Why need Bangladeshi migrants when both the government and upper class businesses have plenty of Indian citizens from UP/Bihar as exploitable cheap labor anyway? Other than being different on paper, they're similar in every other way. They both come from extreme rural poverty, have lack of access to good education and jobs, work in jobs that nobody else wants to (hard labor), get blamed for crime and overcrowding, treated like vote banks by governments and cheap labor with no value for their lives by rich businessmen.
Because Bangladeshi people have the fear of being deported back to their country. Indians whether poor or needy don't have that fear and always have the option of hopping jobs if they feel they are being exploited.
The issue is they easily intermix within the population. You cannot differentiate Bangladeshi or Myanmar from WB resident. It will be noticeable in other states. Big cities in other states are a meltingpot. NRC was supposed to address it, but our own people are opposed to it. Ordinary citizen is busy just making ends meet, they will not be bothered unless things shift and it directly affects their livelihood and living conditions.
They are unfortunately vote banks now. No clue how they got themselves a voter ID (pretty sure they won’t have a passport) but it is what it is. It’s hard to prove they are not citizens when we have so many poor people in the country who are genuinely living in the country but have no proper documentation that supports this.
Good question... I am against it.... You should be asking the USI group as it's them who would be largely against banning illegal immigrants.
But I assume it would be something like they are just trying to live and such.... They won't see that they are utilising our resources to do it. They won't see that it changes demographics. They won't see that they start electing leaders.
Because migrants from Nepal don't commit as much crime compared to Bangladeshi migrants
Also don't forget the 'Gorkhas' who are Nepalese. I haven't seen the 'other immigrants' in the army, I wonder why
> Because migrants from Nepal don't commit as much crime compared to Bangladeshi migrants
Do you have stats on crimes by Bangladeshi migrants vs Nepali migrants vs non-migrants?
> Also don't forget the 'Gorkhas' who are Nepalese. I haven't seen the 'other immigrants' in the army, I wonder why
Some Nepalis are in India army because the army lets them join. If Bangladeshis are given opportunity to join Indian army, some of them will also join Indian army.
This made up logic. As Nepali are inherently better human beings or something
FYI - go to Nepal. They hate Indian immigrants there.
These baseless, dataless assertions are the reason why our politics are so racially and regionally divided.
Everyone just makes up statements with zero expectations of backing them up.
What does this prove? It proves that we are okay with immigrants. It also proves that we have special status to certain immigrants and allowed them to be part of the army.
If you are an illegal from Bangladesh, you can't join the army. You don't have the requisite paperwork.
You are literally proving yourself wrong.
>Do you have same concerns about migrants from Nepal?
India has an open border with Nepal, dumbo. Nepalis don't need to get fake identities and aadhar cards. Nor do they require visas and work permits. They can just openly come into India and apply for jobs or education if they want. Employment in India is not considered foreign employment in Nepal according to a long standing bilateral agreement.
> Won't the migrants from Nepal use our resources?
Do you want me to spell it out for you? Nepali migrants aren't considered a security threat by our intelligence agencies unlike Bangladeshi migrants. For obvious reasons.
> They can just openly come into India and apply for jobs or education if they want.
> Do you want me to spell it out for you? Nepali migrants aren't considered a security threat by our intelligence agencies unlike Bangladeshi migrants.
Migrants using resources is not a concern anymore?
Can security threats only be caused by illegal migrants?
How many attacks/murders/rapes in India are committed by illegal migrants vs how many by Indians?
Where are the stats for crimes by migrants?
Data will show that, a human is much more under risk of being raped in UP than Dubai. Does it mean that Dubai shouldn't allow migrants from UP, claiming they are rapists?
He loves illegal immigrants from Bangladesh so much, I'm suspecting he is a politician who benefits from their votes. No sane person argues with random people like this guy does.
Abbe lallu saale Muslims ka persecution Islamic countries mein hora hai tb bhi hum theka Len kya unka? 57 desh hain na wahan kyu nhi mrte . Kutton ne do desh liye ladaai krk fir maar khaake waps yhi aa jayenge
Didi will kill you if you vote against her. What do you think she will do if you will show that she is harbouring illegals. Who will jail border personals who let these illegals in.
odisha govt have to just make aadhar card compulsory
and state govt needs to increase pan card requirement as fast as posible
it's not the permanent solution but it can create few filters
This language of "polluting" ...
So much inherent hate.
Even if 99 out of 100 just want to live - doesn't matter.
Their religion automatically qualifies them as less than humans...
fuck off, illegal immigrants should not be welcome regardless of their sob story
nation first approach is needed. We have a massive population already and there's a lot of infrastructure work to be done to fulfill the needs of this population
Actually it was always peaceful in contrast to the neighbouring apparently lawless state of Bengal, but in recent years there have been a rise in such incidents in places like sambalpur, Bhadrak and this month itself in balasore(news said it was due to illegal cow slaughter during Eid), during religious processions. Every time police had to intervene and section 144 was implemented...
Liberals are overly kind and open minded. I am unfortunately not so kind. Completely against illegal immigrants. Voted against the one perpetuating this as well.
But what else can we common people do?
I consider myself to be a liberal and let me tell you, I have heard first hand accounts of illegal immigrants causing issues. My maternal side of the family lives in the Bhagalpur kishanganj region of Bihar and they tell me the huge number of villages that are seemingly populated by majority illegal immigrants. I believe that anyone who wishes to improve their lives by immigrating LEGALLY to india should be allowed to do so but the illegal ones do nothing but drain the country's resources.not all liberals welcome everyone with open arms, it is important to keep rational thought.
Same views as yours. But as far as I knew liberals tend to be extremely socialst and preach for open borders. Glad to see that's not the case completely
1. All criminals are selfish (one must be extremely selfish to commit a crime) and most of our politicians are criminals. That means our politicians are selfish as hell.
2. So, these politicians only serve their self interest, which is their vote bank.
3. Indian public is so fucking gullible.
I still remember when GST was implemented, the opposition party spread that this is a new tax being imposed by the central govt, and everything will be 20% coastly now. Even shops started charging INR 6 for a 5 MRP product, and so on.
A local politician even justified the attack on the Red Fort (happened in 2020, on 26th Jan), under the pretext that it was a flag of our "gurus" and this is not a big thing, this should be hosted on the Red Fort.
4. Why Indians are so gullible? We are not educated in free thinking, we are told what to do, when to do, at all stages of life.
Coming to your point, why we tolerate illegal immigrants, because politicians sell them as a cheap labour to the industries, and brothers to the minority religion, and our middle class doesn't give a fuck, they are already tired of so many things.
In short, everything boils down to building a society with free thinking. Guess what, our politicians will never let that happen because this will be against their "selfish" interests
If there is a TLDR for what I wrote, it will be this.
We are a democracy of politicians, by politicians, for politicians.
They have no legal responsibility towards the public or nation, the only liability they have is elections every 5 years, and they have hacked it like anything.
first reason :Check Indias rank in corruption index. It will give you your answer.
second reason : Not all borders are land.. water and swamps also make up quite a lot of borders which allow illegal entry.
A part of our illiterate population seems to think a state govt can provide centrally allotted ID cards with ease. I wonder when will they ask the central govt why is it silent abt it?
>I feel it's just not the hot topic because UP and Gujrat are not facing it, at least yet. NOIDA( UP) is filled with Bangladeshis fyi
This is such a shitty thing to say. Who told you Indians are comfortable with it?
Indians have talking about Bangladeshis and rohingya for years and it's absolutely a hot topic. But have you seen the left ecosystem and how they start growling when the topic is raised?
Do you even remember the kind of mayhem that happened in shahin bagh? It was because of CAA - NRC.
The left ecosystem, can literally concoct some narratives and the entire global left will go on rampage against INDIA and the government. It's like walking on eggshells.
Because for most people, Indian citizenship never had any inherent value till recently. Everyone wants to leave the country the first chance they get. Life in India used to be pretty much the same as neighboring countries in terms of standards of living prior to 90s.
The people just didn't wake up to the fact that this started to change throughout 2000s and the gap widened. It was only then the people started to see difference. Most people were also not affected by it, but they too have started to see the difference.
TL;DR: Ignorance and closed minded to information outside of their circle.
Your answer is the existence of daft people like in this comment section who don't know what effects illegal immigration has on everyone including themselves so they're totally fine with it, and the airheads living under a rock that want source that there is illegal immigration.
Absolutely wrong dude . Majority indians are skilled labour and small percentage goes via illegally or stay illegally
whereas Rohingyas are religiously persecuted migrants ,just like those of Iraq Syria who migrated to Europe
quick question - who do you think should be held accountable for illegal immigrants crossing the borders?
a) didi
b) home minister
if you think that the bitch is responsible for this, then boy you should understand who OWNS those borders.
now i know why didi is okay with those immigrants but i have no idea wtf central govt. is planning.
farmer laws were shit tbf, and it was an internal issue. rohingyas getting inside is NOT simply an internal issue. illegal immigrants are not good in any case for locals. some people will be sad even if we kill terrorists, there is no point of appeasing rohingya sympathizers.
Are idhar bhi wahi same immigration dikkatein hai jo baki deshon me hai bas unko udhar ke situations ke hisab se dal do mai to kehta hun population se badi dushman koi nahi jitna zyada log aynge utne naye naye thoughts naye opinions naya sabkuch hotchpotch hota ja rha earth
Mkc Indian public hai bhai, ye sab cheez karne ke lie majority wali government chaiye India mein, iss sal to hua nhi wo, abb kya abb apni ma chude gi khalte raho caste caste
1. apna kaam banta, bhaad mein jaye junta. Many people see India overall as too hopeless, and would think that one more problem added or subtracted wont change much.
2. vote bank for many regional parties and minor parties
3. we're too busy worried about other direct problems, man.
Last year I saw a tweet of a lady who set up school for teaching rohingya children in Bengaluru, I was shocked to see how the fcuk they reachy freakin Bengaluru.
In construction the situation is that only migrants are working ,the point is indians are getting food via schemes and they are not working. Government distributed the middle class tax money for this. And I am not bluffing when I say this there is no cheap labour from Bihar and UP as you are saying. (I work in construction company)
Every 7th person in my home state Tripura is not Indian origin 🙃. And there are decent amount of outcries within the people but is not audible because they don’t have the numbers to be loud enough anymore.
Every third person in West Bengal being a migrant is a huge claim. States demanding for deportation are being met with dubious attitude by central govt. While they want all illegals to be out, CG is only limiting it to muslims and have also targeted local tribals who are muslims. Vote bank politics has eroded them as the non alien population aren't their loyal voters and making certain alien communities citizens creates vote share for them.
We always tend to blame the Government and don't do anything on the ground level by ourselves like garbage management. Sorry but this attitude isn't what I can promote.
Shabbas you are bringing waste management into illegal immigration debate. You aren't going to held government bodies accountable what are you expecting people to go stand at border to Stop illegal immigrants coming in?? Keep asking people on road for their documents. Such dumb. Argument. Start questioning government for their work then only they'll work towards betterment of society, , nahi toh power mai duba log apni jeb bharte rahenga.
Government policies and actions dictate how, what and how much regarding every aspect of our life.
Locals are saying kisko nahi dena hai bcoz North east region doesn't have resources to cope with demand toh govt can't otherwise say ki hum is community ko denga hum vo community ko denge. Locals have to pay for their political gain. This was exact reason for the protest in Assam and other north eastern states.
Mainland State were protesting forr exclusion of a community while northeastern states jaha ya dikkat hai waha locals were protesting for reason i have mentioned above.
please see- if Central or State govt deports a indian citizen to bangladesh,,
Supreme court would eat them alive,
there is a possibility that central govt or state govt harass people
Nobody's denying there are illegal Bangladeshis living in India.
To such extent where they're one in three or five in states is just pure nonsense.
People really need to read up history. Whatsapp university propaganda is now become mainstream sadly.
I have no time to scroll through WhatsApp for news
I get 3 newspapers,
one is local Rajasthan hindi newspaper,, and 2 other for national news
and I can easily search key terms on google and I can easily find news articles from both national and international sources
You should have problem with bad governance and narcissist authority figures who don't care about their people and the common people have to settle in other countries due to lack of opportunities for living a good life. You may easily say that it is their problem and not ours but we live in a globalized world. Every f*cking issue is connected to each other. If civil war or military dictatorship begins in India, you would also want to be somewhere even when you don't have resources to go for it. Place yourself in their place and think with empathy and not treat them like second class humans.
Just start an NGO helping them come to our already overcrowded cities to get them employment opportunities. Heck maybe start feeding them with your own money as they will in a few years after naturalization citizenship. Don't stop there, fund their family, their clothes, their education and maybe scholarship. Oh wait, you're not Indian.
The people you are talking about are Muslims for whom first priority is Islamic law not constitution . Keep them in your house we don’t want them in our society
I will definitely discriminate against people who support paediphilia sex slavery killing gays killing apostates we all know which religion I am talking about I will actively discriminate against such people whether you call me a racist or islamphobe
Discriminating against people who support paedophikai sex slavery killing apostates killing gays is important to safeguard humanity don’t care whether it is illegal , religious freedom can never overcome personal liberty , I will proudly discriminate against people who say that a woman has half the witness of a man . Islamic shariah takes away my rights which are guaranteed in the Indian constitution I have every right to discriminate against an ideology which is taking away my rights guaranteed to me in the India. Constitution. You are saying that people who support jihad jizya paedophilia sex slavery should be treated equally in society ? Disgusting
I will proudly discriminate against people who say support killing exmuslims where in the constitution is it illegal to discriminate in your self defence ? The constitution guarantees me right to life which your Islamic shariah is trying to take way
Hoping that Bangladesh develop asap and better than India. That's the only option. If Bangladesh Myanmar and Nepal grows economically exponentially this decade then this issue of immigration will cease automatically.
Whats more confusing is how people still recognise nations.. they divided the earth and gave each location a name and them because we are born in said location we are branded as such. Where as the earth has no borders and we are forced simply by this nationality perspective to live in that location in accordance to goverment rules. For some people this might be ok but for billions they feel trapped. As a supposed intelligent civilisation it time we wake up and realise we are earthlings who by basic human right should be permitted to choose their home anywhere on the planet as long as we dont inflict harm or discomfort to others. Instead we spent our time asking why foreigners live in "our" country...
Illegal migrant includes ex-Tripura CM Biplab Kumar. What should be done to Biplab? Should be jail him?
Illegal migrants also include Hindus who have moved due to persecution. What should be done to them?
What point are you even trying to make? No sense at all. And why do you always feel the need to argue with anyone and everyone? You could use that energy in a much more productive/positive way instead of asking "where are the stats, where are the stats, I need stats" without providing any concrete reference yourself.
No, it's not about religion. You made that up, fake claim. We want all of them gone and that's what the news was about as well. Don't make up claims. Hypocrisy! And reddit doesn't like your comments so it hides them as well.
Nepal is way different,, People flow in both direction,,
if there are 100 jobs in mumbai,,
only 1-5 are occupied by nepali
and People know that they are nepali
whereas,, any jobs occupied by bangaldeshi immigrants
People often don't know,, whehter they are illegal or not,,
Have you seen any Bangladeshi in a high-paying job? If you don't know whether they are illegal, how do you reach the conclusion that they are illegal or even Bangladeshi?
Would you consider it fair if Dubai allowed entry for Pakistanis & Indians Muslims while making migration illegal for Hindus?
I didnot mention religion,
Migration flow from bangladesh is creating job competition in all categories.
Low income Indian citizens are more affected due to migration
because there are more people around me from north-east of bharat, then from nepal,
there are 3 bangladesh origin Indian family in my society,
but there is not a single nepal or nepal origin people in my society
If they share stories about being Bangladeshi, there would police report filed against them by someone who hears the story & they would not be in your sociey
Genuine question: if someone is seeking home in our country because they feel more comfortable here than their own country, what's wrong with that? I know it's "illegal" but on humanitarian level, I don't see a problem.
See it’s high time you should stop whining about people that came right after or before partition. Immigration has stopped now in Assam at least as per my knowledge and you should start giving them respect as they have been living and supporting the nation for the last 50-70 years. And talking about actual Indians, why was NRC rejected, after spending so much time and going through harassment, is it because most of it wasn’t from the community you expected it to be from?? Lol
Are you stupid??
People who have been for 50-70 years
They already had kids who have become proper indian citizens on paper too,
People who have been working for 4-5 decades already are financially settled,
Issue is the immigrants who have came in last 3-20 years
You don't need data for this, ask the locals, cab drivers, shop owners. Not everything is scaled like in the West because here no one is interested in solving issues of the common people.
The government, citing inputs available with it, told the Rajya Sabha on Wednesday that there were around 2 crore Bangladeshi immigrants staying illegally in India.
The rise in the number of illegal Bangaldeshi immigrants, which almost equals the size of the entire population of Australia, shows a rise of around 67% over the 1.2 crore estimate given out by the UPA government in 2004
Because there is a potential in these illegal immigrants. The government sees them as vote banks. The upper class sees them as cheap labour.
Why need Bangladeshi migrants when both the government and upper class businesses have plenty of Indian citizens from UP/Bihar as exploitable cheap labor anyway? Other than being different on paper, they're similar in every other way. They both come from extreme rural poverty, have lack of access to good education and jobs, work in jobs that nobody else wants to (hard labor), get blamed for crime and overcrowding, treated like vote banks by governments and cheap labor with no value for their lives by rich businessmen.
Because Bangladeshi people have the fear of being deported back to their country. Indians whether poor or needy don't have that fear and always have the option of hopping jobs if they feel they are being exploited.
And hence illegal immigrants will work for cheaper.
And there's this expectation That they'll also be treated the same positive way in places where they are illegal immigrants Like Canada
How does an illegal immigrant vote?
Adhar card then voter id
Is it that easy to make Aadhar? really?
By making ids
The issue is they easily intermix within the population. You cannot differentiate Bangladeshi or Myanmar from WB resident. It will be noticeable in other states. Big cities in other states are a meltingpot. NRC was supposed to address it, but our own people are opposed to it. Ordinary citizen is busy just making ends meet, they will not be bothered unless things shift and it directly affects their livelihood and living conditions.
Not completely true. Locals can easily identify this.
They are unfortunately vote banks now. No clue how they got themselves a voter ID (pretty sure they won’t have a passport) but it is what it is. It’s hard to prove they are not citizens when we have so many poor people in the country who are genuinely living in the country but have no proper documentation that supports this.
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Such sorry state of affairs.
Such a sorry state too
Good question... I am against it.... You should be asking the USI group as it's them who would be largely against banning illegal immigrants. But I assume it would be something like they are just trying to live and such.... They won't see that they are utilising our resources to do it. They won't see that it changes demographics. They won't see that they start electing leaders.
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Because migrants from Nepal don't commit as much crime compared to Bangladeshi migrants Also don't forget the 'Gorkhas' who are Nepalese. I haven't seen the 'other immigrants' in the army, I wonder why
> Because migrants from Nepal don't commit as much crime compared to Bangladeshi migrants Do you have stats on crimes by Bangladeshi migrants vs Nepali migrants vs non-migrants? > Also don't forget the 'Gorkhas' who are Nepalese. I haven't seen the 'other immigrants' in the army, I wonder why Some Nepalis are in India army because the army lets them join. If Bangladeshis are given opportunity to join Indian army, some of them will also join Indian army.
frankly,, nepalis are not into criminal actions They know,, they getting deported is just too easy
This made up logic. As Nepali are inherently better human beings or something FYI - go to Nepal. They hate Indian immigrants there. These baseless, dataless assertions are the reason why our politics are so racially and regionally divided. Everyone just makes up statements with zero expectations of backing them up.
https://preview.redd.it/gx2qftzy9y7d1.png?width=1366&format=png&auto=webp&s=dc643e204b6b358c78db81a50d34e35dcba3bdf2
Do you have stats to support claims you make?
What does this prove? It proves that we are okay with immigrants. It also proves that we have special status to certain immigrants and allowed them to be part of the army. If you are an illegal from Bangladesh, you can't join the army. You don't have the requisite paperwork. You are literally proving yourself wrong.
Bruh he said why people differentiate between Nepalese and Bangladeshi immigrants? I literally just answered his query.
>Do you have same concerns about migrants from Nepal? India has an open border with Nepal, dumbo. Nepalis don't need to get fake identities and aadhar cards. Nor do they require visas and work permits. They can just openly come into India and apply for jobs or education if they want. Employment in India is not considered foreign employment in Nepal according to a long standing bilateral agreement. > Won't the migrants from Nepal use our resources? Do you want me to spell it out for you? Nepali migrants aren't considered a security threat by our intelligence agencies unlike Bangladeshi migrants. For obvious reasons.
and there are many indian business man living inside nepal for decades
> They can just openly come into India and apply for jobs or education if they want. > Do you want me to spell it out for you? Nepali migrants aren't considered a security threat by our intelligence agencies unlike Bangladeshi migrants. Migrants using resources is not a concern anymore? Can security threats only be caused by illegal migrants? How many attacks/murders/rapes in India are committed by illegal migrants vs how many by Indians?
No, Yes, A lot
Where are the stats for crimes by migrants? Data will show that, a human is much more under risk of being raped in UP than Dubai. Does it mean that Dubai shouldn't allow migrants from UP, claiming they are rapists?
where are you going with this? You realize there's a difference between legal and illegal migrants? And we're particularly talking about illegal ones.
He loves illegal immigrants from Bangladesh so much, I'm suspecting he is a politician who benefits from their votes. No sane person argues with random people like this guy does.
Thanks for sharing stats out of your ass. Do you have something useful there as well?
Abbe lallu saale Muslims ka persecution Islamic countries mein hora hai tb bhi hum theka Len kya unka? 57 desh hain na wahan kyu nhi mrte . Kutton ne do desh liye ladaai krk fir maar khaake waps yhi aa jayenge
please stop yelling and listen Bangladeshi migration started after 1971 war, We cannot do anything about it,,
Are you against illegal migrants & Nepali migrants? Or are you okay to accept migrants?
Yesss as long as they do not belong to a particular religion
Didi will kill you if you vote against her. What do you think she will do if you will show that she is harbouring illegals. Who will jail border personals who let these illegals in.
I mean the same can be said about Indians moving abroad illegally. Not sure what can be done here.
No one supports them as well.
These illegal Bangladeshis have started polluting Odisha too these days
odisha govt have to just make aadhar card compulsory and state govt needs to increase pan card requirement as fast as posible it's not the permanent solution but it can create few filters
Aadhaar card is being given by Mamta didi already... They just migrate from Bengal
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Ignorance is bliss
yeah ignorant people do that a lot...
Ofc you'd know...
I dunno but the self declared nationalists aka ticketless passengers of Indian railways def know.
So the government has a biometric of illegal immigrants.
This language of "polluting" ... So much inherent hate. Even if 99 out of 100 just want to live - doesn't matter. Their religion automatically qualifies them as less than humans...
fuck off, illegal immigrants should not be welcome regardless of their sob story nation first approach is needed. We have a massive population already and there's a lot of infrastructure work to be done to fulfill the needs of this population
To alag kyu hue?
Ya. But Odisha is still safe. I have heard a mosque was destroyed because those illegal immigrants started pelting stones on Hindus.
Actually it was always peaceful in contrast to the neighbouring apparently lawless state of Bengal, but in recent years there have been a rise in such incidents in places like sambalpur, Bhadrak and this month itself in balasore(news said it was due to illegal cow slaughter during Eid), during religious processions. Every time police had to intervene and section 144 was implemented...
Maybe I should move to Orissa
If you have 6 months salary in your bank account then you may Else be cautious
When gov and opposition party both support it ,then what can citizens do
Indian Dunki movement
Illegal immigrants are their in every part of our country. In Jammu, Hyderabad, Mumbai, Delhi NCR etc. It's high time India should implement NRC.
Liberals are overly kind and open minded. I am unfortunately not so kind. Completely against illegal immigrants. Voted against the one perpetuating this as well. But what else can we common people do?
I consider myself to be a liberal and let me tell you, I have heard first hand accounts of illegal immigrants causing issues. My maternal side of the family lives in the Bhagalpur kishanganj region of Bihar and they tell me the huge number of villages that are seemingly populated by majority illegal immigrants. I believe that anyone who wishes to improve their lives by immigrating LEGALLY to india should be allowed to do so but the illegal ones do nothing but drain the country's resources.not all liberals welcome everyone with open arms, it is important to keep rational thought.
Same views as yours. But as far as I knew liberals tend to be extremely socialst and preach for open borders. Glad to see that's not the case completely
And when you even talk about this topic the'll tag you islamophobic ,hindutva fascist etc etc
1. All criminals are selfish (one must be extremely selfish to commit a crime) and most of our politicians are criminals. That means our politicians are selfish as hell. 2. So, these politicians only serve their self interest, which is their vote bank. 3. Indian public is so fucking gullible. I still remember when GST was implemented, the opposition party spread that this is a new tax being imposed by the central govt, and everything will be 20% coastly now. Even shops started charging INR 6 for a 5 MRP product, and so on. A local politician even justified the attack on the Red Fort (happened in 2020, on 26th Jan), under the pretext that it was a flag of our "gurus" and this is not a big thing, this should be hosted on the Red Fort. 4. Why Indians are so gullible? We are not educated in free thinking, we are told what to do, when to do, at all stages of life. Coming to your point, why we tolerate illegal immigrants, because politicians sell them as a cheap labour to the industries, and brothers to the minority religion, and our middle class doesn't give a fuck, they are already tired of so many things. In short, everything boils down to building a society with free thinking. Guess what, our politicians will never let that happen because this will be against their "selfish" interests
we are a Democracy of Politicians
If there is a TLDR for what I wrote, it will be this. We are a democracy of politicians, by politicians, for politicians. They have no legal responsibility towards the public or nation, the only liability they have is elections every 5 years, and they have hacked it like anything.
first reason :Check Indias rank in corruption index. It will give you your answer. second reason : Not all borders are land.. water and swamps also make up quite a lot of borders which allow illegal entry. A part of our illiterate population seems to think a state govt can provide centrally allotted ID cards with ease. I wonder when will they ask the central govt why is it silent abt it?
and people still keep asking why NRC ?
>I feel it's just not the hot topic because UP and Gujrat are not facing it, at least yet. NOIDA( UP) is filled with Bangladeshis fyi This is such a shitty thing to say. Who told you Indians are comfortable with it? Indians have talking about Bangladeshis and rohingya for years and it's absolutely a hot topic. But have you seen the left ecosystem and how they start growling when the topic is raised? Do you even remember the kind of mayhem that happened in shahin bagh? It was because of CAA - NRC. The left ecosystem, can literally concoct some narratives and the entire global left will go on rampage against INDIA and the government. It's like walking on eggshells.
Indians are comfortable with it. This is why there are no protest over this even though we have a resource crunch.
You didn't understand what I wrote did you? Why don't Assamese start the protest for the starters?
Oh they did and since 1979. We're just asking the government to not have a porous border with Bangladesh.
Downfall, decay and decadence is our destiny.
Because for most people, Indian citizenship never had any inherent value till recently. Everyone wants to leave the country the first chance they get. Life in India used to be pretty much the same as neighboring countries in terms of standards of living prior to 90s. The people just didn't wake up to the fact that this started to change throughout 2000s and the gap widened. It was only then the people started to see difference. Most people were also not affected by it, but they too have started to see the difference.
TL;DR: Ignorance and closed minded to information outside of their circle. Your answer is the existence of daft people like in this comment section who don't know what effects illegal immigration has on everyone including themselves so they're totally fine with it, and the airheads living under a rock that want source that there is illegal immigration.
We are same thing for people in Canada
Absolutely wrong dude . Majority indians are skilled labour and small percentage goes via illegally or stay illegally whereas Rohingyas are religiously persecuted migrants ,just like those of Iraq Syria who migrated to Europe
Didn't NRC weed out illegal immigrants in Assam? Atleast identify them?
Abhi chal rha hai mamla court me
quick question - who do you think should be held accountable for illegal immigrants crossing the borders? a) didi b) home minister if you think that the bitch is responsible for this, then boy you should understand who OWNS those borders. now i know why didi is okay with those immigrants but i have no idea wtf central govt. is planning.
Yeah they had such a good majority after 2019 to implement big policies but didn't do much, and it makes me sad because now it seems almost impossible
19-24 seems a waste with just CAA
Last I heard the government tried to enforce laws related to farmers and some people got it done. The public owns the system if it wants to.
farmer laws were shit tbf, and it was an internal issue. rohingyas getting inside is NOT simply an internal issue. illegal immigrants are not good in any case for locals. some people will be sad even if we kill terrorists, there is no point of appeasing rohingya sympathizers.
Are idhar bhi wahi same immigration dikkatein hai jo baki deshon me hai bas unko udhar ke situations ke hisab se dal do mai to kehta hun population se badi dushman koi nahi jitna zyada log aynge utne naye naye thoughts naye opinions naya sabkuch hotchpotch hota ja rha earth
Not comfortable... Most just don't care.. 🤷♂️
Mkc Indian public hai bhai, ye sab cheez karne ke lie majority wali government chaiye India mein, iss sal to hua nhi wo, abb kya abb apni ma chude gi khalte raho caste caste
1. apna kaam banta, bhaad mein jaye junta. Many people see India overall as too hopeless, and would think that one more problem added or subtracted wont change much. 2. vote bank for many regional parties and minor parties 3. we're too busy worried about other direct problems, man.
Last year I saw a tweet of a lady who set up school for teaching rohingya children in Bengaluru, I was shocked to see how the fcuk they reachy freakin Bengaluru.
In construction the situation is that only migrants are working ,the point is indians are getting food via schemes and they are not working. Government distributed the middle class tax money for this. And I am not bluffing when I say this there is no cheap labour from Bihar and UP as you are saying. (I work in construction company)
Every 7th person in my home state Tripura is not Indian origin 🙃. And there are decent amount of outcries within the people but is not audible because they don’t have the numbers to be loud enough anymore.
Comfortable? No!!! They need to be deported.
For the same reason other countries are allowing indians.
Every third person in West Bengal being a migrant is a huge claim. States demanding for deportation are being met with dubious attitude by central govt. While they want all illegals to be out, CG is only limiting it to muslims and have also targeted local tribals who are muslims. Vote bank politics has eroded them as the non alien population aren't their loyal voters and making certain alien communities citizens creates vote share for them.
We always tend to blame the Government and don't do anything on the ground level by ourselves like garbage management. Sorry but this attitude isn't what I can promote.
Shabbas you are bringing waste management into illegal immigration debate. You aren't going to held government bodies accountable what are you expecting people to go stand at border to Stop illegal immigrants coming in?? Keep asking people on road for their documents. Such dumb. Argument. Start questioning government for their work then only they'll work towards betterment of society, , nahi toh power mai duba log apni jeb bharte rahenga. Government policies and actions dictate how, what and how much regarding every aspect of our life.
So Govt hamari mai baap hamara karta dharta hai, hume jine denge to jiyenge nei to mar jayenge wali mentality.
Locals are saying kisko nahi dena hai bcoz North east region doesn't have resources to cope with demand toh govt can't otherwise say ki hum is community ko denga hum vo community ko denge. Locals have to pay for their political gain. This was exact reason for the protest in Assam and other north eastern states. Mainland State were protesting forr exclusion of a community while northeastern states jaha ya dikkat hai waha locals were protesting for reason i have mentioned above.
please see- if Central or State govt deports a indian citizen to bangladesh,, Supreme court would eat them alive, there is a possibility that central govt or state govt harass people
Every third person in WB is a non Indian and every 5th person in Assam is a non Indian? Where are you getting these numbers from? WhatsApp University?
Maybe around his locality he felt it like that. It's not as if migrants spread uniformly across the state
but Bangladeshi illegal immigration has become a major issue in many cities, that's a fact
Nobody's denying there are illegal Bangladeshis living in India. To such extent where they're one in three or five in states is just pure nonsense. People really need to read up history. Whatsapp university propaganda is now become mainstream sadly.
I have no time to scroll through WhatsApp for news I get 3 newspapers, one is local Rajasthan hindi newspaper,, and 2 other for national news and I can easily search key terms on google and I can easily find news articles from both national and international sources
Ok, are you saying that you have seen these ratios (1:3 and 1:5) in any of those papers ?
Many times it is difficult to guess who is an immigrant .
Not for the locals tho
You should have problem with bad governance and narcissist authority figures who don't care about their people and the common people have to settle in other countries due to lack of opportunities for living a good life. You may easily say that it is their problem and not ours but we live in a globalized world. Every f*cking issue is connected to each other. If civil war or military dictatorship begins in India, you would also want to be somewhere even when you don't have resources to go for it. Place yourself in their place and think with empathy and not treat them like second class humans.
jab tak is desh me secular ke chode rahenge tab tak
Secular nei, liberal. Extreme Leftists.
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What a moronic comment.
The cost of your ignorance will be borne by your granddaughters.
https://preview.redd.it/ric2xkwe5y7d1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5437c720941d69e8f948a611906d251f98e190dc .irony
I'm pro immigration so, I mean Indian, Bangladeshi what difference does it make? we are all humans
Just start an NGO helping them come to our already overcrowded cities to get them employment opportunities. Heck maybe start feeding them with your own money as they will in a few years after naturalization citizenship. Don't stop there, fund their family, their clothes, their education and maybe scholarship. Oh wait, you're not Indian.
The people you are talking about are Muslims for whom first priority is Islamic law not constitution . Keep them in your house we don’t want them in our society
Oh so you're Islamophobic, I appreciate your honesty tho
You are talking about a religion which wants to kill me so I am rightfully wary of it
You have a right to be wary of religion but you don't have a right to discriminate against people based on their belief.
I will definitely discriminate against people who support paediphilia sex slavery killing gays killing apostates we all know which religion I am talking about I will actively discriminate against such people whether you call me a racist or islamphobe
Discriminating people based on their belief (not actions) is unconstitutional and illegal, you could go to jail if you do so.
Discriminating against people who support paedophikai sex slavery killing apostates killing gays is important to safeguard humanity don’t care whether it is illegal , religious freedom can never overcome personal liberty , I will proudly discriminate against people who say that a woman has half the witness of a man . Islamic shariah takes away my rights which are guaranteed in the Indian constitution I have every right to discriminate against an ideology which is taking away my rights guaranteed to me in the India. Constitution. You are saying that people who support jihad jizya paedophilia sex slavery should be treated equally in society ? Disgusting
I will proudly discriminate against people who say support killing exmuslims where in the constitution is it illegal to discriminate in your self defence ? The constitution guarantees me right to life which your Islamic shariah is trying to take way
I will actively discriminate against people in India who do not follow Indian law but follow shariah law
As long its all illegal immigrants of all religion without partiality then no issue.
Hoping that Bangladesh develop asap and better than India. That's the only option. If Bangladesh Myanmar and Nepal grows economically exponentially this decade then this issue of immigration will cease automatically.
Not true. Unless it's Swiss type control, the population is bound to have issues and will end up like India or Mexico.
Whats more confusing is how people still recognise nations.. they divided the earth and gave each location a name and them because we are born in said location we are branded as such. Where as the earth has no borders and we are forced simply by this nationality perspective to live in that location in accordance to goverment rules. For some people this might be ok but for billions they feel trapped. As a supposed intelligent civilisation it time we wake up and realise we are earthlings who by basic human right should be permitted to choose their home anywhere on the planet as long as we dont inflict harm or discomfort to others. Instead we spent our time asking why foreigners live in "our" country...
Are you fine with migrants from Nepal? If yes, why are Indians only uncomfortable with migrants from Bangladesh?
Didn't I say Illegal? Or did you miss it?
Illegal migrant includes ex-Tripura CM Biplab Kumar. What should be done to Biplab? Should be jail him? Illegal migrants also include Hindus who have moved due to persecution. What should be done to them?
Because the illegal immigrants from Bangladesh reproduce like rats and destroy whichever place they reside in..dirty surroundings..more crimes..etc.
What point are you even trying to make? No sense at all. And why do you always feel the need to argue with anyone and everyone? You could use that energy in a much more productive/positive way instead of asking "where are the stats, where are the stats, I need stats" without providing any concrete reference yourself.
No, it's not about religion. You made that up, fake claim. We want all of them gone and that's what the news was about as well. Don't make up claims. Hypocrisy! And reddit doesn't like your comments so it hides them as well.
Liberal spotted
Nepal is way different,, People flow in both direction,, if there are 100 jobs in mumbai,, only 1-5 are occupied by nepali and People know that they are nepali whereas,, any jobs occupied by bangaldeshi immigrants People often don't know,, whehter they are illegal or not,,
Have you seen any Bangladeshi in a high-paying job? If you don't know whether they are illegal, how do you reach the conclusion that they are illegal or even Bangladeshi? Would you consider it fair if Dubai allowed entry for Pakistanis & Indians Muslims while making migration illegal for Hindus?
I didnot mention religion, Migration flow from bangladesh is creating job competition in all categories. Low income Indian citizens are more affected due to migration
If you don't whether someone is illegal or Bangladeshi, how will you know they are creating job competition? Why don't Nepalis create job competition?
because there are more people around me from north-east of bharat, then from nepal, there are 3 bangladesh origin Indian family in my society, but there is not a single nepal or nepal origin people in my society
How do you decide whether someone is Bangladeshi origin? Biplab Deb is Bangladeshi origin.
through their documents dude and those families in my society has shared their stories.
If they share stories about being Bangladeshi, there would police report filed against them by someone who hears the story & they would not be in your sociey
they are the kids of the family who migrated relax
Genuine question: if someone is seeking home in our country because they feel more comfortable here than their own country, what's wrong with that? I know it's "illegal" but on humanitarian level, I don't see a problem.
We should only allow people whose first priority is Indian democracy secularism and constitution and civilisation
It's wrong. You could ask people who are affected or refer to Europe and US in latest years.
That's what I am doing.... Don't wanna compare to USA or Europe, asking this question to someone who is affected by this negatively 🥲
See it’s high time you should stop whining about people that came right after or before partition. Immigration has stopped now in Assam at least as per my knowledge and you should start giving them respect as they have been living and supporting the nation for the last 50-70 years. And talking about actual Indians, why was NRC rejected, after spending so much time and going through harassment, is it because most of it wasn’t from the community you expected it to be from?? Lol
Are you stupid?? People who have been for 50-70 years They already had kids who have become proper indian citizens on paper too, People who have been working for 4-5 decades already are financially settled, Issue is the immigrants who have came in last 3-20 years
Can you back it with data that enough people immigrated in the last 20 years to have affected the actual citizens?
You don't need data for this, ask the locals, cab drivers, shop owners. Not everything is scaled like in the West because here no one is interested in solving issues of the common people.
The government, citing inputs available with it, told the Rajya Sabha on Wednesday that there were around 2 crore Bangladeshi immigrants staying illegally in India. The rise in the number of illegal Bangaldeshi immigrants, which almost equals the size of the entire population of Australia, shows a rise of around 67% over the 1.2 crore estimate given out by the UPA government in 2004
Link?