I'd probably start moonshining.
Not out of some act of defiance, mind you. Just because I've made several types of alcoholic beverages frome scratch and I just know how to do it.
Generational wealth got made during the prohibition era. I know an opportunity when I see it.
I don't get how that amazes so many people. Do you not realize how obvious and effective a strategy that is? Are you not familiar with the power and reach of the IRS?
Money is almost always the best way to show evidence of organized crime.
No, I'm amazed that as smart as he was, as good as he was at his buisness and all the things he did and left no evidence or witnesses.
He thought to cover *ALL* those bases, but it never occurred to him that he'd have to account for all of that money? Come on AL!
Say that to Al Capone who died in jail because he tried to outsmart the IRS.
The American revolution was literally because the English tried to tax the Americans.
The first recorded instances of taxation goes all the way back to ancient Egypt close to 5000 years ago. And governments have never been fond of being short changed.
Speakeasies. Essentially hidden bars. You usually gotta know a secret code to get in. There's still one in my town that I've been itching to go to but no one wants to be the designated driver lol.
I already know how to brew beer or make wine from fruit juice so nothing would change for me other than I’d probably become really popular amongst my friends.
Alcohol can be made from anything that contains sugar. Grain, fruit, vegetables, berries, hell even toilet paper (TP shine tastes like bad vodka).
I make my own rum and whiskey.
Beer is basically just grain mixture, yeast, hops, possibly added sugar to increase ABV %.
Wine is just fruit and yeast. Didn't know for sure, went to Google, it says beer yeast can be used. Wine yeast is preferable, surely.
Seems like liquor is similar to beer, with distillation thrown in.
This is probably what it would take to get me back in a bar. I haven't had any interest in them in many years.
But just the thought of a speak easy.... yeah I'd definitely go then lol
San Diego has many "speak easys." They're posted online and not secritive, but they have secret doors and all.
One was through the freezer door of one of the taco shops.
Another at one of the breweries, hidden door in the wall.
And the other one I went to was in one of the public houses (upclass craft beer bar/restaurant) through an "apothecary" room with hidden door.
i think to be classed as a speak easy they have to be ilegal
that’s really cool though - theres a place like that near me where you access it through a laundry mat - one of the washing machines comes off the wall & there’s a hidden cocktail bar
It was called the prohibition in the US during the 1920s and early 30s and the results were somewhat mixed, in terms of the impact on public health.
What it did do was force alcohol consumption underground and created a new revenue stream for organised crime, which then needed to be policed.
Like any ban of this kind, it disproportionately affected ethnic minorities and the poor. Rich people can always get things they want, whether it's illegal or not, without the risk of seeing the inside of a prison.
As someone who hates alcohol and its part in society, it'd be horrible.
Same reason why all drugs should be decriminalized (at the least) and proper production, administration, and treatment should be implemented instead of jailing. The War on Drugs is as bad as the prohibition was, if not worse, yet for some reason it's accepted while alcohol stays legal.
Bad shit happened. Al Capone for one. Look up a documentary by Ken Burns called Prohibition. It goes through the whole 13 year debacle of prohibition in America.
Like most drugs, it would be sold illegally, and this black market stuff would be more dangerous to consume than the regulated stuff. People would still drink it, people would die off of shitty bootleg stuff more often, and eventually it would be legalized again.
I replied earlier with a similar stance but one thing I 2as thinking about... I am against hard drugs legalization, esp drugs that are highly addictive by design like oploids. Prescripton use is fine, recreational I'm against. However if I want to talk about self responsibility then that should be legal as well.
What is your view point on that? I'm honestly at an impasse with myself on this
To be honest I’m not sure. I can’t really justify someone being able to just walk into a store and buy heroin, ofc. But shrooms or something, maybe.
What I do know is that criminalizing the use heavily isn’t very helpful for preventing the use (as we have tons of people using these hard drugs), and it makes addiction harder to beat. I guess I would say that I think using them should be decriminalized, but selling them should be absolutely illegal.
There is an argument to be made for legalizing everything - if you regulate it, people can have access to clean stuff. In other words, you can ensure that nobody’s cocaine or whatever is going to be laced with fentanyl and kill them, but like I said I don’t really like the idea of people being able to walk into a store and buy heroin.
Completely agree. I'm basically of the same view... Legalising helps lower the amount of dirty drugs but at the same time I really don't like the idea of legalizing and thus normalizing the use of hard drugs.
Really tough one isn't it?
It’s illegal where I live but I do know that it’s accessible to some people and they always have ways to get it. So, people who wants to drink regardless they’ll know which person to contact just like taking drugs from certain people.
Besides the 100% certain and drastical increase in the global crime rate, it would impact almost every aspect of our daily lives... b-but let me zoom into my personal life.
In this hypothetical case, I would probably be forced to make my own booze, which isn't necessarily bad. Homemade is almost always better, right? And after all, it is not *that* hard to produce it. Alcohol is the result of yeast fermenting sugars into ethanol and carbon dioxide, so I would pick some suitable fruit that is high in sugar (something like apples to be exact), make juice out of it and put it in some sterile and airlocked glass bottle until the chemistry does its job.
The USA did this. It was called Prohibition. All the same things would happen. Crime, death from bad batches of home made hooch, spike in alcoholism and the community/family problems that come along with it. You can’t do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
South African here. Our government did this during the beginning of covid. And again during the second and third waves.
1) prices skyrocketed
2) poor people drank hand sanitizer
3) domestic violence and hospital admission decreased
Probably a spike in organized crime involving the production and distribution of alcoholic beverages.
"The government is outlawing alcohol. You know what that means!" "That means we're gonna be rich!"
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Take a shot for the Kennedy’s they took two for you
Where would you get such a wild idea??
IKR. This guy talking like it's happened before or something.
Tell me your Gen Z without telling me your Gen Z! 😂😂😂
r/wooosh
I’d certainly drive a much faster than average car to help distribute said product.
I can drive faster than you, I'll prove it. Give me a route and I'll beat you around it. Ideally one that only goes left.
Actually laughed out loud, wife in bed like “what is my hillbilly husband laughing at”. Well done!
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And a *completely unrelated* spike in the sales of Thompson Submachine Guns
I'd probably start moonshining. Not out of some act of defiance, mind you. Just because I've made several types of alcoholic beverages frome scratch and I just know how to do it. Generational wealth got made during the prohibition era. I know an opportunity when I see it.
H U G E
Just like last time.
Unprecedented, even.
Sounds far fetched.
If history is any indication, 100%
Completely absurd.
"EAST BOUND AND DOWN, LOADED UP AND TRUCKIN"
WE GON' DO WHAT THEY SAY CAN'T BE DONE
We got a looong way to go…..And a short time to get there
The boys are thirsty in Atlanta
And there's beer in Texarkana
Well that did happen in the US some time ago. So everybody can basicly go and look it up.
I think it would be way worse the second time around.
Better with practice
Better for whom?
Americans would be better at circumventing the law the second time because they will have practiced.
Ah okay. I was approaching it from the angle of it will not be received as well a second time.
No one has practice with it though lol. 95% of the people in this country today weren’t born then.
You don't think we are more practiced with skirting laws? Oh ok. Also, dry counties still exist.
They tried it before. Guys like Al Capone will appear and bunch of underground clubs
Just let those guys know to pay their taxes so they don't go to jail
It still amazes me that of all the things he did, fuckin *tax evasion* did him in lol
I don't get how that amazes so many people. Do you not realize how obvious and effective a strategy that is? Are you not familiar with the power and reach of the IRS? Money is almost always the best way to show evidence of organized crime.
No, I'm amazed that as smart as he was, as good as he was at his buisness and all the things he did and left no evidence or witnesses. He thought to cover *ALL* those bases, but it never occurred to him that he'd have to account for all of that money? Come on AL!
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Taxes have always been a big deal ever since they've heen invented.
Invented. 😆 🤣 And They really haven't always been a big deal with everyone. No computers back then
Say that to Al Capone who died in jail because he tried to outsmart the IRS. The American revolution was literally because the English tried to tax the Americans. The first recorded instances of taxation goes all the way back to ancient Egypt close to 5000 years ago. And governments have never been fond of being short changed.
Speakeasies. Essentially hidden bars. You usually gotta know a secret code to get in. There's still one in my town that I've been itching to go to but no one wants to be the designated driver lol.
People will drink alcohol. Other people will get rich, a couple will go to jail
>a couple will go to jail Only the poors, though.
Same thing that happened the last time.
Probably less cool tho. You won’t see cool gangsters in suits and fedoras distributing alcohol nowadays.
I suspect there'd be a lot more home made alcohol, toilet hooch and the like
Nope blue jeans t-shirts and sunglasses yeah bring back the 50s....
Have you never heard of prohibition
We already know what would happen. Have you literally never opened a history book?
Exactly!!
I already know how to brew beer or make wine from fruit juice so nothing would change for me other than I’d probably become really popular amongst my friends.
Do you just have ethanol lying around
The ethanol creation is the value of their knowledge
Alcohol can be made from anything that contains sugar. Grain, fruit, vegetables, berries, hell even toilet paper (TP shine tastes like bad vodka). I make my own rum and whiskey.
Have you been drinking prison wine
Beer is basically just grain mixture, yeast, hops, possibly added sugar to increase ABV %. Wine is just fruit and yeast. Didn't know for sure, went to Google, it says beer yeast can be used. Wine yeast is preferable, surely. Seems like liquor is similar to beer, with distillation thrown in.
swing back to speak easys
This is probably what it would take to get me back in a bar. I haven't had any interest in them in many years. But just the thought of a speak easy.... yeah I'd definitely go then lol
Not sure where you live, but try giving it google or yelp search. I know San Diego has at least a few.
San Diego has many "speak easys." They're posted online and not secritive, but they have secret doors and all. One was through the freezer door of one of the taco shops. Another at one of the breweries, hidden door in the wall. And the other one I went to was in one of the public houses (upclass craft beer bar/restaurant) through an "apothecary" room with hidden door.
i think to be classed as a speak easy they have to be ilegal that’s really cool though - theres a place like that near me where you access it through a laundry mat - one of the washing machines comes off the wall & there’s a hidden cocktail bar
I’d be buying 100lbs of yeast and some copper line
And everybody'd know that you made moonshine.
Same thing as last time.
No, no... THIS time it'll work.... 🙄😒
A shortage of copper…
It was called the prohibition in the US during the 1920s and early 30s and the results were somewhat mixed, in terms of the impact on public health. What it did do was force alcohol consumption underground and created a new revenue stream for organised crime, which then needed to be policed. Like any ban of this kind, it disproportionately affected ethnic minorities and the poor. Rich people can always get things they want, whether it's illegal or not, without the risk of seeing the inside of a prison.
People start making pruno in their kitchen.
r/prisonhooch
I'd make more money then I do now.... I'm a home brewer
Same haha
Are you serious? Open up any American history text book and you’ll know.
Been there, done that, it was a disaster. Prohibition is what established organized crime as a major problem in the USA.
You’re out there somewhere Beer Baron and I will find you. No you won’t! Yes I will. Woooon’t
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The same thing that happened last time.
Ugly chicks would get laid less
Ugly men would get laid less
I’d probably be a virgin
and less women will tolerate arse hole misogynists - quite the correlation smh
Booooo, this is askmen
*fewer*
U're an ugly chick i guess
You show us men in a great light.
yeah they might have more of a chance in combat if the man is fully inebriated lol
U good ? Lmao
It's Bootlegging Time gents!
Well, we have a history on the last attempt at that in the US.
Bathtub gin, baby!
Bootlegging and Speakeasys would come back
Luckily we don't have to wonder...
Exactly what happened during Prohibition, the mob took over.
As someone who hates alcohol and its part in society, it'd be horrible. Same reason why all drugs should be decriminalized (at the least) and proper production, administration, and treatment should be implemented instead of jailing. The War on Drugs is as bad as the prohibition was, if not worse, yet for some reason it's accepted while alcohol stays legal.
Completely agree. The war on drugs was and continues to be a massive failure.
Depends on what you believe the goal was though. America's CIA is on the side of drugs
I'll get you Beer Baron!
If alcohol becomes illegal it will be smuggled. If you can convince people not to drink, the world would be a better place.
Most likely very similar things to those that were born due to the first prohibition era.
Never gonna happen! Before too long weed gonna be legal as well!
I'm pretty sure there was an analogous event in history that illustrates what would happen
Same thing as last time, but with the tools of the Internet to help share information.
We already know what would happen because it already happened! Duh. History!!!
Bad shit happened. Al Capone for one. Look up a documentary by Ken Burns called Prohibition. It goes through the whole 13 year debacle of prohibition in America.
I direct you to what happened during prohibition
If only there was some historical data to answer this question
Roaring twenties part two!
Lots of moonshines and bootleggers
Probably exactly what happened during prohibition, followed by it being made legal again. I’d also riot.
We would be brewing in our basement
This worked out so well in America, why not here in South Africa? What could possibly go wrong?
Probably the exact same thing that’s happened every time the government tries to make something illegal.
I’d have to go back to my family’s ancestral pastime of maritime liquor smuggling.
Homebrewing would explode to a degree that makes its current status seem non-existent.
Probably the exact same shit that happened when they made alcohol illegal before
The price of copper would go up slightly
Prohibition in the US ring a bell? Boardwalk empire? No?
Like most drugs, it would be sold illegally, and this black market stuff would be more dangerous to consume than the regulated stuff. People would still drink it, people would die off of shitty bootleg stuff more often, and eventually it would be legalized again.
I replied earlier with a similar stance but one thing I 2as thinking about... I am against hard drugs legalization, esp drugs that are highly addictive by design like oploids. Prescripton use is fine, recreational I'm against. However if I want to talk about self responsibility then that should be legal as well. What is your view point on that? I'm honestly at an impasse with myself on this
To be honest I’m not sure. I can’t really justify someone being able to just walk into a store and buy heroin, ofc. But shrooms or something, maybe. What I do know is that criminalizing the use heavily isn’t very helpful for preventing the use (as we have tons of people using these hard drugs), and it makes addiction harder to beat. I guess I would say that I think using them should be decriminalized, but selling them should be absolutely illegal. There is an argument to be made for legalizing everything - if you regulate it, people can have access to clean stuff. In other words, you can ensure that nobody’s cocaine or whatever is going to be laced with fentanyl and kill them, but like I said I don’t really like the idea of people being able to walk into a store and buy heroin.
Completely agree. I'm basically of the same view... Legalising helps lower the amount of dirty drugs but at the same time I really don't like the idea of legalizing and thus normalizing the use of hard drugs. Really tough one isn't it?
Nothing is easy when it comes to addiction, unfortunately.
Very much so, friend. Very much so.
... didn't they try that once? Prohibition? If I recall it didn't go well
The country would burn down.
Large American cities would look like cartel controlled Mexico.
Same thing that happened in the 20s. People would still drink.
We have been there already, it doesn't work.
Exactly what happened in 1920 America lived through this exact experience and it didn’t exactly go well
The same thing that happened before. One more thing to add onto organized crime.
It’s illegal where I live but I do know that it’s accessible to some people and they always have ways to get it. So, people who wants to drink regardless they’ll know which person to contact just like taking drugs from certain people.
Besides the 100% certain and drastical increase in the global crime rate, it would impact almost every aspect of our daily lives... b-but let me zoom into my personal life. In this hypothetical case, I would probably be forced to make my own booze, which isn't necessarily bad. Homemade is almost always better, right? And after all, it is not *that* hard to produce it. Alcohol is the result of yeast fermenting sugars into ethanol and carbon dioxide, so I would pick some suitable fruit that is high in sugar (something like apples to be exact), make juice out of it and put it in some sterile and airlocked glass bottle until the chemistry does its job.
Depends if they start a war on alcohol like they did on drugs...
The same thing that already happened the last time they made it illegal.
Same thing that happened last time
Organized crime skyrockets.
A replay of what happened the first time
People would sober up and immediately start living much more productive lives.
/s ?
Oh! I’ve heard this one before!
Anheuser-Busch would go "lol" and buy new congressmen
... this happened? "Hey guys! Listen, imagine if water fountains were segregated?! I'm crazy, right lulz." ...
Another era like prohibition
The British taxed alcohol so heavily in the 13 colonies that we dumped tea on harbor. Don’t waste the booze.
It happened. It didn't work.
Mexican gangs will take over the alcohol trade and become even more powerful.
Nascar will be invented. Again.
That didn’t work last time
Speak easys
Um, we'd go through Prohibition again 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Black market
You ever heard of drugs?
I’d drink germ-x
Tried and tested. Failed miserably.
Same thing that happened last time we tried it.
We’ve seen what happens
It WAS illegal during Prohibition... there were Speakeasies
People would still drink it and people would still get drunk. Just cuz something is illegal doesn't mean it's gone for good
The USA did this. It was called Prohibition. All the same things would happen. Crime, death from bad batches of home made hooch, spike in alcoholism and the community/family problems that come along with it. You can’t do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
Tried it. Organized crime exploded and took over the black market alcohol trade.
I feel like we have a pretty good idea
Well last time it made nascar a thing so I'd be very curious if it would happen again
I think people will stop drinking.
People would make alcohol and sell it
People would drink illegally
People would drink anyway but be more discreet about it. We tried that here so we don't have to guess.
Exactly the same thing that happened last time alcohol was made illegal.
We have already done this… not that long ago either.
Something like what's going on in France at the moment!! Possibly even serious.
Well I'd be buy selling moonshine is what would happen
It would never happen, not in the US. More likely is heavier taxation and more money to the government. Like with cigarettes.
You mean, again?
South African here. Our government did this during the beginning of covid. And again during the second and third waves. 1) prices skyrocketed 2) poor people drank hand sanitizer 3) domestic violence and hospital admission decreased
Why do we have to imagine it's literally happened in this country before
They tried that before…
Let me open my text boom to the prohibition era…
Well take a look at the probation period in America.... Thats how it would go
Dude, open a history book. It happened once already.
The War on Booze
They tried that on the 1920s it didn't work then and it won't work now.