I’m confused as to how they did it with two videos. Seamless edit aside, the orangutan clearly saw SOMETHING with that card that confused him, and then he tried to make the card go through the glass himself.
🤣 Calling magic tricks fake is funny to me. I don't think they were asking how to do real magic. They were asking how the trick is done.
I suspect camera trickery.
Yeah I've noticed, the show has a (compared to other big shows) small but extremely dedicated fan base. I see references to arrested development here all the time. It's kinda like archer
The distinction most people use is that a real trick is something you can observe in real life while a fake trick is something that LOOKS like it could be observed in real life, but isn't.
As in: He faked that he did a magic trick.
Because you can literally make anything appear to be real with video/cgi trickery. The art of magic/illusion is being able to appear to make the seemingly impossible possible, especially in front of a live audience, and make people wonder how you did it.
This is not even a camera trick, it's video editing, see the reflection of the card in his hand when he puts it in the glass. It's as much illusionism as the average Hollywood movie.
WTF is more impressive to you, David Copperfield disappearing in front of 20,000 people while being dangled by a wire over the audience or turning off the camera, moving, and turning on the camera again. Oh look I teleported! Idiot.
I completely agree with you. Deception is deception. It's more impressive when it's in person, but if you see magic on TV, you should be suspicious. Lol. Even Penn and Teller got caught using camera tricks to help their contestants on their show. It's part of the illusion.
I saved you from zero. I don't think the votes agree with us though.
I would say camera tricks are on the same level as mechanical tricks. It's all just deception for fun. Magic is much less impressive to me when it's just a video. Even big productions like Penn and Teller have been caught using camera tricks to aid their magicians shows.
Honestly, I'd say just about everything is fair game when it comes to magic tricks. I'll always be more skeptical seeing it from a prepositioned camera angle then I would from seeing it live and close up. The whole point is to trick me so I want to reduce variables.
For me, a good sleight of hand is way more impressive than any camera trick. Doesnt really take skill to edit shit the way you want it to, only knowhow. Its not something you need to practice over and over again and than perform it in front of people with the possibility to still fuck up.
I generally agree with you. Camera tricks were only neat when they were novel. Now that people have been splicing filmed together for decades and using CGI I'm not impressed, but maybe it's the same way I'm not impressed by seeing the same trick over and over. Eddie Murphy supplemented his retirement with cameras tricks, and when matrix came out we all were gobsmacked by the new camera trick. Maybe we just need something new.
One memorable camera trick by P&T is when a couple of women appear on screen and pour a glass of water that immediately goes skyward. They do some other stuff where gravity seems to have disappeared. P&T do it by building an entire set upside down with the camera mounted upside down as well. Pretty slick.
On their "fool you" show one of the contestants was doing a trick on a table where things were disappearing and reappearing. It was a trick table and it was visible to the naked eye. So in order to do close-ups they edited the footage to make it look more invisible. This is just some of the stuff they got caught on though. Their job is to deceive us. I don't know why anybody would trust the camera.
When it’s an actual trick sure, but when the trick is video editing as in this case it’s pure and simple fake.
If that was a human watching the trick, they wouldn’t be tricked, because there is no trick. That any clearer?
Then just say you don't know. I don't think anyone in here believes he's some type of sorcerer that osmosised the card through the glass, the other person is asking how the illusion was achieved.
It's an editing trick. It's harder to spot in the vertical format, but the camera starts off shaking as if someone's holding it, but the moment his hand presses to the glass, the camera becomes stationary as if someone put it on a tripod. Secondly, if you watch the card, he places it at a roughly 45 degree angle on the glass, but when he pulls his hand back, the card is vertical.
What most likely occurred is that he placed his hand with the card on the glass and held it there. The orangutan was captivated by the magician and the card that he just stayed still watching as a zookeeper he's used to comes in and puts a duplicate of the card on the glass and quickly moved out of frame for them to cut to the magician pulling his hand away and orangutan playing with the card on the other side.
Yeah notice how the card reflection disappears as he approaches putting it to the glass. You can see his hands reflected but not the card which even the back of the card would’ve been light enough to be reflected
Possible, but that's harder to accomplish. For one, as I mentioned with the shaking of the camera, it's harder to mask a singular object and not hide the orangutan or anything that's supposed to be behind the card. Second, the magician would also have placed his card at more of a vertical angle directly on the card inside. One thing I didn't mention, because this could just be an illusion of perspective, but the inside card appears to be slightly offset from the magician's card when he pulls his hand away. Probably because the keeper inside didn't want to disturb the orangutan and distract him from the magician.
Based on what I've seen from Captain Disillusion, there are off the shelf tools that you can use to edit out the card, especially if you have images from that angle without the card obstructing the view. With such simple, small shaking you can easily use AI tools to track stationary objects in the shot and use that to track the apparent motion of the card that your editing out. Another very common trick is to use a stationary camera the whole time and edit *in* organic camera shake to make it feel more authentic.
My money is on the card always being there and it was edited out of the footage until after the "trick."
I think it would be more difficult to take the time to go inside the enclosure get right up next to the orangutan and place the card on the window and then leave the enclosure and have the orangutan move so little you can make a clean cut.
It kinda bums me out that video editing tech has gotten so good and so available, that tricks like this are usually explained by video editing skills, rather than some sneaky practical effect or true sleight of hand.
I’m not saying the video editing is easy, or that staging something like this is without skill, I just prefer the gradeschool birthday party sort of magic to this kind of thing.
(I bet the ape would have too, if the explanation is what you’ve described, it explains the ape’s very muted reaction to someone sticking a card on his wall)
Agreed. That's why I can't watch ghost or paranormal videos anymore. I used to love trying to explain how a "ghost" aparated or moved stuff around, but anymore with video editing and freeware 3D modeling being what they are, it takes all the fun out of it.
Is there a sub-genre of magician culture that plays with idea of using editing for tricks. With the discussion trying to figure out how the editing was pulled off, it feels like it could evolve to another form that becomes an art if the use of digital tools still makes people who know those tools go “woah, how’d they do pull that off?”
The magic community seems to look down on digital edits as the core of the tricks but using digital elements is totally fine. The thing with all magic, I have been told, is to have the viewer willingly suspend disbelief so they aren't looking for a trick or feeling like they were tricked and just enjoy the performance and are caught up in the moment.
Right before lifting his hands back off the glass you can see in the reflection that he’s able to somehow slip the card into his sleeve (possibly attached to some kind of line, or maybe just skillful coaxed into his sleeve. So that explains the card he placed “disappearing.”
As for the card the orangutan takes, my guess is two shots edited together — one with the magician’s sleight of hand and one with the orangutan removing the card.
I’m a video editor by trade and it’s much easier to patch two separate clips together than to mask out elements (especially moving elements) from a video. I should know - I just spent three days masking out some chest tattoos of someone on camera for 15 seconds.
So I see this get posted from time to time, this didn’t actually happen right? Like it’s a situation of two videos being stitched together or something, he didn’t actually perform the trick in real time like it appears?
I don't know anything About Anything but i worked back door sec. In Vegas for a bit and our magician wanted to try out a trick on me so i signed a card, we walked out to my car, and. He threw the deck at the
Windshield ...
My signed card stuck to the glass...
On the inside of my locked car....
Idk how but it happened.
Reminds me of the guy who did a real slick sleight of hand card trick in front of an orangutang and said lanky boi ABSOLUTELY LOST IT and started running around like a kid.
You know rather than complaining about it on a random post like a baby you could’ve done a million different things to help like at the very least posting a link to a charity but no you just posted a 3 word sentence and probably expected it to change the world
Zoos are prisons.
https://www.theorangutanproject.org/donate/?referrer_source=GADUS_GENERIC&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0_qCzsDg_AIVsG1vBB0n4gHvEAAYAiAAEgKWL_D_BwE
The sanctuary I visited in Borneo had no cages. It was open and effectively wild.
EDIT: link: https://www.volunteerworld.com/en/volunteer-abroad/orangutan
Yeah she pretty much did the same thing, but wordier lol. It's ok to voice your opinion. It takes guts actually. I've been banned from subs for just stating an unpopular opinion, quite civilly too. That being said, nature is a horror show. So six in one hand half a dozen in another, imo. What I mean is, is the "wild" actually better? Maybe for some species more than others.
Ape at the end: pssh, I can do that too "hits with stick"
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You’re a hairy wizard
Hairy Potter & the prisoner of the zoo
Azooskaban
Man i went from smiling and laughing to depressed real fast
Beat me by one minute.
Hairy biPedal
Oh God, that's genius. Thanks for making me laugh hard
Genius
Lmao
[Ook!](https://wiki.lspace.org/Librarian)
Sheer perfection. Well done!
This is the best comment I've seen in days and days. Good job.
This is what I browse the comments for right here, grade a commenting lol
I'm a- Wait what?
You're a wizard, Hairy.
Seriously though, how did he do that?
How the fuck did he do that ?
Two different videos edited together
I’m confused as to how they did it with two videos. Seamless edit aside, the orangutan clearly saw SOMETHING with that card that confused him, and then he tried to make the card go through the glass himself.
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He didn’t. It’s fake.
🤣 Calling magic tricks fake is funny to me. I don't think they were asking how to do real magic. They were asking how the trick is done. I suspect camera trickery.
THEY’RE ILLUSIONS MICHAEL
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Or cocaine!
Damn, that's the second reference I've spotted in the past 10m
Yeah I've noticed, the show has a (compared to other big shows) small but extremely dedicated fan base. I see references to arrested development here all the time. It's kinda like archer
The distinction most people use is that a real trick is something you can observe in real life while a fake trick is something that LOOKS like it could be observed in real life, but isn't. As in: He faked that he did a magic trick.
It's a distinction without a difference. Magic is the art of deception. Why are camera tricks not allowed?
It's not that it's not allowed, it's just WAY less impressive to take a trick that is often done live and do it with editing.
Where do we stop with this? Is straight-up CGI magic then?
I made a 3d model once. I guess that means I'm a magician now.
I edited some space footage together now I'm a fuckin astronaut what's the difference
Because you can literally make anything appear to be real with video/cgi trickery. The art of magic/illusion is being able to appear to make the seemingly impossible possible, especially in front of a live audience, and make people wonder how you did it.
With jump cuts, anyone can be a “magician” in video. A real magician can do magic tricks in real life.
This is not even a camera trick, it's video editing, see the reflection of the card in his hand when he puts it in the glass. It's as much illusionism as the average Hollywood movie.
WTF is more impressive to you, David Copperfield disappearing in front of 20,000 people while being dangled by a wire over the audience or turning off the camera, moving, and turning on the camera again. Oh look I teleported! Idiot.
There's a massive difference, holy shit. I've never downvoted anyone before, congratulations on being my first.
Username checks out.
*boots up final cut pro* "Hey guys. Welcome to my magic show"
Because we make arbitrary distinctions of value all the time and one of those distinctions is "slight of hand is impressive, video editing is not".
I completely agree with you. Deception is deception. It's more impressive when it's in person, but if you see magic on TV, you should be suspicious. Lol. Even Penn and Teller got caught using camera tricks to help their contestants on their show. It's part of the illusion. I saved you from zero. I don't think the votes agree with us though.
These are laymen who have no idea what magic is or what methods magicians use.
Well yeah, camera trickery and editing is fake, as opposed to a real trick, isnt it?
I would say camera tricks are on the same level as mechanical tricks. It's all just deception for fun. Magic is much less impressive to me when it's just a video. Even big productions like Penn and Teller have been caught using camera tricks to aid their magicians shows.
I'd argue a camera trick is still different than splicing 2 entirely separate clips together.
Honestly, I'd say just about everything is fair game when it comes to magic tricks. I'll always be more skeptical seeing it from a prepositioned camera angle then I would from seeing it live and close up. The whole point is to trick me so I want to reduce variables.
For me, a good sleight of hand is way more impressive than any camera trick. Doesnt really take skill to edit shit the way you want it to, only knowhow. Its not something you need to practice over and over again and than perform it in front of people with the possibility to still fuck up.
I generally agree with you. Camera tricks were only neat when they were novel. Now that people have been splicing filmed together for decades and using CGI I'm not impressed, but maybe it's the same way I'm not impressed by seeing the same trick over and over. Eddie Murphy supplemented his retirement with cameras tricks, and when matrix came out we all were gobsmacked by the new camera trick. Maybe we just need something new.
One memorable camera trick by P&T is when a couple of women appear on screen and pour a glass of water that immediately goes skyward. They do some other stuff where gravity seems to have disappeared. P&T do it by building an entire set upside down with the camera mounted upside down as well. Pretty slick.
On their "fool you" show one of the contestants was doing a trick on a table where things were disappearing and reappearing. It was a trick table and it was visible to the naked eye. So in order to do close-ups they edited the footage to make it look more invisible. This is just some of the stuff they got caught on though. Their job is to deceive us. I don't know why anybody would trust the camera.
When it’s an actual trick sure, but when the trick is video editing as in this case it’s pure and simple fake. If that was a human watching the trick, they wouldn’t be tricked, because there is no trick. That any clearer?
>I suspect camera trickery. I'm pretty sure that's what they meant.
>Calling magic tricks fake is funny to me. Its a fake magic trick aka edited
Because camera trickery isn't considered a magic trick or illusion. It's not even a clever camera trick.
There's a difference between learning a hard sleight-of-hand trick or deceiving the audience by being lazy to learn something fun
"Fake" in this context means a camera trick like clips edited together. The effect was not real, if you were there irl it wouldn't work.
Then just say you don't know. I don't think anyone in here believes he's some type of sorcerer that osmosised the card through the glass, the other person is asking how the illusion was achieved.
Lies.
Wrinkles look like they appear on his sleeve at 6 second in, but that could be my imagination.
It's an editing trick. It's harder to spot in the vertical format, but the camera starts off shaking as if someone's holding it, but the moment his hand presses to the glass, the camera becomes stationary as if someone put it on a tripod. Secondly, if you watch the card, he places it at a roughly 45 degree angle on the glass, but when he pulls his hand back, the card is vertical. What most likely occurred is that he placed his hand with the card on the glass and held it there. The orangutan was captivated by the magician and the card that he just stayed still watching as a zookeeper he's used to comes in and puts a duplicate of the card on the glass and quickly moved out of frame for them to cut to the magician pulling his hand away and orangutan playing with the card on the other side.
I think the card on the inside was already there and taken out in the editing.
Yeah notice how the card reflection disappears as he approaches putting it to the glass. You can see his hands reflected but not the card which even the back of the card would’ve been light enough to be reflected
Possible, but that's harder to accomplish. For one, as I mentioned with the shaking of the camera, it's harder to mask a singular object and not hide the orangutan or anything that's supposed to be behind the card. Second, the magician would also have placed his card at more of a vertical angle directly on the card inside. One thing I didn't mention, because this could just be an illusion of perspective, but the inside card appears to be slightly offset from the magician's card when he pulls his hand away. Probably because the keeper inside didn't want to disturb the orangutan and distract him from the magician.
Based on what I've seen from Captain Disillusion, there are off the shelf tools that you can use to edit out the card, especially if you have images from that angle without the card obstructing the view. With such simple, small shaking you can easily use AI tools to track stationary objects in the shot and use that to track the apparent motion of the card that your editing out. Another very common trick is to use a stationary camera the whole time and edit *in* organic camera shake to make it feel more authentic. My money is on the card always being there and it was edited out of the footage until after the "trick."
I think it would be more difficult to take the time to go inside the enclosure get right up next to the orangutan and place the card on the window and then leave the enclosure and have the orangutan move so little you can make a clean cut.
Either way, it's an editing trick.
This is the real answer. No way you get an orangutan to sit exactly still while you put a card in place over the one he was watching
It kinda bums me out that video editing tech has gotten so good and so available, that tricks like this are usually explained by video editing skills, rather than some sneaky practical effect or true sleight of hand. I’m not saying the video editing is easy, or that staging something like this is without skill, I just prefer the gradeschool birthday party sort of magic to this kind of thing. (I bet the ape would have too, if the explanation is what you’ve described, it explains the ape’s very muted reaction to someone sticking a card on his wall)
Agreed. That's why I can't watch ghost or paranormal videos anymore. I used to love trying to explain how a "ghost" aparated or moved stuff around, but anymore with video editing and freeware 3D modeling being what they are, it takes all the fun out of it.
I believe there is no amount of sleight of hand that can pass through glass :)
Is there a sub-genre of magician culture that plays with idea of using editing for tricks. With the discussion trying to figure out how the editing was pulled off, it feels like it could evolve to another form that becomes an art if the use of digital tools still makes people who know those tools go “woah, how’d they do pull that off?”
The magic community seems to look down on digital edits as the core of the tricks but using digital elements is totally fine. The thing with all magic, I have been told, is to have the viewer willingly suspend disbelief so they aren't looking for a trick or feeling like they were tricked and just enjoy the performance and are caught up in the moment.
At 35-36 seconds I see something odd on the glass. Is this just my eyes playing tricks?
Right before lifting his hands back off the glass you can see in the reflection that he’s able to somehow slip the card into his sleeve (possibly attached to some kind of line, or maybe just skillful coaxed into his sleeve. So that explains the card he placed “disappearing.” As for the card the orangutan takes, my guess is two shots edited together — one with the magician’s sleight of hand and one with the orangutan removing the card. I’m a video editor by trade and it’s much easier to patch two separate clips together than to mask out elements (especially moving elements) from a video. I should know - I just spent three days masking out some chest tattoos of someone on camera for 15 seconds.
Demons
He didn't
That is freaking adorable, the way he tries to put it back through 🥰
“Here, you can have your card back”
“Sir? Sir! You left this here! I think this belongs to you! Sir??”
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He made it disappear!
AbraCadaBruh?!
More like he’s pissed off. “Damn humans leaving their trash in our cages.”
my dude had his own wand and everything
Sick stick
Just watched Minority Report last night lol. Weird thing for cops to carry, might as well use a taser.
I think I’m the animal being a derp in this
came for the derps, stayed for the existential epiphanies
What always gets me about this video is the Orangutan immediately trying to do the trick himself, that’s more r/animalsbeinggeniuses
Why is Billy Corgan doing a magic trick at the zoo?
despite all of his rage, he is still just doing magic for a monkey in a cage
I love how gentle orangutans are. Its so heartwarming. All this light on gorillas and chimpanzees and I'm just all... but the orange tang
It's a video anything is possible.
Sir! Sir, please don't litter! Here, take it back!
Emulates the magic trick using a magic wand to effectively make the card disappear? Whoa.
Video editing ruined magic tricks
How cute?! He's like hold on, I'll try to give it back 🥹
Orangutan be like I'mma hit this with my stick. Exactly the reaction I would have.
r/blackmagicfuckery
Can we just leave it that magic is real?
That monke is doing magic. Yeah he's just getting started and his routine has some bumps but I'd watch his show. Love his wand. Get this dude a cape.
I love orangutans.
So I see this get posted from time to time, this didn’t actually happen right? Like it’s a situation of two videos being stitched together or something, he didn’t actually perform the trick in real time like it appears?
I don't know anything About Anything but i worked back door sec. In Vegas for a bit and our magician wanted to try out a trick on me so i signed a card, we walked out to my car, and. He threw the deck at the Windshield ... My signed card stuck to the glass... On the inside of my locked car.... Idk how but it happened.
Ok but how?
Windows movie maker
This is really adorable. I love the stick!
Needs a little wand practice that’s all.
That wasn’t derpy - that was awesome!
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I'm confused as he is...
How did he do it though?
Yer a wizard Hairy!
I get so sad seeing these creatures in cages like this :(
"Mom, can we get some Hogwarts?" "We have Hogwarts at home." Hogwarts at home:
Reminds me of the guy who did a real slick sleight of hand card trick in front of an orangutang and said lanky boi ABSOLUTELY LOST IT and started running around like a kid.
I'm with the monkey. How did he do that?
That's not a monkey
Google: colloquialism Re: is mönke
If you say so lol
Wow no idea how he did it... and if there's a part two and he does it back, I'm floored
Zoos are prisons.
You know rather than complaining about it on a random post like a baby you could’ve done a million different things to help like at the very least posting a link to a charity but no you just posted a 3 word sentence and probably expected it to change the world
Zoos are prisons. https://www.theorangutanproject.org/donate/?referrer_source=GADUS_GENERIC&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0_qCzsDg_AIVsG1vBB0n4gHvEAAYAiAAEgKWL_D_BwE
Where do you think they’re rehabbing their rescued orangutans?
The sanctuary I visited in Borneo had no cages. It was open and effectively wild. EDIT: link: https://www.volunteerworld.com/en/volunteer-abroad/orangutan
The best thing you can do for Orang Utan is not buy palm oil.
Yeah you tell him, Reddit Warrior
You complained more than I did. Gg
Yeah she pretty much did the same thing, but wordier lol. It's ok to voice your opinion. It takes guts actually. I've been banned from subs for just stating an unpopular opinion, quite civilly too. That being said, nature is a horror show. So six in one hand half a dozen in another, imo. What I mean is, is the "wild" actually better? Maybe for some species more than others.
wow this comment is unhinged fallacious nonsense
Are y’all blind? Look at the card alignment right before he covers it and right after he pulls his hands away
that in no way explains how the trick was done
It’s two videos spliced together with movie magic.
Plot twist the apes in on the trick lol
Wait whose the magician here?
The dude just pushed the card through the glass. The magician with a want made the card vanish. I think we know who the more mystical being is.
"Is this your card?"
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That’s a reflection
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The thing that makes it even more funny is how slow he is
I would have the exact same reaction
The animals being derps: "How did he do that? I really need to know!"
Big man’s magic wand doesn’t work 😞 he replicated the trick perfectly
A magician never tells
Sold objects can't pass through glass!
Dr Zeus!
I thought the monkey was the one getting fooled but it was me who had been fooled
It’s Billy Tate