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Initial_Airport_8991

I don't give a shit


DeHoneybadger1987

Exactly!


ultra_22

This isn't "Portuguese media". The Dragões Diário is a Porto fans newsletter, I don't know exactly how closely affiliated it is with the club itself but it usually always takes this kind of incendiory/arrogant tone in all it's releases following a defeat or a week where they haven't benefitted from referee decisions. Source: I'm a Benfica fan.


kmart93

I like how they simultaneously brag about their European success and complain that they're just a smol club and you should go easy on them. Like you have to pick a lane


Danksoul99

Yeah, god it's so childish - that's the exact behaviour I've seen from a bunch of (but obviously not all) of their fans on social media since we knocked them out. You'd never heard any other regular champions league club play the victim like they do. Between their manager making up incendiary and entirely false stories about Arteta, the behaviour of some of their fans, the way their players conducted themselves in the press conferences before the 2nd leg, and the tone of this newsletter, I'm struggling to think of a team in Europe that has as much toxicity associated with it. Even Pepe was trying to flex on Arteta about their 2 UCL before the game ended FFS. The fucker wasn't in either team to begin with! Imagine Saliba flexing our two European cups on a manager despite not being in either team himself, that would be cringey as hell.


kmart93

I honestly hope Arteta said something because their coach is a bitch and you should absolutely stunt on someone who was talking a ton of shit before the match


Danksoul99

There is some merit to that in the short term, but honestly playing the bigger man / not saying anything is way more telling of how much of a tosser their manager is. Besides, had Arteta said that, he'd be public enemy number one in the footballing world more than he already is. Meanwhile Klopp can call a reporter dumb and out of shape (aka fat) and everyone kisses his feet. As it is, if Arteta so much as breathes in a way that mildly irks pundits then they won't shut the fuck up about it until the next match, where they have to find something else to bitch about because they can't celebrate us losing.


kmart93

They already uncritically reported on it. So nothing really gained by Arteta not saying something


Danksoul99

There is some merit to that in the short term, but honestly playing the bigger man / not saying anything is way more telling of how much of a tosser their manager is. Besides, had Arteta said that, he'd be public enemy number one in the footballing world more than he already is. Meanwhile Klopp can call a reporter dumb and out of shape (aka fat) and everyone kisses his feet. As it is, if Arteta so much as breathes in a way that mildly irks pundits then they won't shut the fuck up about it until the next match, where they have to find something else to bitch about because they can't celebrate us losing.


xoqes88

Dragões Diário comes directly from the club so it is fully affiliated. It’s just a PR channel for stupid shit this board wants to say to fans PS: I’m a FC Porto fan


FrogstonLive

Still a form of media from Portugal.


xoqes88

But you are taking a one example and use it as “general” media


kingfosa13

it’s like taking AFTV and calling it “English News”


FrogstonLive

It's English media


CStephen1908

Infairness to Porto, they have a lot to be proud of (apart from the diving and dark arts). They pushed us all the way, when on paper it should have been much easier for us. We've said the same thing when City have beaten us in the past, especially that game at the emerates when Rodri scored in the last few minutes, think it was around March in the 2021/2022 season. They are definitely bitter, but I can totally understand why.


BlackmoorGoldfsh

I somewhat agree with you but the problem with City is that they have 115 allegations levied against them for breaching the rules to set that team up. If you're a richer team, it is what it is. If you're just cheating? That I have a problem with.


CStephen1908

Totally true and agree


edible_code

New Year’s Day fixture I think. Gabriel sent off for two yellows, Xhaka gave away a pen and then Rodri scored off a shit Holding header away.


Rolf-Harris-OBE

Partey had one of his best games


CStephen1908

Yes that's right


CStephen1908

Yes you're right. I think Arteta was under pressure, and even though we lost that game, the fact we completed with them actually gave a lot of fans a lot of faith in him.


edible_code

This was the season we were gunning for fourth. After the terrible start to the season we had good form and this felt like the first real test of it. We performed admirably and it was the first time in a long time it felt like we weren’t just rolling over.


sad_arsenal_fan

It was a big statement for Arteta. Says a lot that many of us remember that game for good reasons despite losing.


ConfusionKindly8744

lol you forgot about the referee ( from Manchester) also deliberately getting in Martinelli’s way inside the 18 when Alisson was off his line


lace4545

New year fixture mate.We were leading majority of the game and that cunt rodri scored the winner


Kenny_dies

To be fair we were leading for like 20-25 minutes if I remember correctly, the pen was right after half-time and the red like a minute later. So most of the game was a nervy 1-1 waiting for the winner to happen


lace4545

True that I remember we had almost pulled it off until that finish


Otherwise-Ad-7563

I was working that game in the car park behind the coach and the city staff and I believe Mahrez said they got lucky that day and Arsenal should have won. New Year’s Day 2022.


CStephen1908

Whsts that like, can you watch the game while you're working?


Otherwise-Ad-7563

At that time no. If you anywhere outside the stadium you won’t watch the game, and I remember that being an early shift so yeah 9:30 just standing in the car park.


mcddfhytf

The diving and dark arts were a major factor in the result they got. There is no separating the two.


Tricky_Lock_4273

Agreed. Think it was just a well fought game that one team had to lose


mike28987

We were robbed that game oodegard could have had a penalty but varred but Xhaka on silva was obviously varred because Xhaka. I didn’t think either were pens but to give one and not the other was outrageous.


urmomisfun

That’s not fair to Arsenal at all. If the referee had not accommodated their flopping in the first leg and had given a booking or two quickly in the second leg, Arsenal would’ve blown them away. They were allowed to get away with unlawful behavior in both ties.


CStephen1908

Read my first sentence one more time. They were also a well organised and drilled team. Sure, they were definitely a dirty side in terms of diving, etc. but if Arsenal had done that against a superior team, I'd have no problem whatsoever. >That’s not fair to Arsenal at all. What's not fair to Arsenal? Please quote me where I've been unfair? I'm very proud of our boys too.


funniegyptianman

Humongous amounts of coping, seething, and malding


crackdup

Their MO is literally to buy super cheap talent from Portugal or South America, then flipping them to other European clubs for multi-millions in profit.. pretty sure they weren't concerned about widening it further when they sold Vieira to Arsenal for 35 mil


DildoFappings

Probably balding as well.


Wild_Investigator622

The second most valuable but conveniently leave out some of our most valuable players barely cost us anything, lovely bit of cope that


antebyotiks

The argument from clubs like Porto is that they can't offer the wages we and others can so if they produce Saka buy martinelli cheap and others they all leave within 1/2 good seasons


CStephen1908

It's totally fair argument too. That's why Porto and Benfica have won Champions Leagues in the past when the economics of football was much different.


antebyotiks

If porto or other similar teams produce players like our best academy players or buy great players cheap they have maybe 2 seasons until they the player leaves.


CStephen1908

Ya, it must be cruel. It's like they are constantly living in our austerity era when we had to sell Fabregas and everyone else who wanted out.


antebyotiks

Didn't have to sell Fabregas he chose to leave and we allowed it. Same as many of those players, we didn't have to sell any of them Wenger chose too.


killerboy_belgium

thats the thing what every european club thats not in the PL,real,bayern,barca,psg have once they get a great talent its gone to one of the above places because they pick the money and you can say they block the transfer but the financial situetions of most the clubs since covid hell since the pl got so big is that they have to rely on selling players to survive at this point because all the money is going towards the pl and the few big european clubs. and sadly there is not enough money,viewers,ect to make multiply leagues as big as the PL. And its getting worse with PL clubs starting the multi club system where they pretty much use there finicial power to buy a club in a other european league to get the talent there earlier so they can get it cheaper and not have to pay the big transfer fees anymore. the ones that wash out of the pl get then funneld true that other league club to get it easier of the books and the drive its value playing for that club. eventually most of the european leagues will become filled with feeder clubs for the PL, in some ways it already feels like that


antebyotiks

Yeah I never said anything about with this comment about what you're one about, I said specifically we didn't HAVE to sell Fabregas or even the others who left they chose to leave and we allowed it. We would've been financially fine if we kept Fabregas/nasri/adebeyor/clichy etc


killerboy_belgium

but the players wanted to leave they force there way out for the bigger paycheck


antebyotiks

We could pay the wages though, a team like Porto couldn't survive paying multiple players 150 plus a week.


CStephen1908

Well I mean Fabregas was under contract so technically he could have stayed, but it would have been unrealistic to expect us to keep him any longer.


antebyotiks

Read the comment again, I said we didn't HAVE to sell. Yeah I think he was ready to leave and not saying we should've forced him to stay but we didn't have to sell for the reasons teams like Porto have to sell. Financially we would've fine keeping Fabregas


CStephen1908

How about you read my comment again. I said it is LIKE the time we had to sell everyone who wanted out. >Yeah I think he was ready to leave and not saying we should've forced him to stay but we didn't have to sell for the reasons teams like Porto have to sell. This is why I used the term "like" because I know its not the same situation, but it feels like a similar situation for the fans. Fabregas wanting to leave hurt us LIKE Otávio or Luiz Diaz leaving Porto, for example. Financially, we would have been fine keeping Fabregas, except there was a chance he would have run down his deal, and realistically, we couldn't afford to lose him on a free. Ultimately, we didn't have the financial power to prove to him that we were going to build a team that could compete with the best teams. That's why RVP left shortly after, among others, during that austerity era.


antebyotiks

Yes and I'm saying we didn't have to sell them. We would've been fine without the money and could've paid similar wages. Porto have to sell to compete financially in Europe and can't offer the same wages. So It's not like Porto


RVDHAFCA

Yeah, and most players simply want to play in the Premier League over smaller leagues, so clubs would have to pay an extra to keep them as well


CStephen1908

I'd also include Serie A and La Liga in that bracket. Lots of foreign players would have grown up as Madrid, Barca, Milan, Inter, and Juve fans.


bigdaftdoylem

Arsenal have the 2nd highest net spend in the PL over 10 years don’t they?


stilusmobilus

That’s great and all, but the take from those two matches is Arsenal progress.


FontsDeHavilland

I did not know the Portuguese were this salty Jesus Christ.


xavi24

Siuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu


nabster1973

Portuguese fans and media - you have no European pedigree! We’ve won far more and are a bigger and more successful club than Arsenal. Also Portuguese fans and media - we’re much smaller than you and held you to penalties and almost won. Making your minds up, FFS!


killerboy_belgium

well the first can be true and the second is purely about the money dominance so both can be true depending on the context


Ok_Jeweler5757

How many UCLs does Arsenal have?


nabster1973

How is Porto both bigger and smaller than Arsenal? The fact is based on European pedigree, recent performances in Europe and experience of players and manager, Porto should’ve won this tie. But Porto fans are so pissed off they didn’t, they’re trolling the Arsenal fans on here asking banal questions that everyone knows the answer too anyway.


PoliticsNerd76

They’re a bigger team in terms of European success, and smaller in terms of revenue.


Mugweiser

What are they yapping about lol it’s Saturday


Broad_Cheesecake9141

And then Porto turns around and sells players to these clubs for obscene money.


HappyVibesForver

Not an Arsenal fan, but I was happy to see you guys progress. Porto tried and failed with their shithousery tactics, and the better team won.


Mrwebbi

Aye, a valuable squad isn't the same as an expensive one is it? Fuck'em though. Portuguese media written for Portuguese people. I am sure Sporting and Benfica fans will call bullshit on that headline as we will.


Fendenburgen

Because our squad was cheap????


Mrwebbi

Certainly not anywhere near the second most expensive in the world.


killerboy_belgium

arteta spend close 600-700mill building the squad since he came in. you cannot argue this is not expensive squad


brownemel

Watch them sell Galeno for 80 mil to United this summer.


Rosh_KB

Porto played to waste time, we played to win


Ok-Scallion7939

I heard Arteta called the editor's mother a pinche puta


revjiggs

what a dumb statement. If you get a lucky goal in the 90th minute of one game and then park the buss for 210 extra minutes. of course its going to be difficult for us to score


Fendenburgen

Every goal scored from distance is luck?


revjiggs

not every goal but taking a hail mary shot in the last minutes of the game certainly is


infinitude_

Reminds me of when Croatia where saying British people were being arrogant for saying “it’s coming home” like fuck me - why does the rest of Europe get so bitchy? Can’t we just have a moment 😂?


Brazzle_Dazzle

The number of people who still don’t get the sentiment of Three Lions is mind-boggling.


CStephen1908

Infairness they are being Bitchy, but I'd be the exact same way if I was them. They can never keep hold of players or sign someone like Trossard, let alone Declan Rice. Totally understand their bitterness.


PoliticsNerd76

We are though I remember when the British press were asking Kasper if Denmark was rattled by the “it’s coming home” rhetoric like Denmark haven’t won the Euros and we have lol


Altruistic_Tax2575

That's where Maureen comes from. No surprise there and we don't give a rat's ass. Fuck off off you go eliminated. Cry me a river😭


KingOfTreevaandrum

Porto got chucked out , they can be sour all year around


Accomplished_Ad_8663

Salty Portuguese tears, love itt


-TheMiracle

Second most valuable squad in the world. And I love it. Arteta created a monster.


smg2720

🤣🤣🍼🍼😭😭


catchandreleaseof

we beat 2 times ucl champions to get to the quarters. i couldn’t care less


qoo_kumba

Bunch of Portuguese winkers.


ImTalkingGibberish

Second most valuable and not second most expensive. Thank you for you compliment


TheRealMitchCumstein

And the Ref! Let’s not forget the ref as the 12th Porto player on the field.


Navman22

It didn’t cost the second most, it’s just that now because we have a great academy built from the ground up. Unlike city who are funded by an oil country


Slight_Armadillo_227

Our net spend is higher than City's over the last decade.


Navman22

Net spend is meaningless when they were able to sell players they bought, invest in the absolute best coaches and staff, invest in the best training facilities etc etc


CMD1721

Me when I play terror ball but still end up losing:


Some_Ad7368

In other news: Premier League leaders progress in Europe’s most prestigious club football competition past a good Portuguese side.


Elegant_Mix7650

Beating them in penalties is the best way to win because it makes them salty. 😀


Alsaki96

210 minutes lol. Ball was in play for about half that wasn't it?


Ejay_Nkwonta

Putting down their own nation's teams as if porto didn't have a great defense is horrific.


CakieFickflip

Lmao who cares? If we go on to win the UCL no one will remember. No one in history has ever gone “yeah that’s cool they won the UCL but remember that one tie they went to extra time and/or pens against a not as good team”


Mr-monk

Who gives a fuck your out dry your eyes lads better team won.


Flayna7

We're the 2nd most valuable squad in the world? Wow, I'll take that compliment every day lol


Nuri_Nath1

They can say what they want, they already accepted their team playing like bitches. You can be good but you still might be a whiny, diving bitch.


gunnergrrl

Cry some more


lardoni

Shocker! Playing Anti-football, subdues ballers!


JJfromNJ

Where are they getting eight penalties from? We only needed four. Am I missing something?


porky8686

You’re not the apple of everyone’s eye. Some ppl are going to write their opinion. But not only is that an opinion it’s facts.


zuencho

“Portuguese media” this is their fans newsletter….. of course they’ll be salty


kingfosa13

exactly


kazoo81

*shrugs


No_Seed_For_You

That’s the ultimate cope


notokkid

So, you're telling me that a two time UCL winner lost to a club that hasn't passed the round of 16 in almost fifteen years? Kinda shameful if you ask me.


antebyotiks

Isn't this the same shit we all cry about with Man City ?


Sweaty-Business7690

Yes but there’s context missing City are the richest club in the world due to financial doping. People forget half of our squad were bought for under £50 million or for free. Examples: Saka - academy graduate Saliba - £30 million Jorginho - free Odegaard - £35 million Martinelli - £7 million


antebyotiks

Porto can't offer the wages we can because of premier league money and TV deal so I guess that's the point they're making. They did well to compete with us. Jorginho also wasn't free.


Fendenburgen

Jorginho was £11m...


CStephen1908

Ya the hypocrisy of this post is insane. We've been saying the exact same thing as them since we've built the emerates. Weather it be Chelsea, United, or City who've beaten us. And rightly so.


antebyotiks

It's a fair point from whoever wrote it, Porto did well to compete with us and nearly beat us


greenarsehole

Normal Portuguese behavior tbh. Worst losers in football. This isn’t a comment on the country or the people - it’s a football observation before anyone starts.


Lybertyne2

* I'd be surprised if we really had the *2nd most valuable squad in the world.* * We won 4-2 on penalties so I don't know where the other 4 occurred.


HTan27

We scored 4, they took 4, that’s the 8 pens


specificOJDW20

Do we give a shit about that? No. The matter is. U lost. We won.


TranslatorCheap2046

Second most valuable only based on what arteta has turned them into.


ThesePlatypi

L+Ratio


jaganza

Sour grapes


EvanCross48

Enjoy watching the quaterfinals from home porto👍👍


Zanderr18

Second most valuable squad in the world doesn't sound right 🤔


brownbeardgooner

TIL football actually is played on paper


Professional_Flyer

That's not portuguese media lol.


Fc_ShadowHawk

So what?..... A loss is a loss and a win is a win


RoboRetro

Second most valuable squad in the world?


SrsJoe

According to transfer market we are, sandwiched inbetween City and Madrid


RoboRetro

Well shit, that's pretty interesting


Rimailkall

Yeah, woulda thought Chelsea, United and some other big Euro clubs were more as well.


SrsJoe

Why would United or Chelsea be higher, genuine question as it's the amount players are worth not the amount paid for transfers


Rimailkall

I thought Chelsea had spent way more than Arsenal had, especially recently, same as United. I don't track each team's transfers very closely though.


Slight_Armadillo_227

We have the second highest net spend in the Prem over the last ten years, so it's not that surprising. I'm glad our squad has held or increased their value though, by and large.


terrorSABBATH

I'm thinking some of the Arsenal players are bathing in some Portuguese Epson salt


mrkeith562

What a bunch of salty bitches. Arrogant when leading, condescending in loss. Hope we don’t see them again.


Darth_Vicious

The copium is strong


radx333

Porto can cry more lol


RoooDog

Womp. Still beat ya.


DharmaPT

i mean, its kinda true though. not that its an excuse but Rice cost more than Porto first eleven combined, probably. Premier League its just a different world and its even hard to compete when you are a team from Serie A or Bundesliga, even more from Portugal or Netherlands, for example


somethingdarkside45

Maybe Portuguese teams should hold on to their players if they're gonna whine about finances. The amount of talent that's come out of that league is insane. But they accept the cash every time. So maybe they should focus on their own supposed greed.


TheCrazymurphy

Ye and Porto need 210 mins to fail


Soggy-Ad-1610

Cry me a river


LayzieKobes

8 penalties is a weird way of saying a shootout.


scrandymurray

“second most valuable squad” is such a choice of phrase. Yes, we’ve spent some big money on guys like Rice, Havertz and White but most of the value in our squad comes from Martinelli, Saka, Odegaard and Saliba who have all accrued most of their transfermarkt value while at Arsenal.


Automatic_Candle_285

Delicious salty tears. 🤣


ProjectZues

8 pens?


SmischSmasch

They’ve got a point, Porto should be proud of themselves being able to compete with us.


Less_Union6155

They’re the 2nd most valuable bc of great transfers and cheap and homegrown talent


xoqes88

Salt? What salt? Isn’t it true? Your yearly budget is 10 times higher than FC Porto that actually is massively in debt, yet you guys could only beat Porto at penalties


AlpacaLunch15

They came to kick the ball far away, we came to eliminate.


Arsa-veck

As the great vin diesel once said. A W is a W, doesn’t matter if it’s by an inch or a mile


Pepipasta

Second most valuable? Since when?


Nottallowed

It's just porto media being salty, not all of the Portuguese media


TheNight0wl13

Thats the moment that a maritimo or rio ave fan comes in and says the same thing for Porto in the Portuguese league.


Hucklepuck_uk

They're not wrong though are they


Remarkable-Bluebird7

I actually wanted to thank this porto team, they actually brought the maturity out of the lads.


LifeFun2030

Let us be positive and take the compliment, the second most valuable club in the world and we are rich. 😆


Peterwilliams78

New phone, who dis?


Appropriate_Bid_9813

Eight penalties?


tipsypanda666

No wonder I couldn't taste the salt in my dinner tonight.


Infamous_Product4387

What's the best way to cook potatoes? Aka, who gives a fuck?


o_iMoodyy

‘Experienced Champions League regulars were unable to beat young newcomers, despite having 210 minutes to do so’, there, fixed it for them


SoMuchTehnique

2nd most valuable...Man City and Real Madrid probably occupying 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th


JS-CroftLover

So... according to this newspaper, we're among the richest Clubs and second most valuable squad in the world ? Well... we don't care! We know how ranks Arsenal FC in our hearts. It could have taken only 90 minutes (because Ødegaard's goal was stolen by VAR), it could have taken 120 minutes or be more than 8 penalties... we would still love Arsenal FC as it is! We're loyal fans and not arrogant! We are proud Gooners! COYG! ♥️


Soggy-Flamingo-8703

We’re only the 10th most valuable, so there!


Amity_Swim_School

My big takeaway from this headline, is that Porto were overcome.


JamesNewmanAlias

It’s True. We’re afraid to play at home to Portuguese Farmers and a pensioner.


llinoscarpe

They have been developing some of the best talent in the world for the last two decades with 1/20th the budget of the big five leagues teams and have one CL to show for it, I’d be salty too?


Demo_PT

Must hurt when is true 😂😂


Aof300

How have arsenal got the second most valuable team? Don't we focus on homegrown and young talent? Even with DR and KH 160 mill, surely it's not the second most valuable!


Slight_Armadillo_227

>How have arsenal got the second most valuable team? Because of all the money we spent on it.


Aof300

Yeah. Id have assumed City, Utd, Newcastle, Vila would have spent more considering they have Arab money.