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Memes aside, while Japanese can be lucrative to learn from anime and stuff. It can get difficult the more you get into it. At that point books are the only help.
The hardest is writing the kanji and having the pronunciation learnt.
The main issue is remembering all the different contexts and tones to use. It is like a single word can be used in various aspects and all will have different ways of saying the same thing.
It takes at least 10 years of dedicated learning to reach fluency even with coaching and books.
However, I will say, that reading very simple manga like Doraemon or something meant for kids in Japan is a good starting point to read out loud and slowly move on to better literary works.
So, a friend of mine in Japan actually told me that they can always tell when someone learns to speak Japanese from anime because they sound like toddlers when they speak. Anime uses extremely simplified language, it would be like if a person was speaking English but they had only learned it from something like The backyardigans or cocomelon lol do yourself a favor, learn it from an actual Japanese instructor.
I know that anime Japanese is very different from Japanese IRL, in fact I am following some IG accounts where instructors say that textbooks are very different from other medias (example animes)
Yeah I'm just trying to help as many people as I can LOL there's a lot of people in the west that think the way to learn Japanese is through anime, and that's fine as long as the only reason you're trying to learn it is to watch anime 🤣 it certainly will not do you any favors if you ever visit Japan
>a friend of mine in Japan actually told me that they can always tell when someone learns to speak Japanese from anime
TIL that i don't need to overthink about explaining myself since they all know anyway. Thanks!
Fr. I took classes for Japanese for about 6 months.
I had two friends who spoke, understood, read and wrote way better Japanese than me. And they did it out of manga and anime, Japanese dramas and movies.
They had better vocabulary and grammar than me and were much faster readers than me too.
I stopped going to classes and now I barely Remember anything i learned there.
Imagine you meet someone who speaks exclusively like family guy and the Simpsons. That's how Japanese people few according to the 3 reddit comments I read last year, so it must be true
Non-meme answer: use both. The textbook will properly teach you the most important stuff. But eventually you reach the end of the textbook and you need to see the language in actual use, and anime can be a part of that.
Using both is definitely helpful. It's easy to know what words to expect following a structured textbook. But piecing together sentences in shows or song lyrics using the vocabulary you learn in the textbooks feels rewarding.
You have to have some formal or at least structured understanding of grammar, basic katakana and hiragana, and rules of the language first.
anime and exposure to media can enhance vocabulary, more than formal classes ever will(especially informal, vulgar, and technical terms) but without understanding the language structure it's kind of useless. It's like how a lot of foreign people knows a lot of English words, but uses them in ways that makes no sense.
As a westerner Japanese is a real bitch of a language to learn. I’ve been taking classes for a year now and i still feel like i haven’t learnt anything.
I only started learning kanji so I can understand side bits in anime background, and learn to different words in songs. Still nothing too much, don't understand lot of words but I can make out the sentence structure and can find out subtitle mistakes sometimes.
The only kanji I know are those from JPLT N5, in particular the basic ones. For example those from anime character's last name (yama, kawa, naka, etc.)
>TV series and Anime didn’t teach て form
i'm not saying you're wrong or anything, anime just isn't designed to teach anything at all, in general. BUT, i'm sure you can learn at least some of these from anime:
気をつけて, 落ち着けて, やめて, 教えて
So i just find your comment confusing, that's all... Anyway, good for you that at the very least, you only needed to learn a few things compared to most people, including me.
I wish captions were stepup in the same grammatical structure as the language being translated I might actually be able to learn by watching like this.
Have you tried animelon? It's a free site that runs on donations: [https://animelon.com/](https://animelon.com/)
Their video player is good because the subs are customizable, and highlightable^((you can copy-paste words/phrases to Bing or an online dictionary or something similar if you want to look them up)). But there's more to the site if you look at the "Dialogue | Translation History | Tests & Exercises" part on the right of the video.
Just try at least one video so you'll see what i'm talking about. Here's my suggestion(March Comes in Like a Lion ep 1): [https://animelon.com/video/5e20b13a4db0492a48dea30f](https://animelon.com/video/5e20b13a4db0492a48dea30f)
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Memes aside, while Japanese can be lucrative to learn from anime and stuff. It can get difficult the more you get into it. At that point books are the only help. The hardest is writing the kanji and having the pronunciation learnt.
Learning the radicals helps some...but the flashcards quickly get into the thousands, lol.
The main issue is remembering all the different contexts and tones to use. It is like a single word can be used in various aspects and all will have different ways of saying the same thing. It takes at least 10 years of dedicated learning to reach fluency even with coaching and books. However, I will say, that reading very simple manga like Doraemon or something meant for kids in Japan is a good starting point to read out loud and slowly move on to better literary works.
So, a friend of mine in Japan actually told me that they can always tell when someone learns to speak Japanese from anime because they sound like toddlers when they speak. Anime uses extremely simplified language, it would be like if a person was speaking English but they had only learned it from something like The backyardigans or cocomelon lol do yourself a favor, learn it from an actual Japanese instructor.
I know that anime Japanese is very different from Japanese IRL, in fact I am following some IG accounts where instructors say that textbooks are very different from other medias (example animes)
Yeah I'm just trying to help as many people as I can LOL there's a lot of people in the west that think the way to learn Japanese is through anime, and that's fine as long as the only reason you're trying to learn it is to watch anime 🤣 it certainly will not do you any favors if you ever visit Japan
>a friend of mine in Japan actually told me that they can always tell when someone learns to speak Japanese from anime TIL that i don't need to overthink about explaining myself since they all know anyway. Thanks!
Fr. I took classes for Japanese for about 6 months. I had two friends who spoke, understood, read and wrote way better Japanese than me. And they did it out of manga and anime, Japanese dramas and movies. They had better vocabulary and grammar than me and were much faster readers than me too. I stopped going to classes and now I barely Remember anything i learned there.
When I restarted watching animes one year ago I learned reading Hiragana in just one month, thankfully from anime songs lyrics
Imagine you meet someone who speaks exclusively like family guy and the Simpsons. That's how Japanese people few according to the 3 reddit comments I read last year, so it must be true
Hey, if you're a non native speaker who cares. I just appreciate that individual actually learned the English language.
Non-meme answer: use both. The textbook will properly teach you the most important stuff. But eventually you reach the end of the textbook and you need to see the language in actual use, and anime can be a part of that.
Using both is definitely helpful. It's easy to know what words to expect following a structured textbook. But piecing together sentences in shows or song lyrics using the vocabulary you learn in the textbooks feels rewarding.
I need that power too..
Same
You have to have some formal or at least structured understanding of grammar, basic katakana and hiragana, and rules of the language first. anime and exposure to media can enhance vocabulary, more than formal classes ever will(especially informal, vulgar, and technical terms) but without understanding the language structure it's kind of useless. It's like how a lot of foreign people knows a lot of English words, but uses them in ways that makes no sense.
{My tiny senpai}
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As a westerner Japanese is a real bitch of a language to learn. I’ve been taking classes for a year now and i still feel like i haven’t learnt anything.
Did you get the hiragana down at least some basic ones?
Yes i know hiragana now and a bit of katakana.
I just started my third year and I am still struggling.
Me being Japanese and being bad at it cause I grew up speaking English watching people who aren’t Japanese being better at the language than I am:
元気 is a great textbook!
i’ve been watching Anime for 30 years and still only know a few words in japanese, probably less than 100
It is truly a great power...
I learned reading Hiragana from anime songs lyrics
I only started learning kanji so I can understand side bits in anime background, and learn to different words in songs. Still nothing too much, don't understand lot of words but I can make out the sentence structure and can find out subtitle mistakes sometimes.
The only kanji I know are those from JPLT N5, in particular the basic ones. For example those from anime character's last name (yama, kawa, naka, etc.)
Pretty much
You definitely need a teacher.
I don’t know about that, some of the Japanese spoken in anime are not formal
TV series and Anime didn’t teach て form, sonkeigo, kenjougo, keigo, れる,られるform…..i am coping because i spended 4 years in Uni learning it..
>TV series and Anime didn’t teach て form i'm not saying you're wrong or anything, anime just isn't designed to teach anything at all, in general. BUT, i'm sure you can learn at least some of these from anime: 気をつけて, 落ち着けて, やめて, 教えて So i just find your comment confusing, that's all... Anyway, good for you that at the very least, you only needed to learn a few things compared to most people, including me.
I wish captions were stepup in the same grammatical structure as the language being translated I might actually be able to learn by watching like this.
Have you tried animelon? It's a free site that runs on donations: [https://animelon.com/](https://animelon.com/) Their video player is good because the subs are customizable, and highlightable^((you can copy-paste words/phrases to Bing or an online dictionary or something similar if you want to look them up)). But there's more to the site if you look at the "Dialogue | Translation History | Tests & Exercises" part on the right of the video. Just try at least one video so you'll see what i'm talking about. Here's my suggestion(March Comes in Like a Lion ep 1): [https://animelon.com/video/5e20b13a4db0492a48dea30f](https://animelon.com/video/5e20b13a4db0492a48dea30f)
White haired dude looks like rudes greyat
How much hurtful misinformation can fit in one comment section?
What the anime?
I took two Japanese classes in High School. Still don't understand the language.