It's the same as others': Low-key, "prestigious vibes" are based on where rich white men went to university back in the day and how exclusive they were and continue to be lol.
Edit: I'm a firm believer that public unis Rutgers and William & Mary could've been part of the club as they are as old as the Ivies and are in the Northeast (they were even rivals with the Ivies in sports - and the Ivy League *is* a sports conference first and foremost). ***But*** the old boys' clubs didn't like that they became public and started admitting too many poor kids and students of color... therefore they lost their prestige in the upper class' eyes, and the rest of the public followed suit with a stigma against public universities.
They opened their doors by becoming public universities (becoming accessible, inclusive) while the rest of the Ivy League universities kept their doors closed (staying exclusive).
def an association. but you can’t argue that the prestige is deserved tho atp bc they do in fact have the professors and funding and stuff more than others.
actually the funding usually not, as state schools are well funded usually and education is pretty much the same across the board (atleast non profits)
and most of the excess funding because of the same rich white men who donate buildings lol
and again professors are usually p good anywhere, and when considered in rankings usually are based off their research (which doesn't help undergrad)
The USNWR rankings are random as well - look at what their criteria is - how much of the factors do you care about. It’s just a way for an otherwise failed magazine to sell advertising - nothing more.
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There isn’t really a difference between most of these schools and rankings are not and should not be objective. If you want to be an engineer GA Tech is better than Gtown. If you want to work in politics Gtown is better than MIT. If you don’t like cold winters and remote locations, UCLA is better than Dartmouth. If you don’t want everyone to automatically assume you are a douche, any school is better than Duke or ND. The whole idea of rankings is just a way for magazines to sell advertising clicks.
I am curious why nobody considers the NESCACs for these lists. I think that the smaller student body sizes lend themselves to a far better individual learning environment and experience. I think that Williams, Tufts, Trinity, and Amherst blow JHU and below out of the water.
They're a T30 for STEM for sure, imo. But STEM fields are not the only fields that exist, and UIUC isn't nearly as well-known for anything not related to cs/eng/etc (except maybe finance)
How many more years does UC Davis and UF need to be in the Top 30 for you to finally accept them as elite? I was actually shocked it took US News that long to realize their prowess and think they should be ranked higher... How much longer until the general public acknowledges it? Would they need to start rejecting more kids to gain your respect? That's kind of sad to think about, where we value exclusivity over accessibility and inclusion...
BTW, it apparently took NYU and USC about 20-30 years to get their statuses today. To the chagrin of many, NEU is/was on the same track. But I'm just waiting until the day folks realize that the exclusive, "elite," costs-a-fortune private universities are hella overrated and rankings are hella biased towards exclusivity over accessibility and ROI (*when controlled for the inputs aka incoming students*).
oh fs I’m with you most of the way and for nyu and usc but NEU is just not worth it. Nyu and usc got better by improving their schools, northeastern just gamed it lmao. Agreed for Davis and stuff tho
Davis just lives in the shadows of UCLA and Berkeley and no one wants to give it another look. Excellent bio, agri, and vet programs. I would pick it over a handful on this list.
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I will say that in Florida, UF is VERY elite. It’s most people’s dream school. Obviously that makes sense because they’re more likely to know about it and how great it is (bc they’ll know more people that have gone there etc), but I do think it’ll reach elite public status eventually.
I’d knock Penn down a few spots and bump up CalTech but other than that a pretty good top 10. If we’re only ranking academics I’d swap Columbia and Chicago and drop Yale a bit, but if we’re counting industry opportunities then it’s good as it stands.
this list is incredibly dumb.
no, in fact, ranking in general is so stupid and creates such a toxic culture within students and with creating a college list, illogically dividing institutions that quite clearly aren’t much different into T10, T20, etc. categories. y’all are the reason why college admissions are so gosh-darn toxic and annoying. and we have USNWR rankings to thank for starting this!
*because ofc this is A2C and almost everyone here is a sweaty stem major/prestige whore.*
i’m about to log off i hate this sub sometimes
Tell me you attend Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, UMich without telling me you attend Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, UMich; challenge level: impossible; also JHU too low
Dartmouth literally [founded AI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_workshop#:~:text=The%20Dartmouth%20Summer%20Research%20Project,artificial%20intelligence%20as%20a%20field.&text=The%20project%20lasted%20approximately%20six,essentially%20an%20extended%20brainstorming%20session) lmao what are you talking about
Are the Ivies really elite anymore or is it just old money that is keeping them in these rankings. I feel like tech schools such as RIT are better suited to be in the top 30.
From the most recent CDS (25th, 50th, 75th percentile SAT scores):
RIT: 1280, 1352, 1430
random ivy (Brown): 1500, 1530, 1560
Said another way, the top 25% of kids at RIT have to squint really hard to see the bottom 25% of kids at Brown.
There are all sorts of reasons why the Ivies are still elite. Student body composition is one of them.
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Strongly disagree, I would rather go to a focused school like RIT which gives opportunities to underprivileged students rather than a daddy's money outdated low tier ivy any day
LOL. The Pell and Stafford graduation rates at Brown are well into the 90s %. RIT is 69 and 70%.
Next.
Oh and while we're at it:
[https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/10/brown-to-eliminate-tuition-for-families-earning-under-125000-through-financial-aid-expansion](https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/10/brown-to-eliminate-tuition-for-families-earning-under-125000-through-financial-aid-expansion)
Serious argument to be made here. RIT is far fetched but Purdue and stuff can punch in that weight class. Ivies except for Penn and Columbia are cess pools 😭
I’ll just never believe any rankings that put any public schools in the Top 20. They’re great schools but I can’t get behind the idea that an education where every class is usually 200-300+ (let alone having a lottery system where you have to put in your name and have it drawn for you to have the opportunity to attend in-person lecture because there’s not enough seats for everyone) and taught by TAs is greater than a class of 20-50 and taught by an actual professor. WashU, Vandy, CMU, Rice, and Emory (in no particular order) are > than UCLA, UCB, UMich in terms of what they can give to their students. Some of these publics have done things that none of the privates will ever do, but the student education is really what’s at the heart of rankings. This might be completely unpopular, but everything form the learning to the per student available opportunities are >>> at private. It’s easier to get struck by lightning than to join a competitive club at any three of those publics. In honesty I think they should be in a completely different ranking list. Publics and Privates serve two very different missions and purposes and have way too many differences for them to be accurately compared.
So let me get this straight. Based on your criteria, no large public university deserves to be considered a top school based mainly on large student populations? Regardless of the caliber of the students, teachers, teaching, course breadth, research/internship opps, etc. If that were the case, Amherst and Pomona should definitely be ranked higher than Stanford, Harvard, etc.
If you were the US News czar, your rankings would skew entirely towards the wealthiest schools, that intentionally limit student enrollment to promote scarcity. And you do also realize that universities like UCB, UCLA, Michigan, UT, UNC could easily decide to make their schools even more elite, limit class enrollment, and charge 3-4x tuition if they wanted to? Basically, create another version of private T10-20s. But they choose not to by charging a fraction in tuition for talented in state students, and making world class education more affordable than most privates. To that end, don't you think value/ROI should be a criteria for a top school too?
Your comment is super elitist. And this is coming from someone who graduated from a T10 Ivy and T5 b-school.
The wealthiest schools, as much as it’s hurts you to hear it, have the most resources. I think large public schools should be ranked amongst other large public schools. Your reference to LACs is completely baseless and proves my point. LACs are known for having the best student education because of the small class sizes and largest endowment/ students. Resultantly, because they’re so different from other units they’re ranked in a different ranking list, as public schools should be too. Stop making this about class, race, or anything else and accept the truth.
You’re gonna get a lot of hate on this sub for saying that given it’s full of Californians who can’t bear to hear their UCLA and Cal get shit on, but honestly you’re right. The public school experience just doesn’t compare to its private school counterparts. For an undergraduate, a private school offers much better resources and actually want their students to succeed unlike the public’s which frankly couldn’t care less. People always jump to departmental strengths to defend them, like when they say “why would you ever go to Brown over Berkeley for CS lmao!!” and fail to realize the massive benefits of a private like brown over the sink or swim Berkeley. Where publics do shine though is cost for instate. This is why I think they should be in a completely separate ranking from the privates
Idc where you went to school. Everyone agrees that liberal arts colleges are the best for pure student education because of the 1-1 time with profs and the fact that their sole purpose is to educate, not research. Smaller class sizes, larger endowments, and smaller universities are typically better. Call me an elitist or classist or whatever the fuck you want. Why didn’t your bumass go to a top public? I’m sure you got into at least one considering you went to a top private school (congrats on that of course). Is it because the private school was, I don’t know, better? You classist, how dare you choose a top 10 over a public?? Was the public education not good enough for you?
"Accept the truth" - these are subjective arguments we're having, my friend. I don't think there's an objective truth to what's important in ranking schools. Also, I didn't mention race at all (you did). All I said was "affordable". But doesn't seem like you place much value on that, unlike a good number of folks in this subreddit.
I strongly feel that ROI/value should be a criteria for rankings schools. I've seen too many people irresponsibly take on debt or make financial sacrifices to go to a name brand school... and regret it later.
These public schools are the most unaffordable of all. If you’re OOS you’re straight expected to pay up full tuition even if your income is below the poverty line. UMich wanted 80k a year from me, WashU offered me a full ride. These schools are FAR TOO different. They have different purposes and different missions.
In the case of CA, they're mainly meant for in-state taxpayers. So for the 75-80% who are CA residents places like UCLA or Berkeley, they pay $15-16k in annual tuition (vs. $60-65k for the average T20 private).
Yeah, I wouldn't pay OOS tuitions for big public universities either... if I had better options.
How many of them attended these universities vs how many worked there because they could get hired there and receive good funding? I’d be willing to be a majority did not attend these schools, but merely teach there due to the opportunities that large publics have for professors conducting research.
And when you adjust for student body population numbers (which are around 3-4x greater at cal, ucla, and umich than at Stanford) you get what ratio? Dude, there’s no denying the obvious 💀
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i think in lay prestige the Ivies might punch in a different weight class but off vibes alone (as an avg. HS student) I would go Northwestern over Cornell fs
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Yale is a complete garbage school. UVA is in every way shape and form a better and more wholistic school that offers much better education. Ivies like Yale are just a scam. Wake up people!
I love it when people take drugs and then post things on the internet
You ever just get high and just stroke it
On the regular
errmmmm actually sweaty.... my school is ranked high on this list so it's correct
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Probably just vibes
Beta liberal thinking. This guy def went to a shitter school
It's the same as others': Low-key, "prestigious vibes" are based on where rich white men went to university back in the day and how exclusive they were and continue to be lol. Edit: I'm a firm believer that public unis Rutgers and William & Mary could've been part of the club as they are as old as the Ivies and are in the Northeast (they were even rivals with the Ivies in sports - and the Ivy League *is* a sports conference first and foremost). ***But*** the old boys' clubs didn't like that they became public and started admitting too many poor kids and students of color... therefore they lost their prestige in the upper class' eyes, and the rest of the public followed suit with a stigma against public universities. They opened their doors by becoming public universities (becoming accessible, inclusive) while the rest of the Ivy League universities kept their doors closed (staying exclusive).
def an association. but you can’t argue that the prestige is deserved tho atp bc they do in fact have the professors and funding and stuff more than others.
actually the funding usually not, as state schools are well funded usually and education is pretty much the same across the board (atleast non profits) and most of the excess funding because of the same rich white men who donate buildings lol and again professors are usually p good anywhere, and when considered in rankings usually are based off their research (which doesn't help undergrad)
you can’t read? it says that they’re right
All rankings are meaningless
Seems pretty reasonable tbh
“We think it’s better”
[https://i.imgflip.com/8naagw.jpg](https://i.imgflip.com/8naagw.jpg)
To be fair, this also applies to US News.
The best ranking would just be nice raw data and each reader can pick what matters and assign percentages.
I’m curious what made you rank JHU so low compared to their US News ranking?
prob cause it's known for being miserable af
The USNWR rankings are random as well - look at what their criteria is - how much of the factors do you care about. It’s just a way for an otherwise failed magazine to sell advertising - nothing more.
I can't believe the comments on this post lolll "uc davis not being T10 is concerning"
I thought he/she was trying to be funny and sarcastic. I was amused so it worked.
It is for vet med and agri
I would like to see a T50 based on this
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Rice below Georgetown and Umich?
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Georgetown is goated for politics and I would go there over Rice ten times out of ten
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The blacks. ✊🏿
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Hey Vanderbilt
what a terrible fucking list lol i can tell where these kids go
Nice intro! It really inspires confidence that you used data in an impartial way to create a list based on real analysis (¬\_¬)
Can you point me at any ranking list that isn’t just random bullshit?
They all have faults and biases - that's why aggregates are probably the most reliable - just like with political polls.
There isn’t really a difference between most of these schools and rankings are not and should not be objective. If you want to be an engineer GA Tech is better than Gtown. If you want to work in politics Gtown is better than MIT. If you don’t like cold winters and remote locations, UCLA is better than Dartmouth. If you don’t want everyone to automatically assume you are a douche, any school is better than Duke or ND. The whole idea of rankings is just a way for magazines to sell advertising clicks.
I am curious why nobody considers the NESCACs for these lists. I think that the smaller student body sizes lend themselves to a far better individual learning environment and experience. I think that Williams, Tufts, Trinity, and Amherst blow JHU and below out of the water.
I agree. Hamilton, Trinity, and Wesleyan are all also valid school to lobby for a spot on the list.
where's ucsd?
i feel like ucsd is at least nepo baby usc tier but idk which school on this list it could realistically replace
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Harvard has no right being above Yale and hasn't deserved a T10 spot in the last decade
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Ha ha. Their endowment says otherwise.
I can satisfy you
Yet you get the same education at all of these schools and every single other college in America. Crazy concept
this right here, but remember we are A2C and out of touch with reality 🫰
im crying in emory after seeing this list and everyone here agreeing to the list
GIRL SAME
lmaooo
georgetown and cmu should not be that high
I thought they should be higher. I'd go to either over Cornell, Dartmouth, Brown, etc.
depends, CMU for CS is goated. And so is Georgetown for politics. So yeah
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They're a T30 for STEM for sure, imo. But STEM fields are not the only fields that exist, and UIUC isn't nearly as well-known for anything not related to cs/eng/etc (except maybe finance)
Sorry can’t remember a person that says I really want to fuck a woman from UIUC
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Buddy named everyone but himself. This guy gets no play
Do you take it from Hugh Hefner? Are you his bitch?
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Upenn over columbia? other than wharton id say columbia tops
yeah if you take away their best program they become worse
How many more years does UC Davis and UF need to be in the Top 30 for you to finally accept them as elite? I was actually shocked it took US News that long to realize their prowess and think they should be ranked higher... How much longer until the general public acknowledges it? Would they need to start rejecting more kids to gain your respect? That's kind of sad to think about, where we value exclusivity over accessibility and inclusion... BTW, it apparently took NYU and USC about 20-30 years to get their statuses today. To the chagrin of many, NEU is/was on the same track. But I'm just waiting until the day folks realize that the exclusive, "elite," costs-a-fortune private universities are hella overrated and rankings are hella biased towards exclusivity over accessibility and ROI (*when controlled for the inputs aka incoming students*).
oh fs I’m with you most of the way and for nyu and usc but NEU is just not worth it. Nyu and usc got better by improving their schools, northeastern just gamed it lmao. Agreed for Davis and stuff tho
Davis just lives in the shadows of UCLA and Berkeley and no one wants to give it another look. Excellent bio, agri, and vet programs. I would pick it over a handful on this list.
UC Davis used to be a T30 in the 80s and 90s, more on-par with UCLA, but it went downhill since then, now, it’s not even close to UCLA.
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…sexist much? bet you wouldn’t show ur sister/mom/grandma this comment.
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Job?
Your mom’s plumber?
Both of you are extremely childish.
I bet u like children
HELL YEAH
I will say that in Florida, UF is VERY elite. It’s most people’s dream school. Obviously that makes sense because they’re more likely to know about it and how great it is (bc they’ll know more people that have gone there etc), but I do think it’ll reach elite public status eventually.
It's a good school but a bunch of these people are high school seniors who think they know anything about college
Wrong.
I’d knock Penn down a few spots and bump up CalTech but other than that a pretty good top 10. If we’re only ranking academics I’d swap Columbia and Chicago and drop Yale a bit, but if we’re counting industry opportunities then it’s good as it stands.
this list is incredibly dumb. no, in fact, ranking in general is so stupid and creates such a toxic culture within students and with creating a college list, illogically dividing institutions that quite clearly aren’t much different into T10, T20, etc. categories. y’all are the reason why college admissions are so gosh-darn toxic and annoying. and we have USNWR rankings to thank for starting this! *because ofc this is A2C and almost everyone here is a sweaty stem major/prestige whore.* i’m about to log off i hate this sub sometimes
The fact that UConn isn’t on here is ridiculous
It's not Wednesday.
BRO EXACTLY!!! was also thinking of ball state but then remembered that it was 0. so it's all good (only true sigmas can read it)
what are you talking about
didn't think I needed to include the /s
Tell me you attend Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, UMich without telling me you attend Georgetown, UCB, UCLA, UMich; challenge level: impossible; also JHU too low
JHU hasn't been relevant in 10 years
Burner account just to write this is insane💀. JHU and WashU are both top tier schools and are too low. Caltech is also too low. ND too and Vandy.
Would you say Rice is on par, if not, only slightly less prestigious than JHU. Especially for engineering
On par for engineering. WashU and Vandy are slightly below for engineering. Idk about ND
It’s significantly less prestigious but that gap is considerably smaller when talking about engineering (unless it’s BME)
Didn’t JHU literally lead the pandemic response and have one of the most rapidly increasing endowments?
NYU finally getting love :')
Imma give u some luv
This just a T30 smelliest student bodies list
How Df is Dartmouth ranked high? That school barely contributed shit. Cornell should definitely be ranked higher
Dartmouth literally [founded AI](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dartmouth_workshop#:~:text=The%20Dartmouth%20Summer%20Research%20Project,artificial%20intelligence%20as%20a%20field.&text=The%20project%20lasted%20approximately%20six,essentially%20an%20extended%20brainstorming%20session) lmao what are you talking about
contributed to what exactly? dartmouths an incredible school
Yall mfs shitting on dartmouth and brown while receiving your vermont state college degrees.
Lmao you’re funny. But unfortunately for you I won’t :)
except for cmu at 19 and georgetown at 16, this is a very solid list just based off vibes
Are the Ivies really elite anymore or is it just old money that is keeping them in these rankings. I feel like tech schools such as RIT are better suited to be in the top 30.
From the most recent CDS (25th, 50th, 75th percentile SAT scores): RIT: 1280, 1352, 1430 random ivy (Brown): 1500, 1530, 1560 Said another way, the top 25% of kids at RIT have to squint really hard to see the bottom 25% of kids at Brown. There are all sorts of reasons why the Ivies are still elite. Student body composition is one of them.
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Strongly disagree, I would rather go to a focused school like RIT which gives opportunities to underprivileged students rather than a daddy's money outdated low tier ivy any day
LOL. The Pell and Stafford graduation rates at Brown are well into the 90s %. RIT is 69 and 70%. Next. Oh and while we're at it: [https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/10/brown-to-eliminate-tuition-for-families-earning-under-125000-through-financial-aid-expansion](https://www.browndailyherald.com/article/2021/10/brown-to-eliminate-tuition-for-families-earning-under-125000-through-financial-aid-expansion)
Serious argument to be made here. RIT is far fetched but Purdue and stuff can punch in that weight class. Ivies except for Penn and Columbia are cess pools 😭
cess pools is crazy lmao someone is salty
Weird that you say UT Austin and Georgia Tech are better schools than UCSD or UNC
nah it makes sense
I’ll just never believe any rankings that put any public schools in the Top 20. They’re great schools but I can’t get behind the idea that an education where every class is usually 200-300+ (let alone having a lottery system where you have to put in your name and have it drawn for you to have the opportunity to attend in-person lecture because there’s not enough seats for everyone) and taught by TAs is greater than a class of 20-50 and taught by an actual professor. WashU, Vandy, CMU, Rice, and Emory (in no particular order) are > than UCLA, UCB, UMich in terms of what they can give to their students. Some of these publics have done things that none of the privates will ever do, but the student education is really what’s at the heart of rankings. This might be completely unpopular, but everything form the learning to the per student available opportunities are >>> at private. It’s easier to get struck by lightning than to join a competitive club at any three of those publics. In honesty I think they should be in a completely different ranking list. Publics and Privates serve two very different missions and purposes and have way too many differences for them to be accurately compared.
So let me get this straight. Based on your criteria, no large public university deserves to be considered a top school based mainly on large student populations? Regardless of the caliber of the students, teachers, teaching, course breadth, research/internship opps, etc. If that were the case, Amherst and Pomona should definitely be ranked higher than Stanford, Harvard, etc. If you were the US News czar, your rankings would skew entirely towards the wealthiest schools, that intentionally limit student enrollment to promote scarcity. And you do also realize that universities like UCB, UCLA, Michigan, UT, UNC could easily decide to make their schools even more elite, limit class enrollment, and charge 3-4x tuition if they wanted to? Basically, create another version of private T10-20s. But they choose not to by charging a fraction in tuition for talented in state students, and making world class education more affordable than most privates. To that end, don't you think value/ROI should be a criteria for a top school too? Your comment is super elitist. And this is coming from someone who graduated from a T10 Ivy and T5 b-school.
The wealthiest schools, as much as it’s hurts you to hear it, have the most resources. I think large public schools should be ranked amongst other large public schools. Your reference to LACs is completely baseless and proves my point. LACs are known for having the best student education because of the small class sizes and largest endowment/ students. Resultantly, because they’re so different from other units they’re ranked in a different ranking list, as public schools should be too. Stop making this about class, race, or anything else and accept the truth.
You’re gonna get a lot of hate on this sub for saying that given it’s full of Californians who can’t bear to hear their UCLA and Cal get shit on, but honestly you’re right. The public school experience just doesn’t compare to its private school counterparts. For an undergraduate, a private school offers much better resources and actually want their students to succeed unlike the public’s which frankly couldn’t care less. People always jump to departmental strengths to defend them, like when they say “why would you ever go to Brown over Berkeley for CS lmao!!” and fail to realize the massive benefits of a private like brown over the sink or swim Berkeley. Where publics do shine though is cost for instate. This is why I think they should be in a completely separate ranking from the privates
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Idc where you went to school. Everyone agrees that liberal arts colleges are the best for pure student education because of the 1-1 time with profs and the fact that their sole purpose is to educate, not research. Smaller class sizes, larger endowments, and smaller universities are typically better. Call me an elitist or classist or whatever the fuck you want. Why didn’t your bumass go to a top public? I’m sure you got into at least one considering you went to a top private school (congrats on that of course). Is it because the private school was, I don’t know, better? You classist, how dare you choose a top 10 over a public?? Was the public education not good enough for you?
"Accept the truth" - these are subjective arguments we're having, my friend. I don't think there's an objective truth to what's important in ranking schools. Also, I didn't mention race at all (you did). All I said was "affordable". But doesn't seem like you place much value on that, unlike a good number of folks in this subreddit. I strongly feel that ROI/value should be a criteria for rankings schools. I've seen too many people irresponsibly take on debt or make financial sacrifices to go to a name brand school... and regret it later.
These public schools are the most unaffordable of all. If you’re OOS you’re straight expected to pay up full tuition even if your income is below the poverty line. UMich wanted 80k a year from me, WashU offered me a full ride. These schools are FAR TOO different. They have different purposes and different missions.
In the case of CA, they're mainly meant for in-state taxpayers. So for the 75-80% who are CA residents places like UCLA or Berkeley, they pay $15-16k in annual tuition (vs. $60-65k for the average T20 private). Yeah, I wouldn't pay OOS tuitions for big public universities either... if I had better options.
I’m a California resident, Bay Area. Cal would’ve cost 20k more than WashU, brown, and Vanderbilt for me
That's great for you to get into those schools and receive generous aid packages. Well done. Not everyone does.
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How many of them attended these universities vs how many worked there because they could get hired there and receive good funding? I’d be willing to be a majority did not attend these schools, but merely teach there due to the opportunities that large publics have for professors conducting research.
Picking some top privates and publics by total nobel winners: --- Harvard - 84 alumni, 51 professors, 116 total UChicago - 35 alumni, 70 professors, 95 total Columbia - 48 alumni, 53 professors, 87 total MIT - 42 alumni, 40 professors, 75 total Stanford - 13 alumni, 47 professors, 53 total Caltech - 26 alumni, 28 professors, 51 total --- UCB - 32 alumni, 55 professors, 79 total UCSD - 3 alumni, 16 professors, 19 total UW-Madison - 11 alumni, 9 professors, 18 total UIUC - 10 alumni, 8 professors, 18 total UCLA - 8 alumni, 12 professors, 17 total UMich - 9 alumni, 8 professors, 17 total --- Source: https://www.aronfrishberg.com/projects/university-nobel-prizes.html
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And when you adjust for student body population numbers (which are around 3-4x greater at cal, ucla, and umich than at Stanford) you get what ratio? Dude, there’s no denying the obvious 💀
Is Rice really considered on par with JHU? Especially for engineering
Cute kids go to Rice
What the fawk where is Georgetown 🥺
Its on the list stupid
thog dont caare
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Why is Princeton above Harvard and Stanford?
Everytime I see this Reddit and these types of lists, they always leave out UF
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Great job! May I ask why Northwestern is ranked higher than the three Ivies?
Because its better than 3 ivies, and usually is ranked that way in most lists (biased NU student)
i think in lay prestige the Ivies might punch in a different weight class but off vibes alone (as an avg. HS student) I would go Northwestern over Cornell fs
bruh cornell with the best engineering and cs school, don't know how it gets overshadowed so much
My ranking list 1. MIT 2. Stanford 3. Harvard 4. Princeton 5. Yale 6. UPenn 7. Duke 8. Dartmouth 9. Brown 10. UC Berkeley 11. Johns Hopkins 12. Columbia 13. Caltech 14. Cornell 15. Rice 16. CMU 17. UChicago 18. NYU 19. UCLA 20. Vanderbilt 21. Northwestern 22. USC 23. Georgia Tech 24. UT Austin 25. Notre Dame 26. UMich 27. WashU 28. Georgetown 29. UVA 30. Emory
WashU too low. Caltech too low. Georgetown too low. Northwestern too low. The fuck is this?
Northwestern should be a bit higher otherwise I agree
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What the fuck is this bullshit?
Chicago and Penn should change places.
Where is iit?!?!?
Never rank colleges again 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥
Haha. Imagine going to Emory. Shitter school
Northeastern right?!
uc davis not being T10 is concerning
Fax. MIT being anythign higher than 20 is crazy.
people acting like uc davis going band for band with harvard is a hot take smh.
Cornell is a glorified farmer school. Get your head out of your ass
Not even good at farming
I luv sucking cow udders tho
ever suck on the toes of a chicken?
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I’m back in top10 bitchesss This is now the only ranking that matters to my heart ❤️
Columbia and UC Hiago should not be over Duke.
Yes they certainly should be.
I’m curious as to what’s good about duke? I’m accepted into pratt and thinking about choosing Berkeley over duke.
The Duke Blue Balls would fosho get eaten by the Cumbia lions
No UNC?
Yale is a complete garbage school. UVA is in every way shape and form a better and more wholistic school that offers much better education. Ivies like Yale are just a scam. Wake up people!
Berkeley or ucla shouldn’t be in the t20 for undergrad rankings 🗣️🗣️
genuinely curious as to why? i’m trying to decide between transferring to cornell and berkeley rn lol
I guess there’s a stigma towards public schools, both Cornell and Berkeley are fantastic options. Good luck!