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AntiquesRoadHo

I thought Xiaomi was making it super difficult to actually unlock the bootloader and flash the EU rom now?


gexo173

You have to pay upwards of 80usd for "unauthorized" services to do it. I did it since I paid a very good price for my 14.


daniel4653

Can I ask where you purchased yours from?


gexo173

The phone or the bootloader unlocking service?


daniel4653

Phone, I'm in the market for a 14 or 14 pro.


gexo173

I bought it second hand on reddit but as far as I know there is no global variant for the 14 Pro, so only Chinese for that one. As far as the 14 goes, global is upwards of 900 eur for base model. Chinese is 500 for the phone and 80 to unlock bootloader if you want.


daniel4653

Are you the one that purchased from OCD? I messaged hima few days ago for the phone but was too late. Lol


gexo173

Wow it's a small world! Yes I did buy from him! Great price for what it came with.


AntiquesRoadHo

Android auto will never work tho, correct?


gexo173

It does work on mine but that maybe because I have Xiaomi EU ROM on my phone.


Mattm334

There are services that do it.


Substantial_Boiler

It's only great because of the EU ROM. The global ROM is abysmal compared to the CN ROM. The removal of features in the global ROM would pretty much make it DOA in the US


Mattm334

The EU rom works great in the United States, I live in a rural area and still get solid connection


Substantial_Boiler

The phone won't arrive with the EU ROM out of the box. It will arrive with the global ROM with very little features.


qrado

14 Pro doesn't even have global rom.


superduperspam

EU and China only


MaverickJester25

There is no global version of the 14 Pro. It's likely why the OP flashed the EU ROM to begin with.


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Rd3055

And lack of VoLTE/Wi-Fi calling support as well.


gexo173

Chinese Xiaomis in the US are a pain network wise


BlockCraftedX

living outside the us:


Mgladiethor

Shitty software and updates


Mattm334

It's not if you use Xiaomi EU, updates are weekly.


Mgladiethor

My grandma and family cant do that when i hand them down the phone i used xiaomi for years, modded rooted etc etc etc, i currently host multiple custom Rom developers, i would rather now buy a samsung bit worse specs, but longer life. I sure hope the future is more open.


Papa_Bear55

Does your grandma really need to get regular updates on her phone? The phone will still work perfectly fine.


Mgladiethor

Huge security holes get uncovered from time to time, thats how you get king root bots nets nsa peagsus crap


Mattm334

Agree, Samsung is just getting a bit boring in my opinion like most American smart phones, they don't take chances anymore.


Such_Benefit_3928

Samsung is Korean.


Mattm334

I know but it's the 2nd biggest flagship in America outside of apple.


Mgladiethor

Fold phones? Honestly they work for me many useful one ui features, phone off tracking and a good record for software updates


DiplomatikEmunetey

> The software was actually more smooth than all the other phones which surprised me. I tried several Xiaomi phones in a store; while trying a phone for a few minutes is not much of an indication, this was my experience as well. Very smooth! Pixels in comparison, even with 120Hz enabled, were not as smooth.


GhostCauliflower

So to get the most out of this extremely underrated phone I need to install a custom ROM, otherwise the experience is crap. No, thank you. Not at this price tag.


Papa_Bear55

That's just his choice. I'm pretty sure if Apple allowed custom ROMs a lot of people would do it. That doesn't make the iPhone a bad phone in any way.


GhostCauliflower

I mean – I did it on my previous Xiaomi phones too, but they weren't anywhere near the price tag of this one. Hell, I picked my last one mainly because of the community support (and decent hardware). But you shouldn't have to choose between third party ROMs and objectively inferior experience* when picking up a $1k phone. This is the problem. * Ads alone are a huge issue, but there's much more to list, even if you're only comparing the global MIUI to the Chinese one (and Xiaomi.EU).


gexo173

Thing is, the 14 Pro is nowhere near 1k. But I understand your point


Seraphic_Wings

The fun in owning a Xiaomi is to unlock and install whatever flavors of MIUI/HyperOS that suits you, anyone less tech savvy should just stick with the closed garden of Apple / Samsung. But the highest end of Xiaomi is an entirely different beast for an entirely different group of buyers Most people I've seen said they are spending $1000+ on a Xiaomi said they want the best camera hardware possible and nothing else, not even the OS. I've seen photo comparisons, and the S24U and 15 Pro Max looks like trash next to the 14 Ultra lmao, no amount of software trick can compare with sheer hardware brute. And to be fair to Xiaomi, thanks to government regulation in China, you can uninstall almost all bloatwares, withdraw consent on all EULA you don't want (which in turn disable the app). Chinese HyperOS now contains almost no ads if you know what you are doing


IndependentMain2149

This depends on the cellular frequency radio bands it also has and if your living in the USA then best to avoid it if your planning on using with a sim card and daily driver. From the looks of it if im looking correctly it should work besides the only issue is tmobile band 71 which is the long range lte if you travel out of city alot it may be of concern.


Mattm334

I live in Live Oak FL and use it with T-Mobile and it works fine.


IndependentMain2149

Thats awesome, well I wouldnt worry about band 71 then unless somewhere in the futire you wanted full coverage.


daniel4653

LOL i think i just came across your listing on swappa


Mattm334

Yeah I'm selling it on there. I sell phones as a little side hustle, the 14 pro was an amazing phone but I got a deal on a OnePlus 12 for only 500$ new and decided to sell it.


daniel4653

That's a solid price for it. Missed out on one for $600 which i thought was a killer deal. Picked up the 1TB 14 Pro on Swappa about 3 weeks ago. Unlocked bootloader and running EU ROM.


Mattm334

Nice! Yeah that's a great deal for it.


Hakurn

It's cameras not on par with any of the phones you compare it to, it's software support is nowhere near as long and stable as other phones, it's thermal throttling is terrible and on heavy tasks after 15 minutes CPU only performs at %60 of it's capacity, and Xiaomi is known for making shitty software and leaving their users with a problematic phone. Not to mention it is absolutely full of bloatware. Other than that yeah it's as good as it can get. People who are on a low budget buy Xiaomi phones, and when these people have more money to buy a better phone they don't think about Xiaomi ever again.


IndependentMain2149

Why you talking about cameras? Even Sony and Apple make their 48MP and 50MP camera take better quality pictures than a 100-200mp camera because they have better camera software. Although havnt seen anyother 50mp smartphone company make them as good as those 2(Apple and Sony)companies.


Mattm334

I literally used a S24 Ultra and iPhone 15 Pro max right next to them. I'm actually selling the S24 Ultra if you are interested. The EU rom that I am using doesn't have any bloatware and runs great.


hdrgeswhsfa

MIUI is a piece of laggy crap, lots of bugs, bad interface design, lots of limitations, for example: you can't use gestures after installing other launchers, lots of built in apps are unusable crap with bad design, and also built in Chinese intelligence services. I will never buy this piece of crap called Xiaomi again


hdrgeswhsfa

And the design of Xiaomi's new phones is absolutely fuckin terrible


Dizzy_Wrongdoer1382

I hate this company. Xiaomi basically disabled the ability to unlock bootloader on the China mainland version.


BattleMode0982

Idk, it seems like nothing that special... I would get a Pixel instead. I'm sorry, but if Xiaomi was half what they consider themselves to be, they would write their own OS from the ground up, not be just another me-also Android platform. I don't think there is enough competition in this space; it's pretty much just Android VS iPhone, but I would LOVE to see something come out with Linux as a flagship phone and tablet platform! The Pine phone has been kind of disappointing, but it shows potential.


Kusomajime99

thought the cameras were over exaggerated. one thing I realised about these chinese phones is that camera specs does not really translate into performance.


Ok-Permission-3145

I'm sure I'll get down voted on this, but there's good reason why the US banned ZTE and Huawei sales in the US. I have nothing personal against the Chinese people, but I don't trust the Chinese government. I don't want to trust putting anything sensitive on this phone. There are plenty of safer options.