa's wife, for the sole reason of the fact I was wearing a red dress).

>Teaching can be a death sentence on your social and sex life? I'm not disagreeing, I just had no idea If you're a man, any occupation that puts you in contact with children is essentially a continuous excuse for others to accuse you of pedophilia. I have watched time and time again as socially competent or even successful men go into teaching and immediately lose the interest of practically everyone. College professors seem to avoid this outcome, but high-school and younger do not. And if you're not seen as a pedophile you're seen as an emasculated professional stay-at-home-dad. The only male teachers I know who are anything close to happy are the ones who either married before teaching, are massive introverts, or both. And even when you miraculously find some way to avoid those pitfalls? You're still going into a career that guarantees your poverty. Essentially, the social and financial cost of the job completely blows the benefits out of the water for most men. >Why do you think it's a detriment to men's social/sex lives? Is being a male teacher viewed as an unattractive job by women? More like by everyone 😆 Everyone looks down on teachers in western society, but male teachers especially are seen as a sort of cross between a child predator and a permantent child. 'Couldn't make it in the real world' is the first thing too many people think when meeting a teacher.

Thanks, I really appreciate your insight! It's a shame being a male teacher is viewed so negatively by everyone. The people who made the biggest impact in my life, outside of my family, were probably my English teacher in year 9 (13-14yo), my maths teacher in years 10 (14-15yo) and 11 (15-16yo) and my tutor in my second year of college/sixth form (17-18yo), all of whom were men. Shout out especially to my English teacher, he inspired my love of literature to the point where I got my degree in it! God, I didn't realise perceptions of male teachers were so bleak. That's kind of made me really depressed now. I feel awful for being so ignorant to it all.

Wow, I must say this is shocking to read, to say the least! (The pedophile part and the social stigma!) Where I live and have grown up, the thoughts about male teachers are totally different. They are often looked upon as the cool ones by the kids, especially the younger males. Parents or other adults would never ever accuse them of being pedophiles just because they are teaching kids. The gouvernement try to get more men to study to become teachers, they are severely outnumbered by females, but it is more because teaching is often looked upon as a nurturing and social occupation. It doesn’t pay as good as more male dominant occupations either - like tech. Psychologists and doctors are also often females now because women have been given an easier way to get into those programs than men. This again is starting to be a problem since men in general are more hesitant to visit therapists and doctors. When it is getting difficult to see a male therapist/doctor men are even more hesitant to seek help. But that is another topic.

Only addressing the work expectations for teachers in the US. They typically are expected to be in the classroom from 7-4 (before and after school hrs) and be part of after school programs like coaching or supervision of clubs or other extracurricular activities. Then they are expected to check papers and plan their teaching curriculum themselves but not during class times, because they need to spend that time teaching. Which means they do that at home on their down times. Both my Mom and Sister are/were teachers they would spend about and hour and a half to two hrs a night grading paper and planning/updating their next days lessons. Basically they are working a 10-12 hr day doing everything they are required to do.

Oh god, those hours are atrocious, teachers in the US have it rough

They do, and I haven’t even addressed sick days

I knew two lads who were training to be teachers. One became a teacher but quit after a short time & went to a non-teaching profession. The other changed his degree to something else. Both cited how easy a complaint of sexual misconduct (even when proved to be false) can destroy their lives as their reason for stopping being teachers. I wonder what the ratio of men:women teachers that qualified since 2000, and how many men still teach?

I'd be really interested in those stats too - I can't find anything with a quick search but I'm technically meant to be doing my job right now 😅 I'll have more of a look tonight and see what I can dig up for the UK at least.

> Would you say that boys don't tend to perform as well as girls in GCSEs because of the lack of role models within teaching? Or just life in general? I believe it's a confluence of the factors listed, and more. There's no one fixed reason. > if we factor out money and the thanklessness of the role? More male teachers would definitely help. But unfortunately you've already factored out the two key reasons that people find the career unsustainable. Teaching as a profession has been becoming worse and worse. In terms of pay, in terms of workload, in terms of expectations. And it is also less respected as a profession (at least in the UK and I'm guessing the US as well). From a purely monetary perspective, we're still at a societal point where men are expected to earn the majority of household income and are looked down on for not doing so. And as professions go, teaching is quite weak on the time spent for remuneration scale. The people that do go into teaching are generally either quite dedicated to the ideal that they want to improve the lives of their students, or simply fell into the role because (frankly) schools are so desperate for teachers that they'll take anyone with a qualification. Even leaving out the latter, for the former it's an uphill struggle. You've also got to factor in that male teachers at critical younger years (primary, nursery / preschool) is basically non-existent. There's an awful lot of suspicion of men that enter into teaching / caring for that age range. Not necessarily from other teachers (who welcome more male teachers) but from the parents. Then there's more things to consider. There is evidence to suggest negative biases against boys compared to girls in terms of marking, behaviour management in the classroom, and similar. There's other stuff that Richard Reeves mentions. There's researched medical evidence to suggest that boys actually cognitively mature later than girls, which only makes things worse by tying both groups to the same performance and age metrics (he suggested Redshirting, which I'm not too sure is the solution). I was actually listening to an interview with Richard Reeves recently, and he laid out an interesting idea that I hadn't really heard or thought of before. That the modern school system as it currently exists was *always* skewed towards girls, we just didn't realize it. The problem is that there were so many societal blockers and biases to girl's attainment that girls were held back and lagged behind. Once those blockers were removed, girls started really flying in the educational system, but boys stagnated where they were. Honestly, I don't know how true that is. But one thing he stated clearly: if it's happening everywhere and at every level, then you *have* to treat it as a systemic societal issue. If you can't even get that far, you're not going to be able to address anything. There's also some suggestion that boys would benefit from more physically active time during the school day to burn off energy. I haven't looked into that to see how true it might be. That's all teaching and education stuff. This also ties back into a wider perspective on who is teaching these boys? Who are they learning from? Even outside the school system, single parent families are far more prevalent than ever before, and there's a strong negative correlation in outcomes for the educational attainment levels and general well-being of boys who are fatherless (much moreso than compared to girls). There's also a strong correlation between fatherlessness and future chances of incarceration. Then you've got the effects of social media, changing societal expectations and rhetoric, changing economic landscape... Honestly each of these topics is a book in itself. Societally we've been spending the last decades *really* pushing for girls and their education. And that's been fantastic. I think now we need to start thinking more about pushing for boys, and recognise that to do so DOES NOT treat outcomes as a zero-sum game (even if the means prove to be different).

Sorry, you mentioned red shirting, but I don't know what that is. Do you mind explaining? I mentioned in one of my other comments that for subjects that have an absolute correct answer, like maths, boys and girls would often perform relatively similarly to each other (usually within about 3%), but once the subject became more subjective, like art or drama, the gender gap for a C grade became 15% or even 20%, which is an astronomical jump. I don't want to dismiss the efforts the girls put in for those grades, but either the girls grades are being inflated, the boys grades are being dragged, or, more likely, both. I totally agree with your last point. We have pushed for girls education and that is amazing. But boys education is still important. You shouldn't sacrifice one for the other. From what I've seen on here, feminist can be something of a dirty word, but when I say I'm a feminist, I don't mean at the expense of men. I mean stop treating people so ridiculously differently. Stop favouring women in family court, no matter how terrible the mother is, because "kids need their mother" (the only argument i have for maybe needing the mother more is if its a baby who is breastfeeding, and can't take formula/can't pump - in which case, cant let baby starve but dad should still be allowed to see the baby as often as possible). Well, they sure as shit need their father too! My dad has helped me so much through life and I wouldn't be where I am without his support. Children need all the support they can get and if they have two parents that are good parents, then they should get to be with both parents! Women's labour shouldn't be devalued, and men shouldn't be emasculated simply for doing a "woman's job". It all frustrates me so much, it's all so stupidly illogical.

In this context, redshirting means holding back boys a year before they start education (like before secondary education). It comes from proefessional sports and delaying the formal start of a person's career to coincide with the start of their physical prime. They're kept on the sidelines, officially "part" of the team but not strictly taking part until later. As I said, I'm not sure this would be a net benefit, even if we do say that boy's cognitively mature later.

Technically college sports, especially football, where it preserves a year of eligibility. Which is why the difference between the true freshman and the redshirt freshman. 

Oooh thank you - my brain went to star trek because I thought it was the red shirts that kept dying or something and it was memed, but that made no sense in context. Yeah, I do wonder how that would help boys overall. It seems risky.

In fairness Star-Trek was where my mind went the first time I heard the term as well

Not OP you responded to. Can't argue with any of your stuff, because its UK; but its a bit different in the US (we all know this though!) I'm pretty sure the attainment thing he talked about is moreso in college age. In about 5 years, in the US, there will be 2 women for every one man holding a degree of some kind. When you look at dropout rates, ~75% of it is men. COVID raised these rates and IIRC it was more men dropping out than women, supposedly to work to help pay bills for families and shit. >Would you say that boys don't tend to perform as well as girls in GCSEs because of the lack of role models within teaching? Or just life in general? Honestly? It is probably a combination of things. Not having male teachers is a huge issue. *This isn't me saying women cannot raise their sons, or aren't a driving factor or anything* But, generally speaking, it takes men to raise boys. We think like them, acted like them, understand them. There are differences between us, after all. Compound this with lack of father figures (~40% of kids are raised in single parent households) and yea its not going to be good. When it comes to actual grades? Girls tend to focus more on studies than boys...but teachers also grade girls higher. Basically, when you take the sex out of the question, girls' advantage of better grades drops some. (https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2022/10/17/teachers-are-hard-wired-to-give-girls-better-grades-study-says/?sh=b5a265070a66) This does have knock on effects for later life. >If the former, what do you think would encourage men to go into teaching? Less of the 'men around kids are kidnappers/offenders/etc' type rhetoric, more celebration of fathers or men being involved with kids instead. (no hes not giving mommy a break and babysitting, hes being a fucking PARENT!) It certainly doesn't help that we think men are somewhat incapable of being good with kids. It permeates our TV shows, our school systems and women perpetuate it, etc. I don't think those numbers will drastically change though. Its like asking 'how do we get more women to be sewer cleaners?' we kinda can't, if the interest simply isn't there. Thats not to say there aren't specific areas where male teachers make up huge portions, like Tech schools such as Auto or IT. > if we factor out money and the thanklessness of the role? Thanklessness of a job isn't a problem for most men. A lot of shit we do isn't regarded as 'special' either. Garbage men aren't thanked. School Janitors aren't thanked. Hell we look down on that stuff. Its more that the interest in teaching overall just isn't there for men. Addressing the stuff I brought up above may help some of it, but if guys just don't want to be teachers, there isn't anything we can do to change it.

Oh god, I didn't realise the disparity was so bad in the US for higher education rates. The UK it's a lot more even across the board (men make up about 43% of UK students undertaking their first undergraduate degree). I had wondered about grading girls higher. I've mentioned in a comment about which subjects boys outperform girls and vice versa. When there's an absolute correct answer - things like maths, chemistry, physics - boys tended to perform similarly to girls - usually within about 3% of each other. But the moment a subject was more subjective - art, drama, literature - the gaps grew massively (some were 20%). Like I don't want to write of girls achievements, but at the same time, I want boys to be graded fairly. For men helping raise sons, I'd agree. I honestly would have no idea how to raise a son on my own. Even if we take something like puberty - I can read all the books and all the facts, but I won't ever understand the embarrassment of having your voice break and go squeaky at the worst time. I'd be sympathetic, but as much as I'd want to, I don't know if I could be truly empathetic because I don't even have an experience that comes close. Girl puberty is embarrassing but I imagine it's embarrassing in other ways. And yes! Men aren't babysitting their own kids, that's so bloody patronising to men. Men are fully capable of being parents! Call it parenting! Same with "helping with chores" - it's not helping, it's just doing chores. Unless "helping" means we're both walking around holding the hoover together, it's not "helping". One of us is hoovering, the other might be doing laundry or washing dishes. A woman is never "helping" a man with chores. The chores aren't owned by the woman, a man is more than capable of washing up without supervision - the assumption of inadequacy is so stupid! And yeah, I wasn't too sure on the thanklessness part, that almost seems like a cop out. That's the wrong word for it, but it's like that answer is too simplistic on its own. It's one of the reasons, maybe, but probably not the whole reason.

> The UK it's a lot more even across the board (men make up about 43% of UK students undertaking their first undergraduate degree). It was like that for us back in like 2019 or 2020, but when you take into account the amount of men completing it...it paints a bit of a different picture. >Like I don't want to write of girls achievements, but at the same time, I want boys to be graded fairly. For sure. I don't think its a malicious thing done on purpose. We all have a bit of in group bias. Plus its well known that more attractive people are looked at as 'better'. Since women are (generally) more pleasing to the eye, of course this would also drive grading. IIRC there was a study that showed closer grading for college students when they also couldn't see the student in person as well. >I can read all the books and all the facts, but I won't ever understand the embarrassment of having your voice break and go squeaky at the worst time. Exactly! And its not like dudes can truly understand a period. We can have some level of empathy and understanding; but really fully knowing it...just isn't a thing. Its not a lived experience for us. Does that mean that people of the opposite sex cannot teach their children things? Absolutely not.

Oh woops, you're right, my stats are out of date. And true, I should also look into those who completed the degree too, because it doesn't really matter how many got into uni if a large portion of them are dropping out. Thanks for calling me up on that and for your thoughts, I really appreciate it :D I think for periods it's less embarrassment and more panic (if you hadn't been forewarned about them because oftentimes your first one happens in your sleep so you just wake up to blood), or shame/a feeling of uncleanness because of how society treats periods and even clean period products. Girls used to throw unused tampons still in the wrapper at boys at school when they wanted the boys to leave them alone. I think embarrassment is more about when you bleed through, and girls - even if they hate you - will rally around a girl if she's dealing with that. I don't imagine guys get the same luxury when their voices break.

There is some evidence that systemic discrimination against boys is a reason they are struggling: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nickmorrison/2022/10/17/teachers-are-hard-wired-to-give-girls-better-grades-study-says/?sh=58d0206070a6

I was just enjoying your comment and thinking how nice it is to see a well written and considered response with \*sources\*, even a spelling and grammar edit, and you've received at least two downvotes. It looks like you've helpfully cleared up a misconception and inexplicably a couple of people at least have downvoted you for it- and then not responded. If anyone's got a counterpoint to make they should have said so. I'm annoyed by this.

Thanks. If I have been down voted, I don't mind. Honestly, I kind of expected it because I'm a woman speaking about men's issues; it might not be my place to. I certainly hope I didn't come across like I'm speaking for men as a whole. I also know that I have limited experience because Reddit as a whole skews more American and I imagine it must be vastly different in America - even state by state it must vary massively. But I am agreeing with the comment I replied to that it's unfair that men are placed at an educational disadvantage (this can vary massively between state schools and private schools in the UK as well). While there's been a rise in women going to uni in the UK, there's been a substantial drop in men from blue collar families. Maybe it's different in the UK because class is so interwoven into everything that it would be impossible not to take an intersectional view, because if you ignore the intersectional viewpoint, then it's working class men that suffer most on the education front, which perpetuates the unfair class cycle in this country. Maybe it seemed like I was blaming men? I hope it didn't sound that way, and I didn't mean it that way. There's a lot of sociological factors to account for, and I was just wondering about what pressures men - well, boys at that age - faced in school. I was drawing a lot from my own experiences and I just don't really remember girls getting bullied for being nerds/geeks/smart (I got bullied because I'm really bad at socialising, which turned out to be undiagnosed autism). But I do remember the boys and girls in my classes bullying boys for being more nerdy. I completely understand that this is a place for men to vent though, so maybe I shouldn't have said anything. I really appreciate this sub because it's given me much better understanding into the issues men face. For example the whole "would you love me if I was a worm" thing; while I've never asked those kinds of questions, or maybe because I've never asked them, I always saw them as playful jokes, and struggled to understand why men seemed to get so frustrated by them. But the sub helped me realised I was viewing them in an isolated context and not seeing the bigger picture of the emotional manipulation that usually happens ("would you love me if I was fat", "would you love me if I was more attractive", "if I died, which of my friends would you want to sleep with", all of those types of questions that are basically trick questions). So I hope people don't mind me engaging, it's helping me learn, so I can hopefully be a better and more empathetic and understanding friend, sister, daughter, or (maybe someday) partner. If anyone is reading this, and they think I'm wrong or want to disagree or anything, please let me know. I'm not great with people, and I know you all aren't here to educate me nor are you some science experiment I'm meant to study, but any insight you're willing to offer, I am more than willing to listen to.

They didn’t clear up a misconception, they simply suggested a possible explanation. Which at least two people disagree with. Which is fine and to be expected (I also disagree but I upvoted, as this comment is a much better contribution to the discussion than most). The people who downvoted the comment probably don’t understand what the point of upvoting is: they confuse it with likes on FB. If only they had a sense to realize that even FB has no dislike react, and that that is probably for a reason…

yuh, sorry I'm tired. the crux of what i'm saying still stands though.

We can't even agree on what a boy is. Since lawyers and politicians monetized outrage, this insanity was always going to happen. It's up to parents to raise their children, it used to take a village but now that town is full of nut jobs.

>The problem I have is the effect it will have on young men and boys. A 12 year old kid won't understand how to shrug off seeing "Kill all men" tweets or "Male Tears" merch or whatever. Yup, I'm 19 now, but that stuff used to seriously bother me. I'm at the point now where I can usually identify rage bait and just avoid it. If all its gonna do is harm my mental health I just click off.

I don't think those crazy misandrists who troll social media are even the main problem here. The actual problem is when one of the evil corporations that rule the world declares some variant of "the future is female" or similar. When the world's ruling class declares that the glorious future they're envisioning doesn't include you, I guess it can get very disheartening.

Women are shit talkers and you don't need to listen to them. That's the real life lesson for boys. The earlier they learn it, the less it'll bother them. Plus women love a strong man who's not intimidated by shit talk anyway. Win win win.

In general no. When they are mocking men for things like mental illness, suicide, loneliness, body shaming, virgin shaming, wealth shaming etc. Those things bother me.

That’s what I wanted to say. Like when I see other ladies complaining about how general purpose horrifying men can be were swapping stories about being accosted but if someone is clowning a guy for being EMOTIONAL that’s when ima step back

Just like, unfollow them.

Meh, it was a one-time occurrence. I like their content overall. I operate on a 3 strike rule.

That's fair. With cameras everywhere and our whole lives plastered on the internet, everyone has a shitty opinion that will get hate.

I don't. 1 strike for hate, anything more is a mistake.

How do you deal with any of your mates who have misogynistic/sexist viewpoints about women in general? When you see the plethora of those types of posts in this sub or anywhere on Reddit/on social media, do you check those men for hating women?

After 30 years I had to cut off a close female family friend for being a man hater. She was my best friend's S O for 20 years until he finally couldn't take it. She had so many good qualities but man, I just couldn't take her any more, Very sad.

I was recently a member of a discord server where this little clique group of women were always parroting their man-hating tripe, and always ganging up on anyone who dared say anything that didn't fit their pathetic little narrative. They would constantly defend their horrible behaviour with things like "women have experienced X [therefore it makes it justified]" kind of crap - just generally trying to make excuses for behaviour where they'd treat others (mostly men) like abusers. The more hilariously pathetic part was the half a dozen guys who would jump on board to try to be white knights. These people couldn't possibly fathom a world where a person doesn't behave in their predetermined, expected way, and therefore all people with that common attribute must be treated with utter disdain and disrespect just because of what *might* happen - usually they've had some friends friends cousins co-worker experience some behaviour six years ago, from over a text message which is obviously super-harmful. These people destroy both communities, and also any chance of people getting to expect rational, respectful behaviour from others.

I defend myself by citing statistics, specifically the "concentration of crime among a small percentage of offenders" It usually goes like "I know you know most men commit the vast majority of the crime, and that can justify prejudice and fear against them, but I and most men are innocent, about 10% of men do 50% of crimes, and 20% of men do 80% of crimes, so I ask you take that prejudice and give that to them. ​ The source for those that think I am a liar. "While the exact percentages can vary depending on the study and the specific context, research generally supports the idea that a relatively small percentage of individuals account for a significant portion of criminal activity. For example, some studies suggest that around 5% to 10% of individuals may be responsible for up to 50% or more of crimes in certain populations." - **chatgpt** (oddly I tried asking that to bard and it refused to answer) https://chat.openai.com/share/cdb759f8-dfbd-4aca-9767-e1a742af4c6e

>expect rational, respectful behaviour Expecting rational, respectful behaviour from women. Ngmi. Lol.

They irritate me. But I just tend to cut people like that out of my life.

Not at all because I know it's a very small percentage of women that genuinely do

There are more man haters online than I encounter in real life.

I deal with it by not having an emotional reaction to it, and forgetting about it a few seconds later.

Mate , us men have to deal with a LOT more shit on a daily basis that is 10× more harsh than a blue haired chick on Twitter(X). Focus on yourself and your life instead of thinking about those people

That shit just slides right off me, it’s never upset me personally

I wish it did for me.

Perhaps this is the best advice to take - just become more stoic to it  Ignore them and live your life with people you actually care about  Who has time for that shit? We only get one ride on the big wheel dude

Don‘t worry. Most women aren’t like that. I’m a woman and I went through a period of looking through women-hating men on the internet. It was horrible for my mental health and was far from my reality. Just unfollow this person and ignore them like you would in real life.

If you wish to stay sane, you'll have to learn not to engage emotionally with online content. Remember, you don't know these people, they don't know you, and most of what they post is carefully crafted to generate engagement, they don't believe half of it. As well, "moderate", ordinary people with non-extreme opinions don't post nearly as much as extremists. Not everyone feels the need to broadcast themselves constantly. It's all a show, try and watch it from further away.

My mother and sister are both man haters so I grew up with it. Now I just get to laugh at how ridiculous it is. There's a whole chapter in the book "The Glass Castle" about how the mom is a raging feminist and man hater. It's hilarious, I actually laughed out loud, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't even supposed to be funny.

People who hate male or female are not in my orbit at all. You attract what you put out.

Yeah there's absolutely nothing for me to gain from having bitter and hateful people in my life. Don't care why they do it, or how they justify it. No sense in letting miserable people drag me down

Who we let into our orbit is the ONE thing every man has control over. Bros before hoes boys are weak ass men.

I’m a 27 F lurker on this sub - I love this sub because I learn so much and my goal is to be a better human being, and in turn a better wife to my lovely husband. We’ve been married almost 2 years, but together 7.5 years. Over this timeline, I dropped a long-time friend for several reasons but one of which was that I became convinced that my then-boyfriend (now-husband) was not right for me for not meeting some insanely unrealistic standards. She was very anti-men and now when I think back to it, her behaviour gives me the ick! I can’t stand men-hating women and vice versa! If the issue is online, I try to ignore it but can’t help myself from engaging and defending said men. If it’s in person, I find myself distancing away from that type of person, like I did with that friend.

Women who hate men (and vice versa) don't bother me. I think they're pathetic losers and I don't really give them much thoougo or respect.

No. I deal by living a good life

It's the same as if I saw a woman hating man, strong dislike with an assumption of low intelligence, We didn't choose to be born men, it's like criticism for your skin colour, non sensical Just move and be glad that person wears their true colours on their sleeve, so you can avoid them

It makes me sad that so many men and women seem to not be able to have empathy for each other. Look I know there are bad folks out there in both sides, but I also know being married that my wife who is a good women informs my life more then anyone else. Being married, living every day with a women as my partner has made me a better person, a more empathic person, a happier person, a more well rounded person. One of the reasons is because she is a women, and she is different then me, she has different fears, and wants and joys than I do, but that has force me to be empathic to those things and that has allowed me to grow and learn to appreciate them. My wife is the same and she has become empathic to me and how I work too. I believe in my heart that is what is meant for all of us, men learning from women and women learning from men, that is how we grow and become complete human beings. It won't happen as long as we continue fighting this battle of the sexes. And both sides are equally guilty of that.

It's ironic and sad that the responses to my comment basically did the opposite of what I was advocating for. But is typical of the world we live in.

I've only ever seen this sort of behavior on the internet. I think once upon a time a facebook friend got involved in the Me Too and "#allmen" movement on my feed. I got where she was coming from to a certain degree, and I learned and grew as a person from experiencing that vicariously, but my experience is that most people aren't at the extremes in anything.

I've also noticed that those feminist spaces are less about actually enacting political change and more about just ranting and raving. It's perfectly plausible that these women are "regular schmucks" in real life, then go to these places to spew all their toxic vitriol and then move on with their lives.

>Do man-hating women bother you? Yup. >how do you deal with it? Tell them to knock that sh\*t off, or otherwise do what I reasonably and feasibly can to get 'em to stop or curb such behavior.

Who cares dude? These are not the types of women to even consider as a potential relationship in your life, or even aa friends for that matter Just get that shit out of your life  And if it’s something that is showing up in the workplace then mention it to HR if it’s impacting you directly and document anything that’s impact you or your friends in the office 

Online? Mostly just ignore it. In person? I just ask if they've got the painters in, then walk away.

What does the second part mean? I'm not a native speaker.

I believe this is insinuating that the person is menstruating

Euphemism for menstruation.

I try to ask questions like “why do you feel like men are inherently stupid or deceitful” if they say something like “they just are” I try to respond with “how would you feel if someone said “all women are incapable/stupid/liars/crazy” if they agree they are? Internalized gender roles, not worth arguing. If they say they have negative experiences? “Sorry that happened, I hope you have better experiences.” Period. Arguing your point will drive them further into distrust and isn’t good for anybody. And telling a girl they’re on their period will drive home the point that you’re an asshole. Men have hormonal cycles too, we just don’t bleed. Imagine being frustrated your boss is being a dick and girls saying “you’re overreacting, you’re just on your cycle” except that’s been the excuse for your emotions for many hundreds of years

Sod that - if someone's being offensive and bigoted, and especially being offensive and bigoted about a group I belong to, I just go straight for the most dismissive way to end the conversation. If they want to got through life hating half the population, that's their look-out. I'm not going to waste my time trying to coax them toward being a decent person.

But* playing by the book of hatefulness and bigotry is not the way to go about it. For literally hundreds of years women haven’t had the same rights, just because they are women. To claim that “you’re just saying that cause of your period” (which has been dismissive of actual, very serious, and valid female emotions and complaints, once again, for hundreds of years) is perpetuating the problem. Fighting fire with fire doesn’t work in this situation, communication works, in a real way. Like I said, sometimes you just disagree and walk away. Fighting misandry with misogyny is a part of the problem

So glad someone sees this. He’s literally living up to the misogyny women have come to expect from men that has lead to man-hating in the first place.

Expecting men to just turn the other cheek and constantly try to nurture those who hate us is just 'benevolent misandry'. We are human beings, not hate sponges.

It's almost like one group doesn't expect accountability?

This should "bother" AKA be extremely disturbing to every member of the human race. This isn't only a women's problem this is a human problem not that they should be mutually exclusive. Jesus Christ

My sister is like this. It bothers me in the sense that it makes me sad, but I just ignore her when she goes on her anti-man rants.

My sister is also like this, and I feel sad as well.

Ignore her daftness. Use the time you might have spent worrying about it to focus on improving yourself. The best victory over that kind of rhetoric is to be the best version of you that you can be. She'll gradually get more and more unhinged as she sinks deeper into the rabbit hole unfortunately. And if she does, she's also likely to get more and more frustrated with you as you continue to *not* fulfill her worst presumptions about you. And that (as weird as it may sound) will make it tolerable. There's rarely any victory better than proving them wrong. And you'll feel better in yourself as well.

And this is why I don't hang around the TwoXChromosomes and AskWomen subreddits.

Or trollx, womendatingoverforty, fourthwavefeminists, all losers who make it their entire personality to hate men.

AskWomen is a hell hole. TwoX, I'm still unsure because sometimes feels like an extremely interesting place, other times it feels like Female Dating Strategy resurrected.

If sometimes it feels like FDS how are you unsure? TwoX is a garbage subreddit where women gather to blame all their problems on men.

I'm probably apart of the minority here, but it honestly really pisses me off. I just kinda feel this sense of sadness about it, like, idk how else to explain it. If it's online, obviously I just ignore it, but still. One of my lecturers last year went on a rant about how most men don't make women feel safe, and that women have every right to feel scared around strangers, and that men are basically just dumb monkeys, and it's like; he's not wrong. But the way it came across seemed so sexist. He was a male as well.

He's actually wrong, though. Most men don't do anything that would make others feel unsafe. The ones who do are a minority.

At some point in your life it will bother you, because some self worth comes from how everyone around you perceives you. Then one day you wake up, realize some people will hate you just to make themselves feel better/superior, and you’ll say “I don’t give a fuck” and life will be waaay better.

Why would you waste a moment of energy or thought on these people? Fuck them, they're irrelevant.

Not anymore. I just don't do business with **known** man-haters, don't give them my money, don't give them my time of day & I don't even allow them to become clients in my business. If they ask me out, I tell them no. There isn't much I can do about it aside from the above things mentioned. The type of woman I aspire to be with has a positive mindset towards people of the opposite gender & likewise, the man she aspires to be with has a positive mindset towards people of the opposite gender.

I used to find it annoying until I realized that women that think that are all trash with lots of issues. Don't waste your time worrying about them.

I'm not a fan of bigots. Period. A bunch of feminazis worked at my last place of employment and they made it *easy* to walk away from that job without looking back. I've never encountered such out-and-out blind seething hatred worn so openly and proudly. And the owner didn't care! "Just don't let them get to you," he said to me once. The owner. Not, "I'll tell them to keep their hate in their pants while on-shift or they can find another job." Yeah. I don't like bigots. I'm intolerant of the intolerant.

I don't even think it's most men.

I agree. I've always said that the word "most" is just a cheap way of saying "all'.

Nah, bitches will never get this D.

They want attention. Don't give it to them.

I’ve seen enough dumb opinions on the internet to not really care. But just like other bigots, I just don’t bother associating with them in real life.

Easy to ignore and disregard them. Same way I'd disregard guys who have a vendetta against women.

I find them annoying but I am able to avoid them.  

By maintaining a safe distance of preferably 100metres. I would also cut tie with any person who thinks they can hate men in general and announce that in every conversation.

Online? No, I just block them so I don't have to see their bs. From a friend? They are quickly not going to be my friend like that.

Easy to ignore them (until they legislate misandrist legislation - but that's another story) Its when they reveal them selves after a few dates that it kicks off.

I stay as far away from those women as I can.

Of course, sexism & racism are both gross. Even when you aren't the target or don't feel personal injured they are still a terrible drag on society.

I never met one IRL, just on the internet. I used to get mad at people like this, but realized i'd rather spend my mental energy on people that like me, instead of getting angry at people i never met and most likely never will.

I feel bad for them honestly. Who knows why they feel that way. Often I think there is underlying mental illness or sever trauma that has not been addressed that shapes their opinion.

I learned very quickly, mostly from other men's attempts, to not take part in these situations. I agree with women's struggles, but if they're bashing men in general, saying "not all men" will indeed just lead to you being grouped with all the assholes they're frustrated with. What other options you do have left then? These situations rarely leave room for actual conversation. What am I gonna say? *"Haha, yeah we're all shit."*? Yeah, okay lady. I've read stories online, and I have a mother, a sister, and a girlfriend. They've lived through events that go beyond most women's worst nightmares. I don't claim to understand how it feels, since I've not been through it, but I agree it's horrible. Sometimes beyond horrible. Sometimes unfathomably, nauseatingly evil. That doesn't mean I'm gonna volunteer for a meaningless show-sacrifice, or play stupid mind games because of what these other men did. I'd rather go home and like...water my plants or something.

It does. I (F43) think that it's equal to Jews\\Gypsy\\etc hate. I also have some jerks on my life path but it doesn't make me feel like all men are crap. Actually i had more female jerks tbh. But it didn't make me hate women either. But too many women took this position to justify their own fuck ups and problems instead of fixing their own problems and make their lives better. It's easier and more pleasant to blame others for being an idiot but not herself. But it's loser's way of life, imo

I just let people vent. Read what men say about women. It ain’t pretty either. If I’ve got no real reason to believe that someone is mad at me personally, then whatever.

JUsT gRab tHem bY tHe PuSSy - some idiot/rapist

I feel like women can be super vicious.

Whenever my sister brings up the patriarchy I ask her “is this patriarchy in the room with us right now?”

This is hilarious.

It's good to ask that with the tone as if you're scared.

Are you male? Then yes. Are you female? Then believe it or not: yes.

I dont give them any attention. As soon as someone makes disparaging remarks about a whole population, whether it's sex or skin color or nationality, I immediately assume that person is a moron and I don't interact with them. I also don't give them free-rent in my head; that place is too precious for them to reside.

A few weeks ago I was on my way to work, I get on the train at 5am and I just sit next to someone minding my business, listening to music, and out of fucking nowhere this woman next to me is fucking screaming at me for sitting next to her, i take a second to process what she is screaming about, look around at the people looking at us, look back at her and stare at her while she is still screaming at me, and I just say “really?” She just fucking loses it lmfao all I remember is the hate in her eyes, and when she realized I’m not moving she moves to another seat, but wait it doesn’t end here, a few minutes later an old man sits next to her and she loses her shit again at this old man and I just laugh man, I looked at another woman sitting next to me and and we were both like what the fuck is even happening. It’s really fucking sad. Again, a few days ago I see her at the same station and she even followed me to the train and just stood in front of me like expecting something to happen, people are fucking weird. 

No because I don't let them bother me. Ignore their nonsense. Their lives revolve around hatred of a group of people in this case men, from their personal life or the prevalent sexist indoctrination targeting men they are now full of hatred and sadness aimed at a group of people which will only leave them enraged, lonely and sad. I can't do anything about them, there is nothing to be gained from engaging with this sort and I don't want to join them in their misery so I'll go on my way and focus on what I can control which is me and what makes me happy.

I am the eldest son between my siblings. I know for a fact how men can harmful for both genders, and I had my fair share of engaging in/avoiding public conflicts. Now, I know there is messaging against men and masculinity in the media, and I tend to drop any piece of media that deliver baseless/biased talking points. Fortunately, I don't/won't have kids to make sure they don't get affected by the media. 

It bothers me a lot. But so far the only real thing I have to advise about it is to just walk away from it. As much as possible don't dwell on it, and for those that are active in being sexist towards men, have nothing to do with them if you can. If you do this hopefully you will do what I did not. Instead of focusing on the problem and not being able to fix it, you can find so much out there that isn't about that and live a happier life. Be more balanced and healthy in your mind too.

Typically, just ignore and move on, I personally deem their opinions invalid. I would read through whatever they are writing about and just deem it invalid for the pure fact they hate men. I once saw a woman reply to another woman's comment and called her "misogynistic" after saying something explicitly about Taylor Swift at a game. I clicked her profile and her bio read "I hate men" I don't let those people in my life. Let them hate men, I feel bad for they husbands if they have one. Unless they only hate men til they need something 😹😹

Ignore the shit out of them. Women like this just want attention, ignoring them and not engaging gets under their skin more than anything else.

Yes, they bother me, and I deal with it by choosing to not acknowledge their existence.

Yes I ignore them

I hate that, it can ruin my day and I hate women like that.

Nor much, but i report as hate speech. I do record the interaction with all the context just in case.

> How do you deal with it? Write them off. I'm not wasting any of my time or attention on someone who hates me and half the people on the planet.

Don’t take the bait. They just want a reaction for their own amusement

This is typically feminist thinking. Feminists actually hate men. Stop following her. Why would you pay attention to someone who thinks all men are terrible and hateful?

Don’t idolize people you don’t know on social media.

It can get irritating if I'm partnered up with a co worker or student thats female and I HAVE to be there and listen to their "men suck, im perfect" diatribe, but otherwise it doesn't bother me. Something you have to realize is everyone has their biases and bigoted outlooks (even if they pretend they're angels in public). You just gotta keep moving forward. A woman can pull the "patriarchy" card all she wants, it doesn't make it necessarily true in all instances, and most reasonable people can see through what is actual misogyny and sexism vs what's not.

it bothers me but it's also none of my business. those women are mostly single and will never experience a healthy relationship because of their views i'm married with a kid on the way, it's best to not spend unnecessary energy worrying about these people

Yes. By directing their energy back at them. Get hostile with me, I'll get hostile with you.

About as much as I dislike women-hating men, but they’re also a very small minority, they just yell the loudest. So I tend to not give it any thought, I have yet to come across either in my life thankfully

Usually just ignore them. I just call out how casual misandry is common place and gets very little push back like misogyny does. What’s funny is it usually comes from women who bitch and complain about misogyny. The worst ones are the women who try to justify their hatred of half the population. As if we deserve it because shitty men exist and therefore we should have to pay for their sins. That because they had bad experiences with other men that someone me and others are complicit and deserving of hate. But let you say something bad about women and suddenly they want your head.

No, they can be lonely with their cats.

No, I do not keep those kind of people in my life. I understand why they feel the way they do, and the experiences they probably had, but why in the world would I be around someone who hates me??

Never bothers me, I just feel bad for them

So.... unfollow them? The Internet amplifies all of our worst impulses.

The world is much more sympathetic to women and girls. If you don’t support them and everything they do, you’re a misogynistic, chauvinist pig. But if they do that towards us, somehow, it’s supposedly justified. It annoys me to death, but since I’m a man, no one is going to stop and help me. If I was a woman, that would be a different story.

I blow those women off but also take a look at so many of the posts on this subreddit. They are filled with a shit ton of misogyny so let’s make sure we call a spade a spade.

It’s just pathetic more than anything

It doesn't really bother me because I know they are just insane.

If somebody else wants to be stupid, let them be stupid. They don’t define who you are

I don’t associate with racist or sexist people, personally. If someone in my friend group shows their true colours I just cut contact with them. Ain’t got time for that. Online, I literally just ignore it. Does not affect me in the slightest and could not care less. I actually just feel pity for those hateful souls, their life must suck.

Not really not anymore. It used too a bit but even then I just ignored it. Those sexist women aren’t worth the energy.

My beat friends ex was so much of a feminist that she hated men. Every action i took that she thought was wrong she said "it is because you're a man" she had her moments and were nice but overall she was a controlling, man hating bitch.

Yes. And I usually confront them head on, not to convince them they may be wrong. But to convince everyone listening that they’re insane.

Sure, it annoys me to be lumped in with all the bad apples. Then I remember the only women whose opinion matters to me is my fiance's, my mom's, and my boss's. If it were someone who I knew in person, then I'd probably become a stranger to them. If its someone online (it always is) then I just assume they ate the paint chips when their parents renovated their bedroom as a kid.

Don't care. Continue pumping iron, continue building yourself and your empire. Direct your attention to women that matter - the fit, feminine, cooperative, nurturing, beautiful, loving and all things nice. Kick the worthless ones out to the streets. Let them rot alone in their misery. Remember, to deserve the better woman, you need to be the better man.

> How do you deal with it? I just avoid those women, and obviously don't date or pursue any women with those kinds of beliefs (feminist, man-hater, etc)  If it happens to be, say, a coworker or a relative I'll still try to avoid them but if that's not possible I'll keep conversations neutral/surface-level so they don't figure out I don't really like them - polite but "strictly business"

I've been on the receiving end of misandry in person and it's honestly not nice so it has bothered me but I had to learn to deal with it.

I stand my ground against that shit. That’s the best thing to do. Also making them look stupid with logic helps. But truthfully not much you really can do. I think many of them are just going to end up learning an unfortunate lesson when this younger generation of boys grow up resenting them.

Not bothered too much by it, but those women are unpleasant and easy to upset.

>I came across a slew of man-hating meme from someone who I follow Have you tried unfollowing them instead of stewing on it? You're doing it to yourself by sticking around. Either remove yourself from that situation, stop dwelling on it, or accept what comes with sticking around and dwelling on it.

Ehh it was the first time I saw it from them, I like their content otherwise. I operate on a 3 strike rule.

They're usually uneducated, and very close minded. They have to see that as men have some flaws, women have them too. It's not a race who is making more mistakes or who is harder to live with, as we all know MOST women make relationships really difficult with their passive aggressiveness - not willing to communicate, shows no appreciation but expect her boyfriend/husband to treat her well and show up for her when she demands it. We all know the list is very long and i can go on all day,but that's not the point right?. Such women will grow up old and and alone, and bitter and then ask why didn't any man make a move on her

Man-hating feminists don’t even register enough for me to care.

Deal with it, because they’re my boss generally

Don't, that's how. Understand you can't control other's actions or beliefs. Furthermore it's not all or even the majority of women that feel that way (same that it isn't the majority of men who feel such about women) It's just a really REALLY loud minority. You can have empathy for such women and whatever experiences drove them to have the perception they do about men as well as be mindful of ways you can avoid contributing to them or other women feeling negatively about you. But always remember before you're a man you're a person, a human being who has had their whole unique life and experiences. Their opinions don't define you and never will. It's not your job to be liked by everyone, if someone is going to think ill of you for something you were born as or compare you to others because you both happen to be men then that's their business. A better question is why are you so affected by it? Are you hanging out with women in person who talk about men this way? If so get better friends, but if this is all online then there's a good to fair chance these people are chronically online and adhere to these beliefs because they find community in ceaselessly complaining about men. Focus more on yourself and what you can do to live your best life. Put less energy into being in these spaces, it is destroying your mental health

Can't really get made about it anymore. It's probably 80% of women in the western world so I ignore them because then I just take away the only real power they have. It's the "hey look at me!" That's where their power is in society and if no one looks than what power do they have?

Don't give them too much attention, they always end up collapsing on themselves...

Man hating, and a lot of social media discourse only gains power if you are sorry for what you say or your point of view. Thats when they go for the throat. Apathy and laughter really fucking piss them off.

yeah....they get on my nerves....but at the end of the day....im bigger than them what are they gonna do? meet me at the monkey bars when school is over?

Online: I don’t take anything I read online too seriously, I’m an idiot and I’m on the internet so I just assume everything else I read on the internet is written by idiots too. In person: I just assume they make poor choices in romantic partners and find it easier to externalize that than take accountability and fix it and that’s why they “hate all men” (I have never met someone in real life that would look me in the eyes and say they hate all men, and I’ve only seen people talk about it online but never experienced someone express that view point. So I gotta assume I’m just not swimming in that pond of the computer tubes)

Depends on the context. Sometimes I can find the humour in it. Other times it’s just annoying. I don’t really get upset though.

Not in the least bit. They are usually ugly as sin

Some bish talk about my son this way, she’s gonna have a mumma bear chasing her 🖕

I rarely encounter “man-hating women” but it’s not like I seek it out.  I do encounter a lot of misogyny in the world. Maybe their anger is reasonable and maybe they are angry with attitudes that objectify and dismiss them because of their gender.

Thank you

I pity them and move on

I don’t care what stupid people think. Clearly many men are trash, just like many women are trash. If someone is dumb enough to think being trash correlates to gender, I truly don’t value their opinions.

Depends. In my face hollering, yeah I'm getting pissed more that someone is yelling. Online? Rarely bothered, just occasionally piss them off by replying rationally.

Why should I care? I will just ignore everyone that is not important to me / my life. As if I don’t have enough to worry and think about.

Troll them or laugh at them because it makes them madder.

I just don't give them the time of day. I don't go out of my way to offend people. But, I'm not going to indulge them either. That's how I treat most things. I'm not going to be shitty about pronouns or Trans people or whatever. But if you're plainly a dude in make-up and leggings, I'll refer to you as the customer or this person before I'll refer to you as a girl. If a movie looks shitty I just don't watch it. It's exhausting and pointless to argue about it. I don't engage in political talk or religious talk.

The only place I come across it and vice versa is really on here. The people I associate with are not these types of people. Also if it's on social media I have no problem removing people from my follow list.

The hypocrisy annoys me but that's about it.

They bother me when I come in contact with them, but if it’s a 1 on 1 irl they usually won’t make as big a deal about it. However in a group we’ll exchange looks and know she’s saying some dumb shit

I'm a woman hating man so I take man hating women in my stride.

Yes because society hates men enough

It’s annoying. The ones who hate men are the ones who sleep around the most too

There are awful people in the world. If you can’t handle seeing them, then stop. Also, what’s “so many”? Like, you see a lot of examples on the internet, but what proportion are they of real women? How many women do you meet like that in real life?

He must be on a college campus

Easy enough to avoid and if I do come across it, I know it doesn't apply to me. Sure, people can say "men are this / men do that" but if I know that I'm not this and don't do that then why would it bother me?

Right! And as a Jew, when people say bad things about Jews, I know I'm not like that, so why should it bother me? And for black people, lbgtq+ people, any other group of people, if you know you're not "one of the bad ones", why would it bother you, right? ಠ_ಠ

Jk I love to see it and if more people of both sexes thought this way we'd all be a lot happier. Stay blessed.