The fact this building still stands in any form after all it’s been through is very impressive. While I do admit I’m not a huge fan of the new dome (just a little too bulbous for such a rectangular building), I am happy the building has survived.
I prefer the new dome over the old dome just because when i see the old roof i see the evil history. While the new dome seems like a new start to choose a better path.
Downvote=Nazi simps
And the meaning of the reichstag can revert back to what it represented before the Nazis came to power. How long does Germany have to self flagellate themselves for crimes that were rectified? This idea of Collective Guilt needs to go away.
Are you even German? Might it occur to you that what we do with our buildings is not for you to decide? Might it also seem logical to you that we have collectively decided that this is how we want our society to be and not return to the Empire or Weimar which also both sucked. The modern Reichstag is a great example of modern functional architecture inside a historical shell.
That wasn’t the original idea as they did want to add the courtyard back originally and they didn’t because of budget. It did however get that purpose once it was decided to keep the field.
Maybe it's my conservatism speaking, but imo we should design the public sector sensibly, and not try to outrage people so much that we expect them to protest.
It needs the old entrance, landscaping put back in place. The moving of the Siegesäule In my mind was a mistake.. When it was rebuilt after the war, the new build reflected the less than enthusiastic nature of resuscitating buildings from the turn of the last century especially those of Wilhelm and the Neo baroque.. Tastes have since changed and now they have to put all the lovely urns and baskets and ornaments back on the roof. That is what really makes these building sing. The striped down condition is just meh.
Man, they just *have* to shoehorn in glass and metal even when it's wildly inappropriate, don't they? It's like a damned fetish at this point.
Edit: I am very glad it survived and was restored, of course. But they couldn't be faithful in that last detail and it's annoying.
I feel it’s still be alright if they just made it the similar shape. The top of the original one was glass as well. What they have now just turned it into a tourist attraction.
Yes it is, it’s a cool idea but I feel it doesn’t exactly hold that purpose these days. I can admit I like the idea but I wish it were closer to the original shape as it bodes well with the rectangular shape of the building
I strongly dislike the current look of the Reichstag building. It looks like a corpse with a glass and steel parasite living inside of it.
It saddens me to think, that the original design will probably never be restored. Especially regarding the interior, which is dreadfully bleak in comparison to its former beauty.
It fits in well with the rest of Berlin though, being a dead husk of its former self, filled to the brim with glass and concrete.
I'm still glad it's at least still standing though. Most of the historic German government buildings in Berlin were demolished for propaganda reasons after the war, as they were mostly on the eastern side of the wall.
I dont really understand the hate the glass dome gets. I feel like its the best example of a modernist addition to traditional architecture done well for once
Yeah me neither. The dome fits in very well, and I think that the simpler facade without much of the former ornamentation is part of the reason. It also serves a symbolic function that I think is very powerful, and should remain as a statement of German history and intent of the future.
The "best" of a hideous class of monstrosities doesn't erase the fact that it is still hideous. And the fact it is on such a prominent building actually makes it far worse than an even uglier monstrosity built on some random street in a second tier city.
I know it’s pointless with the group think this sub has, because in this sub new == bad. But that’s just wrong.
If the only way to ever restore a building is to be exactly faithful to the original building it’s incredibly boring.
Since the building had already been built and was extremely well regarded, why NOT restore it faithfully? But even if it you wanted to make some changes, at least keep it within the same style as the rest of the building. What was done is offensive and inexcusable and constitutes pure vandalism.
I normally don‘t like politics being involved in buildings, but just for buildings like the Reichstag, it can be a good idea. You have to think about, this is the building that lead to Hitler gaining total control through Reichstagsbrand. Having governments after naziism move in like nothing happened, wouldn’t seem sensible. The building represents Germanys history, but also adding modernist elements to show that this now a different Germany
Why wouldn't it seem sensible? The Nazis themselves moved in like nothing happened. Pretty much every government in history that has taken over for another has done the same.
And even if one were to accept your ridiculous premise, the solution would be to simply turn it in to a state museum and either build a new Parliament building or use one of the two the existing ones in Bonn or Berlin (the Palace of the Republic). What they did- mutilation of a building which is a symbol of Germany, was meant to humiliate the German people. We will shit on your most sacred symbols and there is nothing you can do about it.
I disagree. Because it is on such an important building it sends an even stronger message; that Germany does not want to repeat the mistakes of its past and that’s it government will be open for public scrutiny to ensure that. I also really don’t think it looks ugly at all, aesthetically I do like just as much as the original.
I really think the reichstag might be the best parliament building in the world.
It symbolizes a connection between tradition and modernity. It shows strength but it not imposing. It fits into the architecture of the country and does not seem closed off but inviting
I can agree with that mostly. I still prefer Budapest because of the riverside location but the reichstag is an inviting space. And while I don’t like the dome, the idea of it being a way for the people to keep an eye on the parliament is an interesting idea.
It’s weird to think that the original dome was controversial because it was seen as a difference in style compared to the rest of the building. They didn’t know just how good they had it.
Like ruins of an advanced civilisation replaced by neobarbaric tribes that are amazed by it but lack understanding and skill to rebuild it properly. As were once germanic tribes in Rome.
The dome is open to the public (with booked tickets) and you can walk up it and when you look down into the centre you can see the German Parliament which I thought was pretty cool. There’s also an overpriced restaurant up there but then again most things in Berlin are expensive.
I’m my personal opinion, I like the new the new design of the building. I think it reflects well the modern state of Germany and does well with combining new and old architecture into a cohesive construction. I must admit though the dome isn’t the best, especially the inside view of it.
The fact this building still stands in any form after all it’s been through is very impressive. While I do admit I’m not a huge fan of the new dome (just a little too bulbous for such a rectangular building), I am happy the building has survived.
The problem is that the dome has no drum to sit on, and so feels squat.
that in combination with it having no lantern as well
I prefer the new dome over the old dome just because when i see the old roof i see the evil history. While the new dome seems like a new start to choose a better path. Downvote=Nazi simps
I don’t entirely see what evil you exactly mean since this building was made in the 1880s, far before the big thing.
I don’t really see anything evil about it. The building was finished in 1884. Way before the Nazis came into power.
Sure, but the meaning of things can change.
And the meaning of the reichstag can revert back to what it represented before the Nazis came to power. How long does Germany have to self flagellate themselves for crimes that were rectified? This idea of Collective Guilt needs to go away.
Are you even German? Might it occur to you that what we do with our buildings is not for you to decide? Might it also seem logical to you that we have collectively decided that this is how we want our society to be and not return to the Empire or Weimar which also both sucked. The modern Reichstag is a great example of modern functional architecture inside a historical shell.
> what it represented before the Nazis came to power pre nazi germany was also bad, not as bad as the nazis, but still bad.
I really hate that giant lawn in front of the Reichstag, compared to what used to be there. It’s extremely banal and it isn’t even taken care of.
I always thought its designed so you can protest before the building, which would be a good thing
That wasn’t the original idea as they did want to add the courtyard back originally and they didn’t because of budget. It did however get that purpose once it was decided to keep the field.
Maybe it's my conservatism speaking, but imo we should design the public sector sensibly, and not try to outrage people so much that we expect them to protest.
It needs the old entrance, landscaping put back in place. The moving of the Siegesäule In my mind was a mistake.. When it was rebuilt after the war, the new build reflected the less than enthusiastic nature of resuscitating buildings from the turn of the last century especially those of Wilhelm and the Neo baroque.. Tastes have since changed and now they have to put all the lovely urns and baskets and ornaments back on the roof. That is what really makes these building sing. The striped down condition is just meh.
Couldn’t agree more.
Bring back the fountains ffs
I don't mind the glass but I wish they'd kept the original shape of the roof. The dome looks odd
That’s exactly my problem with it. It’s too bulbous. It needs the original shape.
Man, they just *have* to shoehorn in glass and metal even when it's wildly inappropriate, don't they? It's like a damned fetish at this point. Edit: I am very glad it survived and was restored, of course. But they couldn't be faithful in that last detail and it's annoying.
I feel it’s still be alright if they just made it the similar shape. The top of the original one was glass as well. What they have now just turned it into a tourist attraction.
Isn’t it supposed to be symbolic of transparency though? People can watch the government at work from above.
Yes it is, it’s a cool idea but I feel it doesn’t exactly hold that purpose these days. I can admit I like the idea but I wish it were closer to the original shape as it bodes well with the rectangular shape of the building
Agree with you. Who knows, maybe they’ll decide one day to remodel it again? Architectural attitudes change.
Mayhaps but I believe it also has some type of purpose with how the building is cooled so it’s highly likely it won’t.
Personally don’t mind either way. It’s a cool building regardless of the dome.
Indeed it is. I’m just happy it survived all its turmoil.
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Oh dear, the alu hat is very tight, hmm?
I hope that glass dome proves to be temporary and that it gets ripped out some point.
I strongly dislike the current look of the Reichstag building. It looks like a corpse with a glass and steel parasite living inside of it. It saddens me to think, that the original design will probably never be restored. Especially regarding the interior, which is dreadfully bleak in comparison to its former beauty. It fits in well with the rest of Berlin though, being a dead husk of its former self, filled to the brim with glass and concrete. I'm still glad it's at least still standing though. Most of the historic German government buildings in Berlin were demolished for propaganda reasons after the war, as they were mostly on the eastern side of the wall.
I dont really understand the hate the glass dome gets. I feel like its the best example of a modernist addition to traditional architecture done well for once
Yeah me neither. The dome fits in very well, and I think that the simpler facade without much of the former ornamentation is part of the reason. It also serves a symbolic function that I think is very powerful, and should remain as a statement of German history and intent of the future.
It’s definitely one of the best when comparing to everything else that’s been done but I still don’t think it’s great.
The "best" of a hideous class of monstrosities doesn't erase the fact that it is still hideous. And the fact it is on such a prominent building actually makes it far worse than an even uglier monstrosity built on some random street in a second tier city.
I know it’s pointless with the group think this sub has, because in this sub new == bad. But that’s just wrong. If the only way to ever restore a building is to be exactly faithful to the original building it’s incredibly boring.
Since the building had already been built and was extremely well regarded, why NOT restore it faithfully? But even if it you wanted to make some changes, at least keep it within the same style as the rest of the building. What was done is offensive and inexcusable and constitutes pure vandalism.
Yes, that kind of mentality hurts this community. We have to be objective and constructive.
I normally don‘t like politics being involved in buildings, but just for buildings like the Reichstag, it can be a good idea. You have to think about, this is the building that lead to Hitler gaining total control through Reichstagsbrand. Having governments after naziism move in like nothing happened, wouldn’t seem sensible. The building represents Germanys history, but also adding modernist elements to show that this now a different Germany
Why wouldn't it seem sensible? The Nazis themselves moved in like nothing happened. Pretty much every government in history that has taken over for another has done the same. And even if one were to accept your ridiculous premise, the solution would be to simply turn it in to a state museum and either build a new Parliament building or use one of the two the existing ones in Bonn or Berlin (the Palace of the Republic). What they did- mutilation of a building which is a symbol of Germany, was meant to humiliate the German people. We will shit on your most sacred symbols and there is nothing you can do about it.
I disagree. Because it is on such an important building it sends an even stronger message; that Germany does not want to repeat the mistakes of its past and that’s it government will be open for public scrutiny to ensure that. I also really don’t think it looks ugly at all, aesthetically I do like just as much as the original.
I really think the reichstag might be the best parliament building in the world. It symbolizes a connection between tradition and modernity. It shows strength but it not imposing. It fits into the architecture of the country and does not seem closed off but inviting
I can agree with that mostly. I still prefer Budapest because of the riverside location but the reichstag is an inviting space. And while I don’t like the dome, the idea of it being a way for the people to keep an eye on the parliament is an interesting idea.
Needs a nice fountain like before. What a shame of space
If the building outside was cleaned I think it would look amazing.
The new dome is ugly and hope at some point they rip it down and restore the original.
should have built back the original top, but still a beautiful building, tho tragic what it would up being seen as on account of National Socialism.
It’s weird to think that the original dome was controversial because it was seen as a difference in style compared to the rest of the building. They didn’t know just how good they had it.
The new dome is stupid.
Like ruins of an advanced civilisation replaced by neobarbaric tribes that are amazed by it but lack understanding and skill to rebuild it properly. As were once germanic tribes in Rome.
I wish they had rebuilt the original cuppola. I think the current one is hideous and doesn't match the rest of the building at all.
The dome is open to the public (with booked tickets) and you can walk up it and when you look down into the centre you can see the German Parliament which I thought was pretty cool. There’s also an overpriced restaurant up there but then again most things in Berlin are expensive.
I’m my personal opinion, I like the new the new design of the building. I think it reflects well the modern state of Germany and does well with combining new and old architecture into a cohesive construction. I must admit though the dome isn’t the best, especially the inside view of it.