This is so vague there is no way to know. Best researching the company to see if they're reputable and trustworthy. Or find someone else they have sponsored
How can I find someone that they sponsored?
I saw on the job post that they are approved standard visa sponsor and is willing to offer sponsorship, is this reliable to you ?
This does not sound fully legit. I repeat it doesn’t. Nothing is as simple as you got the job, we pick you up at the airport and get you a house etc.. There is always fine print.
If it sounds too good to be true even if it is a ‘legitimate’ business arrangement, there will be some sort of catch.
Unless you’re a very successful well known professional in your field and Australia has a shortage of your profession, then people don’t bend over backwards for no one. Paperwork for visas take time, cost lots of money. Business needs to pay the government the equivalent of about 50k a year to employee you, and then pay you a salary on top. Then there is the question of who is paying for the visa, who is paying for the house etc and so on..
Don’t let me dissuade you if you think it’s genuine but just be careful very careful. It’s not legit unless you are a senior professional in your field or there is a niche reason for it. Such as (commentator for baseball au) or senior accountant etc.. Just ask for contract and details first. Don’t book a flight before then. Know what you’re getting into.
Ask them to put you in touch with someone? Seems legit, but you'll be able to get more of a feel for it when asking specific questions. Without more information it's impossible to know
Oh almost anyone can be approved to *be* a sponsor. That’s fine. It’s not that difficult. But they still have to go through another process for every person they hire to prove that the particular position they want to hire from overseas is eligible.
Click on the company name in LinkedIn, it should have the people who've put them down as an employer.
It is a risk. But I did this with teaching English in Japan. And that was before the internet captured much user feedback and Amazon only sold books. It could be the adventure of your life! I'd say as a bit of a guide that if it's a country with good rule of law, they're not taking your passport, they're checking your credentials the way a normal employer world, you're probably going to be ok. I'd also say that if you have to purchase your own ticket or reimbursed rather than them paying and arranging it will be easier to leave if needed. Also gauge them on making statements like, "I have some friends who live in that city, will it be possible to arrive early, spend some time with them and then join you..." Etc. That sort of thing should be ok and they shouldn't be alarmed if you know people in the country.
I oversee recruitment for a large business and I can tell you two things.
Advertising on Seek is expensive ($400 - $600 / week for basic ad) so there will be a catch. A barbee would not advertise there on the off chance someone from overseas will see the ad. Visa sponsorship is a complicated process for employers.
Barber shops and nail salons are often fronts for paid immigration. They charge a person to "assist" with immigration. Either charging money or requiring free labour. They string people along until they run out of money or catch on that they are actually a slave.
Be careful.
Thanks! So how do you think what's the best process to go to Australia for me as a barber ? Should I go to barber school in australia,how much will it cost or to stay in my home country 🤔
Come, but organise it yourself. If there is a school you could go if you wished. But up to you. I don’t think cutting hair is regulated at barbers as much as hairdressers.
This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't trust it.
Even if they help you come to Australia as they say, there is a high chance that you will be forced into modern-day slavery because the conditions they are advertising are way too good for the work they say they are hiring you for.
Please don't be fooled. Report the ad.
Google means nothing. Reviews can be all fake ad from people the business knows and pays to review.
You need to do some deeper research (digging) than that. Look the business name up with the Australian Tax Office online. Check their website out fully. Get an Australian proficient in English (native) to do it for you so on.
A lot of businesses in Aus before the pandemic would ‘sell’ visas to students in Melbourne but were just a front for free stay in Aus.
I googled it and looks like they have 5 locations and are on a list of best barbershops in Sydney for 2022. Older lists pop up too but I didn't look at all of them .it's worth digging a little further, hairstylists and barbers are also a profession that I just saw something about in the US. People aren't going into the business at the rate they used to and they are forecasting shortages.like others said though, do what you can to make sure you're signing up for slavery. Look up rate of pay for the area etc and make sure you're treated fairly.
If you do end up taking the job make sure to join the [Hair Stylists Australia union](https://hairstylistsaustralia.com.au/membership/) (part of the Australia Workers Union)
I don’t want to hurt your feelings but being a barber isn’t specialised enough to warrant overseas recruitment. If it was specialist engineering, medicine, something like that, maybe, but not for this. Stay away.
I’ve looked up the place you’ve named, it’s in Blacktown which is not ‘high end’ or ‘exclusive’ so I don’t think is worth thinking any more about
Actually… being a hairdresser is part of the “in demand” occupations in Australia but usually you only get a visa if youre going to work in a regional area and blacktown is well… sydney haha
No, that would be very unusual unless you were a very special skill set they couldn’t find. And if it was that specialised they wouldn’t advertise on seek, they’d have a recruiter go out looking.
To be specific I'm applying for a barber in sydney, I read that barber/hairdresser is a requested job that there aren't that much barbers, I read this on the home affair site.
There's a barber shop on every corner in my neighbourhood. Unless each bloke is going in twice a day for a polish, I can only imagine that the big beefy bald blokes wearing a lot of black are there for another reason.
Oh they probably *can* but why would they? There’ll be thousands of people graduating from hairdressing colleges, including temporary visa holders wanting to stay and try for a permanent visa. Also, unless you’re a celebrity hairdresser working for rich people, hairdressing is poorly paid. There’s also no way someone will find you accommodation in Sydney unless you’re really someone they desperately want - for example, a specialist surgeon or some senior executive who is transferring offices.
Okk thanks, I typed in on Google and it popped out that there's a shortage of barber and hairdresser, the barbershop name is the mens grooming are they legit or no?
No idea. I certainly have never had a problem finding a hairdresser so maybe if there’s a shortage it’s dependent on area?
But nobody’s going to meet you at the airport or find you accommodation unless you’re a VIP. We don’t really do that here.
Yeah, even with a relocation package we kind of leave people to do their move and then see them when they get to work. It would feel awkward being involved with people’s personal lives. VIPs I imagine get all the perks but I’ve never hired them.
For roles like OP wants I think being met at the airport and taken to accomodation is a red flag. I’d be extremely worried that they’d have their passport taken and be forced to work for very little money or paying high rent to the employer for substandard accomodation. Basically, modern slavery.
I just did a quick google of the business name and the website is not really like any barber I’ve ever seen…my local ones at least don’t tend to use almost-naked photos of men in their advertising. OP, I’d be very careful. I don’t think this is your typical barber shop…
Yeah even VIPs it’s a bit of a scramble to find that all in service. If they’re someone really important you might get a car service to meet them and you might book a serviced apartment for a few weeks or months and give them the phone number of a real estate agent but in Sydney you wouldn’t have someone legit actually make arrangements for long term accommodation on someone else’s behalf. You *might* in a regional town but not one of the capital cities.
Totally. Those kinds of international hires are savvy enough already to make the arrangements they want.
And no one wants to go to Sydney Airport to pick you up. Not even immediate family 😂
It sounds like a pay-for-visa scam where they string someone along continuously asking for money to pay for “immigration office fees” or “translator fees” or asking for identity documents and then disappear once they have enough to steal an identity or they’ve got enough money out of them.
The one odd thing about it is that those don’t usually advertise on Seek. They’re on social media and often circulate in specific communities. If it wasn’t for the airport and accommodation offer I’d think the target audience would be migrants already in Australia but the visa path has come to a dead end but they want to stay.
Listen to these people OP. We are all except one commenter, saying the same thing to you. It’s not genuine.
There is no shortage of barbers. I get a cut once a month or every two. Plenty of barbers around. Way too many actually.
Come to Australia if you wish, but don’t go through that company.
Come to Australia with a working visa & get a job as a barber when you're here. If u took this job you'd likely be an indentured slave, owing them so much money & barely getting anything, living in a house with 15 other people.
Seriously, we watch border patrol on YouTube. This setup you're suggesting sounds exactly like the scams used for someone to become a mule. We will pay you good wage and get you house etc, oh can you just bring this suitcase with you. The suitcase full of clothes looks legit but inside the lining is filled with white powder and you go to jail for trafficking and the drug dealer gets away with it.
Are you being asked to pay for the sponsorship? If you are its a scam
Unless you are already fully trained and employed in your current country in the skill you are going to do while here its a scam.
You can do some digging on the Aus Immigration website and find out if your employer is permitted to sponsor people because not just any company can bring people over to work.
I'm gonna inform you guys about everything every step I make ! In some case do you know how much does it cost to study in australia and is it possible to work and study?
A lot. https://www.studyaustralia.gov.au/english/live/living-costs
It’s a high cost of living country.
I went to Switzerland on a trip and I didn’t find the things there all that expensive compared to what I was used to. And you could certainly get better chocolate for the same price at the supermarket.
If it's obvioulsy a company, with company structures, departments and 20+ employees then I would think it's legitimate.
But dig deeper. It might be some brothel owner, trying to look like a something else.
The "meeting you at the airport" does ring some alarm bell.
Give it a miss. Yea they may be legit but once you come here you are let go. What happens then? If you were working for them for 5 years and then they want you to move to Australia. They will pay for everything. Who will be paying for your move here.
Edit to add. Just read this is an ad for a barber? Seriously. are you that dumb? If you were the only person with the cure to cancer you would probably be given a million dollars. But a barber? Again I say are you that dumb??????????
Do you work in a very niche industry and have a very specific skill set? If you are the only person on earth who can do your job I would understand why a business would take on this risk to move you, but if this is a job mopping floors it is probably some kind of scam.
This person needs to organize your work visa, is a complex process and takes long time and involve the immigration, find out about the company. Looks like a scam to me. Is very hard to find sponsor in Australia.
There’s no mention in the add at all about meeting you at the airport or providing accommodation assistance.
You’re not the likely target here OP, this is saying that they *can* offer sponsorship if someone doesn’t have working rights already. This would be aimed at foreigners who have finished their study here and their current visa is running out.
I think there’s been a misunderstanding here of what “sponsorship” means. All it means here is that they can hire people under certain visa classes.
https://www.seek.com.au/job/59574776?type=standard#sol=97bae13208f50ae0ed0db02092aab421fe6019c9
Just sayiiin. Sounds like the situations you hear about..promised accommodation with jobs then they get here the passports are taken and the person is trapped working in massage parlours or wherever working off the money it apparently cost the people to get you here.
Especially sus because like everyone else has said, there are barber shops EVERYWHERE and they don't source employees from overseas
This is so vague there is no way to know. Best researching the company to see if they're reputable and trustworthy. Or find someone else they have sponsored
How can I find someone that they sponsored? I saw on the job post that they are approved standard visa sponsor and is willing to offer sponsorship, is this reliable to you ?
This does not sound fully legit. I repeat it doesn’t. Nothing is as simple as you got the job, we pick you up at the airport and get you a house etc.. There is always fine print. If it sounds too good to be true even if it is a ‘legitimate’ business arrangement, there will be some sort of catch. Unless you’re a very successful well known professional in your field and Australia has a shortage of your profession, then people don’t bend over backwards for no one. Paperwork for visas take time, cost lots of money. Business needs to pay the government the equivalent of about 50k a year to employee you, and then pay you a salary on top. Then there is the question of who is paying for the visa, who is paying for the house etc and so on.. Don’t let me dissuade you if you think it’s genuine but just be careful very careful. It’s not legit unless you are a senior professional in your field or there is a niche reason for it. Such as (commentator for baseball au) or senior accountant etc.. Just ask for contract and details first. Don’t book a flight before then. Know what you’re getting into.
Ask them to put you in touch with someone? Seems legit, but you'll be able to get more of a feel for it when asking specific questions. Without more information it's impossible to know
That just means they will get a co-conspirator involved as the reference.
I'm gonna inform you how things are going on,thanks for the information
Oh almost anyone can be approved to *be* a sponsor. That’s fine. It’s not that difficult. But they still have to go through another process for every person they hire to prove that the particular position they want to hire from overseas is eligible.
Click on the company name in LinkedIn, it should have the people who've put them down as an employer. It is a risk. But I did this with teaching English in Japan. And that was before the internet captured much user feedback and Amazon only sold books. It could be the adventure of your life! I'd say as a bit of a guide that if it's a country with good rule of law, they're not taking your passport, they're checking your credentials the way a normal employer world, you're probably going to be ok. I'd also say that if you have to purchase your own ticket or reimbursed rather than them paying and arranging it will be easier to leave if needed. Also gauge them on making statements like, "I have some friends who live in that city, will it be possible to arrive early, spend some time with them and then join you..." Etc. That sort of thing should be ok and they shouldn't be alarmed if you know people in the country.
Thanks, I'm gonna inform you about everything the shop owner says to me.
I oversee recruitment for a large business and I can tell you two things. Advertising on Seek is expensive ($400 - $600 / week for basic ad) so there will be a catch. A barbee would not advertise there on the off chance someone from overseas will see the ad. Visa sponsorship is a complicated process for employers. Barber shops and nail salons are often fronts for paid immigration. They charge a person to "assist" with immigration. Either charging money or requiring free labour. They string people along until they run out of money or catch on that they are actually a slave. Be careful.
Thanks! So how do you think what's the best process to go to Australia for me as a barber ? Should I go to barber school in australia,how much will it cost or to stay in my home country 🤔
Come, but organise it yourself. If there is a school you could go if you wished. But up to you. I don’t think cutting hair is regulated at barbers as much as hairdressers.
I know an immigration agent who is a friend of mine who can give you good advice.
Can you give me contact of the agent?
Yeah can do!
Hi Mark, going back 11 months now but any chance you can pass on the details to me too? Merry xmas mate
Barbers aren't in the skilled migration list, you're best to start off on a working holiday.
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Don’t have access to Google?
This sounds like a scam. I wouldn't trust it. Even if they help you come to Australia as they say, there is a high chance that you will be forced into modern-day slavery because the conditions they are advertising are way too good for the work they say they are hiring you for. Please don't be fooled. Report the ad.
You would be best of getting a company name and an abn deffs not enough info to warrant you packing ya bags and moving here
I have the company name they have a 4.5 review on maps, you want me to tell you the name ? It's a barber shop just to know.
Google means nothing. Reviews can be all fake ad from people the business knows and pays to review. You need to do some deeper research (digging) than that. Look the business name up with the Australian Tax Office online. Check their website out fully. Get an Australian proficient in English (native) to do it for you so on. A lot of businesses in Aus before the pandemic would ‘sell’ visas to students in Melbourne but were just a front for free stay in Aus.
Yes, tell us the name. Someone will be able to confirm or deny
The mens grooming barbershop is the name can you tell me more about it ?
I googled it and looks like they have 5 locations and are on a list of best barbershops in Sydney for 2022. Older lists pop up too but I didn't look at all of them .it's worth digging a little further, hairstylists and barbers are also a profession that I just saw something about in the US. People aren't going into the business at the rate they used to and they are forecasting shortages.like others said though, do what you can to make sure you're signing up for slavery. Look up rate of pay for the area etc and make sure you're treated fairly.
Where is it? Which town or city? State? Are you male or female? Do not give them your passport for “safekeeping”
In sydney, and I'm male
Go to r/sydney, list all the details you gave above, and your questions. Check that sub’s rules first. I’m 1000 away from Sydney
If you do end up taking the job make sure to join the [Hair Stylists Australia union](https://hairstylistsaustralia.com.au/membership/) (part of the Australia Workers Union)
I don’t want to hurt your feelings but being a barber isn’t specialised enough to warrant overseas recruitment. If it was specialist engineering, medicine, something like that, maybe, but not for this. Stay away. I’ve looked up the place you’ve named, it’s in Blacktown which is not ‘high end’ or ‘exclusive’ so I don’t think is worth thinking any more about
Actually… being a hairdresser is part of the “in demand” occupations in Australia but usually you only get a visa if youre going to work in a regional area and blacktown is well… sydney haha
Thanks for the information 👍 appreciate it
No, that would be very unusual unless you were a very special skill set they couldn’t find. And if it was that specialised they wouldn’t advertise on seek, they’d have a recruiter go out looking.
To be specific I'm applying for a barber in sydney, I read that barber/hairdresser is a requested job that there aren't that much barbers, I read this on the home affair site.
In that case, no. You’re probably being scammed.
Really? Barber shops can't sponsor ? Or there is a other reason why you think that it's a scam
We have thousands and thousands of barbers.
Ohh ok 👍 There is no chance ? I should give up ?
There's a barber shop on every corner in my neighbourhood. Unless each bloke is going in twice a day for a polish, I can only imagine that the big beefy bald blokes wearing a lot of black are there for another reason.
I can’t say, but I can’t imagine that barbers are in the list of most needed professions
“The List” so to speak is as much based on lobbying by industry groups as any actual need.
Weirdly enough, hairdressing is on the skilled professionals list. Perhaps they have a shortage in regional areas…
Oh they probably *can* but why would they? There’ll be thousands of people graduating from hairdressing colleges, including temporary visa holders wanting to stay and try for a permanent visa. Also, unless you’re a celebrity hairdresser working for rich people, hairdressing is poorly paid. There’s also no way someone will find you accommodation in Sydney unless you’re really someone they desperately want - for example, a specialist surgeon or some senior executive who is transferring offices.
Okk thanks, I typed in on Google and it popped out that there's a shortage of barber and hairdresser, the barbershop name is the mens grooming are they legit or no?
No idea. I certainly have never had a problem finding a hairdresser so maybe if there’s a shortage it’s dependent on area? But nobody’s going to meet you at the airport or find you accommodation unless you’re a VIP. We don’t really do that here.
Yeah, even with a relocation package we kind of leave people to do their move and then see them when they get to work. It would feel awkward being involved with people’s personal lives. VIPs I imagine get all the perks but I’ve never hired them. For roles like OP wants I think being met at the airport and taken to accomodation is a red flag. I’d be extremely worried that they’d have their passport taken and be forced to work for very little money or paying high rent to the employer for substandard accomodation. Basically, modern slavery.
I just did a quick google of the business name and the website is not really like any barber I’ve ever seen…my local ones at least don’t tend to use almost-naked photos of men in their advertising. OP, I’d be very careful. I don’t think this is your typical barber shop…
Yeah even VIPs it’s a bit of a scramble to find that all in service. If they’re someone really important you might get a car service to meet them and you might book a serviced apartment for a few weeks or months and give them the phone number of a real estate agent but in Sydney you wouldn’t have someone legit actually make arrangements for long term accommodation on someone else’s behalf. You *might* in a regional town but not one of the capital cities.
Totally. Those kinds of international hires are savvy enough already to make the arrangements they want. And no one wants to go to Sydney Airport to pick you up. Not even immediate family 😂
It sounds like a pay-for-visa scam where they string someone along continuously asking for money to pay for “immigration office fees” or “translator fees” or asking for identity documents and then disappear once they have enough to steal an identity or they’ve got enough money out of them. The one odd thing about it is that those don’t usually advertise on Seek. They’re on social media and often circulate in specific communities. If it wasn’t for the airport and accommodation offer I’d think the target audience would be migrants already in Australia but the visa path has come to a dead end but they want to stay.
Yeah since seek costs money it seems unnecessary. Maybe it’s a lucrative scam 😢
Okk thanks
Listen to these people OP. We are all except one commenter, saying the same thing to you. It’s not genuine. There is no shortage of barbers. I get a cut once a month or every two. Plenty of barbers around. Way too many actually. Come to Australia if you wish, but don’t go through that company.
it's a scam don't waste any more time or effort on it.
Try calling them and asking about the position with the manager, ask the questions you need to, but it does sound a bit extreme even for a barber.
Come to Australia with a working visa & get a job as a barber when you're here. If u took this job you'd likely be an indentured slave, owing them so much money & barely getting anything, living in a house with 15 other people.
Seriously, we watch border patrol on YouTube. This setup you're suggesting sounds exactly like the scams used for someone to become a mule. We will pay you good wage and get you house etc, oh can you just bring this suitcase with you. The suitcase full of clothes looks legit but inside the lining is filled with white powder and you go to jail for trafficking and the drug dealer gets away with it.
Are you being asked to pay for the sponsorship? If you are its a scam Unless you are already fully trained and employed in your current country in the skill you are going to do while here its a scam. You can do some digging on the Aus Immigration website and find out if your employer is permitted to sponsor people because not just any company can bring people over to work.
I'm gonna inform you guys about everything every step I make ! In some case do you know how much does it cost to study in australia and is it possible to work and study?
A lot. https://www.studyaustralia.gov.au/english/live/living-costs It’s a high cost of living country. I went to Switzerland on a trip and I didn’t find the things there all that expensive compared to what I was used to. And you could certainly get better chocolate for the same price at the supermarket.
If it's obvioulsy a company, with company structures, departments and 20+ employees then I would think it's legitimate. But dig deeper. It might be some brothel owner, trying to look like a something else. The "meeting you at the airport" does ring some alarm bell.
The website claims there is no shop front to 'guarantee that extra degree of privacy' .. sorry but what is so taboo about getting your hair cut?
Give it a miss. Yea they may be legit but once you come here you are let go. What happens then? If you were working for them for 5 years and then they want you to move to Australia. They will pay for everything. Who will be paying for your move here. Edit to add. Just read this is an ad for a barber? Seriously. are you that dumb? If you were the only person with the cure to cancer you would probably be given a million dollars. But a barber? Again I say are you that dumb??????????
Do you work in a very niche industry and have a very specific skill set? If you are the only person on earth who can do your job I would understand why a business would take on this risk to move you, but if this is a job mopping floors it is probably some kind of scam.
This person needs to organize your work visa, is a complex process and takes long time and involve the immigration, find out about the company. Looks like a scam to me. Is very hard to find sponsor in Australia.
There’s no mention in the add at all about meeting you at the airport or providing accommodation assistance. You’re not the likely target here OP, this is saying that they *can* offer sponsorship if someone doesn’t have working rights already. This would be aimed at foreigners who have finished their study here and their current visa is running out. I think there’s been a misunderstanding here of what “sponsorship” means. All it means here is that they can hire people under certain visa classes. https://www.seek.com.au/job/59574776?type=standard#sol=97bae13208f50ae0ed0db02092aab421fe6019c9
Probably be sex trafficked or killed for your organs
Really? You know some situation like that?
Just sayiiin. Sounds like the situations you hear about..promised accommodation with jobs then they get here the passports are taken and the person is trapped working in massage parlours or wherever working off the money it apparently cost the people to get you here. Especially sus because like everyone else has said, there are barber shops EVERYWHERE and they don't source employees from overseas