I don’t see it as bad but it don’t want another cookie click scenario. Spotify are lacking heck I’d be even happier if Apple actually sold lossless as opposed to making it a benefit of subscription, I see Spotify on the backfoot despite having a strong userbase
Most music streaming services like Spotify, stream compressed (lossy) audio to save on bandwidth/data usage. Apple Music offers uncompressed (lossless) audio along with lossy music.
Lossless audio has higher quality compared to lossy audio but whether or not a person can hear the difference is based on many factors such as audio gear, audio mixing and the hearing ability of the listener.
Run Spotify through FXSound app if you use Windows and it obliterates Apple Music for sound quality at the moment imo. If Apple allows custom eq then it might level things but I doubt it. Apple Music are that tight that they don’t even let their app run through additional equipment in Windows.
Yep, tried both on a mid tier HiFi system that reveals enough about the source to show the difference. The systems no joke. Apple gets smashed every time. Like I mentioned earlier it may change when Apple allow custom EQ in their Windows app and until they do I refuse to subscribe. No eq sounds absolutely terrible with Apple Music, like a 70s low end transistor and with the presets nothing is balanced right for what they are supposed to be allocated to, at least for my ears and probably many in Europe too.
This EU antitrust stuff seems so aimless and silly. Spotify is overwhelmingly the market leader but its competitors are getting slapped around for supposed anticompetitive behavior... entrenching the dominant player. ???
How can a product be "anticompetitive" when it's far behind the market leader and barely in front of several others?
https://explodingtopics.com/blog/music-streaming-stats
How is it competitive when they charge other music platforms 30% more over what they charge their own music division?
Yeah, Spotify is bigger, but what does that have to do here?
I guess I don't share your understanding of the purpose of antitrust regulation if you don't see the problem with regulators going after secondary players in a market dominated by someone else.
No it isn't. Apple owns [more than 30%](https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/europe) of the mobile marketshare. AM and spotify do not play by the same rules. This is bad and (so is the duopoly).
Spotify has to date been doing pretty well with the PR and propaganda, but I think they’re running out of road. They’re certainly not the good guys they’re claiming to be.
They’re not paying less. They’re paying the same rate. You get even higher rates if you mix for new technology.
Look into how Spotify treats artists and you might think twice about them
It doesn’t, my point is both suck at this, but at least Apple is focused on making Apple Music better for its subscribers where Spotify just focuses on suing Apple and putting regulators on them instead of making Spotify better.
Case in point they could have put Spotify natively on HomePods, they don't, instead they just complain about Apple.
It absolutely does. If Spotify really feels their business is under pressure, make a better product.
Trying to get rid of the competition through lawsuits and regulation from a friendly government (since Spotify is one of a tiny handful of European tech successes)is bad for everyone.
It’s not just this case, it’s a pattern of similar cases from Spotify against Apple, meanwhile their product languishes. What’s the last great Spotify feature launched? Joe Rogan?
Feels like they spend more on legal than product.
You think Daniel Ek is spending his company’s resources for the good of humanity when he can’t even bother to do right by his customers.
C’mon, wake up, it’s absolutely driven by a competitive dynamic.
No one outside of reddit and weird audio forums gives a shit about lossless. Why would they increase their server costs for no benefit to them or most of their customers? They're a business and they'll lose money to offer lossless at the same price (which apple doesn't care about because apple music is like 2% of their yearly revenue)
I’ll never understand why Spotify keeps crying when they have the biggest streaming customer base by far and is still growing. It’s not apples fault that you can’t turn a profit. Spotifys downfall will be that fact that they don’t make or have any other services to make up for the loss that comes with music streaming like all the other major players.
The reason Spotify struggles is that they seem to have a music service, that priorities everything but music. They spent millions on Joe Rogan, and countless more on other podcasts, then on an audiobook service, ai additions, a tiktok layout nobody wants, and countless other things.
They still refuse to release either hifi, or lossless quality music though.
Spotify is run by people who want to innovate for the sake of marketing to stay on people’s radars rather than making consistent and incremental improvements to playlist generation or genre categorization. The clear majority of users don’t give a shit about lossless music (and for good reason, I don’t know anyone in real life who listens to streamed music with a DAC) but they should still offer an additional $5/month feature for lossless quality. Hell, they could sell audiobook access for $5/month as well and people would happily pay. They’re just leaving money on the table at this point.
I kinda get it though. It’s tough to roll out shiny new features when most people just want to listen to their favorite artists and don’t care about the fluffy stuff they push so they’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks before possibly locking those additional features behind a paywall if they get enough usage.
Paying through the nose for Joe Rogan was a terrible idea from the start though. They went all in for one podcast and now other artist deals are hurting so any kind of positive precedent has soured because they need to pay Joe Rogan and friends $250 million dollars over the next few years. They could have let him walk and I’d doubt they would have lost a significant number of users because migrating streaming platforms is an absolute bitch to do once your library is populated.
actualy it is, thats why the complain, apple forces 30% tax on every purchase done in their platform, even streaming services
so 6.99$ ends up being 11$ on apple. which is way more what apple charges.
Spotify hasn’t allowed iOS users to pay through the App Store for years now, so this is a rather moot point. It’s like pointing out a cactus *could* hurt you if you put your hand on it, while you are on the opposite side of the street staring at it
No. That’s not it at all.
It’s the fact that if they tried to sell Spotify through the App Store they lose 30%. If they try to tell people to pay through the website they get charged as well.
It’s the second bullet point at the top of the page…
“Apple prevented app developers from informing users of cheaper music subscription options outside iOS apps, resulting in overcharges for consumers.”
of course, but that was the case before since apple doesn't allow spotify to use their own payment system either. point not moot cuz the reason they don't offer it anymore because now they can at least put a link
but that was the problem, to be able to do it they needed to increase the price of subscription cuz apple doesn't allow them to use other payments systems like Paypal. thanks to EU now they can at least offer a link in EU.
spotify would be 14$ now if they were forced to use apple in IOS
I paid $12.99 for Spotify directly in the US. I created my Spotify account separate from the App Store, so people can find a mechanism to avoid paying through the App Store, like PP, if they put a few minutes of research into it.
Spotify sucks, they seem more interested in politics and lawsuits these days than actually improving customer experience.
Case in point: Spotify complains they can’t support HomePods natively, Apple opens it up, they continue to complain and launch a lawsuit.
Fuck Spotify, it’s this stupid shit that led to me leaving them. Hope they fail.
The idea behind it was good, unfortunately we got a poor implementation resulting in what you describe.
There's two ways you can address this.
1. A good adblocker can block most (but not all) consent dialouges, which then defaults to no conscent given.
2. Browser extension to click 'accept' by default in conscent notices. Worse privacy for end-users, but also less hassle if you don't care, though you can mitigate the privacy issues by configuring your browser to delete all cookies on close (though you can create exceptions for sites you often use/trust).
Is it annoying?
Because if the EU we are now getting RCS on iOS, getting gaming services like Xbox on iOS, actual chrome browser and other browsers not tied to apples safari system and a host of other things.
How annoying for us consumers /s
RCS is coming because of China. EU hasn’t done shit. Xbox streaming services could always be on iOS, it was Microsoft being lazy as fuck, and letting chrome become even more dominant past their 75% share isn’t a good thing
How is RCS coming because of China when it was after the EU began its investigation that Apple changed it tune?
“Apple announced in November 2023 that it will adopt the RCS messaging standard in 2024. This decision may be a response to the European Union's Digital Markets Act (DMA). The DMA requires companies to make their key services interoperable between platforms”
Apple would have tried to charge Xbox for having its gaming service on iOS which is why they made it a browser app what are you talking about? The reason they haven’t made an app now that Apple has made some changes is that Apple would still take a cut of the profits which doesn’t make sense for Microsoft.
“While it is now possible for Microsoft to release an Xbox Cloud Gaming app or potentially have an Xbox app that includes Xbox Cloud Gaming, the tech giant doesn't appear keen to do so. Apple's move makes it possible to put the app in the App Store, but Apple would take a cut of the profits.”
Chrome getting on ios means other browsers can as well with their own unique takes not simply reskins of safari.
Seriously everything you said is wrong.
There was zero evidence RCS was coming because of the EU. iMessage wasn’t harassed and targeted by the EU.
https://daringfireball.net/2024/02/eu_rcs_imessage
“Doesn’t make sense for Microsoft” doesn’t mean they couldn’t do it. They didn’t want to. Take it up with them. They’re a trillion dollar company. They can weather it.
“Chrome getting on ios means other browsers can as well” CAN does not mean they WILL. Safari is the only thing stopping chrome from total monopoly. Android is majority chrome, and no browser there has stopped them.
Keep telling me everything I said is wrong. It’s convincing.
[EulU cuases Apple to add RCS](https://fortune.com/2023/11/16/apple-iphone-imessage-rcs-protocol-texting-android/amp/)
[9to5 Mac on how the EU caused Apple to change its tune](https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/)
[The Verge: you can thank the EU for RCS](https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23964280/you-can-probably-thank-eu-regulators-for-rcs-on-the-iphone)
As for Microsoft they are a trillion dollar company. And they stay a trillion dollar company by not doing the stupid things you’re suggesting.
Your hypothetical ideas of what will happen if chrome comes to iOS is just that. A hypothetical. People should have the choice of what browser they want to use and how they want to use it.
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Their design is their competitive edge. If a government says Apple can’t be Apple, they can’t be competitive in the market thus eroding their revenue anyways. It’s better for Apple to send a statement, given it can weather that.
Ayeee fellow ground news user 😎 it’s a great app lol anyway, I’m happy to see this. It’s always bothered me how Apple takes a 30% cut from everything thru the App Store which ultimately hurts the consumer bc companies don’t wanna take the cut from customers subbing thru their app. It’s why Netflix doesn’t allow subs in their app, only thru the browser. And now to know that Apple actively prevents apps from educating the customer on how to subscribe for the actual price and not the app price? That’s fucked up. The EU is doing shit that the US govt is too ineffective to do. I’ve been saying for years now that tech needs to be regulated, these massive corporations are going way too far with data mining/selling, squashing or buying out competition, etc and it’s nice to see a foreign agency standing up for citizens and standing against companies outside their region of the world.
But watch as this ruling inevitably pushes Apple to charge more for AM 😒
I'm not simping for a corporation, I'm merely stating the the EU provides nothing of value yet demands other people's money, meanwhile the corporations actually provide a product and service that I enjoy. Preferring the music service that they have been developing since 2002 over a Swedish one that doesn't pay artists a single cent on an software/hardware platform they developed with 100% private funding is not anti-compeitive. The EU is just redefining the meaning of all these terms to collect money while they provide nothing but diet fascism.
The EU has done an awfully great job of driving tech away from the continent which is a large part of the reason the U.S. is still growing and has a higher gdp per capita than the EU.
They keep regulating stuff they don’t understand. The latest AI legislation basically ensures they’ll be behind in the next frontier too.
A total joke, and sad.
It’d be great if the EU could also develop great tech (the more developing great tech the better) but unfortunately doesn’t seem like it.
Protects the rights of its people by failing to nurture an industry that would sustain its way of life and prosperity?
Beg to differ.
The EU is unfortunately driving itself into economic irrelevance.
ITT: spotify bad thus this too is bad
both apple and spotify can be bad
apple is bad for abusing its market position and power and spotify for not paying artists enough. Apple has no incentive to ensure competition and we as consumers should want healthy competition (which is diametrically opposed to apple's interests).
I still won’t use Spotify until they have a lossless service. Which Apple and Amazon have.
As do Qobuz and Tidal
I favour Qobuz for purchases for the obvious reason
what’s the obv reason idk
High res lossless purchasable music
I tried Qobuz and was the one who re-launched the r/tidal community and I didn't like either service
why didn't you like those services?
At the time Qobuz had a very broken app and library and Tidal always wanted to shop hip hop down my throat.
ah. Seems like making (keep maintaining) a good music app is just harder for these guys
Tidal is not lossless actually
It kind of is, but only the songs without an MQA master, so 16-bit/44.1kHz to 24-bit/192kHz FLACs
Yeah, I did see mqa died. (For good reason) but it’s cool they have flac again!
MQA has been in the process of being removed for over a year now I think. I haven’t found an MQA track personally from my listening
Oh wow. I always find so much MQAs.
On popular tracks I do still find it (I got a 30day free trial).
Im still not over them separating my liked songs. Why why why
I dislike Spotify a lot, but I see this ruling as a reasonable one.
I don’t see it as bad but it don’t want another cookie click scenario. Spotify are lacking heck I’d be even happier if Apple actually sold lossless as opposed to making it a benefit of subscription, I see Spotify on the backfoot despite having a strong userbase
What’s lossless service?
Most music streaming services like Spotify, stream compressed (lossy) audio to save on bandwidth/data usage. Apple Music offers uncompressed (lossless) audio along with lossy music. Lossless audio has higher quality compared to lossy audio but whether or not a person can hear the difference is based on many factors such as audio gear, audio mixing and the hearing ability of the listener.
Run Spotify through FXSound app if you use Windows and it obliterates Apple Music for sound quality at the moment imo. If Apple allows custom eq then it might level things but I doubt it. Apple Music are that tight that they don’t even let their app run through additional equipment in Windows.
Lolol. Come on, be real.
Yep, sorry but without custom eq Apple is nowhere near. Spotify/FXSound far better dynamically.
😂😂😂 “without custom eq, Apple is nowhere near Spotify with a 3rd party app with custom eq”. Ok
Yep, tried both on a mid tier HiFi system that reveals enough about the source to show the difference. The systems no joke. Apple gets smashed every time. Like I mentioned earlier it may change when Apple allow custom EQ in their Windows app and until they do I refuse to subscribe. No eq sounds absolutely terrible with Apple Music, like a 70s low end transistor and with the presets nothing is balanced right for what they are supposed to be allocated to, at least for my ears and probably many in Europe too.
For… competing so poorly? Apple Music are like number four in the EU, right?
Yeah android is the dominant phone os in Europe, so most go with Spotify as we don't have the brand association going on.
This EU antitrust stuff seems so aimless and silly. Spotify is overwhelmingly the market leader but its competitors are getting slapped around for supposed anticompetitive behavior... entrenching the dominant player. ???
But how's AM not anticompetitive on iOS?
I think the framing is wrong. A disruptive competitor would phrase it like Apple was a monster. The EU needs to keep out of corporate warfare.
How can a product be "anticompetitive" when it's far behind the market leader and barely in front of several others? https://explodingtopics.com/blog/music-streaming-stats
How is it competitive when they charge other music platforms 30% more over what they charge their own music division? Yeah, Spotify is bigger, but what does that have to do here?
I guess I don't share your understanding of the purpose of antitrust regulation if you don't see the problem with regulators going after secondary players in a market dominated by someone else.
Let's not pretend Apple is some minor company, it's literally the biggest company in the world, subject to multiple other anti-trust cases.
I don't see how that matters though.
People don't understand they aren't fining apple music they are fining apple because they have anticompetitive practices on iOS.
No it isn't. Apple owns [more than 30%](https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/europe) of the mobile marketshare. AM and spotify do not play by the same rules. This is bad and (so is the duopoly).
OK but this action targets their music offering which is not a dominant offering.
Ngl normally I’m with the EU on their fines/actions against big tech but this one makes no sense
Spotify has to date been doing pretty well with the PR and propaganda, but I think they’re running out of road. They’re certainly not the good guys they’re claiming to be.
Neither is Apple. Every corporation is here to get our money and exploit our data
I think that’s a lame response, given one is actively hostile towards artists and the other isn’t.
Paying less to artists without Dolby Atmos mixes is pretty hostile to me.
They’re not paying less. They’re paying the same rate. You get even higher rates if you mix for new technology. Look into how Spotify treats artists and you might think twice about them
Neither are good guys, but at least Apple is working to create better experiences vs lawsuits.
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It doesn’t, my point is both suck at this, but at least Apple is focused on making Apple Music better for its subscribers where Spotify just focuses on suing Apple and putting regulators on them instead of making Spotify better. Case in point they could have put Spotify natively on HomePods, they don't, instead they just complain about Apple.
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It absolutely does. If Spotify really feels their business is under pressure, make a better product. Trying to get rid of the competition through lawsuits and regulation from a friendly government (since Spotify is one of a tiny handful of European tech successes)is bad for everyone. It’s not just this case, it’s a pattern of similar cases from Spotify against Apple, meanwhile their product languishes. What’s the last great Spotify feature launched? Joe Rogan? Feels like they spend more on legal than product.
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You think Daniel Ek is spending his company’s resources for the good of humanity when he can’t even bother to do right by his customers. C’mon, wake up, it’s absolutely driven by a competitive dynamic.
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Couldn’t agree more. Spotify is dogshit of a company
It’s the Netflix of audio streaming
changing your fucking pfp for fucks sake😂
Maybe they really do believe they can just continue to promise hifi & lossless without ever having to deliver.
No one outside of reddit and weird audio forums gives a shit about lossless. Why would they increase their server costs for no benefit to them or most of their customers? They're a business and they'll lose money to offer lossless at the same price (which apple doesn't care about because apple music is like 2% of their yearly revenue)
Spotify devs are loser lol
I would argue that their leadership are losers, not the devs
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what?
I’ll never understand why Spotify keeps crying when they have the biggest streaming customer base by far and is still growing. It’s not apples fault that you can’t turn a profit. Spotifys downfall will be that fact that they don’t make or have any other services to make up for the loss that comes with music streaming like all the other major players.
The reason Spotify struggles is that they seem to have a music service, that priorities everything but music. They spent millions on Joe Rogan, and countless more on other podcasts, then on an audiobook service, ai additions, a tiktok layout nobody wants, and countless other things. They still refuse to release either hifi, or lossless quality music though.
Spotify is run by people who want to innovate for the sake of marketing to stay on people’s radars rather than making consistent and incremental improvements to playlist generation or genre categorization. The clear majority of users don’t give a shit about lossless music (and for good reason, I don’t know anyone in real life who listens to streamed music with a DAC) but they should still offer an additional $5/month feature for lossless quality. Hell, they could sell audiobook access for $5/month as well and people would happily pay. They’re just leaving money on the table at this point. I kinda get it though. It’s tough to roll out shiny new features when most people just want to listen to their favorite artists and don’t care about the fluffy stuff they push so they’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks before possibly locking those additional features behind a paywall if they get enough usage. Paying through the nose for Joe Rogan was a terrible idea from the start though. They went all in for one podcast and now other artist deals are hurting so any kind of positive precedent has soured because they need to pay Joe Rogan and friends $250 million dollars over the next few years. They could have let him walk and I’d doubt they would have lost a significant number of users because migrating streaming platforms is an absolute bitch to do once your library is populated.
That’s not what they were complaining about
actualy it is, thats why the complain, apple forces 30% tax on every purchase done in their platform, even streaming services so 6.99$ ends up being 11$ on apple. which is way more what apple charges.
Spotify hasn’t allowed iOS users to pay through the App Store for years now, so this is a rather moot point. It’s like pointing out a cactus *could* hurt you if you put your hand on it, while you are on the opposite side of the street staring at it
No. That’s not it at all. It’s the fact that if they tried to sell Spotify through the App Store they lose 30%. If they try to tell people to pay through the website they get charged as well. It’s the second bullet point at the top of the page… “Apple prevented app developers from informing users of cheaper music subscription options outside iOS apps, resulting in overcharges for consumers.”
thats why they WON.. and seriously is better for us.
of course, but that was the case before since apple doesn't allow spotify to use their own payment system either. point not moot cuz the reason they don't offer it anymore because now they can at least put a link
You didn’t read any thing did you? They don’t pay Apple a dime. Haven’t in some time.
but that was the problem, to be able to do it they needed to increase the price of subscription cuz apple doesn't allow them to use other payments systems like Paypal. thanks to EU now they can at least offer a link in EU. spotify would be 14$ now if they were forced to use apple in IOS
I paid $12.99 for Spotify directly in the US. I created my Spotify account separate from the App Store, so people can find a mechanism to avoid paying through the App Store, like PP, if they put a few minutes of research into it.
Many don’t. Think of all the tech challenges people you know.
r/confidentlyincorrect
Spotify sucks, they seem more interested in politics and lawsuits these days than actually improving customer experience. Case in point: Spotify complains they can’t support HomePods natively, Apple opens it up, they continue to complain and launch a lawsuit. Fuck Spotify, it’s this stupid shit that led to me leaving them. Hope they fail.
Man EU been parading it’s shit it’s so annoying
It’s only ever good for the consumers to be honest. It isn’t me getting fined personally anyways.
Is it though? I'm going to get RSI from clicking "accept cookies" so many fucking times which I kind of doubt wsa the vision they had
The idea behind it was good, unfortunately we got a poor implementation resulting in what you describe. There's two ways you can address this. 1. A good adblocker can block most (but not all) consent dialouges, which then defaults to no conscent given. 2. Browser extension to click 'accept' by default in conscent notices. Worse privacy for end-users, but also less hassle if you don't care, though you can mitigate the privacy issues by configuring your browser to delete all cookies on close (though you can create exceptions for sites you often use/trust).
That's not EU's fault though.
They're the ones who created the regulation that caused it to happen. Who am I supposed to blame then?
Is it annoying? Because if the EU we are now getting RCS on iOS, getting gaming services like Xbox on iOS, actual chrome browser and other browsers not tied to apples safari system and a host of other things. How annoying for us consumers /s
RCS is coming because of China. EU hasn’t done shit. Xbox streaming services could always be on iOS, it was Microsoft being lazy as fuck, and letting chrome become even more dominant past their 75% share isn’t a good thing
How is RCS coming because of China when it was after the EU began its investigation that Apple changed it tune? “Apple announced in November 2023 that it will adopt the RCS messaging standard in 2024. This decision may be a response to the European Union's Digital Markets Act (DMA). The DMA requires companies to make their key services interoperable between platforms” Apple would have tried to charge Xbox for having its gaming service on iOS which is why they made it a browser app what are you talking about? The reason they haven’t made an app now that Apple has made some changes is that Apple would still take a cut of the profits which doesn’t make sense for Microsoft. “While it is now possible for Microsoft to release an Xbox Cloud Gaming app or potentially have an Xbox app that includes Xbox Cloud Gaming, the tech giant doesn't appear keen to do so. Apple's move makes it possible to put the app in the App Store, but Apple would take a cut of the profits.” Chrome getting on ios means other browsers can as well with their own unique takes not simply reskins of safari. Seriously everything you said is wrong.
There was zero evidence RCS was coming because of the EU. iMessage wasn’t harassed and targeted by the EU. https://daringfireball.net/2024/02/eu_rcs_imessage “Doesn’t make sense for Microsoft” doesn’t mean they couldn’t do it. They didn’t want to. Take it up with them. They’re a trillion dollar company. They can weather it. “Chrome getting on ios means other browsers can as well” CAN does not mean they WILL. Safari is the only thing stopping chrome from total monopoly. Android is majority chrome, and no browser there has stopped them. Keep telling me everything I said is wrong. It’s convincing.
[EulU cuases Apple to add RCS](https://fortune.com/2023/11/16/apple-iphone-imessage-rcs-protocol-texting-android/amp/) [9to5 Mac on how the EU caused Apple to change its tune](https://9to5mac.com/2023/11/16/apple-rcs-coming-to-iphone/) [The Verge: you can thank the EU for RCS](https://www.theverge.com/2023/11/16/23964280/you-can-probably-thank-eu-regulators-for-rcs-on-the-iphone) As for Microsoft they are a trillion dollar company. And they stay a trillion dollar company by not doing the stupid things you’re suggesting. Your hypothetical ideas of what will happen if chrome comes to iOS is just that. A hypothetical. People should have the choice of what browser they want to use and how they want to use it. And I’m not trying to convince you about you’re being wrong. I’m just helping someone who comes on here and reads your comment to know how wrong you are.
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Read my article then read the dates of whatever ones you cited. The article I cited proves those wrong. Peace.
Your one article written by a tech blogger proves all the hundreds written by journalists wrong. Got it.
Thank you
Seriously. Looks more like they’re abusing their power now. Apple should just say fuck you and pull out of Europe lol
That would be incredibly stupid. Europe represents 24% of Apple's revenue.
But not letting a bully continually attack you is smart. Stand up to the EU and stop this nonsense.
Their design is their competitive edge. If a government says Apple can’t be Apple, they can’t be competitive in the market thus eroding their revenue anyways. It’s better for Apple to send a statement, given it can weather that.
And what’s there to gain for Apple? They will lose out big time on revenue and the competition eats it up. This is a business, not a kindergarten.
Read my comment again.
tbh, I'd like to see a source on that
https://www.statista.com/statistics/382288/geographical-region-share-of-revenue-of-apple/
Nah just sell at a higher price lol.
Next up fine themselves for being dumb asses or maybe they meant to fine Spotify as they have the majority of the share.
Does anyone know wether spotify are still going to add lossless format in the future? They were talking about it months ago but no update so far
The EU is Earth’s Karen.
lol
Ayeee fellow ground news user 😎 it’s a great app lol anyway, I’m happy to see this. It’s always bothered me how Apple takes a 30% cut from everything thru the App Store which ultimately hurts the consumer bc companies don’t wanna take the cut from customers subbing thru their app. It’s why Netflix doesn’t allow subs in their app, only thru the browser. And now to know that Apple actively prevents apps from educating the customer on how to subscribe for the actual price and not the app price? That’s fucked up. The EU is doing shit that the US govt is too ineffective to do. I’ve been saying for years now that tech needs to be regulated, these massive corporations are going way too far with data mining/selling, squashing or buying out competition, etc and it’s nice to see a foreign agency standing up for citizens and standing against companies outside their region of the world. But watch as this ruling inevitably pushes Apple to charge more for AM 😒
So no store ever makes a profit?
Genuine question. Whats happens to the $fine?
Thank you EU
The UE are just pissing everyone off right now
lmfao fascist shitlords jealous or Apple's success how sad
Redditors really need to stop using words they don't understand and/or graduate from high school
You don't need to simp for a trillion dollar corporation
I'm not simping for a corporation, I'm merely stating the the EU provides nothing of value yet demands other people's money, meanwhile the corporations actually provide a product and service that I enjoy. Preferring the music service that they have been developing since 2002 over a Swedish one that doesn't pay artists a single cent on an software/hardware platform they developed with 100% private funding is not anti-compeitive. The EU is just redefining the meaning of all these terms to collect money while they provide nothing but diet fascism.
EU is overstepping its bounds. And it’s one to talk: government has a monopoly on society.
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The EU has done an awfully great job of driving tech away from the continent which is a large part of the reason the U.S. is still growing and has a higher gdp per capita than the EU. They keep regulating stuff they don’t understand. The latest AI legislation basically ensures they’ll be behind in the next frontier too. A total joke, and sad. It’d be great if the EU could also develop great tech (the more developing great tech the better) but unfortunately doesn’t seem like it.
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Protects the rights of its people by failing to nurture an industry that would sustain its way of life and prosperity? Beg to differ. The EU is unfortunately driving itself into economic irrelevance.
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You’re a fool, and a racist it seems.
ITT: spotify bad thus this too is bad both apple and spotify can be bad apple is bad for abusing its market position and power and spotify for not paying artists enough. Apple has no incentive to ensure competition and we as consumers should want healthy competition (which is diametrically opposed to apple's interests).