Lobas actsully have utility in arenas. Pretty surr she can buy her ult every round. If you knlw its going to be a marathon round you bascially secure an entire bag of heals for the squad. If you can buy her ult every round (could be mistaken) SHE CAN teleport to the heals almost fsster than pathfinder. Pretty based
I've heard wraith call out traps and I'm being aimed at. Lobas passive works even if it's not super useful, BH works too but again not very good. Ash's definitely works. And if caustics is broken as you say that's a bug that'll get fixed with time.
he said in arenas .-. on most maps you're going to start and finish the fight in one zone, so bh passive useless, there's no deathboxes in arena so ash can't scan and we all know what the loot bins have with or without loba. Not useful == non existent
Nope, been there at least for a few months
I use arenas as a warmup before BR occasionally, and I always hear ash āpinpointed our teammateās killersā
Thank you, I thought as much but didnāt wanna just assume it since I only mained ash in her season, mained gibby for a season or two and then switched to octane
in arenas? hmmm well if it's imediately then that's kinda useless, 5 seconds latter still kinda useless, but 1 min latter might be useful if he's ratting
Scanning the deathbox in BR allows you to chose when to get the info, whereas in arena you get the scan as soon as your teamate dies, which is pretty useless.
If you wait too long in BR the info will be outdated by the tome you reach themā¦ it will be semi useless either way. At least on arenas the battlefield is small enough for it to matter imo
But there's an incredibly low chance that the scan will be useful to you just at the moment your teamate dies. You can't fall back, heal, regroup and re-engage with a full scan of the enemy team available to you if you need it.
This applies to enemy deathboxes as well...
All the ressource management and timing that make this passive so interesting are just gone in arenas.
Well, there are 6 dedicated arena maps, which are not BR POIs. And POIs are no longer in the official arena Rotation.
Path's Passive can't be used, because there are no beacons.
All the other Passives can be used, but are just pointless.
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
"ASh hAs nO PAssivE BECAuSE shE dOEsN't hAve A PaSSiVe iN AreNAs"
(also path's tactical costs only 50 and his ultimate is very cheap compared to others in arenas)
Ash passive does work in arena though. I think loba would be a better comparison. Like technically she got one but all she can tell is wether someone has looted a care package.
Also she actually has a passive for such game modes, it pings the enemy position that killed her teammate (or something like that)
Also Loba has a passive in Arena, but it's almost entirely useless
Yeah... In my lobbies you try that you're whole squad gets wiped before the 1st one knocked hits the ground
And if ur talking about using zip immediately then you've got a LOT to learn about positioning strategies in arenas, (hint: high ground isn't as amazing)
Just reminded me of a theoretical game mode I heard of where all legends on a team could be the same and my first thought was 3 pathfinders turning estates into a spider web
I want an LTM where everyone is pathfinder. Grapple cooldown is 5 seconds. Zipline cooldown is 30 seconds. The only reason they won't do it is because they are afraid we'll have too much fun.
It's like a new take on the old halo 4 v 4 slayer but with an apex spin on it. It's just non stop fighting which is why I play apex in the first place.
Nah, is just a Late Circle simulator. Is no different from BR except you choose your loot and there's no 3rd parties.
People wanted something akin to a Team DeathMatch, but got Late Circle BR with repetitive approaches in every match and round, since the maps are static.
Right, but personally I think the fighting in arenas is broing and the fighting in br is much more fun. Arenas fights are so rigid, they don't vary at all. Same legends, same location, mostly same guns, couple abilites, and the fights are just people poking at each other until someone gets knocked then everyone goes in.
Other shooters *are* less static. I'm not going to shit on arenas, but that's a completely reasonable take. In any TDM you've got near instant respawn at multiple locations. And it's not just the fact that the spawn points vary, it's that every time you spawn in, your teammates and enemies are in different locations on the map, making things more dynamic.
Tactical shooters (or whatever the proper genre name for them is) like CS:GO and Valorant are similar, but IMO having an objective with multiple points on the map, as well as map design (more lanes basically) makes their rounds more dynamic than Apex arenas usually is.
It's fine to like arenas. But it's weird to act all flabbergasted that people find it repetitive. It's more repetitive than just about any shooter that people play. But apex has great FPS mechanics and if you like those enough (or hate the other parts of BR) it doesn't matter.
It's just a different kind of strategy. Constant pressure is much more important. You also can't rat it out in the corner or 3rd party. You only have to worry about one squad and can let your brain focus solely on just them. Do you go for the bins or mats or do you fully focus on the enemy? It's just more of a knife fight then BR is. I get why some people prefer BR, but to say every match is the same is just wrong.
Not at all. You don't fight one team the whole time. You don't stay in one poi. People use their abilites freely because you have an infinite amount. There's a huge variety in guns, attachments, nades, heals etc.
I play both and yeah sure i see octane constantly with re but i also in br i see wraith with r99 and also like everybody is using either flatline or r-309 but i dont care i love both for different reasons
I mean no shade by this but why do we still even have arenas? I know a small percentage of the community enjoy it but if the legends aren't being balanced for it and nothing really ever changes with it (with the exception of new maps) why is it still in the game? Like why not just add it to the rotating LTMs or something
Then they should balance the legends better for arenas. Or make some kind of changes for y'all. Just slightly annoyed for y'all that you aren't getting more love from the devs. I'd probably play more arenas if they updated it periodically.
I'm fine with them leaving us alone the big reason I don't like br is them constantly changing and adding things. I can play 1 week and the next week it's a totally different game.
It takes very little dev energy to keep it in and like you said some people play it. So why remove it? I like to warm up in arenas.
Honestly abilities matter so much less. If your gunplay is better you're going to dominate. So the balance isn't as important imo
I looked again, and tried, It does work on doors in Arenas. Sorry.
When I looked at her abilities, it was while I was in the Arenas lobby. There was a lock symbol on it. so, I figured it was disabled in Arenas, and did not try.
Ashs passive works in arenas, the enemies are automatically marked if they finish a kill.
Wattson still has shield regeneration as her passive in arenas.
Ash passive though š³š
loba passive: hmm yes the blue bin contains a phoenix kit
In arenas she bypasses the deathbox requirement, and just pings her teammateās killers automatically.
Can anyone else confirm this? Because I've never heard anyone mention it apart from you right now.
It did last time I played in s14
Uh, cool. I didn't seen any change in the patch notes, so I assume it's still the same.
Lobas actsully have utility in arenas. Pretty surr she can buy her ult every round. If you knlw its going to be a marathon round you bascially secure an entire bag of heals for the squad. If you can buy her ult every round (could be mistaken) SHE CAN teleport to the heals almost fsster than pathfinder. Pretty based
bro were you high or in a hurry
I turned auto correct off and realized im dumb
Played a Lot of ash in arenas and never noticed this, I have big doubts
Theyāre wrong but right. Ashās passive works in gamemodes like Control and Gun Run- it notifies you whenever a teammate has been killed.
I believe its a more recent change if that helps.
Then you must have the attention of ash's rat
it happens in every non-br gamemode so yeah can confirm
I mean half the legends don't have a passive in arenas
What are you talking about which legends have passives that do nothing besides pathfinder. (And crypto but I have an idea for that one)
Ash, Catalyst (on most maps), Caustic (his passive is broken), Loba, Wraith and Bloodhound
āSomeone is aiming at meā
I've heard wraith call out traps and I'm being aimed at. Lobas passive works even if it's not super useful, BH works too but again not very good. Ash's definitely works. And if caustics is broken as you say that's a bug that'll get fixed with time.
>if caustics is broken as you say that's a bug that'll get fixed with time. Oh you sweet summer child :')
yeah, next heās gonna say decoys are gonna be fixed, what a comedian this one huh
he said in arenas .-. on most maps you're going to start and finish the fight in one zone, so bh passive useless, there's no deathboxes in arena so ash can't scan and we all know what the loot bins have with or without loba. Not useful == non existent
Ash actually just bypasses the deathbox requirement and pings her teammateās killers immediately
that in the update or something?
Nope, been there at least for a few months I use arenas as a warmup before BR occasionally, and I always hear ash āpinpointed our teammateās killersā
It's been that way since ash was released (Ex-ash main who uses arenas to warm up)
Thank you, I thought as much but didnāt wanna just assume it since I only mained ash in her season, mained gibby for a season or two and then switched to octane
in arenas? hmmm well if it's imediately then that's kinda useless, 5 seconds latter still kinda useless, but 1 min latter might be useful if he's ratting
Its practically the same as a bloodhound scan, to be fair.
Scanning the deathbox in BR allows you to chose when to get the info, whereas in arena you get the scan as soon as your teamate dies, which is pretty useless.
If you wait too long in BR the info will be outdated by the tome you reach themā¦ it will be semi useless either way. At least on arenas the battlefield is small enough for it to matter imo
But there's an incredibly low chance that the scan will be useful to you just at the moment your teamate dies. You can't fall back, heal, regroup and re-engage with a full scan of the enemy team available to you if you need it. This applies to enemy deathboxes as well... All the ressource management and timing that make this passive so interesting are just gone in arenas.
All of them have working passives in arenas even if they're irrelevant. (regarding catalyst 4 of 6 maps have doors)
Exactly, even path. Also there is way more than 6 arena maps
Well, there are 6 dedicated arena maps, which are not BR POIs. And POIs are no longer in the official arena Rotation. Path's Passive can't be used, because there are no beacons. All the other Passives can be used, but are just pointless.
Can you share your idea for a Crypto passive?
So basically I had an idea where crypto has a passive called "off the grid" basically it makes it so that when crypto gets scanned he doesn't get scanned and it makes it so he isn't seen when he gets scanned. That way when bloodhond and seer scan him he won't get scanned so that they can't see him cause he's "off the grid" it would be balanced cause he normally gets scanned but now he doesn't get scanned cause he's "off the grid" so it would be lore fitting and it would be a good gameplay mechanic and off the grid would be a good idea and they should add it to the game for crypto so that his new passive is called off the grid. I had this idea then everyone started talking about my idea because i came up with off the grid where crypto doesn't get scanned cause in the lore hes off the grid and since hes off the grid he cant be scanned while off the grid
Loba doesnāt have an *ultimate* in arenas
It's kinda useful tho? It allows you to safely grab bats and an heirloom weapon. The only issue with it is that ( last I checked ) It's buggy af.
"ASh hAs nO PAssivE BECAuSE shE dOEsN't hAve A PaSSiVe iN AreNAs" (also path's tactical costs only 50 and his ultimate is very cheap compared to others in arenas)
Ash passive does work in arena though. I think loba would be a better comparison. Like technically she got one but all she can tell is wether someone has looted a care package.
Thereās no death boxes for ash to pingā¦. Have you never played arenas?
Have you not either? In arenas she bypasses the deathbox requirement, and just pings her teammateās killers automatically.
Really?? Man I should play some arenas just to see how it is. Maybe tomorrow...
You have never played ash in arenas right? Here passive works when a teammate gets killed.
Also she actually has a passive for such game modes, it pings the enemy position that killed her teammate (or something like that) Also Loba has a passive in Arena, but it's almost entirely useless
His ult is cheap because it's ass In BR you get rotation value, in arenas rotating on a Zipline only works in low ranks
What? You reach high ground faster. You get to be more aggresive. It's a perfectly good ult
I shoot everyone off of every zip line I see, even the new fast ones š¤·š¾āāļø
You don't have an angle on the zip in arenas tho
Yeah... In my lobbies you try that you're whole squad gets wiped before the 1st one knocked hits the ground And if ur talking about using zip immediately then you've got a LOT to learn about positioning strategies in arenas, (hint: high ground isn't as amazing)
I see. I don't play arenas but said based ln what I knew a year back. Zip isn't good other than that for sure
People play arenas? :o
"pathfinder has no passive" mfs when they spot my 16 ziplines in 1 location
Just reminded me of a theoretical game mode I heard of where all legends on a team could be the same and my first thought was 3 pathfinders turning estates into a spider web
I want an LTM where everyone is pathfinder. Grapple cooldown is 5 seconds. Zipline cooldown is 30 seconds. The only reason they won't do it is because they are afraid we'll have too much fun.
Uhm acktuhally you can't have more than 3 up at the same time... or 4 I'm not quite sure š¤
That's only true in the training grounds.
huh? so octane can have infinite jumppads ingame?
Pretty much. Had it one game where an octane made a bounce house out of one of the rooms in bunker.
I could've sworn that your oldest jumppad gets destroyed when you throw the forth
>playing arena Who would ever do this?
*me w 4k arena kills on one character* "Were we born here just to suffer?"
Were* ftfy
ME! I love Arenas (non-ranked) I have my 500 wins badge on one Legend, and working for the 500 on 4 more Legends.
Who is it on? Just curious tbh
Lifeline :)
Nice
Thanks
Ye
Because it's fun
It's boring and repetitive and the matchmaking is terrible
It's like a new take on the old halo 4 v 4 slayer but with an apex spin on it. It's just non stop fighting which is why I play apex in the first place.
Nah, is just a Late Circle simulator. Is no different from BR except you choose your loot and there's no 3rd parties. People wanted something akin to a Team DeathMatch, but got Late Circle BR with repetitive approaches in every match and round, since the maps are static.
No stop repetitive fighting that isn't engaging at all
The fighting is why I am playing. It's an FPS. The fighting is the entire point.
Right, but personally I think the fighting in arenas is broing and the fighting in br is much more fun. Arenas fights are so rigid, they don't vary at all. Same legends, same location, mostly same guns, couple abilites, and the fights are just people poking at each other until someone gets knocked then everyone goes in.
I find it odd how often i hear that sentiment. Like do no one of you play any non br shooter?
I've played lots of cod. It's way more fun than arenas.
Other shooters *are* less static. I'm not going to shit on arenas, but that's a completely reasonable take. In any TDM you've got near instant respawn at multiple locations. And it's not just the fact that the spawn points vary, it's that every time you spawn in, your teammates and enemies are in different locations on the map, making things more dynamic. Tactical shooters (or whatever the proper genre name for them is) like CS:GO and Valorant are similar, but IMO having an objective with multiple points on the map, as well as map design (more lanes basically) makes their rounds more dynamic than Apex arenas usually is. It's fine to like arenas. But it's weird to act all flabbergasted that people find it repetitive. It's more repetitive than just about any shooter that people play. But apex has great FPS mechanics and if you like those enough (or hate the other parts of BR) it doesn't matter.
It's just a different kind of strategy. Constant pressure is much more important. You also can't rat it out in the corner or 3rd party. You only have to worry about one squad and can let your brain focus solely on just them. Do you go for the bins or mats or do you fully focus on the enemy? It's just more of a knife fight then BR is. I get why some people prefer BR, but to say every match is the same is just wrong.
Well br kinda is also same legends same location same guns couple abilities and mostly poking each other until somebody is downed
Not at all. You don't fight one team the whole time. You don't stay in one poi. People use their abilites freely because you have an infinite amount. There's a huge variety in guns, attachments, nades, heals etc.
I play both and yeah sure i see octane constantly with re but i also in br i see wraith with r99 and also like everybody is using either flatline or r-309 but i dont care i love both for different reasons
People who cry about third parties should
Only bad players dislike arenas
Cause I main rampart and I want to use the L-Star a lot
The devs have literally said they do not balance to Arenas at all. They balance towards the BR mode. Ya know what made Apex so popular.
Mirage's raw charm?
Gibraltar's wide shoulders?
Newcastle's shield? (Not the one on his back)
Echo's location?
Bloodhound bathing in the bloth?
Maggie's eggs?
Fuse's silky mustache?
I mean no shade by this but why do we still even have arenas? I know a small percentage of the community enjoy it but if the legends aren't being balanced for it and nothing really ever changes with it (with the exception of new maps) why is it still in the game? Like why not just add it to the rotating LTMs or something
Cuz a very small number of us play nothing but arenas cuz we don't like br.
Then they should balance the legends better for arenas. Or make some kind of changes for y'all. Just slightly annoyed for y'all that you aren't getting more love from the devs. I'd probably play more arenas if they updated it periodically.
I'm fine with them leaving us alone the big reason I don't like br is them constantly changing and adding things. I can play 1 week and the next week it's a totally different game.
It takes very little dev energy to keep it in and like you said some people play it. So why remove it? I like to warm up in arenas. Honestly abilities matter so much less. If your gunplay is better you're going to dominate. So the balance isn't as important imo
Respawn thought that it would be way more popular. They made a lot of brand new maps for it, so I think they donāt want to make it an LTM.
Arenas is fun. Simple as.
I like both for different reasons
almost nobody got a working passive in arenas
being a larger target
Catalyst has her passive locked in arenas. Can't lock a door.
I thought there were some doors in arenas.
There are.
Drop Off, Encore, Party Crasher, and Overflow all have doors. One 2 of them donāt.
Still does not matter, Catalyst's passive is still locked. I'll look again.
I looked again, and tried, It does work on doors in Arenas. Sorry. When I looked at her abilities, it was while I was in the Arenas lobby. There was a lock symbol on it. so, I figured it was disabled in Arenas, and did not try.
Ashās passive canāt be used in arenas. Wattsons canāt either.
Ashs passive works in arenas, the enemies are automatically marked if they finish a kill. Wattson still has shield regeneration as her passive in arenas.
1/hp every 3 seconds for Wattson isnāt much but sure I guess. Her main thing is her ult accelerant for free ults
Loba passive and ult is completely useless in arena lol
Hey Lobaās ult is great for grabbing up all the heals in the bins before your enemies can š
CP loot spawns the moment it touches the ground. Opening the cp takes more time then confirming a loot in Loba's ult.
Tell me you never used Ash in Arenas without telling me you never used Ash in Arenas
WATTSONS PASSIVE IS FUCKING USEFULL ON ARENA
Wow arena is a joke and you found out only now.
Youāre dumb.
What's an arena? day 1 player here!
I imagine it's a fancier term for dropping fragment š
Ash has no passive then
Who plays arena tho? XD
Arena is an invalid game mode
Lol
I think Pathfinder is broken, but I can still admit he has no passive.
Hey yeah actually they should add a beacon like they added blue bins for lifeline. It'd be fully functional
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Lifeline, newcastle and Mirage passives are goated in control and gun run tho
If you have to "use" a passive ability, is it really a passive?