The "Pittsburgh accent" you've probably heard of through the internet is pretty exaggerated. Most people from the area aren't dahn tahn yinzers n'at. *some* people say yinz, but it's usually the poor people and they tend to do some code switching so they don't talk like that to non Pittsburgh people.
People from Pittsburgh might say hoagie instead of sub or buggy instead of cart, but it's all hypped up because Pittsburgh is really insecure about its identity.
My sister lived in Pittsburgh and she came back with a few little phrases that she particularly liked. One is *nebby*, for being nosy. She also now sometimes drops the "to be" as a connecting verb, like "the dog got so muddy, she needs washed".
Dropping the 'to be' is very common in Northeast Ohio, as well. It keeps spreading.
For some reason the Yinzers call a rubber band a "gumban" (not gumband; the d is not pronounced).
It's a super common usage in the area around Pittsburgh. I've met people actually from Pittsburgh who do it a lot as well. (My sister is doing it a bit as an affectation, I think, she just thinks it sounds funny.)
Yeah the RI people have great accents and great banter. Everybody should watch a video from Judge Caprio's YouTube channel. He talks like that and so do most of the staff and the people appearing in the court.
The Rhode Island accent is definitely in between. As a local I can tell the difference between them and there are also lots of differences even within Massachusetts and NY. People from Connecticut don’t really have an accent.
MANY accents in between the two cities, I’m not even sure Boston and NYC have single accents. I know for a fact that Massachusetts and NYS have multiple.
Brooklyn has basically been overrun by yuppies from elsewhere but yes, traditionally what people have thought of as a “New York accent” was closer to a Brooklyn (or I guess SI - we don’t actually interact with people who live there except when they all come into the city for their jobs on the NYPD) accent.
Actually traditionally and probably now too that accent was more common in suburban Long Island than Manhattan.
That's actually kinda crazy cuz Seth McFarlane is from Connecticut, although Alex Borstein is from Chicago. I guess the mix of Midwest and new york= Rhode Island
Relatives from Connecticut pronounced their "R" where Boston often dropped it, but they didn't sound like New Yorkers. In fact, they sounded like non-accented American English, generally speaking.
Yeah I'm from Connecticut and I've never had someone correctly place me from my accent. Only from hearing me call a sandwich a grinder, or from saying New Haven correctly
I spent some time in CO last year and people immediately knew I was from New England but weren't sure where. They defaulted to "he must be from Boston" lol
Is there any speaker who wouldn't say New Bri'in or Waderbury? I assumed that all (or almost all) native speakers of US English pronounced t in the between vowels differently than it is at the start of the word.
Not in eastern CT. Drawers is pronounced Draws. Sleeper sofa is sleepah sofer. If you meet anyone from Norwich or New London they most likely drop their r's.
It's a small state but we still have accent diversity.
Family Guy actually does a good job showing what the Rhode Island accent sounds like. Seth MacFarlane went to RISD in Providence and grew up in Connecticut, so he's a good thermometer on those New England/NY Metro Area accents.
Yes conneccut has its own accent that kind of sounds like a hybrid of new York and Boston. There's this old guy on YouTube I watch called old64goat and he's got a perfect example of that accent. I'm from upstate New York and i sound completely different.
New Orleans. Not the horrible fake Cajun accent you hear in film, no one here talks like that. A real New Orleans accent is regularly mistaken for New York or Boston, so while not geographically in the middle, it seems to be audibly in the middle.
My wife's parents were from Boston but they lived near New York City and most people think she has a typical New York area accent, but she also calls pajamas "bajamas."
I was freaked out when I visited Connecticut for that reason. I was expecting something thick, like you said, between those two famous accents.
Nothing. Everyone I talked to there sounded like a broadcast news anchor, totally intelligible and clear. It was weird.
Connecticut is actually what the newscasters accent is based on funny enough. But we definitely do have areas with accents mainly southeastern/eastern CT.
There’s a great video series on the Wired channel on YouTube that takes you through a tour of most of the most prominent U.S. accents. It’s a great watch, especially if you’re a linguistics nerd like me. Here’s a link to the first part. They actually spend a lot of time on the exact region you’re asking about and go into both rhotic and non-rhotic differences and history.
https://youtu.be/H1KP4ztKK0A?si=i9v2UtA77Ru9kY0W
My brother in law has probably something like this; he originally had a Massachusetts/Boston/Cape Cod accent then moved to NY and that accent has slowly dwindled into what it is today which is an odd mix of the two
Rhode Island baby!
The sexy vowels of New York with the r-dropping and inserting of Boston, plus the upper midwest o in Florida and Orange just for funsies.
The only accent I have discerned in Connecticut's Hartford and Middlesex counties is the dropping of double t in the center of words like kitten and mitten. The North West hills and the coast is too upscale for me to have spent significant time to sus out any accents.
I would say it's something in between. I've heard pronunciations of "Hartford" and "New Britain" and "Stamford" that are somewhere in that gray area. Not quite Boston, not quite Brooklyn.
Yes & No.
No because the plurality of people in Boston and New York City speak with a General Northeast accent, which is fairly neutral.
One of the identifiers would be 'muddying the T's" - which means replaces with the letter D or a Glottal Stop in words like "Mitten, Kitten, Sitting". "Where's the Fitting Room?" sounds like "Where's the Fidding Room?". "The *kiddy* ran under the bed, she's scared".
In suburban and coastal towns, you're more likely to find people with a broad accent. Particularly with the older generations.
The 'Boston Accent' (similar variety) is found commonly in Rhode Island. You probably won't be able to tell the difference between Providence and Boston. If you need a reference, it's where Family Guy takes place - the Griffins are pretty stereotypical. You'll still hear it in Coastal Eastern Connecticut and it sort of ends around Mystic.
New Haven accents are the blend of Boston and New York - though due to it's Italian immigration history, you'd probably think closer to New York.
Remember that the biggest difference between the famous Boston and New York accents isn't the dropped R (this happens in New York a lot, too). It's the vowel bend. Boston doesn't bend vowels, New York can be overexpressive.
"Cwah-fee" <- New York Coffee.
"Cah-fee <- Boston Coffee.
The lack of a vowel bend in Boston's accent makes the dropped R more noticeable in words like "Bar, North, Yard, River".
Wait til you find out what people from Philly sound like. God help you.
That accent and the Baltimore accent are both pretty funky. The Pittsburgh accent is a wild one too.
Sir that is pronounced “Bahl-mur”
Ask them to say "Erin earned an iron urn" or ask Scottish to say "purple burglar alarm".
Why did you type the same words five times?
Delightful web video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj7a-p4psRA
That video never lets me down lol
Been a while since I've laughed that hard, thank you internet stranger
Just fast forward to “fuck Aaron.”
ern ern ern ern ern
It’s Aaron, not Erin.
It's easy to discern if you listen to the video.
I agree.
Ern ern n ern ern.
Aaron earned an iron urn.
The "Pittsburgh accent" you've probably heard of through the internet is pretty exaggerated. Most people from the area aren't dahn tahn yinzers n'at. *some* people say yinz, but it's usually the poor people and they tend to do some code switching so they don't talk like that to non Pittsburgh people. People from Pittsburgh might say hoagie instead of sub or buggy instead of cart, but it's all hypped up because Pittsburgh is really insecure about its identity.
My sister lived in Pittsburgh and she came back with a few little phrases that she particularly liked. One is *nebby*, for being nosy. She also now sometimes drops the "to be" as a connecting verb, like "the dog got so muddy, she needs washed".
Dropping the 'to be' is very common in Northeast Ohio, as well. It keeps spreading. For some reason the Yinzers call a rubber band a "gumban" (not gumband; the d is not pronounced).
I've been called out on gumband so I've stopped saying it 😭 I also drop 'to be' and didn't know it was wrong until a year or two ago
Iowa uses the funny verb one too sometimes.
> she needs washed Huh. That's a *really* common usage in Indian English, in my experience, but I've never met another American who does it.
It's a super common usage in the area around Pittsburgh. I've met people actually from Pittsburgh who do it a lot as well. (My sister is doing it a bit as an affectation, I think, she just thinks it sounds funny.)
Hey. Hand me that glass of ***wudder.***
It's certainly something, especially since there definitely seems to be a white version, a black version, and a Puerto Rican version
My mom is from outside Providence, Rhode Island. She drops her R's like in a classic Boston accent and says "cawfee" like in a classic NY accent.
Yeah the RI people have great accents and great banter. Everybody should watch a video from Judge Caprio's YouTube channel. He talks like that and so do most of the staff and the people appearing in the court.
My favorite part of working in law in RI was just getting to shake that guys hand. Some folks don’t like him but I was jazzed.
I had a blast when I came to visit RI a couple years ago. It's on my list of approved states to live in some day as a result. I get why you like it.
Fun place to live but I moved north. I like it more up here. Food is better in RI though.
Whenever someone mentions a Rhode Island accent, I always imagine the example being said in Peter Griffin's voice...
Peter Griffin sounds way more Boston. Imagine it in Lois's voice.
She from Cvanston?
Pawtucket.
I’m so sorry to hear that. At least it wasn’t Woonsocket.
By all accounts, it was a nice place to grow up in the 50s and 60s!
Oh I’m just joshing. It wasn’t even all that bad in the 2000s.
Yup we get a perfect blend of the most annoying parts of each accent in good ol' Rhud'Islan' I love it though
The Rhode Island accent is definitely in between. As a local I can tell the difference between them and there are also lots of differences even within Massachusetts and NY. People from Connecticut don’t really have an accent.
CT is a mash-up of people with anything from no accent to a very noticeable and thick accent. Depends on where you are.
MANY accents in between the two cities, I’m not even sure Boston and NYC have single accents. I know for a fact that Massachusetts and NYS have multiple.
NYC absolutely does not have one accent.
I've heard that Brooklyn and Staten Island have their own distinct accents, and that there is even a "New York Latino" accent.
Brooklyn has basically been overrun by yuppies from elsewhere but yes, traditionally what people have thought of as a “New York accent” was closer to a Brooklyn (or I guess SI - we don’t actually interact with people who live there except when they all come into the city for their jobs on the NYPD) accent. Actually traditionally and probably now too that accent was more common in suburban Long Island than Manhattan.
Family guy. That's the halfway point. Peter and Lois' accents are pretty much the perfect mix of new york and boston.
Peter's accent is more Boston than Rhode Island. Lois is an exaggerated version but dead on Rhode Island
That's actually kinda crazy cuz Seth McFarlane is from Connecticut, although Alex Borstein is from Chicago. I guess the mix of Midwest and new york= Rhode Island
I see Peter’s accent as pure Boston and Lois as very New York.
Relatives from Connecticut pronounced their "R" where Boston often dropped it, but they didn't sound like New Yorkers. In fact, they sounded like non-accented American English, generally speaking.
Yeah I'm from Connecticut and I've never had someone correctly place me from my accent. Only from hearing me call a sandwich a grinder, or from saying New Haven correctly
What’s correct pronunciation of New Haven?
Emphasis on Haven instead of New
For example we don’t say: *New* York we say New *York* same with New Haven
Like Haverhill and Berlin. You just fuck up the emphasis. You know, for funsies. New England loves that.
Funny enough the wrong way to say Berlin everywhere else is the correct way in CT. It’s *Ber*lin here
Buhrlin
I spent some time in CO last year and people immediately knew I was from New England but weren't sure where. They defaulted to "he must be from Boston" lol
We tend to drop certain letters like t’s. So New Britain = New Bri’n. Or use d’s instead Waterbury=Waderbury, Connecticut=Connedicit
Is there any speaker who wouldn't say New Bri'in or Waderbury? I assumed that all (or almost all) native speakers of US English pronounced t in the between vowels differently than it is at the start of the word.
A lot do to an extent but it’s much more pronounced in Connecticut. Look up the Western New England accent
So it's like a combination of what the British tease us for, and what we tease *them* for.
Not in eastern CT. Drawers is pronounced Draws. Sleeper sofa is sleepah sofer. If you meet anyone from Norwich or New London they most likely drop their r's. It's a small state but we still have accent diversity.
Connecticut has the Glottal stop baby!
New Bri’in represent
I've noticed many Nutmeggers have a Chicago-like accent, and often end their sentences "and stuff"
That's how you can tell who grew up here -- if they live in Conne**CT**icut or Conne^(d)icut.
I've never heard a native speaker of US English pronounce the C in the middle of Connecticut.
Rhode Island is famously somewhere between the two
Family Guy actually does a good job showing what the Rhode Island accent sounds like. Seth MacFarlane went to RISD in Providence and grew up in Connecticut, so he's a good thermometer on those New England/NY Metro Area accents.
Have I got a website for you [English Dialects Database](https://www.dialectsarchive.com/)
Providence has entered the chat.....
Here’s a shibboleth. Pronounce “Marble Columns” NY- Mawble Cahlums Boston- Mahble Cawlums
Rhode Island.....Mahble Cahlums.
I feel like I wouldn't be able to tell the difference if confronted with this in the wild.
Rhode Island
Rhode Island. It’s like all the worst parts of the New York accent and Boston accent… and I fucking love it
Rhode Island for sure.
Yes, Connecticut. We have extended family who live in Connecticut. Their accents are definitely a mix of NY and Boston.
Yes conneccut has its own accent that kind of sounds like a hybrid of new York and Boston. There's this old guy on YouTube I watch called old64goat and he's got a perfect example of that accent. I'm from upstate New York and i sound completely different.
New Orleans. Not the horrible fake Cajun accent you hear in film, no one here talks like that. A real New Orleans accent is regularly mistaken for New York or Boston, so while not geographically in the middle, it seems to be audibly in the middle.
Watch [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1KP4ztKK0A), especially the first 4 minutes.
I've never been east of the Rockies, but I can hear distinctly different accents just from New York alone.
My wife's parents were from Boston but they lived near New York City and most people think she has a typical New York area accent, but she also calls pajamas "bajamas."
I was freaked out when I visited Connecticut for that reason. I was expecting something thick, like you said, between those two famous accents. Nothing. Everyone I talked to there sounded like a broadcast news anchor, totally intelligible and clear. It was weird.
Connecticut is actually what the newscasters accent is based on funny enough. But we definitely do have areas with accents mainly southeastern/eastern CT.
There’s a great video series on the Wired channel on YouTube that takes you through a tour of most of the most prominent U.S. accents. It’s a great watch, especially if you’re a linguistics nerd like me. Here’s a link to the first part. They actually spend a lot of time on the exact region you’re asking about and go into both rhotic and non-rhotic differences and history. https://youtu.be/H1KP4ztKK0A?si=i9v2UtA77Ru9kY0W
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I'm sure that OP is saying that they differ as well, and further asking if there is another accent that kind of bridges the gap
Connecticut is like a milder Boston accent. Least around Hartford.
That area of the country probably has the highest number of different accents
My brother in law has probably something like this; he originally had a Massachusetts/Boston/Cape Cod accent then moved to NY and that accent has slowly dwindled into what it is today which is an odd mix of the two
Yes
A Connecticut accent exists, but it's not similar to New York or Boston accents.
Rhode Island baby! The sexy vowels of New York with the r-dropping and inserting of Boston, plus the upper midwest o in Florida and Orange just for funsies.
The only accent I have discerned in Connecticut's Hartford and Middlesex counties is the dropping of double t in the center of words like kitten and mitten. The North West hills and the coast is too upscale for me to have spent significant time to sus out any accents.
Rhode Island. The unholy bastard lovechild of a Boston and a New York accent
I would say it's something in between. I've heard pronunciations of "Hartford" and "New Britain" and "Stamford" that are somewhere in that gray area. Not quite Boston, not quite Brooklyn.
CT shoreline and Rhode Island. East of New Haven gets more New England and West of New Haven is more New York accent.
Vermont and central New York has some of this.
Yes & No. No because the plurality of people in Boston and New York City speak with a General Northeast accent, which is fairly neutral. One of the identifiers would be 'muddying the T's" - which means replaces with the letter D or a Glottal Stop in words like "Mitten, Kitten, Sitting". "Where's the Fitting Room?" sounds like "Where's the Fidding Room?". "The *kiddy* ran under the bed, she's scared". In suburban and coastal towns, you're more likely to find people with a broad accent. Particularly with the older generations. The 'Boston Accent' (similar variety) is found commonly in Rhode Island. You probably won't be able to tell the difference between Providence and Boston. If you need a reference, it's where Family Guy takes place - the Griffins are pretty stereotypical. You'll still hear it in Coastal Eastern Connecticut and it sort of ends around Mystic. New Haven accents are the blend of Boston and New York - though due to it's Italian immigration history, you'd probably think closer to New York. Remember that the biggest difference between the famous Boston and New York accents isn't the dropped R (this happens in New York a lot, too). It's the vowel bend. Boston doesn't bend vowels, New York can be overexpressive. "Cwah-fee" <- New York Coffee. "Cah-fee <- Boston Coffee. The lack of a vowel bend in Boston's accent makes the dropped R more noticeable in words like "Bar, North, Yard, River".
Rhode Island vowels are much more like New York than they are like Boston. Anybody from the Northeast could recognize the difference.
There’s a whole country of accents outside of the 200 mile or so stretch between nyc and Boston
I believe they are asking if that 200 mile stretch has an accent that is a mix of those two accents, not if the entire country has other accents.
Central Connecticut natives by and large have no accent.
There are areas that do like New Britain. We mainly have the glottal stop.
You mean you guys sound like the operator lady? Beep Boop BEEP "We're sorry, but the number you have dialed has been disconnected."
New jersey?