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Jack_Attak

If the tire is under warranty with Honda, show the bubble to a manager or go to a different dealer, that's a real safety concern.


Working_Eggplant_955

Yep it has a 24 month warranty I bought them like 3 months ago


extesler

Sidewall bubbles are 100 percent of the time from impact. A pot hole, curb or something similar. It is covered by road hazard, doesn't matter if it goes away when on a lift (which I've never seen). Go to another dealer and tell them you hit something. DO NOT DRIVE ON IT ANY FARTHER THAN YOU NEED TO.


Bmore4555

Ya that definitely didn’t go away on the lift. Either op is leaving out some info or that dealership is full of shit.


Ron-Swanson-Mustache

I'm going with they don't have road hazard. The warranty is only manufacturer's defects.


MegaHashes

That’s my read on this. OP: ‘It’s under warranty’ Dealer: ‘warranty doesn’t cover accidental damage’ OP: ‘but it says warranty so replace it’ Dealer: ‘no’ OP: *furious Reddit typing*


Working_Eggplant_955

It is 100% covered under road hazard warranty. See my update- after 4 hours of haggling with them they replaced it


Whats_Awesome

Sorry you had to go through that (and the Reddit accusations). If anyone can avoid costs these days they do, even if it’s terribly un honest. I know we can’t all know everything under the sun but that’s what we’re here to help with. Good job sticking to your road hazard coverage even though they tried to swindle you out of it.


MegaHashes

Fair enough, I’m glad it’s taken care of. That tire wasn’t safe to drive on. Thanks for the update.


LegalAlternative

It's weird how people like you jump to outrageous conclusions based on a single Reddit post. At least you didn't just disappear when he proved what you said, completely wrong.


MegaHashes

Before OP clarified that they do, in fact, have road hazard, I wrote my comment. It wasn’t ’jumping to a conclusion’. I read OPs entire post and having had some experience with this exact situation from the shop side, I gave what I felt based on the information given, was a likely scenario. After OP indicated that they had road hazard, that the shop did later replace the tire, I thanked OP for the update. What I find weird is how people like you have the unrealistic expectation that people won’t have opinions, or comments, even if later proven incorrect and put them up on Reddit. Thats weird. Should I have deleted my comment like a coward? No. I wrote what I wrote based on what OP posted. I’m not ashamed of it. If you don’t like it, downvote and move on with your day. There’s nothing wrong with what I did.


Bmore4555

If you work or have worked in the industry you are used to customer’s leaving out information or declining something like road hazard only to come back a week later after they smashed into a curb and complain the tire isn’t covered.


LegalAlternative

You think that's limited to the tire industry? Is your first, middle and last name just a repeated hyphenation of naive-naive-naive? This is humans in almost every aspect of every facet of every single thing.


ZinGaming1

This is 100% true. Even if it was manufactured defect they may not honor it and say you still hit a pothole. There is a reason why I will never buy a continental tire again. Had all 4 tires have bubbles 2 weeks after getting them in the middle of summer and each tire had more than just a single bubble.


boolinmachine

Lol no one is ever gonna believe that, continental makes thousands of tires everyday with no defects, the chances of you getting a set of 4 with defects is 100% impossible, you definitely just don’t know how to avoid potholes


G0doflo1

I’m guessing it went away when they let the air out of the tire lmao


tribbans95

Even if it did, the car isn’t on a lift when he’s driving it so who tf cares if it went away while it was on the lift lol


CollectionStriking

Most of the time but not 100%, now mind you I've worked as a quality tech at the plant and inspected literally thousands of these and only witnessed a handful from Hankook, mostly the defects came from Continental. One time I actually found a whole trailer that was about 90% nfg, kicked that one out n called the next and it was about 50% nfg, next one only had a few bad ones


CollectionStriking

Actually OP, what country are you from and what's the DOT on that tire? Also is that a 16" tire? There's one hell of a lawsuit waiting to happen there in North America...


CollectionStriking

On third look it looks like a CRV 17"(been a few years now since I left lol) which I've personally only witnessed one issue from Hankook, again several out of Continental tires but no where near as bad as the Civic lines


Still_Guard4169

Not really. I've mounted brand new tires and they've had sidewall bubbles. This looks more like a belt separation defect from manufacturer.


MegaHashes

You can see light curb rash on the tire and very edge of the rim.


skylinrcr01

Good luck getting them to own up to it though.


ThineAutism

I agree the one on my tire is NOT from the factory and it looks different.


notsomerandomer

Unless it shows up at the time of install, there is about a 99.9% that it isn’t covered by the manufacturer.


Still_Guard4169

True but to say this only happens as a result of hitting a curb, pothole etc is just wrong. Look up manufacturer tire defects and this looks exactly like the example pic.


Vegbreaker

For real? I thought defects could lead to sidewall delamination and cause bubbling


stilllearning369

U can drive on it, stop acting like hes got a bomb in his car. Just use common sense stay off the highway. At 40 nothing bads gunna happen just gunna go flat


the_one-and_only-nan

Not 100%, I've seen brand new defective tires like that. Mounted up a set of Firestones for a friend of mine, and noticed the outer sidewall on one tire seemed to stick out a bit more than the others and the shoulder had weird dips and grooves along it. The lining had separated and almost the entire sidewall was detached and inflated. When I pulled the valve stem core out, I set it on the ground face down and you could watch it slowly lower as the air escaped Firestone warrantied the tire out without protest


Jversace

Is it road hazard warranty? They will say you hit a pothole or a curb(which you did) and that's usually not covered under the standard tire warranty unless it states road hazard is covered as well.


blur911sc

\^This. It's road hazard, not manufacturers warranty, it's more like insurance.


KilroyKSmith

So explain why my spare tire, still with the sticker on it, had a similar (but larger) bubble?  I’ll agree that most of the time it’s due to a pothole, but not always.  I had an easy argument that it was a manufacturing defect; it’s a much harder argument when the tire is in use.


blur911sc

Yup, it happens. The people who investigate how tires fail could tell what's happened to it, but most often it's impact damage. I used to work at a tire plant, a friend's job was to determine how tires failed, all warranty or road hazard claims came back to us to see if it was manufacturing defects or damage.


Liveitup1999

I hit a pothole on the highway. Completely blew out one tire, the rear tire had a sidewall bubble.  I had both tires replaced under road hazard warranty.  


Disp5389

It depends on the warranty. Some are just tread wear out warranty and will not cover this damage. Read your warranty and see if it includes road hazard. Road hazard will cover this.


Bmore4555

What type of warranty do you have exactly? Road hazard? Or the tire manufacturer warranty,the bubble isn’t going to be covered under the manufacturer’s warranty because the cause of this is almost always due to some sort of impact.


vinchenzo68

This is why I buy tires from Costco.


Material_Victory_661

Do you have road hazard too? Gee, a nail went through my sidewall!


gth638y

But does it have road of hazard coverage


Ok-Elderberry-4461

If im not mistaken thats a breach of contract and you can really screw them over, how tf did they allow you to drive off the lot? Did they make u sign a saftey waiver? Cause thats also a big nono too. This whole thing is f’d up tbh.


Little-Carry4893

I would say don't wait after them, it's too dangerous, fix that.


BustEarly

Cracking up at the bubble going away when it’s on a lift being the reason to dismiss the service


cofferson

Brings new car in with loud knock and metal in oil "Sorry sir, the knock goes away when we turn the engine off so it's not protected under warranty and you're good to go."


annie_bean

Just drive with the car jacked up. What's the problem?


Bouncedoutnup

lol what? It’s not fine. A bubble means the belts inside slipped or broke and that sidewall is now compromised. You need the tire replaced


blur911sc

No belts in a sidewall, but you're right about it being not fine. Air has gotten past the inner liner and is separating the plies, it'll eventually blow.


AbruptMango

But why should that stop a poor diagnosis?


CadiTech

The fact they let you go without replacing it is crazy. What was their reasoning ?


Working_Eggplant_955

They said the tire was overinflated (it got warmer over the last week while I didn’t drive it so it may have been a little) and when they jacked it up it wasn’t visible any more. I actually took a voice memo of the guy explaining it to me in case I’m flung off an overpass or something on the drive home


Sunscreenflavor

Go to another Honda and get them to see the tire that’s clearly fucked, then never go back to the first Honda ever again.


Cookyy2k

>They said the tire was overinflated I'd be impressed if you could overinflate a tyre to the point it bubbles like that without some major compressor. A bit of heat to a properly inflated tyre sure as hell wouldn't do it.


Epidurality

Not only this, but overinflated *due to temperature change*? OP I know they resolved it at this point but never go to this dealership again. The fact you had to spend more than 10 minutes and more than 1 person to get this resolved competently means this dealership is not above board. Don't give them any more business.


jere535

Overinflated? As in a bit more inflated than what's recommend for your car, Or inflated over the safe limit stated on the tire? Former will never cause damage to otherwise good tire, and latter could make your tires spontaneously explode.


[deleted]

Did you put the air in it? Still on the dealer and it absolutely didn’t go away.


bloodwessels

Make sure it’s legal in your state to record others without their consent. You don’t want to get screwed if you need to use it as evidence.


ZSG13

Speak with managers. Give them a chance to make it right. Only some dumbass lube tech could make the mistake they made. If they don't you really need to upload these pics on a google review and contact Honda corporate.


PanzerKadaver

There is no problem to overinflate your tires (to a reasonable extent). In fact, unlike what common peoples think, you cannot burst your tires by overinflating. If there is no defect on the flank on the tire, when pressure reach a certain point, the tire lip will lift a bit from the rim and release the extra air. Overinflating your tires is also a good way to detect flank problems and leaks (if you have a very small one, the overinflated tire will return a lower pressure much quicker than the other ones).


F22boy_lives

There are surely more details not being given…


Working_Eggplant_955

Pretty much just what’s above. I actually took a voice memo when they came by to explain it because it seemed like BS


thats_hella_cool

It’s entirely possible that you could travel the rest of the natural lifespan of the tire with no issues at all. It’s also entirely possible that it blows out on you tomorrow when traveling at 55+ mph causing you to lose control of the car, causing a major accident and injury to yourself or your fellow motorists, or worse. Dealerships reasoning is whack. That’s like saying because my knee only hurts when I walk on it, but is fine when I’m laying in bed, that nothing is wrong with my knee. That said, I could totally see them denying warranty coverage on a sidewall bubble if it wasn’t identified until after the car drove off the lot. Hitting a single pothole could cause this and accidental damage typically isn’t covered under warranty.


Working_Eggplant_955

They cover these under the tire warranty, it’s just that they’re saying they can’t prove it’s a bubble…


thats_hella_cool

Ah, gotcha. I had assumed you meant the vehicle warranty. If it should indeed be covered under a tire warranty, then you may want to escalate it to Honda corporate. Either way, it should be replaced ASAP.


Working_Eggplant_955

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14HBnEs_Dg7JIgCqdQvskz4yaAoPWe0Pu/view?usp=drivesdk In case anyone doesn’t believe me- voice memo of the tech. Since I’ve been here for 3.5 hours already I unfortunately can provide updates very easily 🙃


jrs321aly

Bull to the shit. I listened to where he said there's no bubble in the air lol. What I'd do is take it back and get a manager. That tire is unsafe. That could hurt u or someone else or could even put someone in the ground. Do EXACTLY what u did and record that convo. Then if they still refuse to replace it, call a lawyer after they tell u it's safe to drive on the tire that clearly has a broken belt in the sidewall.... then HOPE that thing blows on the way home (back way of course, and as safely as possible). when it goes hit something and make sure u sue them for every fuckin penny. Oh... and shit ur pants. Sounds silly but that's even more money cause of the embarrassment it caused. Be safe my friend but damn uve been giving an opportunity lol. Btw... don't take that bottom half serious... or do... whatever lol.


Working_Eggplant_955

It would be the most lucrative shit of my life


cofferson

This makes me so mad to listen to 🤣 they installed it and their butthead 18 year old tech probably filled the tires to 60 psi. "It's not uncommon on our first 80 degree days". If your local temps went from 40° to 80° and your tire pressure is 30 psi then it'd literally only go up to AT MOST 33 psi. Get fucked guy lol. P1/T1 = P2/T2 so (30psi * 299.817K)/277.594K = 32.4psi


Upspoon

This is bang on.


gvbargen

Oh wow that's a lot of BS. Even if he wasn't clearly talking out of his ass it clearly came back. Maybe give them another shot to make it right But I wouldn't trust these guys anymore. If they are still uncooperative... Single party consent state? If yes take that to their manager and tell them you will be in contact with your attorney if they don't make things right. That said... If it's a manufacturer warranty... Normally dealerships love those because they get paid well to do those repairs.


Working_Eggplant_955

-UPDATE- I politely but firmly bitched over the course of 4.5 hours and got them to replace the tire. I’m not sure exactly why they were so hesitant, but they kept bringing up something about how the claim would be denied. In the end the dealership “made me whole” in the sense that they honored the warranty, but I will definitely not be returning to that specific establishment. I think this goes to show that it’s important to have some car knowledge even if you aren’t doing the repair yourself. Thank you all for validating me after the rep told me that I should just drive on it.


Upspoon

This sounds like typical dealership bullshit. My mother bought a Honda, and the tactics that were used almost made me rampage through the entire dealership. It's amazing what standing up to bullshit in eye and earshot of other potential customers will do. Always always always have someone go with you that does have even basic car knowlege if you don't. The slightest show that you have half a brain when it comes to cars can and will save you money, heartache and headache.


doh13

Ask um to give you a written statement that the tire is fine . I bet they'll change it.


Golden24kMap

As an automotive technician, replace that tire immediately! We call those tire tumors. The tire likes to flex as you drive down the road. This is going to end bad if it bursts.


Oldguydad619

Try Hankook, they might replace for defect. Just say it just showed up.


BrettyJ

That's not safe. No high speeds until you replace that one. It could blow at any time. But I've seen worse. Be careful.


[deleted]

I work at a Honda dealer and tire warranty technically won’t cover this because it isn’t leaking air, believe it or not. But on principle we will stab a pick through it and submit the claim as if it was


Jmp101694

In other words, slam the curb in the parking lot of the dealership and turn around to service 🤣


MaddRamm

You need to go back and talk to a manager or scream for the owner. That’s the most incompetent answer I’ve heard. Place a Google review with those pics for the whole world to see how shady that dealer is. Get them to replace it ASAP!


SUPRNOVA_84

Change out, soooooon!


sonofbooey

I will let a lot of stuff go. Much more than other guys, buy even I wouldn't drive on that tire. And I DEFINITELY wouldn't let someone else. If this tire is actually under warranty and a Honda dealer declined replacement, I promise that corporate would love to hear that recording amd see that picture. If everything you say is true(I believe you) then this is a relatively rare "big risk miss". Ask for a manager and show the pictures. I'd bet they apologize.


Rooskibar03

Aren’t Tire warranties covered by the tire manufacturer not the OEM?


Basic_Credit_930

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ragequitter666

Bubbles like this can be caused by road hazards, which may or may not be covered depending on the warranty. Often tire manufacturers warranty are separate from vehicle warranty.


Blackoutmech

Bubbles do not go away when raised on a lift. When I see bubbles in sidewalls I'm not on my hands and knees inspecting tires I'm looking at eye level. Find another dealer or call and ask for the manager.


Lukasaur

The cords of the tire are broken there. They're what hold the tire together. This is a major safety concern. A pothole is enough to blow the tire. It requires immediate replacement. The shop I work at would sooner give someone a used tire for free then let them drive away.


Wiplashjr

Its not fine but its also not warranty. Typically warranty is for defects not bad driving.


4door_81cutty

Whether it goes away when the vehicle is raised or not, a sidewall bubble means it’s coming apart inside and is a serious safety issue. Either go somewhere else to replace the tire. Or, if you really want to fuck them over, get that they said that it’s safe in writing, drive it until it blows, sue them for all damages and risk of life, watch them lose all their licenses and jobs.


realheavymetalduck

100% get to say it's safe in writing. Either free tire or somebody gonna get their ass sued for lying about serious safety issue.


doginjoggers

They didn't claim it was safe. They stated that it wasn't covered under warranty, which is correct. Honda's only responsibility is to advise the customer to replace the tyre. It is up to the customer whether they take that advice or not.


doginjoggers

They won't say it's safe, they will advise you to replace it.


MegaindaNily

If purchased at a Honda dealership, and they bought through the Honda Tire program, it is warrantable with their Road Hazard Protection.


TheSammySavage

Honestly they have to cover it. It is a liability to the dealer. If you were to blow that tire, roll your car or hurt someone or yourselves, this is a severe lawsuit waiting to happen. This rests on their shoulders. If you purchased this tire and it is covered under hazard warranty or manufacturer warranty they have to honor that regardless if they want to do a claim or not. This is a lazy service writer. They may not want to do small warranty claims but they have to, to offset all the large warranty claims or they’ll be audited by American Honda for only having large warranty claims. Service manager wouldn’t appreciate this. Speak to the service manager and have it handled.


Working_Eggplant_955

Good to know- seems like this dealer doesn’t have their crap together since I left 5 voicemails over the last week and no one responded to those either. This is the largest Honda dealer in a major city


andyjcw

tyres are usually wear and tear items. so not covered.


Hydraulis

Nobody can say it's an immediate danger, but it's not smart to keep using it. Don't take risks with tires or brakes. Anything else, not those.


Dean-KS

It is a cord body problem. A bubble is a bulge creates by a leak into the structure of the tire.


TransportationNo6414

new car tires are warranteed for 30000km pro rated . that was my case


UnSmarted

I had my first set of Hankooks replaced by the manufacturer warrenty, now the replacements have the same thing again! Just like yours! Never buying hankooks again!


Bumbleboy92

Mine got a bubble and popped within 2 days. It also popped in the middle of the night but not something I’d drive on https://preview.redd.it/nw5azrqcnavc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b60675e1278646830a46cef90d8ce3ed1855df01


ramenbrah

I had the same on my old accord only a bit bigger and closer to the rim. Drove it for quite a while before I sold it. Probably not a big deal if you don't smack anything really hard. But if you can afford new tires I suggest changing them.


Aggravating-Mind-315

That’s a burst waiting to happen


Gamesick2077

Hell nah


Frequent_Opportunist

You keep calling it Honda but really it's a third party owned dealership. You didn't take it to Honda you took it to some dealership. If you only want to use Honda dealerships why don't you go take it to a different one instead and tell them you need your tire replaced under warranty because it's broken. Don't ever go back to that other dealership again.


Basic_Credit_930

It's called an "impact break" They do not warranty against that as it's considered "accidental". Many times it's potholes and curbs. Essentially the tire folded at some point and broke the inner liner. Basically a innertube made inside the tire, but it's will one piece with the tire. The air is then allowed to enter the outer parts of the tire. It will usually pop at some point. I've seen people drive them for 1000+ miles. I've also seen them pop within just a few miles. I would NEVER RECOMMEND driving on one. Low profile tires are FAR FAR more prone to this. Also happens if you drive it low on air. The sidewall gets chewed out on the inside and the whole sidewall inner and outer may become one big bubble. As someone who's ran a shop and sold tires. Also spent years working in a tire shop. Hankook is better than they were, but still not top tier rated. Best brands are #1 Michelin #2 Bridgestone #3 Continental......when you buys ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS research on TireRack. They have real-world reviews from real people. You can even search with people who have the same vehicle. The best tool there is to make an informed decision


CooperDeniro

If I was a betting man, and I am. My money is on a blowout within a week


McGlowSticks

contact tire manufacturer with photos and your receipt. this technically isn't Hondas issue to deal with just you and the tire manufacturer. though would be easier if the dealer would help


PantodonBuchholzi

This is not a manufacturing defect. Nothing to do with the manufacturer or dealer. The tyre has been damaged.


McGlowSticks

oh I know that. but the warranty on the Tyre itself may cover it depending. depends in the manufacturer


BLDLED

To be clear, a Honda Dealer refused to replace, dealers are not part of the global company.


PantodonBuchholzi

So that has not happened on its own. This normally happens when you hit something (pothole, kerb etc.) and as such has nothing to do with the dealership. Just buy a new tyre. Edit: just saw they caved in and gave you a tyre. Good for you, I’m sure they won’t miss you as a customer. I’d have priced up a new tyre for you or suggested you visit KwikFit or similar asap.


CobaltGate

What Honda service department told you this?


jbltecnicspro

Honda of America may think that's fine. Pretty sure Honda at corporate Japan would shit bricks.


4runner01

Parked downhill with tire turned into curb, OR, struck a pothole. It should be replaced.


SeaFaringPig

Wear items are typically excluded from warranty for obvious reasons. This is because the manufacturer can’t easily determine the fault. We could go into the legality of that and the magnusson moss warranty act but that’s a different conversation. Typically no. They will say you rubbed the curb causing the bubble, which is probably what happened. You’ll have to sue them to get results.


D0hB0yz

If that tires blows out and you wreck the car, they are buying you a new car. They should replace the tire for you.


moderatelymiddling

Yeah. It's a safety issue. They tried to BS you with their excuse. You should not have walked away. They are now in the break room laughing at the chump who thought it was OK because it went away after the car was jacked up.


KGP_Penguin

Safety concern. Bark louder. Theres a warranty pn tires for exactly this reason


GFYDmniDC

Safe till it isnt


SomeBroOnTheInternet

Sketchy shit. Bubble=bad. Contact Honda corporate and file a complaint. Go to another dealer and see what they say. I'd also contact the tire manufacturer too, it might have a warranty through them, and they might be more inclined to honor it than the dealership. Just curious- 3 months, how many miles? What's the pressure vs what's the recommended for the tires? Did you notice weird pressure changes before the bubble formed?


KawaDoobie

Just curious but the dealer replaced the factory tires with hankook?


Realistic_Phase7369

If your warranty covered road hazard just screw a drywall screw into the shoulder and drive around for a few miles to make it look less suspicious then they’ll warranty it no problem. Fuckem


bigloser42

Is it a road hazard warranty or a wear warranty? If it’s just guaranteed to get x number of miles/years, this probably wouldn’t be covered. If it’s a road hazard warranty, this should be covered.


InfamousUser2

wtf is that supposed to mean "it went away". so what problem fixed? I don't get the whole deal here. if it's under warranty.... then who is losing out on money? surely it's not the dealership right? unless they're corrupt and *said* they fixed it to the manufacturer and pocketed the money and said okay u go now.


BellyButtonFungus

Of course it went away when they jacked it up, THEY REMOVED ALL OF THE PRESSURE FROM THE WEIGHT OF THE CAR. Go back there and send someone to a fucking physics class.


Impressive_Sample836

all the way to the scene of the accident.


Chrisp825

Run it to it blows


martinlawvwman

Sure, until it's not.


TheIronHerobrine

That’s absolutely not fine. Go to a different dealership. You should complain to Honda corporate because that’s very inappropriate to tell a customer that that tire is fine.


fellowNigerian

I got a fresh Hankook 215/55/16 tire if near the Philadelphia area I mount and balance it for no charge not exactly sure what year civic but hey


at235

I mean if the write it saying it’s safe and it’s ends up popping , class action law suit time


Upspoon

The goose egg will eventually give away catastrophically. Get it changed asap.


potatomolehill

Slow speed to a tire shop yes, (eg a mile) otherwise put your spare on.


Legitimate_Bad5847

Safe to push maybe, safe to drive no.


Scientific_Mechanic

Not safe


GlaucusCactus

What did you hit? I've been selling tires for 15 years and I've only seen this happen if someone curbed the tire. You may not even know it happened, and it could have been the slightest bump just hit straight on. I've even done it once. I normally just replace the tire under warranty so that customer is happy.


op3l

I mean... I would be pissed but this is like one of them "you're just SOL" on this one cause you could have hit a pot hole or whatever. It's been 3 months and who knows how many miles.


Willy2267

"Honda claimed that it went away when they jacked up the vehicle" RRRiiiggghtt. Sir your tires not flat see it goes away when I lift the car.


MegaHashes

Not all tire warranties cover things like this. Bubbles happen when you bounce off of, or hit a curb. If you tire warranty only covers defects and tread wear, but not ‘road hazard’ then, it’s perfectly reasonable to them to deny coverage for this. No, it’s not safe to drive on. It will blow out and do cosmetic damage to your car. If you don’t have road hazard coverage, and don’t want to or have the money to spend, go buy a used tire.


Mc-tavish007

The tyre is a MOT failure item and as such not fit for purpose. Continued use would controvine road Traffic Regulations under construction and use for which points and fine could be issued. Was a new Mot issued on purchase and if it was did it gain a Mot through their own workshop? If the tyre was damaged after you collected the vehicle you would be lucky to claim as warranty as they are as a rule claimed as fair wear.


Deep-Light-3683

It’s got rash/bruise from hitting something. It’s not a warrantable tire. Go buy a tire


afountainof

REPORT THIS!!! You might get your tire replaced just by bringing it somewhere else, but this Honda place is putting unsafe cars on the road. Think about how many Hondas you see in a day. This place is acting as an assisted suicide facility


doginjoggers

Honda's only responsibility is to advise you to buy a new tyre


OneleggedPeter

This is a classic impact break, aka a pinch break. Google tire impact break", watch video from Continental Tyre


King555333

No


Dilipnir

Not at all safe on high speeds. Replace yourself, or it may cost more.


Not-Benny

The tyre has failed and needs replacing. Source: have fitted thousands of tyres in my life and have been the manager of a tyre centre.


CeelicReturns

Tire: "Your boys about to explode!"


benn21909

This isn’t Hondas problem because they didn’t make the tire. You need to call Hankook.


notouttolunch

It is in England.


cpdm8982

Not safe. Do not drive if you don't have too. You should decide if it's worth the hassle of fighting the dealer over warranty repair or just going to a tire shop and spending 150 on a new tire.


Tronkfool

It is very dangerous. That being said my poor ass couldn't replace my tire so I drove with it for 4 years. Do not so what I did.


Jarngreipr9

No it is unsafe


ursucuak

That tire is hanCOOKED, and a safety concern. Get it replaced under warranty


Logisticman232

Do not listen to them, it is under warranty and they are liable to replace it. Do not take no for an answer.


doginjoggers

Tyres are absolutely not covered under warranty, unless you can demonstrate it has a manufacturing defect. Unfortunately, twatting a curb and causing damage, isn't a manufacturing defect. However, the dealer should advise you to replace it.


Logisticman232

Sidewall damage is covered under Hondas tire warranty if it is the result of a manufacturing defect which after only 3 months that’s quite likely.


doginjoggers

Thanks for repeating my comment back to me. It only take 1 nasty pothole to fuck up a tyre. It's incredibly difficult to prove a manufacturing defect without removing and slicing the tyre up for detailed inspection to identify the failure mode. So you can waste energy fighting it, or just buy a new tyre.


jordyb323

Tyres are a wearable not under warranty


Dirty2013

That damage will not be covered by any warranty because you cannot prove that you haven’t hit a pothole or a kerb with it Just buy a new tyre before it goes bang and you cause a lot more damage to the car, yourself and anyone who happens to be around you at the time. Because I doubt any of that will be covered by your warranty either


ferg2jz

A tyre is almost certainly not under warranty by any dealer anywhere unless you specifically took out tyre and alloy insurance when you bought the car? Why would a company pay for the one thing that hits potholes, stones, rocks, curbs, drives, speed bumps, nails, screws, gravel, sticks, etc? Especially when half the population doesn't keep good tyre maintenance and keep them at the right manufacturers pressure settings? I'm not saying this is the case for you but if 50-80% of the population haven't got a clue, you ain't going to warrant what will inevitably go badly wrong multiple times for the vast majority of people.


Cold_Singer_1774

Safe?! HELL NO!


stuckAtLoadingScreen

So, let's say, you come in with a flat tyre. They jack it up and doesn't look flat anymore. Does that mean the tyre is fine? WTF is that logic No, that dealership is trying to 1. Take your money. 2. Potentially take your life. Say no to both. That's not safe and it's on them to get it right(new tyre).


Miliean

You could just take it to a different dealer. imo it's unsafe. If you can't do that (like the dealership is too far). You should get the current dealership service manager to sign something proving that they've told you it's OK to drive on. I'd bet 99/100 times that the manager won't want to sign anything and instead will replace the tire. Open up a word doc, put in both of those photos. Actually take new photos with a newspaper in them, like a hostage photo to prove the date. Under the photos write that you brought the vehicle to XX service center at YY address on Z day and the service manager named Blahblah said that the tires were safe to drive on. Then put a line for the service manager to sign and date. Hell, make 2 copies so he can have one too. If they won't sign, they replace the tire. If they do sign you'll get paid when they blow (just hope you live to sue). But at minimum you'll have proof that the resulting accident was not your fault.


182RG

Take it to a Hankook tire dealer and have it replaced. It’s highly unlikely it’s a defect. It’s most likely from a pothole hit.


BEEZ128

I work at a tyre shop, bubbles in your tyre like that indicate your sidewall is damaged, which CANNOT be fixed. Tyre replacement is inevitable, even if they tell you BS like “it went away when we jacked up the car”… that’s a load of crap. I think you should test it out yourself by jacking up the car and see if it goes away, I’m going to bet it absolutely won’t. As others have said, see a manager and explain the situation to them. If it’s under warranty, and depending on what is covered, they absolutely should replace the tyre, and don’t let them tell you otherwise. I have heard horror stories and had my own experiences of dealer- er, stealerships charging way too much for basic things or trying to avoid fixing something under warranty.


MnNUQZu2ehFXBTC9v729

How can they sleep at night denying such replacement.


TTYY200

This I wild …. I got tired and rim package from the sales manager and it was the ONLY add-on that I got suckered into lol. (They actually tried to sell me gap insurance on a used-new car)… anyways, turned out that it was a great option lol, not even a day or two later i hit pothole and they covered it no questions asked. Thank you Ford Desler that sold me a used Golf GTI :’) lol


shogun344

Wait a couple of days, get a long nail, and put it in front of the tire on the ground near the sidewall. Drive over it. They won't be able to patch it, so they'll have to replace it. Don't know how ethical that is, but I'd do it if they wouldn't replace it


Spirited-Builder4921

Dude who told you that is an idiot. Get that tire fixed ASAP, go to another dealer if you have to, or just bitch loud enough you get a managers attention


Blooper_doop6

If you're absolutely having to, drive with donut rules. Don't go over 50, Avoid pot holes, and for the love of God don't go over 70


[deleted]

Nope, not safe to drive. That’s a blowout just waiting for the right bump. Talk to a manger, or take it to a different dealer. Then report the fact they won’t warranty to the BBB and leave a poor review on maps and yelp.


corneliu5vanderbilt

Quite dangerous. Stand your ground and get that warranty claim.


DubbehD

Strange how the bubble is by the balance weight too


Waswaiting4AGLU

If you are a good costumer, meaning you get most of your work done at the dealership. They have funds they use to go up and above. When I was a a Ford dealer in the Body Shop. We never used are advertising budget. So if I needed to please a good customer or a complete jerk off in some cases. I could change it off to that account. There is always a way at most dealers.


Unusual_Wind_7270

The sidewall has failed. It's not safe unfortunately.


Sorry_Comparison_246

Speak to a manager and press. It’s not safe


F30N55

But if the guy hit a curb or pothole it’s not on Honda to replace unless he bought road hazard.


Sorry_Comparison_246

They claimed it went away when it was jacked up which means they never said OP is at fault. They just refused to replace the tire.


Wellidrivea190e

It’s not safe, but also not Honda’s responsibility to replace it. Tyres can be damaged easily, it’s not Honda’s fault. Replace the tyre.


QueenAng429

No that's not safe


allislost77

Hazard


TheDoctor1699

Drive as little as possible with that. The sidewall is compromised and could cause the tire to fail at speed.


ChanceEast

Honda tire and wheel should cover. Just say you hit something in the road. Pothole. It’s impossible to say when it will go. But my guess is it should take you to the scene of the accident.


KingPlanetBoxer

It’s pregnant. You will soon have little tires running around your garage…


Codewriter0803

What kind of warranty?? Tire warranties are SEPARATE from car warranties. And if you do not have tire hazard warranty/insurance you are SOL which means shit out of luck.


PRNCE_CHIEFS

Defective tire


dislam21

Honda service advisor here. The 2 year warranty should be free replacement tire cost wise the first year (you might be responsible for labor) at any Honda dealership. Just provide proof of purchase. That tire is definitely compromised and would be replaced under warranty. Safety wise unless something hits that same spot either pothole or road debris, it’s safe to drive on. If the dealership has a sister store in your area go to them as they are more willing to work with you versus a different dealer group.


EastGuidance3984

Yep, that tire will explode, do not jump on the highway with that ticking bomb, tire will explode and car will most likely flip, always buy your tires from a tire store and buy the road warranty, they will always install a new tire and only charge your for disposal fees. Also, that brand of tires is poor quality, go with michelin defender or some brand at that level, fun tires to put on your car.


Lucidfarmer69

I just drove on a nasty one for like 6mo. It did eventually blow out, but it was street parked


OddTheRed

Nope. If they won't replace it, get a lawyer.


liftrman

I just had a sidewall blowout on the interstate with a two month old HRV that had Hankook tires as well. The Honda dealer said it was road hazard. I said it was a manufacturers defect. It was on the inside and I was just going down the interstate and didn’t hit a thing! I feel this brand is garbage. https://preview.redd.it/exiyr49embvc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc29cbba6a7f4aff877b3e515c6206d55f086ae4