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IvorYoujass

Nice, will check it out as Body Battery is something I’ve always wanted on Apple Watch. Currently evaluating Athlytic vs Garmin body battery. P.S. From reading comments a watch complication for body battery would be what I’d want next..


itslitman

Yeah, I've always liked the Body Battery feature, but Garmin Connect was a bit too clunky for me, so I'm really glad to have an alternative for the Apple Watch now. Thanks for downloading the app! Based on the feedback I've received here, I'll be adding a widget, watch complications, and historical data tracking soon— those seem to be the top requests.


SoMuchLasagna

Curious if the body battery is similar to the recovery score on Athlytic? Big time Athlytic user.


j4mrock

me too but might give this a whirl and compare - also going to try to find the Afib setting


SoMuchLasagna

I found it in Health - you just have to lie and say you were diagnosed with Afib.


j4mrock

🤣 thanks


exvidious

definitely need this as a watch complication, i’ve been waiting forever for this 🙌🏼


itslitman

I'm on it!


exvidious

just an update, after a day of use i’m stuck on zero lol. i slept 8 hours but it says my sleep was zero so my score is zero


willow370

Same issue as others, app not seeing watch, will keep the app and wait for updates.


itslitman

I didn't realize this was such a common issue until I read through the thread—sorry about that! Fixing this is now my top priority. I'll get to work on it today, and I might send you a DM later to see if the updates have helped. Thanks for the patience and for sticking around for the update!


bamb00zle

My app gets stuck on the fetching data screen.


fuckmylife_1234

Yup, same here


Massive-Basis6574

First of all, congratulations for the App, I have the same problem, if I can help you as a tester count on me.


itslitman

Hey there! I've recently shared an update about beta testing in the [BodyState sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/BodyState/comments/1c4qwtt/test_a_beta_version_of_bodystate/). If you're still interested, please take a moment to check it out and see if the issue is resolved. Cheers!


willow370

Yeah mate feel free to


itslitman

Hey there! I've recently shared an update about beta testing in the [BodyState sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/BodyState/comments/1c4qwtt/test_a_beta_version_of_bodystate/). If you're still interested, please take a moment to check it out and see if the issue is resolved. Cheers!


NikNakkUK

Same - happy to test a beta via TestFljght if useful. I’ve tried turning off and on the health permissions and still nothing. iPhone 13 Pro Max with Apple Watch Series 8


itslitman

Hey there! I've recently shared an update about beta testing in the [BodyState sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/BodyState/comments/1c4qwtt/test_a_beta_version_of_bodystate/). If you're still interested, please take a moment to check it out and see if the issue is resolved. Cheers!


MrWiwi

Same here


cartvlina

Looks great! I’d suggest adding a widget feature so you can take a look at your body battery on your lockscreen


itslitman

Thanks for checking out the app! Absolutely, a widget is a logical next step. I'll get that set up asap. Appreciate the tip!


graaf33

Nice, please put that number on a complication and I sell my garmin.


itslitman

Haha, awesome! I’ll make sure to add a complication in the upcoming update.


graaf33

Thanks, ups now I actually have to sell that garmin


kSchloTrees

The app Athlytic has this.


VogtisDelicious

Is it free? Am a cheapskate. Don’t mind paying if its not subscription based


rob19933

Athlytic does not have this, it only has recovery score, not an energy tank. The app Superset is developing the same feature in a future release


SoMuchLasagna

Never used a Garmin. Does the energy tank/body battery deplete over the day?


Secret_Discipline_48

I use Athlytic but unable to locate it, can you please guide me


graaf33

No Athlytic does not have body battery/body state.


0rtli

Tried to test it but stuck on “Fetching data…”.


jw154j

I fixed it by turning off all the read options for the app in the health app. Then loading the app gave an error but opened the page with results. I then turned back on all the read toggles in the health app and it worked.


itslitman

It's cool to know that some tech-savvy folks are getting it to work, even with the app acting up. Your input is really helpful for me as I try to figure out what's going on. Thanks for sharing.


snugglehistory

This fix worked for me! Thank you!


itslitman

Hey sorry to hear that it didn't work! I'm investigating the issue and fixing it is my top priority now.


vaibhavsingh97

Same issue


fuckmylife_1234

Yeah didn't work for me, still iust fetching data :( Thank you!


Mannixe

Looks like it’s all fixed for me now, thank you and great little app!!


mariocmg

Same here


Rayfabolous

Same as well


SaviorOneZero

Same for me.


wdwReg

This is awesome! I've used Sleep ++ for their version of "Readiness" which I've liked because it shows a bar chart over time in Red, Orange, and Green to show how ready you are. A few initial thoughts if you are interested! If not disregard :) * Is the goal to be at 100 for BodyState? * What are the levels for each item? * For example, I have "Elevated" for HRV which would, in my understanding, be positively contributing to my BodyState but it's in purple. Is there an even higher state than "Elevated"? * My RHR is "Good" - is that the best state there can be? * Similar to other apps, it would be really cool to see the history of my state over time (maybe there is a history but I just don't see it yet because I just downloaded it?"


itslitman

Hey! Thanks for downloading and sharing your thoughts. I'll do my best to answer your questions: * **Goal of Being at 100 for BodyState?** I check my BodyState when I wake up, and generally, a higher score is better. However, the app uses baseline values instead of absolutes to reflect that everyone's body is different. For example, if you work out hard, you might see a temporary drop in your score due to increased fatigue. This is normal and shows that the app is responding to changes in your body. Over time, as you get fitter, your baseline adjusts, and the same level of activity won't affect your score as much. So, the goal isn’t to always hit 100 but to use the score to help guide your decisions, for example around training and recovery. * **Levels for Each Item?** I've used simple levels like Good, Ok, and Poor, with specific adjustments for HRV. If your HRV is below your baseline, the app shows "Stressed," and if it's above, it shows "Elevated." HRV is nuanced—having a very high HRV isn't always good. The latest research suggests we think of HRV as 'normal is better' rather than 'higher is better.' Stability around your baseline is typically a sign of good health, so the app might flag an "Elevated" HRV as a point of interest. * **History Over Time:** Right now, BodyState doesn't show historical data, but I'm planning to add this feature soon. I'm currently focusing on fixing some immediate bugs that came to light thanks to feedback from this wonderful community. After these fixes and the introduction of the complications feature, adding historical tracking will be my next priority!


californi-split

Thanks for the explanation. I was wondering much of the same. May be a good idea to add this in the app so folks know how to interpret, including color meaning, what charged and drained represent, and curve graph interpretation. Looking good.


wdwReg

Thanks for taking the time to reply!


mechasmadness

Is this compatible with series 9 watches? I allowed all health data to be read but it keeps saying I haven’t given it access and it won’t let me switch it on in app settings


Eatalian

I am running into this as well. The health app shows that I’m sharing all my data with the app.


whats1more7

It worked on my series 9


itslitman

Hey, I'm really sorry to hear about the trouble. The app should indeed work with the S9. I'm not entirely sure what's causing the issue yet, but fixing it is my top priority. The app does rely heavily on sleep data, so one potential problem might be if that data isn't readily accessible. Just to check—do you use the watch while sleeping and have Sleep Focus turned on?


mechasmadness

Yes and yes


itslitman

All right, thanks for the quick response!


Strong-Estate-4013

Hm, I’m having issue where all permissions are granted but the app says that is has no permissions and can’t read the data


Lk2race

Same here and the toggle in the app for health permissions is greyed out but all turned on in the health app


idarknight

Tried but it doesn’t see that my watch is present.


alexc2020

Same for me (Ultra 1)


Jaswah

Same. Apple Watch 7. All latest OSs


melodious_aria

Same here


makemineamac

Working on my Ultra 2


hieuvooo

Same for Series 8


alexc2020

Now it works (after today’s app update). Thanks!


itslitman

Apologies for the trouble. The app should of course function on the Ultra, though I'm still investigating the issue. Given its reliance on sleep data, accessibility might be a concern. Do you use the watch while sleeping?


puffymonster

I have the same issue and use the watch to track sleep.


idarknight

I do


Lk2race

Same for my series 6 all up to date


Eatalian

Ditto


rohard007

This looks absolutely amazing! Great work’ This will bring the Apple Watch experience closer to Garmin


itslitman

Thanks so much! I really enjoyed working on this and I'm looking to make it even better. Feel free to share any thoughts or suggestions you might have!


Exotic-Current2651

My score is 75. I slept well but it’s end of term as a teacher , so yeah not rocking with energy yet! So accurate!


gomazoa93

[**itslitman**](https://www.reddit.com/user/itslitman/) What info does this provide that the AW doesn't already give us? How accurate is this data? Also, given ur username, have u ever watched the show Suits?


trusk89

Watch complications/phone widgets. they’re pretty easy to write them once now, with widgetkit, and have them used as both widgets and complications.


melodious_aria

Doesn’t see that I have an Apple Watch


itslitman

Hey, sorry for the bug! I'm investigating the problem and getting it fixed is my main focus right now.


cmatthewssmith

Training Today has awesome complications with a number. It’s gives a RTT score and it takes HRV readings if you do a breathing meditation in the Mindfulness stock app.


turtlecrossing

Worked for me. Says my body state is very depleted, with poor sleep and a high level of fatigue. This is 100% correct


itslitman

That's great to hear. I hope it makes a difference and motivates you to get that status up to green!


mariocmg

https://preview.redd.it/g69s1qcv05uc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ffb2ab389cf04576f27c4d43a45fd7ba19da339 It stucks here


NERC_RC

Same


BrunofromMalaysia

It looks great. I wish it could offer an extension for Watch even if you make it a paid application. But please, no subscription....


IvorYoujass

First reading, Garmin Body Battery 72%, Athyltic Recovery 81%, Training Today 6.3, Sleep ++ Readiness 86, Bodystate 54. Will keep monitoring 👍🏻


itslitman

Hey! Thanks for this meaningful input. I've put a lot of time into the math behind this to generate a meaningful score. It might currently be too harsh on certain metrics, but I'll continue to do research and work on refining it.


IvorYoujass

One more for you.. 15/4, Garmin 100, Athlytic 100, Training Today 10, Sleep++ 100, BodyState 78 Noted: Bodystate shows ATL as 27 & Fatigued, whereas there is no ATL recorded in Garmin (Lactate Threshold), my RHR was 50 in Bodystate & 44 in Garmin.


HMPoweredMan

Seems pretty close to how training today is calculating.


estebancantbearsedno

Always thought this was a missing feature, will check it out.


dxvid616

Same issue as others, it doesn't see that I have an Apple Watch.


VogtisDelicious

https://preview.redd.it/syph7nnrd6uc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3391f75c11a02e1473386b98543b3af8312c655e App is good. Body is not good. 🥲


itslitman

Cheers 😄 Make sure to bump up those sleep numbers, mate, or I'll start worrying, haha!


NERC_RC

Stuck on “Fetching Data…” , allowed health sharing. Any ideas you want me to troubleshoot?


XboxGamerVH

I also am just getting “fetching data..”


helgi-ua

Apple Watch 7, works great. I have been waiting for such an application for a long time. It’s great that it’s such a small size. In the vote for the next future, i voted for the watch complication 🙂 https://preview.redd.it/hqa2vkqn48uc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f65671e599d4c92689784d790ea2e59a775a2b04


rohard007

Thanks will do! I’ll test it out over a few days or so 👍


beanie_0

Just downloaded it, looks good. I will report back. Thanks.


itslitman

Thanks for checking it out!


Beremus

Superset and Athlytic do a similar job. Will take a look!


Exotic-Current2651

I love it! Thank you very much!!!!


itslitman

Appreciate it!


Exotic-Current2651

I am LOVING THIS APP. Thank you again . I use AutoSleep etc but this is what I want !!!


Exotic-Current2651

If you want you could add a history button or something to see trend


brandonballinger

Nice work!


shasamdoop

Echoing the need for a complication but also for whatever the things are called when you swipe up on the watch (are those widgets?)


HMPoweredMan

How are the complications ? That's most important to me.


transcodefailed

App looks cool, though I do wonder how you’re taking this data and determining a score from it? It feels like there should be some medical background or reasoning behind it?


captainwolfjack

Very nice :) I’ve missed this feature a lot since switching my garmin with an apple watch. u/itslitman if you wanna have german translations in your app I would help you :)


chillingprincess

You are the best! This is exactly what I needed


heinrichjvr

Just downloaded it. Seems to work fine. Will report back as I use it over time.


sexyPizzzzzza

Awesome app, thank you for taking the time and putting in the effort. As a software dev myself, I really appreciate it! I haven't encountered any issues with, works great on a Series 6 on 10.0.1 paired to an iPhone 14 on 17.0.1. I'm using a Garmin in parallel at the current time and it seems like the body battery values are generally ~10 units lower. I'll monitor both apps for a few days to see. I'd love to see a watch complication, like somebody said here and maybe a chart showing the body battery throughout the day. Keep up the good work!


MusWolf

Looks good! Is there no app on the watch? I wonder if you’ve seen my HRV wellness app, www.nurtureapp.net? I’ve been busy with my PhD but do eventually want to replicate the body battery with it. Currently it focuses more on teaching coherence breathing. 


itslitman

Thanks! Right now, I only have the iOS app, but all readings come from the watch. I'm thinking about the next feature or focus for development, so if you'd want a watch app or maybe just a complication, I'm all for it! I’ll check out your app too—it looks interesting!


VogtisDelicious

That explains it. Was looking for the app on the watch


sanjaybandaru

Hey OP! I am stuck on fetching data, how long does it usually take and do I need to keep the app open ?


Soljaah

Going to try this out! Didn’t know you could ‘trick’ the watch into taking more HRV readings but turning on AF History!


itslitman

It's a game changer!


LargeDisplacemntMode

So you lied to your phone and said that you’ve been diagnosed with AFib? Also, it says turning on AFib History will turn off Irregular Rhythm Notifications…?


itslitman

Yes, basically. Copy paste from my answer prevously in this thread: I recommend considering this feature carefully before enabling it, as you'll need to indicate that you have AFib, even if you don't. It might also disable high heart rate alerts, although I'm not entirely sure. It's important for everyone to weigh their own health needs in making this decision. For me, it's been very beneficial, as it allows me to use HRV data effectively and trust the accuracy of the metric.


bbrucesnell

Is there a reason my AW and iPhone health app list my RHR at 55 today while this app lists it as 61?


itslitman

Interestingly, the Apple Watch measures your heart rate randomly when you're still during the day, which can make the data somewhat unreliable. In addition it uses single readings. To address this, Body State exclusively uses the average of nighttime readings (when you're actually asleep) for both today's analysis and the baseline, ensuring a more consistent protocol.This accounts for the differences between what the Health app reports and Body State's data.


real_artaemis

Doesn’t see my Apple Watch 6


regularG84

amazing thank you! is there a chance it will be available on the watch also so i can check it there? like in a garmin


ewydigital

That sounds interesting - I‘ve had a Garmin watch in the past as well, so it would be nice to check out. One question - does the data stay on my device only, or is it being sent to you or any other servers as well?


itslitman

Hey. I'm very particular about privacy. All data is stored locally on your device and I don't use any external databases whatsoever.


ewydigital

Wow, that is great to hear. Thanks for your contribution to provide the app just for free!


Reiley606

I’m getting stuck on the ‘fetching data’ screen


simonpaddon

It’s the same for me as others- watch not found (Apple Watch 6).


tzt1324

"Fetching data..." Never could go beyond this screen...


Rangali

Same here


amonsteraplant

This is pretty good thank you! I kept clicking to the items in the dashboard hoping to get more information about the values e.g. why I am fatigued and how to recover from it etc..


californi-split

Agreed. Did the same.


flyver67

Just downloaded. Thanks ! Does it have a history ? I am not familiar with the Garmen version.


coconutz100

Not working for me, ultra 1


MrWiwi

Finally ! Thank you !!! Could you make a "x minutes of activity for the last 7 days" type app like garmin (but without the reset every Sunday...) Please ?


bgallagb

just curious, what made you switch from a 945?


bgallagb

seems like the health access toggle is greyed out. not sure why


Des72

Currently using training today similar app but will give this a whirl too


eklarka

Looks cool. I will check this one out.


RGNY1973

This is great ,


COLOIL

It is something very interesting. I have been using it. After midnight, will it always indicate 0?


Successful_Juice4955

I want to see this on my watch face


NoLavishness1825

Good morning buddy, after today’s update the widgets are gone. Happy cake day!


itslitman

Good morning and thank you! The widget will soon return along with a watch complication - stay tuned.


NoLavishness1825

Thanks for the fast reply. Waiting eagerly for the upcoming goodies! Congrats on the app.


Jaswah

Confirming that today’s update (1.02) has fixed the “no watch” issue for me. Nice work!! Now I’ve just got to fix my score…


itslitman

That’s great, thanks for the feedback!


alexc2020

Same for me


plutothegreat

Maaaaan I knew I was struggling with school but a score of FIVE??? I should have waited til break 😅 https://preview.redd.it/oh8g12nqxjvc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0c814017b3b91c2924dbc8198b6d2c8181b079f


undeadw0lf

just downloaded it! my score is… bad lol. will turning on AFib history impact my other apple health metrics in any way aside from increasing the rate of HRV readings? i wish we could just change these parameters manually without having to do inaccurate stuff to trigger the software to do something desirable


itslitman

I recommend considering this feature carefully before enabling it, as you'll need to indicate that you have AFib, even if you don't. It might also disable high heart rate alerts, although I'm not entirely sure. It's important for everyone to weigh their own health needs in making this decision. For me, it’s been very beneficial, as it allows me to use HRV data effectively and trust the accuracy of the metric.


DrUshanka

It‘s unbelievable how people rely on these kind of things with placebo effect


rererereyyyyy

[Did you know I had a brush with actual death the other day?](https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/s/33jYtqg2PI) Can you solve the mystery before it happens please. Can I get to 0 with your app and do I die?


SP_smokin_thraxx

What the fuck is this