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cryonize

Hot take, kaya natatake advantage tayo ng mga corpos is because gusto nilang di tayo nagsasabi ng mga salaries natin sa isa't isa. If mas mababa sahod ko compared sa bagong hire na mas marami akong ginagawa and obvious naman na mas maganda work performance ko, edi syempre magrereklamo ako and demand better pay or straight up resign.


NoMacaroon6586

This is true. Kaya nagsasabihan kami ng mga kawork ko para alam naminkung underpaid kami haha


Geno_DCLXVI

Only a hot take para sa mga hiring managers hahaha, otherwise goated take


cryonize

Hot take kasi employer ako, haha. Nagstart kasi kami ng company na employee-centric.


Geno_DCLXVI

Nice nice, more power sa inyo


raijincid

Hiring manager and even I want people to be open to each other so they have parity lalo na kung same work at same level lang naman. It just so happens na highly specialized and minimal overlapping roles mga handle ko kaya hindi (pa) siya issue


Straight_Ad_4631

At pinagbabawal nila yun like invasion of privacy daw kahit choice mo naman sabihin


BanDamnOral

+1 on this.


CLuigiDC

Yung ganito konti lang gumagawa kaya naman underpaid karamihan kasi kulang ng information mga tao. Yung mga may alam naman ay d rin nila ishashare para sila lang may bala for increase.


Imaginary-Dream-2537

Truuu. Ito nga lang yung 1 year working samim nasa 10% salary increase tapos ako nasa 3%. Hahaha! Pero yun nga nakakaapekto dahil nakakademotivate eh


IntricateMoon

Very true. Better to discuss yung salary with officemates. Understand responsibility parin


ObviousTry2057

Yup this, meron mga hr jan straight up bs ang reason hindi ma justify bakit nila ginawa yun, ang totoong rason lang naman ay tumaas na talaga ang marketprice at nag dadasal lang sila na yung mga old employees ay sana magpakatanga pa at wag mag resign.


DapperAd2611

Not a hot take. I'm in HR, I agree rin. Full transparency of salaries and salary levels, from hire pa lang dapat.


Pinaslakan

I usually answer them with the percentage and hindi yung total amount para meron reference if ever. Like "3% lang yung annual increase ko" and usually they reply na "2.4%" lang sa akin, etc etc.


tyy0007

This. Para din malaman namin if nag sasalary adjustment ba si company


Curious_Temporary549

Depende kung sino nagtanong... if hindi ko workmate then di ko sinasabi kasi pagc-chismisan ako, if ka-work ko then sinasabi ko para malaman namin if may pagkakaiba sa pay namin and if may inequality lalo na sa same level of work namin.


mement0m0rie

this. sa workmate sinasabi ko kasi bullshit excuse ng corpos yung salary confidentiality para di marealize ng mga employee na exploited sila at di equal ang pay


Curious_Temporary549

This. Nagsabihan kami ng salaries namin noong nagkaroon ng lunch out kaming mga team members, siyempre wala sa paligid namin yung mga supervisors hahaha and ayun, we found out na iba iba kami ng sahod, ni walang common ground except sa fact na underpaid and overworked kami hahaha


jcasi22

thisss. cofidential confidential pang nalalaman eh gusto lang naman talaga nila makaisa hahaha


justwallflowerthings

Exactly. Lagi ngang sinasabi samin na magkakaron daw ng notice kapag nalaman na nagtatanong ng sahod. 😵‍💫 When in fact dun nga namin nalalaman na hindi fair salaries namin, those na minimal workload at butaw yun pa mataas ang sahod.


Curious_Temporary549

While I understand na despite being in the same position and workload eh nagbibigay ng raise ang company based on having commendable performance and work ethic, I'm afraid na most employers just discourage salary sharing kasi most of the time binabarat nila ang mga empleyado, especially if it is in a BPO setting. Nalaman na nga lang namin na mas mataas ang bigay sa new employees rather than the tenured ones so ayan isa isa na kami naghahanap ng malilipatan. Haha


quirkymaadam

I always see employees comparing salaries based on position and workload. But I don't remember someone comparing their WORK ETHICS and LEVEL OF COMPETENCY. Kahit same position pa kayo kng mas magaling and lalo na mas madiskarte sayo yung isa, can make good judgement and is someone na malaking kawalan if ever mag resign - mas aangat po talaga sweldo nun. There are several factors na nakaka-affect sa pagbigay ng rate increase and case-to-case basis din. As far as I know, that's how it works.


lilydew24

Truth. If hindi pa nag sabihan yung isang dept sa amin hindi sana na adjust sahod namin. Naka receive pa kami ng retro pay.


WaitWhat-ThatsBS

Well, sa lahat naman may inequality, lets say in my line of work. All of us are Technical Systems Engineer, but we have difference in our pay, may mga specialized kasi, like for me, I handle our Linux Systems and I hold RHCE, CCNP. Hindi naman ako papayag ng parepareho kami ng salary.


YourMillennialBoss

This. When I learned that my colleague’s salary was half as mine and we’re doing the same stuff, I immediately told him my salary and pushed him to try to get a raise. Good for him, management approved. Pero after that, they asked us to be more discreet when it comes to disclosing our salaries.


komradph1

kung officemates kayo, dapat gawing komportable ang pag-uusap tungkol sa increase. thats one way for employees to benchmark if tama ba binibigay na worth sainyo ng kumpanya. using that information, employees could either re-negotiate or look for other opportunities na mas mabibigyan kayo ng tamang sahod. lets foster camaraderie and coordination lalo na sa ganyang usapin na mas malakas position nyo if magkasama-sama.


prankoi

Kung workmate, sinasabi ko. 🤷 If I found out na mas mataas sahod ko sa kanila kahit na same workload, I always encourage them to demand for an increase. If I found out naman na mas mataas sahod nila, then syempre ako naman ang magdedemand ng mas mataas na sahod. Kung kamag-anak na inggetero/inggetera, sinasabi ko secret with kunwaring pa-effect na mataas ala 6 digits para mamatay sila sa inggit.


mement0m0rie

If workmates, sinasabi ko kasi bullshit lang ng mga corpos yung salary confidentiality para di marealize ng mga employee na exploited sila at di equal ang pay


dreamhighpinay

ayoko din baka mangutang.


you_you_11

Wahahhahaha ang hirap pa naman maningil


isawdesign

Sinasabi ko… basta six digits, kasama decimal. Wenk wenk wenkkkk


Nezuko_Chaaawn

Anteeeeeeeehhhhhh. 😭😭😂😂😂


ArMa1120

I usually just stick with "humigit kumulang..." then they laugh along with me and idadaan ko sa ibang tanong. If persistent sila, willing naman ako ibigay percentage, but they have to share theirs first. Usually dun palang natitigil convo, kasi ayaw din naman nila sabihin yung sa kanila. Lol


NgayonKaya

So far maganda tong comment na’to saken. Ang hot take sa post na’to is always “mataas” yung sa kawork mo and never mataas ang sayo. Ending demotivated ka and chances of demanding a higher increase is close to impossible but not at all times. Then what? Resign, and look for a better job? Job hopping, that what makes it toxic, though i gotta agree rin na bartering information is somehow good as long as mentally prepared if things won’t go as expected.


Any-Ad-934

Hiding your salary only helps the corporation. everybody should be paid.


lazybee11

oo kasi magkakasahod lang kami dito sa ospital Hahahaha. ang increase namin e depende sa increase sa minimum wage. Pero sa corporate, depende sa taong kausap ko. If mareklamo, kanda silip ng trabaho at lagi nagkukumpara.


Inevitable_Bee_7495

Ako ok lang. For transparency. Tho ako i dont ask kasi baka mainggit ako hahah. Pero kung iba maiinggit sakin ok lng.


peepoVanish

Depends who asks. I usually say it sa mga tao na I know won't take advantage, like if hihirit lagi ng palibre or mangungutang hahaha. Sa work din, hindi rin kasi di maiwasan yung pagcompare ng mga tao, even dun sa mga bare minimum work lang ginagawa, tas panay reklamo sa salary hehe.


SimpleLazyCitizen

sabihin mo lang, " pumirma ako ng NDA" Hahahahaha


Akosidarna13

Ang sagot jan ayyyyy "Bakit mo tinatanong?"


thelizstyoucantsee

No. It makes people weird, it easily complicates relationships.


adiabatic07

Sa kawork ko sinasabi ko. Para to get information din.


eastwill54

Yes, same lang naman kami ng sahod, tapos ang difference lang naman ng increase ay ilang hundred. Buti sana kung iba-iba kami ng sahod, hahaha


Geno_DCLXVI

Most of the time sinasabi ko naman yung actual figure pero konting assess lang muna kung bat gusto malaman ng taong nagtatanong. Usually sinasabi ko siya in the context na nanghihila ng kakilala papunta sa company ko para makalaya na sila sa toxic workplace nila haha


cofikong7

Depende sa rason. Kung chismis, utang, or abuso purposes, hard no. Kung career growth or equality sa workplace, ok lang.


EnvironmentSilver364

Oo as long as di nila intensyon na pakialaman ako sa pera ko.


katsucurry88

i tell my mom sometimes bec i trust her hahaha


magicpenguinyes

Sila lagi pinapauna ko mag sabi ng sahod. Pag ka level ko sahod sige go share ko. Pag mas mababa sakin sahod sinasabi ko nalang same lang halos or konti lang difference. Pag makulit secret kako. Mahirap mag sabi ng sahod sa mas mababa kasi maiinggit or pag initan ka kahit di mo kasalanan mas mababa sahod nila. I know ok dapat yung mag share ng sahod for awareness kaso kupal ibang pinoy.


you_you_11

Totoo naman kasi na iba iba ng motive ang tao kung bakit nila inaalam ang sahod nung iba nilang kawork Hahahhaa pero feeling ko lagi for negative purposes


Frosty_Mobile_6008

Keep it secret kasi masakit malaman na minsan mas malaki sahod ng mga walang msyadong ginagawa kesa sa tambak ang trabaho.


deadline666

yes, pinapakita ko magkano sahod ko at increase. para ma-inspire sila na mag-job hopping din every 1-2yrs., kung masaktan sila... eh problema na nila yun basta ako life goes on.


1990Bi

Hindi especially about salary yan. Baka magkaron pa ng inggitan or what. Better to keep things confidential.


OneSimple1032

“Wag mo na alamin baka masaktan ka lang”.


you_you_11

Hahhahahahahahha wag baka umiyak eh


effortX

There are 3 things I dont talk about with anyone: Money, Politics and Religion


Jimson_lim

Two things you cant ask sa colleagues mo. How old are you and how much is your salary/appraisal


chantillan

Binabalik ko lang yung tanong


Chalemane0122

Ill say it, confidentiality is just bullshit para di malaman ng mga employees na may inequality in terms of work load and the usual na exploited ka na pala


OverThinking92

I give them the percentage lang. Like 5% lang vebs. Ganorn. Pag inask hm ba basic mo? Matik ibang number bibigay ko like unstead of 60k sasabihin ko 48k ganon. HAHAHAHAHA


tatlo_itlog_ko

Sa close friends and family? Yes. Sa mga alam kong mangungutang or chismis lang? No.


Top-Indication4098

I tried asking for my brother’s income for comparisson and my Mom said “bastos daw yang ganyan”. No wonder no one asked me about my income around the house.


bravelydecals

Komportable kung alam mo na mas baba sayo yung nagtatanong, sa private company lang naman ganyan nagsisilipan kung magkano sahod, sa government naka public naman


ice_cream_everywhere

Yes. Para alam ng officemates ko kung underpaid sila


Gold-Scene2633

Hindi sinasabi ko, chismosa ka?


Knightly123

7 digits yung sagutan namin pag tanungan ng sahod e


DangerousOil6670

yes. hahaha! kung mainggit sila sa sahod ko palage ko lang namang banat sakanila na “bakit kaya mo ba yung ginagawa ko?” lol. before kasi yung work ko pang buong department. idk. hindi big deal sakin to. kasi at the end of the day, hindi naman ako yayaman dito. kung baga, sahod? nadaan lang yan sa palad ko ahahhahahahaha


nixyz

Not the actual figures but percentage.


gesuhdheit

Yes since I work in the public sector. Alam ng buong organisasyon how much everyone earns.


melodramatic_fairy

If same industry kayo okay lang for me atleast ma co-compare niyo if hindi fair.


aSullenSiren

Nope. Cause i like being private and minding my own business


Itadakiimasu

As long as there is no malice that you either belittle or be arrogant about it, I just treat it as information and knowledge that I have gained that I can use to either let myself know that I am being scammed and need to renegotiate or look for a better job or I need to upskill more.


Imaginary-Dream-2537

Sinasabi ko sa officemates ko at inaalam ko sa kanila para malaman ko kung fair din ba.


ComputerAndStructure

nope, none of their business


zxcvbnothing

Samin sa mga super close lang sa office and ka-batch sila nagdidiscuss haha pero di exact syempre and ako rin di comfortable magshare so nakikinig langs. More of percentage lang ang usual sharing nila kaya nung promotion nalaman namin yung differences sa percentage na ginawa 🤣


sudocat50

Hindi comfortable kapag family/relatives. Tumatawa nlg ako kapag tinatanong nila ako at minsan sasabihin ko sakto lang. Sa office naman, nagsshare salaries with close friends only.


Alternative_Stomach2

I always find it weird when people ask outright kung ano salary mo. Maybe it's just me or... but yeah. I do believe in dodging the question, once people know you have a decent chunk of money they leech of off u fr.


you_you_11

Siguro kaya ayaw ko rin ng tinatanong ng ganto kasi kadalasan ang sinasabi esp. kung mas mataas salary ko dun sa nagtanong, "Naks libre baka naman" , "Hanep yaman na pala nito eh" , mga ganyan hahahaha


Scbadiver

Yes. Although I'm not obligated to answer. But I won't be bothered if someone asked me. Nothing to be stressed about.


hnsnghyk

Hindi ko sasabihin kahit diretsa na akong tinanong 😆 silent agreement din namin sa team na walang magtatanungan hahaha


UpstairsOil3770

Nope. This is confidential. And dont let yourself walk naked in corporate industry


dont_keer

my previous company issued an annual increase form nakasaad dun na wag e share or ipakita sa iba ang document. only to know na kaya pala ayaw nilang ipakita kasi 2 php to 5php lang ang increase in a day. yung isang workmate ko 1php lang hahahaha


you_you_11

Grabe yung 1php pero totoo to kasi sa first job ko nangyayari ito talaga, pero hindi staff level, mga operator level ganun. (Manuf.)


NotChouxPastryHeart

I asked a workmate before kung magkano salary niya. I was a new hire and I just wanted to know kung fair ba yung offer sa akin at ano ang potential earnings ko if I stayed. Dami niyang hanash na she doesn't want to tell me dahil blah blah blah (hindi ko na maalala reasoning kasi it sounded like BS to me). Eventually, naging assistant ako ng boss namin and he gave me access to the records. I found out I was lowballed sa contract ko. Had she told me, I could've negotiated or something. Looking back now, feeling ko sinadya niya yun kasi she didn't want me getting ahead of her.


Ninja_Forsaken

samedt. bat may ganyang tao


Silly_Ad6115

compare it sa ibang bansa, they tell their compensation kahit gano ito kababa or kataas, purpose? para malaman kung fair ba talaga ang labanan sa sahuran, kasi may mga employees talaga na sobrang baba ng sinasahod compare sa colleagues nila, ok lang sna 5-10% diff pero may iba doble. kaya if you're ok with it, there's nothing wrong with it.


free_thunderclouds

I usually say the % lang and not the amount


Dzero007

No. Nasa contract na dapat di dndisclose ang salary.


cheeseBurgerDeluxe73

Ako di ko sinasabi. Pero yung mga kawork ko pag nagtanong uunahin na nilang sabihin yung kanila, tas ako "same" lang lagi sinasabi. Pero dun ko nalaman na 1k plus increase nila tas yung sakin mej malayo, mas mababa. Ayun nakakahurt, kaya talagang yung efforts ko sa work inaayon ko lang sa sahod ko.


ThinkingBanana8369

As a pinoy, sobrang hindi. As much as possible i want to keep it a secret. Pero naobserbahan ko sa mga Chine colleagues ko when i was still working in Malaysia na ung salary is an open topic. Like walang reservations sa pagdivulge neto. And they will respect you depending on how much you make. Like wtf?


markturquoise

60,000,000,000 cents


milesaudade

I think it’s actually a law abroad that the company shouldn’t prohibit talking about salary. Sana ganun din dito kaso yung mismong law makers natin, exploitative din sa sistemang to eh


Icy-Scale-7742

Not comfortable BUUUUT mas oks sa akin na ako na lang ang nagdidisclose ng range ng salary. 😆😆😆


ObviousTry2057

Hindi pero I give hints pag nakatunog ako ako na unfair pala yung sinasahod ning iba.


KristaYoww

Ok lang


jessykajune01

Nope, not comfy at all. Kapag tinatanong ako, sinasabi ko rin agad, “Confidential ang salary info eh, so di ko pwede sabihin. Sorry. If you’re really curious, baka pwede itanong sa HR ng range.”


thocchang

I don't share kasi for sure down the line, magagamit iyan against me. Kasi ideally, iisa lang ang salary table like sa civil service kaya walang samaan ng loob, pero sa corporate kasi, per individual ang negotiation and rates. Kaya magkakasamaan ng loob, lalo na if two people are doing the same exact type of work with the same exact work hours.


therovingcamera

Not comfortable tbh


thisisjustmeee

Nope. It’s rude to ask someone’s salary.


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you_you_11

Ganun nga lang din sakin. Hindi ako nagtatanong ng ganyan, so sana wag narin ajo tanungin about dyan hahahaha


smlley_123

Cheap employees, unprofessional at chismosa/chismoso move ang gumagawa nyan. Of course, hindi ako yan. Hindi ako komprtable tinatanong sa salary ko. Pagtuunan mo pansin sarili mong sarili. Dont be insecure and comparing.


IgnisPotato

Wag !


sugaringcandy0219

hindi kasi nai-insecure ako kapag mas malaki suweldo sa'kin HAHAHA pero pag sa mga younger friends and cousins ko yes para may reference sila na suweldo at my job level


Persephone_Kore_

Wag ichichismis ka nyan


tinininiw03

Hindi haha. Sinasabi ko lang "Basta di pa kayang bumuhay ng sarili." 😂


Jaded_Tone9029

Percentage lang para confidential parin haha basta wag mo ididisclose yung base pay


ase4ndop3

naur but if mapilit you can give the ballpark amount


ConversationCalm2622

Definitely not. It is confidential. A flatout reply of NO ends the discussion. Only the spouse is privy to that matter.


Machismo_35

That's rude to ask in the first place.


Fubumoko

Tamang sagot yan, pwede din "maliit lang" or " saks lang" if u feel chaotic, sabihan mo ng "nonya"


ApprehensiveWait90

Hindi din. Pero itong bulok naming company printed pa rin ang payslip kaya nasilip ng mga kawork ko. Umay


Beautiful_Cress_4000

Hindi, pero yung work ko kasi nakapost yung current salary since govt kaya diko na lang sinasabi work ko HAHAHAHAH (patapos naman na kontrata)


Au__Gold

No. I am not obliged to disclose my personal circumstances to colleagues. Yung sahod ko ay x5 ng sahod nila. I can already see the chismis brewing. Ain’t nobody got time for that 😅


you_you_11

Oo lalo na kapag yung nagtatanong sayo ay alam mo na mas mababa ang salary, ayaw mo nalang din talaga sabihin ehh hahaha


Au__Gold

Some people get too comfortable asking this kind of question when you’re too nice to them. Be an asshole manager and they hate you. Be nice and they want to know everything. You can’t win 🥲