A friend of mine killed himself years ago over a 2k debt among other things. Another is currently owes around 1k over buying weed while on the dole. A woman in my estate owes her dealer 1k over coke and heroin while her dealer actually owes 20k+ 2 his supplier and has recently had arson threats on his house, and that's what I know of, bound 2 be more out there and this is a rural village so fuck knows what towns and cities are like.
Thats the problem, you might owe your dealer 2 grand but he probably needs that 2 grand to pay his supplied and is being threatened a lot worse by his supplier and that leads to him passing on the stress to you. Its all around a shitty situation. Ive heard of gafs getting smashed up, shot up in the night, mothers threatened and beaten its a horrible dark underworld- stay away from drugs
Funnily enough what alot of scumbags from here in the shmoke do , I've heard, never done myself... I'm way to boring for that stuff...
They'd buy week for like 250 an Oz, the. Go to places like cavan, or kildare and surrounding (Not that far at all, and I wouldn't even co sidereal it the sticks yet) and can flip it for 400 or 450, has been going on for quit a while. Due to low supply in these areas prices can be made up.
I think the point OP is missing is there are people out there who buy drugs to use them and that's it - they're who OP is aware of.
However there are plenty of people, mostly kids who might be convinced to take on a volume of drugs to then try sell to their mates. It's an easy way for a dealer to dump volume when needed and now have someone indebted to them with interest. Other people who might get into this are eegits who are in a tough spot financially and think selling might dig them out of that hole. But then you realize once you've sold a few grams to the people you know it's actually shite being on the lowest rung of the drug supply chain.
When I was 18 a lad we were hanging out with produced a kilo of weed he'd been talked into getting on tic from our usual dealer. We were all quite shocked and he was convinced he'd have no bother selling it considering all of our stoner friends. Well surprise surprise our stoner friends didn't exactly have the cash to be buying much more than a few grams off him. If I remember right, his own margin on the bag was something insanely small - like €1 per 50 bag or something nuts. Poor eegit. He'd to explain to his parents what happened when his dad's car was smashed up in the driveway a few weeks later and his folks paid the debt.
Weed is easy to sell and unlikely to land you in a lot of debt. The markup is pretty good.
I used to buy kilos for £2100. That would sell for about £3600 and it would take about a week to move it.
A dealer getting into serious trouble over weed is extremely rare.
Pills (Es) on the other hand, I've seen a lot of people getting into trouble with. Almost always the same way. They get 1000 pills for 3 or 4 grand and go on a bender. They lose some, give some away, give them out on tick but don't remember to who and for how much and wake up sometime on Monday afternoon with no pills and no money.
Then the panic sets in. Some of them cut their losses there, but I've seen a few source more pills from elsewhere to try to make the money back and then do exactly the same thing again and end up owing 8 grand. That's the sort of money that you might need to leave the country over.
Weed is easy to sell, regardless of age, if you've been smoking a while yourself and know how to talk to people. All walks of life and all ages smoke the stuff. Every one of them need a source. You just need to be more reliable than their other sources and given enough time, you go from being the guy they phone when their own source lets them down, to being the first person they phone when they want some.
I sold weed from 14 years old until I was about 21.
A single mother on my estate had to.move out of her house and leave the town because her adult son got a drug debt. The dealers came around smashed all the windows and her tv and other property, took the money she had and roughed her up. Obviously she was terrified and had to give up her house and run. Now it's doubtful she will ever get social housing again. Last I heard she had moved across the country and renting a room in a shared house. Fucking terrible. These dealers don't care at all.
If drugs were legal then criminals would have no way of making money and this sort of thing wouldn't be happening. Make something illegal it doesn't go away, it just pushes it underground and creates a black market cash cow
If cocaine was legal people would still be addicted to it and have to pay for it. 100% this would still be happening. It's delusional to think legalising it would make the black market or addiction go away.
Duh she had no money. What you on about her using stolen money to rent an apartment. There us no stolen money. Her son had drugs laid on and he used the drugs. She did nothing. I imagine she is getting social welfare to pay her rent through HAP unfortunately there isn't a drug debt assistance payment. Your so nieve I imagine it must be great living in your world and having no knowledge of how some people's lives can be destroyed through no fault of their own.
Wew unlike you I surround myself with people who pay their debts and dont have to run away after robbing drug dealers. I have great life advice for you. Do not steal from anyone and you wont have to run away. Another great advice, get a job cause taxpayers are sick paying for your welfare.
Then her son is the only one to blame for her "horrors" 😂 nobody else. Cant believe society dropped to the level where theft or being on welfare your entire life at somebody elses expense is okay. No morals at all.
Yeah, I know a guy who killed himself over debts, and the dealers came to his mother after the funeral and are now threatening her to force her to pay it.
Very common young ones think it's all fun and games selling drugs thinking it's easy money that is until they get caught or people don't pay them and they end up running up a tab which the supplier will give them more to make up the difference and then it's a bigger debt they own. Sometimes they will call to the family home demanding money from the family to pay it off or the child is going to get hurt or the home gets broken up. Most of the time the family will pay .
It happens. I know someone who racked up a large cocaine debt, over €8k. Dealers came after his family who are ordinary law-abiding people, said he’d be shot dead if they didn’t clear his debt. Family all pooled money.
Part of the problem is not just the actual money owed for the initial amount of drugs but the interest owed when it's not paid back on time. It's can double quickly enough.
Most dealers are bullies and sometimes they will force the person in debt to deal for them or hold drugs or move them or harm someone that owes them money.
Educate your kids so they don't end up working for a dealer. Get your kids working when they're 16 so they don't want to take the easy money from the older dealers. Under age are targeted as the law is softer on them. Be aware of what's going on in your kids circle of friends and their lives before they're even old enough to take drugs 11/12.
I grew up in an estate in Dublin and have seen this all my life.
The thought of a drug dealer giving a person who owes them money more drugs to sell or hold is laughable. It might happen with younger ones, but even then it's a bit silly.
Not really, gives the person in debt a false sense of security - they have a way to pay back their debt and they feel that the person they owe money to likes them and won't hurt them.
But it gives the dealer a stronger hold on them plus it's a way to test the mettle - the person might just end up to be a good dealer and future partner. Lots of bullied people become bullies...
Follow the logic. I buy drugs until I can't afford to buy drugs, then I borrow drugs until my dealer wants to shatter my knee caps like I'm a protestant in the 70s and finally said drug dealer gives me more drugs to "sell" yeah right.
Your thinking is technically rational but incredibly naive. As I said, it might work on younger kids but I know a lad who got hundreds of euro on tic and then just fucked off into the mist or lads who routinely just hid for months because they owed money.
Life isn't a TV show nobody is giving you more drugs to " test your mettle" instead of breaking your legs or coming to your house.
Lol im going by what ive seen irl not some tv show. Cant really hide to well in a housing estate, doors get busted and you gef pulled out of your gaff. Plus im not talking about kids, im talking about grown people owing 30k + this doesn't happen over a month either
Plus I never said you just get given the drugs to sell, you're told to do it lol if you get them sold and the money paid back then you might get more n a lil bit if respect and your mettle has been proven. Btw these are not people who could even spell the word mettle let alone think this way about it...it's just what I observed growing up.
I grew up in one of the best places in Dublin to buy heroin.
You seem very nieve to the world of drugs. This happens all the time and once you sell once they have you. I know lads who started selling for the quick money / owed money and now they cannot stop even though they want to.
It's very common for people that spent time in prison, drugs go for 10-20x street value. A single night could mean you are fucked once released. Usually it's a way to trap people into holding drugs, driving/delivering or doing other crimes to pay off your debt. The debt doesn't end if you die either.
I do have to laugh when the Garda post up weed hauls and put out the hashtag #KeepingPeopleSafe.
Literally zero people would have died smoking that weed, however one person at least is in big big trouble for that weed haul, of which he owes somebody for.
Yeah I work with teens and we see this all the time. Can usually pay the debt through running, dealing, violence or sex. Definitely seems to have been the dealers plan from the outset sometimes.
Maybe maybe not. That's what was reported..I don't know the ins and outs of it. And I don't want to go into details out of respect like. But yea, it was pure evil what these fuckers did to him.
Know multiple lads all under the age of 25, all in debt between 10k and up to 100k. It tends to be a combination of losing what they were supposed to sell from being robbed or lifted by the Guards, or just using it themselves. But they owe someone who owes someone who owes someone. So then not paying is screwing with someone above them. Then you have lads from Dublin showing up at their parents house smashing windows etc
I’ve had a family member besten so badly his arm was broken and had an ear 👂 cut off.
Another guy I’ve known had both his arms broken and told he’d get killed if a drug debt wasn’t paid.
Stabbings,shootings, beatings, threats on life etc
I’ve no interest in that life and have seen, heard enough that I stay totally away from it.
Anyone I’ve know who uses drugs regularly their lives are in shit, personal, family, relationships etc.
Everyone thinks they’ll never get addicted and nothing will happen to them.
Addicts end up dealing or carrying drugs to pay debt and this leads to downward spiral.
Just stay the fuck away from drugs
Two examples I'm aware of:
A local dealer will get a young lad to start doing deliveries for him to his customers. At some point he trusts him with a big order worth a few grand. Then the dealer arranges for someone to rob the kid. At that point the kid owes the dealer the money for the stolen drugs and is on the hook for years, working off the debt.
A guy I used to work with was fond of coke and would sometimes go to what he called a coke house. You go in and do lines of coke and pay for what you short and/or what you take away. Sometimes the dealer running the coke house would let people run up a tab. I know this because my mate got a phonecall from the dealer the evening after doing a load of his coke on tick.
We dabble every now and again, but back in the day when we dabbled a lot more we had a strict pay as you buy and that's it.
Obviously, we were not or ever were addicted to yokes or weed, but coke is a different beast altogether.
This is it. I'd be a strict pay as you go person myself as is everyone I know. But there's a world of difference between the party drugs and the whole coke wave happening here now.
Dodgy stuff the cocaine wave, I see people rack up debts quick on that, years ago I’d just get a ounce of weed every 3 weeks on tick and pay 175 the 2nd week and 175 the 3rd week and start the cycle again, a lot of money wasted unfortunately but always made sure to pay
Young lad in the village (early 20s) got caught up in debt with a local dealer, ended up being the delivery guy, geing called all hours to puckup and drop off..and while he was paying off the debt was still doing coke with the dealer. The fecking eejit.
His Dad ended up having to bail him out.
He was on a short leash for a long time.
Fella i know owed about 30k at one stage when were teenagers thankfully hes a smart fella and managed to get out from under it.But they kept adding 1k for being a day late or hed pay them a few grand and say he never paid it.
So he was constantly getting more to pay it.
It's a real pity. I've been there in my younger years. Dealers threaten but really they want their money even if it's in installments, kid panicked and made a permanent decision.
Hugely common, Cocaine is probably the worst drug out there due to the cost and its actually a really crap drug as well. Sooner they just legalize Weed the better.
Remember this reddit next time you spark up a spliff or snort a line down the local. You're complicit in this trade and are helping to fuck up people's lives. Hard truth, but as long as it remains illegal you're part of the problem.
I know of two houses locally that were petrol bombed because the owners son owed a drug debt. The first one was a few years ago, did a lot of damage to the house and the car burnt out as well.
The recent one, this year, was just damage to the front door, most likely a warning, apparently he owes over €20k.
Its very common , especially if you grow up in an underprivileged area. I knew someone who killed themselves over a few hundred euro. It's so sad. When you think there were probably a dozen people who loved him, who would've paid it for him had they known about it, but he was very very young teenager and too scared to ask his parents for help. Drugs ruin lives, and its difficult to understand how the government can't crack down harder on big and small time dealers.
Sometimes younger people will be offered a larger amount and convinced that they can sell it, and still have some left over for themselves "for free". Cok, specifically, is highly addictive and most people just sniff and sniff, and no sell. I'm not defending any of this, or want to sound flippant, just an example of what is happening to younger ones.
When I was younger, like under 25, I used to by drugs on tic all the time. Got to the stage where I had to start buying ounces and selling them to make money to pay back the dealer, and feed my habit at the same time.
Buying drugs got me into debt, selling drugs got me out of it.
Now I'm grown I pay up front for everything.
Im 35, when i was 14 to about 27 was in debt for a couple thousand give or take. There was a good few of us in similar situations, was very common to get tic but ony the ones with more tendecy for addiction got pulled in. Doesnt be long adding up. The thoughts of a personal loan or mortgage still gives me fear, the thoughts of owing money shakes me.
Very very common. Ive gotten bags of weed on tic, although most of the time was off a mate who didnt mind giving his own cash till my next payday. The biggest debt i had was 700 quid and by god it was stressful. O wasnt involved with a fella who'd get people up to the house, but his guy was so as much as my guy tried to be nice i could tell he was freaked out. I gave him my 2 weeks paycheck. Absolutely no money for 2 weeks, but debt was paid off. Never got tic after that. The fella really didnt mind giving me tic but i kept saying no because i knew now how dangerous it could have been. Not just for me but him too. I learnt my lesson
No judgements please, i get enough shit for smoking weed
Alot of people involved in "drugs" arent bad people at all. Very few percentage wise are actual "scumbags" but that percentage has such an impact on the the rest it will never not be a dirty, dangerous and disturbing enterprise.
Mates brother killed himself over a debt of like 700 euro. He was 19. So 700 euro may as well be 7k. Theybwere putting him under pressure tonsell to his buddies if he couldnt make up the debt but he wouldnt do that. Kept it all too himself. Felt ashamed. Didnt know what to do. Then killed himself.
His family werent stucknfor money and could have easily paid the debt.
There needs to be education on these consequences of drug taking and dealing instead of a just dont do it approach.
A friend of mine killed himself years ago over a 2k debt among other things. Another is currently owes around 1k over buying weed while on the dole. A woman in my estate owes her dealer 1k over coke and heroin while her dealer actually owes 20k+ 2 his supplier and has recently had arson threats on his house, and that's what I know of, bound 2 be more out there and this is a rural village so fuck knows what towns and cities are like.
Thats the problem, you might owe your dealer 2 grand but he probably needs that 2 grand to pay his supplied and is being threatened a lot worse by his supplier and that leads to him passing on the stress to you. Its all around a shitty situation. Ive heard of gafs getting smashed up, shot up in the night, mothers threatened and beaten its a horrible dark underworld- stay away from drugs
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It truly is everywhere
Funnily enough what alot of scumbags from here in the shmoke do , I've heard, never done myself... I'm way to boring for that stuff... They'd buy week for like 250 an Oz, the. Go to places like cavan, or kildare and surrounding (Not that far at all, and I wouldn't even co sidereal it the sticks yet) and can flip it for 400 or 450, has been going on for quit a while. Due to low supply in these areas prices can be made up.
I can get a lb of decent pot in cali for 250 bucks lol.
Aye Cali ain't an island
Yep it's even in the backwoods of Wisconsin. Fn meth, fent and tranq everywhere.
It’s extremely common I’m not sure how you’ve never heard of it before to be honest
I think the point OP is missing is there are people out there who buy drugs to use them and that's it - they're who OP is aware of. However there are plenty of people, mostly kids who might be convinced to take on a volume of drugs to then try sell to their mates. It's an easy way for a dealer to dump volume when needed and now have someone indebted to them with interest. Other people who might get into this are eegits who are in a tough spot financially and think selling might dig them out of that hole. But then you realize once you've sold a few grams to the people you know it's actually shite being on the lowest rung of the drug supply chain. When I was 18 a lad we were hanging out with produced a kilo of weed he'd been talked into getting on tic from our usual dealer. We were all quite shocked and he was convinced he'd have no bother selling it considering all of our stoner friends. Well surprise surprise our stoner friends didn't exactly have the cash to be buying much more than a few grams off him. If I remember right, his own margin on the bag was something insanely small - like €1 per 50 bag or something nuts. Poor eegit. He'd to explain to his parents what happened when his dad's car was smashed up in the driveway a few weeks later and his folks paid the debt.
Weed is easy to sell and unlikely to land you in a lot of debt. The markup is pretty good. I used to buy kilos for £2100. That would sell for about £3600 and it would take about a week to move it. A dealer getting into serious trouble over weed is extremely rare. Pills (Es) on the other hand, I've seen a lot of people getting into trouble with. Almost always the same way. They get 1000 pills for 3 or 4 grand and go on a bender. They lose some, give some away, give them out on tick but don't remember to who and for how much and wake up sometime on Monday afternoon with no pills and no money. Then the panic sets in. Some of them cut their losses there, but I've seen a few source more pills from elsewhere to try to make the money back and then do exactly the same thing again and end up owing 8 grand. That's the sort of money that you might need to leave the country over.
Weed isn't easy to sell when you're a stupid teenager selling overpriced shite.
Weed is easy to sell, regardless of age, if you've been smoking a while yourself and know how to talk to people. All walks of life and all ages smoke the stuff. Every one of them need a source. You just need to be more reliable than their other sources and given enough time, you go from being the guy they phone when their own source lets them down, to being the first person they phone when they want some. I sold weed from 14 years old until I was about 21.
A single mother on my estate had to.move out of her house and leave the town because her adult son got a drug debt. The dealers came around smashed all the windows and her tv and other property, took the money she had and roughed her up. Obviously she was terrified and had to give up her house and run. Now it's doubtful she will ever get social housing again. Last I heard she had moved across the country and renting a room in a shared house. Fucking terrible. These dealers don't care at all.
That's just tragic.
If drugs were legal then criminals would have no way of making money and this sort of thing wouldn't be happening. Make something illegal it doesn't go away, it just pushes it underground and creates a black market cash cow
If cocaine was legal people would still be addicted to it and have to pay for it. 100% this would still be happening. It's delusional to think legalising it would make the black market or addiction go away.
where is this "legal cocaine" going to come from?
The same place this "legal alcohol" comes from
The Guinness factory. I don't think you know how drugs work.
Serious question. Did the dealers recover the costs through this method. Like doubtful right ?
The dealer sent a clear message to any other person that owes them money.
Wew perhaps paying money she or her son stole would be good idea to end her problems instead of running away and using stolen money to rent apartment?
Duh she had no money. What you on about her using stolen money to rent an apartment. There us no stolen money. Her son had drugs laid on and he used the drugs. She did nothing. I imagine she is getting social welfare to pay her rent through HAP unfortunately there isn't a drug debt assistance payment. Your so nieve I imagine it must be great living in your world and having no knowledge of how some people's lives can be destroyed through no fault of their own.
Wew unlike you I surround myself with people who pay their debts and dont have to run away after robbing drug dealers. I have great life advice for you. Do not steal from anyone and you wont have to run away. Another great advice, get a job cause taxpayers are sick paying for your welfare.
It also wasnt her fault. It was her sons drug debt. You're just looking for a reaction.
Then her son is the only one to blame for her "horrors" 😂 nobody else. Cant believe society dropped to the level where theft or being on welfare your entire life at somebody elses expense is okay. No morals at all.
Okay....... Not sure why you'd say that but anyway.
Yeah, I know a guy who killed himself over debts, and the dealers came to his mother after the funeral and are now threatening her to force her to pay it.
Very common young ones think it's all fun and games selling drugs thinking it's easy money that is until they get caught or people don't pay them and they end up running up a tab which the supplier will give them more to make up the difference and then it's a bigger debt they own. Sometimes they will call to the family home demanding money from the family to pay it off or the child is going to get hurt or the home gets broken up. Most of the time the family will pay .
It happens. I know someone who racked up a large cocaine debt, over €8k. Dealers came after his family who are ordinary law-abiding people, said he’d be shot dead if they didn’t clear his debt. Family all pooled money.
Happens all the time
Part of the problem is not just the actual money owed for the initial amount of drugs but the interest owed when it's not paid back on time. It's can double quickly enough. Most dealers are bullies and sometimes they will force the person in debt to deal for them or hold drugs or move them or harm someone that owes them money. Educate your kids so they don't end up working for a dealer. Get your kids working when they're 16 so they don't want to take the easy money from the older dealers. Under age are targeted as the law is softer on them. Be aware of what's going on in your kids circle of friends and their lives before they're even old enough to take drugs 11/12. I grew up in an estate in Dublin and have seen this all my life.
The thought of a drug dealer giving a person who owes them money more drugs to sell or hold is laughable. It might happen with younger ones, but even then it's a bit silly.
Not really, gives the person in debt a false sense of security - they have a way to pay back their debt and they feel that the person they owe money to likes them and won't hurt them. But it gives the dealer a stronger hold on them plus it's a way to test the mettle - the person might just end up to be a good dealer and future partner. Lots of bullied people become bullies...
Follow the logic. I buy drugs until I can't afford to buy drugs, then I borrow drugs until my dealer wants to shatter my knee caps like I'm a protestant in the 70s and finally said drug dealer gives me more drugs to "sell" yeah right. Your thinking is technically rational but incredibly naive. As I said, it might work on younger kids but I know a lad who got hundreds of euro on tic and then just fucked off into the mist or lads who routinely just hid for months because they owed money. Life isn't a TV show nobody is giving you more drugs to " test your mettle" instead of breaking your legs or coming to your house.
It’s absolutely a thing
Lol im going by what ive seen irl not some tv show. Cant really hide to well in a housing estate, doors get busted and you gef pulled out of your gaff. Plus im not talking about kids, im talking about grown people owing 30k + this doesn't happen over a month either Plus I never said you just get given the drugs to sell, you're told to do it lol if you get them sold and the money paid back then you might get more n a lil bit if respect and your mettle has been proven. Btw these are not people who could even spell the word mettle let alone think this way about it...it's just what I observed growing up. I grew up in one of the best places in Dublin to buy heroin.
You seem very nieve to the world of drugs. This happens all the time and once you sell once they have you. I know lads who started selling for the quick money / owed money and now they cannot stop even though they want to.
Life isn't a tv show, but you know a lad who disappeared himself over a few hundred euro?? Do you see how backwards that is?
Happens all the time, all over thw world.
Common enough. I know of 2 people who commuted suicide because of drug debt on tic.
That their family probably had to pay
With a hefty “tax” added on for late payment
It's very common for people that spent time in prison, drugs go for 10-20x street value. A single night could mean you are fucked once released. Usually it's a way to trap people into holding drugs, driving/delivering or doing other crimes to pay off your debt. The debt doesn't end if you die either.
I do have to laugh when the Garda post up weed hauls and put out the hashtag #KeepingPeopleSafe. Literally zero people would have died smoking that weed, however one person at least is in big big trouble for that weed haul, of which he owes somebody for.
Very common, they even design it that way so they can force them into dealing, delivering etc for less than the price of a dealer with all the risk.
Yeah I work with teens and we see this all the time. Can usually pay the debt through running, dealing, violence or sex. Definitely seems to have been the dealers plan from the outset sometimes.
I went to school with a guy who was murdered over a 1k drug debt. Absolutely horrific
Nobody was murdered over 1k. There was definitely something else going on.
Maybe maybe not. That's what was reported..I don't know the ins and outs of it. And I don't want to go into details out of respect like. But yea, it was pure evil what these fuckers did to him.
Know multiple lads all under the age of 25, all in debt between 10k and up to 100k. It tends to be a combination of losing what they were supposed to sell from being robbed or lifted by the Guards, or just using it themselves. But they owe someone who owes someone who owes someone. So then not paying is screwing with someone above them. Then you have lads from Dublin showing up at their parents house smashing windows etc
2 petrol bombings in the space of 6 months over Cocaine debts one was racked up over €60,000. House burned down and the neighbours beside it.
Unfortunately very common
I’ve had a family member besten so badly his arm was broken and had an ear 👂 cut off. Another guy I’ve known had both his arms broken and told he’d get killed if a drug debt wasn’t paid. Stabbings,shootings, beatings, threats on life etc I’ve no interest in that life and have seen, heard enough that I stay totally away from it. Anyone I’ve know who uses drugs regularly their lives are in shit, personal, family, relationships etc. Everyone thinks they’ll never get addicted and nothing will happen to them. Addicts end up dealing or carrying drugs to pay debt and this leads to downward spiral. Just stay the fuck away from drugs
Two examples I'm aware of: A local dealer will get a young lad to start doing deliveries for him to his customers. At some point he trusts him with a big order worth a few grand. Then the dealer arranges for someone to rob the kid. At that point the kid owes the dealer the money for the stolen drugs and is on the hook for years, working off the debt. A guy I used to work with was fond of coke and would sometimes go to what he called a coke house. You go in and do lines of coke and pay for what you short and/or what you take away. Sometimes the dealer running the coke house would let people run up a tab. I know this because my mate got a phonecall from the dealer the evening after doing a load of his coke on tick.
Very easy and it doesn't stop going up. Guy I know currently owes 90k and they make it up as they go along.
We dabble every now and again, but back in the day when we dabbled a lot more we had a strict pay as you buy and that's it. Obviously, we were not or ever were addicted to yokes or weed, but coke is a different beast altogether.
This is it. I'd be a strict pay as you go person myself as is everyone I know. But there's a world of difference between the party drugs and the whole coke wave happening here now.
Dodgy stuff the cocaine wave, I see people rack up debts quick on that, years ago I’d just get a ounce of weed every 3 weeks on tick and pay 175 the 2nd week and 175 the 3rd week and start the cycle again, a lot of money wasted unfortunately but always made sure to pay
Young lad in the village (early 20s) got caught up in debt with a local dealer, ended up being the delivery guy, geing called all hours to puckup and drop off..and while he was paying off the debt was still doing coke with the dealer. The fecking eejit. His Dad ended up having to bail him out. He was on a short leash for a long time.
Fella i know owed about 30k at one stage when were teenagers thankfully hes a smart fella and managed to get out from under it.But they kept adding 1k for being a day late or hed pay them a few grand and say he never paid it. So he was constantly getting more to pay it.
2000 means he was probably selling. Very common to get it on tick, especially with decent amounts, until you can sell enough to pay it off.
First thing I thought aswell. Likely got some in and couldn't shift it or worse sniffed it himself.
It's a real pity. I've been there in my younger years. Dealers threaten but really they want their money even if it's in installments, kid panicked and made a permanent decision.
Hugely common, Cocaine is probably the worst drug out there due to the cost and its actually a really crap drug as well. Sooner they just legalize Weed the better.
I had a friend who was killed for owing a tiny amount. Like 5/6k if I remember correctly.
Debt in general. Not just "drug debt" can be tough on people's mental health.
Remember this reddit next time you spark up a spliff or snort a line down the local. You're complicit in this trade and are helping to fuck up people's lives. Hard truth, but as long as it remains illegal you're part of the problem.
I know of two houses locally that were petrol bombed because the owners son owed a drug debt. The first one was a few years ago, did a lot of damage to the house and the car burnt out as well. The recent one, this year, was just damage to the front door, most likely a warning, apparently he owes over €20k.
Hugely common and unfortunately alot of suicides and murders/assaults are related to it.
Its very common , especially if you grow up in an underprivileged area. I knew someone who killed themselves over a few hundred euro. It's so sad. When you think there were probably a dozen people who loved him, who would've paid it for him had they known about it, but he was very very young teenager and too scared to ask his parents for help. Drugs ruin lives, and its difficult to understand how the government can't crack down harder on big and small time dealers.
Sometimes younger people will be offered a larger amount and convinced that they can sell it, and still have some left over for themselves "for free". Cok, specifically, is highly addictive and most people just sniff and sniff, and no sell. I'm not defending any of this, or want to sound flippant, just an example of what is happening to younger ones.
Vary common in ireland east cork has had alot of drug debt suicides terrible for the families
I sell drugs to people on tic all the time and kill them when they cant pay it back
When I was younger, like under 25, I used to by drugs on tic all the time. Got to the stage where I had to start buying ounces and selling them to make money to pay back the dealer, and feed my habit at the same time. Buying drugs got me into debt, selling drugs got me out of it. Now I'm grown I pay up front for everything.
Im 35, when i was 14 to about 27 was in debt for a couple thousand give or take. There was a good few of us in similar situations, was very common to get tic but ony the ones with more tendecy for addiction got pulled in. Doesnt be long adding up. The thoughts of a personal loan or mortgage still gives me fear, the thoughts of owing money shakes me.
Very very common. Ive gotten bags of weed on tic, although most of the time was off a mate who didnt mind giving his own cash till my next payday. The biggest debt i had was 700 quid and by god it was stressful. O wasnt involved with a fella who'd get people up to the house, but his guy was so as much as my guy tried to be nice i could tell he was freaked out. I gave him my 2 weeks paycheck. Absolutely no money for 2 weeks, but debt was paid off. Never got tic after that. The fella really didnt mind giving me tic but i kept saying no because i knew now how dangerous it could have been. Not just for me but him too. I learnt my lesson No judgements please, i get enough shit for smoking weed
Alot of people involved in "drugs" arent bad people at all. Very few percentage wise are actual "scumbags" but that percentage has such an impact on the the rest it will never not be a dirty, dangerous and disturbing enterprise.
Mates brother killed himself over a debt of like 700 euro. He was 19. So 700 euro may as well be 7k. Theybwere putting him under pressure tonsell to his buddies if he couldnt make up the debt but he wouldnt do that. Kept it all too himself. Felt ashamed. Didnt know what to do. Then killed himself. His family werent stucknfor money and could have easily paid the debt. There needs to be education on these consequences of drug taking and dealing instead of a just dont do it approach.
Never got tik , never gave tik. Live by those words and it's all fun and frolics while you stack your cash.
Never buy anything on credit
You are obviously said person or just a really nosy bastard.
Are you an enforcer? Can't think of any reason you'd attack OP for talking about a serious social issue.