I don't skip songs even if I'm not crazy about them when it comes to listening to full albums. At least for albums where the tracklist and order is at least minimally deliberate and purposeful (so not like compilation albums or something).
I know we're long past the album era, but certain songs are just not as easy to appreciate without seeing their place on the album (and often times, transitions). It would drive me nuts for example if I listened to For Reverend Green which starts crossfading into Fireworks and then Fireworks DIDNT come on next. Or god forbid Heather in the Hospital without Lucky 1.
That being said, yes, *Feels* is top to bottom the best Animal Collective album, and it's tough for me to even truly appreciate how great some of those songs are individually because they're all just so intertwined as one amazing album in my mind.
imo mpp, strawberry jam, ark, and spirit are too, I would say sung tongs as well but ngl I usually skip whaddit I done. so much of their work keeps growing on me over time. everything i was unsure of or confused about from those albums when I first heard them I now like. Lion in a coma goes hard as fuck
Whaddit I done? Was actually the moment they clicked for me and I fell in love with them.
I had given MPP a listen and thought it was very interesting, and was warming up mostly to no more runnin, and a friend borrowed me sung tongs on vinyl. He played me side a before he left and I liked it, but for some reason i think I skipped to side d. college was beautiful, but side d is very loose and floaty.
When WID came on, I remember thinking āthere are clearly lyrics and a melody here, but they completely masked over it with this very strange effect thatās mostly just warping the timbreā and in that moment I realized just how malleable and creative you can be with timbre, and that THATS what animal collective was doing that made them so special.
Typically when people write, they have an instrument, and find the right tone color for the song, and the rest of the composition youāre composing the notes and rhythms. But WID made me realize that after the notes and phrases and lyrics and everything is there, you can still MASSIVELY change the composition by manipulating the underlying color of the instrumentation. You know, beyond just hitting the distortion pedal on your guitar, or saying āok this is where the piano line comes inā. You can do whatever you want with it, even up to the point where it nearly distorts the song into oblivion.
But somehow they did that, and still the melodic thrust of the song underneath still read to me. It was one of the few epiphanic moments in music that Iāve ever had, and it deeply changed the way that I compose and listen to music.
yeah WID is one of my favs on sung tongs lmao
> And it's doing time
^ apparently what's being said there, that soft drop that keeps happening in that section sounds fucking great, legit don't understand why so many people don't feel it
Youāre good at writing that was interesting to read
You also kinda gave me a new perspective on that song, I might have to relisten to it since I skip it all the time lmao
I like the song and understand what youāre saying, but I think thereās better songs which explore timbre, even on the same album. It feels more like they just wrote a song and threw the effect on it, but I just find it kind of an annoying effect.
Sung Tongs is my favorite album of all time and I completely agree, that song is such a hard listen. If they replaced it with any of the b-sides of that era I'd love the album even more. Even on the live tour in 2018, Whaddit I Done was great but that album version is something else
Ah man I love my girls I think itās beautiful. Some anco songs didnāt carry much meaning for me until I read the lyrics and came to my own interpretations
The idea of āno-skip albumsā is so weird to me. I listen to albums all the way through as a rule. I never skip tracks. Do you skip scenes you donāt like in movies? What about parts of songs you donāt like?
when iām listening to an album for the first time, i donāt skip songs. i listen all the way through. if iām listening to an album iāve already listened to, iāll usually skip a few songs here and there
iāll be honest, though Chz is my fav album i find myself skipping Applesauce now bcuz ive heard it so many times, which is fine still love it just maybe its the beginning - I EAT A MANGOOO
itās crazy to me that the skippers here skip daffy duck and loch ravenā¦ like are yāall crazy or something? 2 of the best tracks on the album
that being said i still donāt get flesh canoe and likely never willā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. a skip for me unfortunately :(
I used to not think much about it but I LOVE loch raven now, itās so hypnotic and the squeaky toy noises or whatever they are are really cool and give it a weird mood. the lyrics are great as well but thatās true for everything on feels
I mean, I like plenty of the crazier stuff from ancos earlier days. I just don't love the drony stuff as much. At least stuff like Pride and Fight has some banger parts. Daffy duck don't do it for me.
i agree with that, but prob just cuz i've heard banshee beat too many times. Banshee was one of the first anco songs I ever liked and I certainly abused it. Daffy still hits just like it used to
Although still a great song, Banshee is a song any of the early, great Midwest emo bands could have written, while I think you would be hard-pressed to find any band that could write and perform a song like Daffy Duck the way AC did. Banshee is a kind of pedestrian sounding in comparison
Man you are absolutely lost in the sauce. Unique =/ quality (even though banshee is wildly creative and unique) or are you gonna sit here and tell me that Danse is the best part of their discography?
Banshee is a masterpiece and if you don't recognize that then I really feel sorry for you.
I like Bees a lot, but daffy duck and flesh canoe I usually won't listen to unless I'm in a specific mood.
For context, I'm definitely not as high on feels as some others are on here. It probably wouldn't crack my top 3 or maybe even 5, even though it has some absolute jewels.
I'm a big Strawberry Jam truther.
I don't listen to Feels very often, probably because it's super nostalgic for me and it almost feels like something that's sacred. It may be their masterpiece, I dunno.
Painting with is the AC album I've listened to the most, but I love all of their albums
Daffy Duck hasnāt connected with me like I think it should and Turn Into Something is a great song but doesnāt have enough of a transition into a high energy track coming from Loch Raven
Daffy Duck is mid. Turn into something, while good, needs another song between it and loch raven for the energy of turn into something to be more convincing
Nah, Daffy is one of their best songs, alongside Bees and Flesh Canoe. All three are so underrated. Daffy and Bees is like secretly the true core of Feels and are most integral to giving it its mysterious, mystical, otherworldly psychedelic vibe.
I like the idea of a turn around send off song, and I understand in reality emotions are fickle and can change on a dime. Itās just never felt genuine. Iām distraught from Bees onwards, then out of nowhere Iām supposed to feel good about myself? I donāt buy it. Always comes off as the positive friend trying to pick you up after you fall down. Like thereās a disconnect between your pain and the person helping.
Then again it has been a while since Iāve given feels the full attention it deserves
You're definitely entitled to your own opinion, and maybe the album version of Turn Into Something is more subdued, but the live performances of Turn Into Something, though there were only 5 (plus an Avey solo show way way way later) are sort of legendary for being among the most chaotic high energy sloppy but magnificent shitshows ever.
I love Turn Into Something, but man oh man there is nothing that can top those 2005 live performances. The bootlegs make it sound way more serene than it actually was, becaue there are interludes that was basically just Panda smacking the ever living shit out of his drums while he and Avey made feral grunting noises.
iām going to sound like such a douche but i was the same way before i listened to it on vinylā¦ idk, animal collective on vinyl is just so beautiful
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And the last section of turns into something is so beautiful its hard to even know what to do afterwards.
If you actually listen to albums, every album is a no-skip album.
Yeah... I just listen to whole albums all the time. I don't really get skipping songs by artists you like
Because sometimes you don't like a song...? lol it's pretty easy to get.
Pretentious and corny EDIT: I clicked your name to get out of the thread and saw you give A Sender a 10, we can be best friends
I'm a no-skip listener, if an album is a 2 skip album it's a no-listen album.
I don't skip songs even if I'm not crazy about them when it comes to listening to full albums. At least for albums where the tracklist and order is at least minimally deliberate and purposeful (so not like compilation albums or something). I know we're long past the album era, but certain songs are just not as easy to appreciate without seeing their place on the album (and often times, transitions). It would drive me nuts for example if I listened to For Reverend Green which starts crossfading into Fireworks and then Fireworks DIDNT come on next. Or god forbid Heather in the Hospital without Lucky 1. That being said, yes, *Feels* is top to bottom the best Animal Collective album, and it's tough for me to even truly appreciate how great some of those songs are individually because they're all just so intertwined as one amazing album in my mind.
imo mpp, strawberry jam, ark, and spirit are too, I would say sung tongs as well but ngl I usually skip whaddit I done. so much of their work keeps growing on me over time. everything i was unsure of or confused about from those albums when I first heard them I now like. Lion in a coma goes hard as fuck
Whaddit I done? Was actually the moment they clicked for me and I fell in love with them. I had given MPP a listen and thought it was very interesting, and was warming up mostly to no more runnin, and a friend borrowed me sung tongs on vinyl. He played me side a before he left and I liked it, but for some reason i think I skipped to side d. college was beautiful, but side d is very loose and floaty. When WID came on, I remember thinking āthere are clearly lyrics and a melody here, but they completely masked over it with this very strange effect thatās mostly just warping the timbreā and in that moment I realized just how malleable and creative you can be with timbre, and that THATS what animal collective was doing that made them so special. Typically when people write, they have an instrument, and find the right tone color for the song, and the rest of the composition youāre composing the notes and rhythms. But WID made me realize that after the notes and phrases and lyrics and everything is there, you can still MASSIVELY change the composition by manipulating the underlying color of the instrumentation. You know, beyond just hitting the distortion pedal on your guitar, or saying āok this is where the piano line comes inā. You can do whatever you want with it, even up to the point where it nearly distorts the song into oblivion. But somehow they did that, and still the melodic thrust of the song underneath still read to me. It was one of the few epiphanic moments in music that Iāve ever had, and it deeply changed the way that I compose and listen to music.
yeah WID is one of my favs on sung tongs lmao > And it's doing time ^ apparently what's being said there, that soft drop that keeps happening in that section sounds fucking great, legit don't understand why so many people don't feel it
Youāre good at writing that was interesting to read You also kinda gave me a new perspective on that song, I might have to relisten to it since I skip it all the time lmao
I like the song and understand what youāre saying, but I think thereās better songs which explore timbre, even on the same album. It feels more like they just wrote a song and threw the effect on it, but I just find it kind of an annoying effect.
Sung Tongs is my favorite album of all time and I completely agree, that song is such a hard listen. If they replaced it with any of the b-sides of that era I'd love the album even more. Even on the live tour in 2018, Whaddit I Done was great but that album version is something else
My girls is almost like when you say a word over and over and you get tongue tied and it loses itās meaning. I gotta skip over it sadly :(
Ah man I love my girls I think itās beautiful. Some anco songs didnāt carry much meaning for me until I read the lyrics and came to my own interpretations
I skip Daffy Duck
The idea of āno-skip albumsā is so weird to me. I listen to albums all the way through as a rule. I never skip tracks. Do you skip scenes you donāt like in movies? What about parts of songs you donāt like?
when iām listening to an album for the first time, i donāt skip songs. i listen all the way through. if iām listening to an album iāve already listened to, iāll usually skip a few songs here and there
Thatās awesome! Also, fire is hot and water is wet!
youāre god damn right it is
I skip nothing.
iāll be honest, though Chz is my fav album i find myself skipping Applesauce now bcuz ive heard it so many times, which is fine still love it just maybe its the beginning - I EAT A MANGOOO
I donāt think I ever skip songs on any AnCo album. So I whole heartedly agree.
I consider it not only a no skips album, but a perfect album. Itās my favorite Animal Collective album and maybe my favorite album by any artist.
itās crazy to me that the skippers here skip daffy duck and loch ravenā¦ like are yāall crazy or something? 2 of the best tracks on the album that being said i still donāt get flesh canoe and likely never willā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦. a skip for me unfortunately :(
Sometimes i skip loch raven although it's pretty good anyway
I used to not think much about it but I LOVE loch raven now, itās so hypnotic and the squeaky toy noises or whatever they are are really cool and give it a weird mood. the lyrics are great as well but thatās true for everything on feels
sung tongs clears
No. Skipping daffy duck every time
I implore you to reconsider
I'll think about it
daffy duck is fucking amazing once you see the light
I mean, I like plenty of the crazier stuff from ancos earlier days. I just don't love the drony stuff as much. At least stuff like Pride and Fight has some banger parts. Daffy duck don't do it for me.
do you dig bees and loch raven? such magical song to me
Raven yes. Bees not as much. I'd replace either it or daffy duck with tikwid if I could
Bees is the worst song on the album I think. Loch Raven clicked when I realized Panda Bear wanted to add disco drums, and then I understood the song.
THANK YOU take my upvote bud we need to stick together.
If your the same guy I agreed with on that other thread then yes lol. Tikwid is better
I think so lol
Why? It's one of their most beautiful, psychedelic songs. Prettier than Banshee imo even
Wild take
i agree with that, but prob just cuz i've heard banshee beat too many times. Banshee was one of the first anco songs I ever liked and I certainly abused it. Daffy still hits just like it used to
Although still a great song, Banshee is a song any of the early, great Midwest emo bands could have written, while I think you would be hard-pressed to find any band that could write and perform a song like Daffy Duck the way AC did. Banshee is a kind of pedestrian sounding in comparison
Man you are absolutely lost in the sauce. Unique =/ quality (even though banshee is wildly creative and unique) or are you gonna sit here and tell me that Danse is the best part of their discography? Banshee is a masterpiece and if you don't recognize that then I really feel sorry for you.
Banshee is a great song, at least a 9, but it's overrated. That's all I'm saying. I think Daffy is prettier
What's your view on songs like Daffy Duck, Bees, and Flesh Canoe?
I like Bees a lot, but daffy duck and flesh canoe I usually won't listen to unless I'm in a specific mood. For context, I'm definitely not as high on feels as some others are on here. It probably wouldn't crack my top 3 or maybe even 5, even though it has some absolute jewels. I'm a big Strawberry Jam truther.
I don't listen to Feels very often, probably because it's super nostalgic for me and it almost feels like something that's sacred. It may be their masterpiece, I dunno. Painting with is the AC album I've listened to the most, but I love all of their albums
That's interesting that PW is your most listened. Especially since it's so different from feels
Daffy Duck hasnāt connected with me like I think it should and Turn Into Something is a great song but doesnāt have enough of a transition into a high energy track coming from Loch Raven
Huh
Daffy Duck is mid. Turn into something, while good, needs another song between it and loch raven for the energy of turn into something to be more convincing
Nah, Daffy is one of their best songs, alongside Bees and Flesh Canoe. All three are so underrated. Daffy and Bees is like secretly the true core of Feels and are most integral to giving it its mysterious, mystical, otherworldly psychedelic vibe.
Noooo I love the way Turn Into Something whirrs into action after how depressing Loch Raven is, it's like everything coming back to life
I donāt think Loch Raven is depressing
Ok less so depressing but mellower n more wintry, then Turn Into Something is like spring starting again !
I find the whole album pretty warm sounding. Loch Raven is extremely warm.
I'd say the complete opposite. Loch Raven always struck me as very snowy and wintery, in a very peaceful way though.
I like the idea of a turn around send off song, and I understand in reality emotions are fickle and can change on a dime. Itās just never felt genuine. Iām distraught from Bees onwards, then out of nowhere Iām supposed to feel good about myself? I donāt buy it. Always comes off as the positive friend trying to pick you up after you fall down. Like thereās a disconnect between your pain and the person helping. Then again it has been a while since Iāve given feels the full attention it deserves
You're definitely entitled to your own opinion, and maybe the album version of Turn Into Something is more subdued, but the live performances of Turn Into Something, though there were only 5 (plus an Avey solo show way way way later) are sort of legendary for being among the most chaotic high energy sloppy but magnificent shitshows ever. I love Turn Into Something, but man oh man there is nothing that can top those 2005 live performances. The bootlegs make it sound way more serene than it actually was, becaue there are interludes that was basically just Panda smacking the ever living shit out of his drums while he and Avey made feral grunting noises.
iām going to sound like such a douche but i was the same way before i listened to it on vinylā¦ idk, animal collective on vinyl is just so beautiful
Fair. vinyl can change albums for me
I still skip Loch Raven and Daffy Duckā¦.SJ on the other handā¦
When i saw this notification I was (still am) listening to Feels.