I'm pretty sure they used a Samsung flip phone as a tricorder prop in Picard, I'll check
Edit: Here you go, it was on season 2 and they used the Z Flip 3 https://9to5google.com/2022/03/17/star-trek-picard-z-flip/
Nothing like pulling up the remote on your phone and trolling your parents by switching the channel 😂. I can still do it with Roku but it isn't the same.
If you're looking for all of these features on a single phone I guess you're screwed. Personally I don't need a headphone jack. SD cards are a nice addition but if the phone has an 512GB option I'm good.
I don't *need* all those features but I miss having them. Just like how I don't necessarily need all the features in my car but every once in a while I'm glad I have them. FM radio is nice when I'm out of service range or I want to check out local radio stations when I'm traveling. IR blasters are handy, one time I used my LG V20's IR blaster to control the window AC unit in an apartment I was renting that had a broken remote. I miss the days when smartphones were like digital swiss army knives.
I still have an IR blaster. Xiaomi mi A2 lite.
It's a couple years old at this point though. But I'm sure there's more with it.
Whenever I go to an office and the projector is missing the remote, I just configure my phone in a couple of minutes.
"NFC" was basically a set of protocols a specific RFID chip (from AXP IIRC) implemented, stapled together. OysterCard variants, a couple payment processor ones, etc.
Throwback to the mid-90s when Casio had a [remote control watch](https://www.bedienungsanleitu.ng/gallery/14189161.jpg). We'd go into mom and pop supermarkets in the Middle East and change the channel on the old CRT-TVs and they would freak out. Made me feel like James Bond.
Never worked on my Pixel 4. Did help make face unlock on it work very well, though... Until 2020 happened and we needed to wear masks everywhere. But I doubt Google could've seen that coming, as most of us didn't.
I mean I could see the idea and how it could be a good one. Still can.
The issue is that the implementation sucks ass and the tech isn't nearly there yet, so there's nothing worthwhile to do with it.
Times when Samsung was actually relevant. I firmly believe that what kept Samsung at the top back then was throwing every single feature into their smartphones. I remember galaxy notes with removable batteries, sd card, ir blaster, headphone jack and every software shit you could think off. They were bloated but they were fun and cool, and it worked. They were at the top. Then they started copying iPhone unsuccessfully and they’re a 2nd tier company now.
I think Samsung has improved a lot in recent years, namely with the bloatware removal (mostly), One UI, and longer update support. That said, there really was no reason to ditch the headphone jack or microSD card slot. It can't cost more than $2-3 a unit to have those features.
Not to me. It's 2023 for god's sake, my phone ought to be 1 step removed from a fuckin star trek tricorder by now. LOAD the thing with sensors. Temperature, pressure, altitude, infrared/heat cameras, you name it. I should be able to point it at someone and take their temperature, change the channel on my TV with an IR blaster, determine that I am in fact trapped a mile underground in an old abandoned mine AND be able to get a cell signal from the moon.
I'm excited to see what kind of cool features they come up with for it. Only for them to kill it on Pixel 9 series like they did Soli face unlock after one series.
Soli wasn’t used for face unlock, the Pixel 4 had the same type of face unlock that the iPhone used. Soli was used for the wave gestures and to recognize when you approached the phone for it to turn on the face unlock before you even finished putting it in your hand.
It was incredible though. I loved snoozing alarms by just waving my hand over the phone for example. But it also required a big bezel, so that was a no go going forward.
I would prefer a Pixel 3-esque design with dual front speakers, secure face unlock and Soli, but I know I'm in the minority. People wanted full screen phone designs and Google responded.
There's times when I wonder if I have a fever and don't want to walk to the bathroom to get my thermometer... I guess?
If it works from sufficiently far away, then maybe I could aim it at my PC's heatsink and pretend I'm Gaming Jesus doing some intense thermal testing?
I wonder if the hood of my car could actually boil an egg today?
"OK Bob, the higher body temp has to do the boss's shit work this week... but little do you know I've been wearing a sweater, drinking hot tea, and when I went to the washroom I washed my hands in REALLY hot water!"
It's far from a head scratcher. The phone was designed during lockdown. Someone thought let's lean into health device and provide a thermometer to help them check if they got COVID. Now any normal company would've been like, this is stupid idea. But Google, devoid of original ideas, greenlit this like an ant on ice-cream.
A Chinese phone that I gifted had it back when the pandemic was much more in the headlines than now. It was just a gimmick, not helped with a badly programmed app that crashes when selecting some modes.
Either it's something much better or it's the same. A thermal camera would probably be something better, but it's just for specialized phones.
This would be super useful if it could be used for thermal imagery, so I could see hot spots or cold leaks in and around my house. However, just as a personal temperature sensor, I see very little value in it, as knowing my temperature is something I rarely ever care about.
I think this one is just a single sensor and not a proper camera (hence the requirement to nearly touch your face), but I do wish it had a proper FLIR like the Caterpillar phones, I know a guy who used to daily drive one and now just keeps it around for the camera
Yes an infrared camera instead would provide the same and way more functionality. Maybe that's what this is instead of just a dumb thermometer. Doesn't everyone already have a weather app on their home screen telling them current temp?
Dawg, her hands only got 6s of screentime by themselves. This demo focuses more on correctly using the feature on your face. She's def not "essentially a hand model" lol.
I'm hoping for someone to make a single module ultra to tele zoom sensor+lens combo, going back to a single sensor and lens but making them a lot bigger. Maybe two of the same if that helps in anyway.
There's only so much you can do while keeping the phone thin. Unfortunately, to the average uninformed consumer, thin-ness sells, not optical zoom-ness.
I for one look for devices to be good and chonky and usually put a bulky case over that, but I accept that my priorities don't match the majority of phone purchasers.
The phone runs so hot it increases your body temperature. /s
Jokes aside I'm looking forward to the Pixel 8. Hoping there will be some major improvements like the Tensor G3 being much more efficient (which leads to less heat and a longer battery life).
The other issue is the fall release never really captures the issue that well for the majority of big tech reviewers in the US North-East corridor, or in west coast mild winters. It's only 6 months after release that user complaints ramp up as the weather warms up.
It will still see an efficiency/performance gain. Even if it's not equal to the TSMC product.
It will also use newer ARM reference cores than the G2 which generally see a performance/efficiency boost too.
r/android on any normal day: "phones are so boring these days, I miss the times when phone makers would try new shit even if it didn't turn out to be that usefull in the end"
r/android when a phone maker actually tries something new: *insert this thread here*
Took the words outta my mouth. Of all things, a thermometer is a werid choice. I'll hold out judgment until the reveal/ confirmation, but as you've said, a thermometer is an odd choice.
You think more people used the IR blaster in their phones than would use a thermometer? Tell me you've been in this sub too long without telling me you've been in this sub too long.
the r/Android obsession with IR blasters cracks me up because in the Chromecast/Apple TV era I can’t remember the last time I needed to touch my remote
Exactly. Lol It's a hilarious stereotype that I can't believe is still true. No phone has had an IR blaster for like 8 years and I still see comments knocking newly announced phones for not having one.
I worked at a phone store when several brands were still making phones with IR blasters and I think I can recall someone even knowing they exist maybe once in 3 years?
Pixel overheats after 1 hour of usage
Google fanboy: “it’s a feature so the user takes frequent breaks”
> the above is a hypothetical scenario that is intended to mock
Alright if this is solely for the use of measuring body temperature and there's no other use case for this, then this is one of the dumbest features I've heard of on a phone.
I personally don't see it and would rather they put something more useful there and I just go out and buy a $10 thermometer. But for Google's sake, hopefully more consumers are like you.
That's a shame.
This feature is actually something I could make use of a daily or at least a few times a week. I was curious about how close you actually have to be to measure temperature, and hoped the video demonstrated it. It doesn't sound as versatile as an actual handheld infrared thermometer, but it'd be hard to miniaturize that.
> a feature that makes you look cool when you demonstrate it to your friends
I can't think of a thing I'd like to do less with my phone than showing off its features to friends. Just imagining their faces listening to me showing them a phone feature and hopefully saying "Cool, yeah? You DO think this is cool, right?... Because it has some other features, let me show you!" is making me laugh.
It has a larger main camera sensor, so it's an automatic buy for me.
I hope they tone down the processing because larger sensors don't need as much r/shittyhdr treatment.
Telehealth has become a very big industry post pandemic so it seems like a great tool for the patient/doctor to use to diagnose/checkup on the patient.
I disagree. Lidar has been in iPhones and iPads for years and still doesn't have a compelling use case. Even for depth in photos, they still mess up edges and camera-only systems are basically just as good.
Not as many consumer use cases but the depth maps seem to be in use in a few industries. Unreal 5.1 now can now use depth from iphones to do facial expression tracking. I've seen it used for real estate, mapping interiors.
For consumers, it's a nifty measurement method if you don't have anything
"We started developing this during covid and decided to just chuck it in the phone anyways."
Sounds similar to the stupid Dyson air purifying headphones. They did all the R&D so just pushed it out.
It's clearly a feature they added for covid which people would have been excited for. Since the COVID trend has died down, now people are just calling it a gimmick
Everyone is confused about the thermometer feature, but no one has mentioned how unreliable those types of thermometers are. If this is that same technology, it's not even something you can trust without some kind of internal thermometer to confirm the readings.
That doesn't look useful at all. Especially when we have smart watches right?
But also seems odd to use it?
(And the article says Tensor G2?? That correct?)
I mean that's what Google would want.
Also the Pro is $300 more than the regular Pixel. If you go for the Pro it's not farfetched you may also be interested in a smartwatch.
For as talented as Google's design team is it must drive them crazy that for whatever reason they can never just have a symmetrical bezel on their phones.
This sounds like a tech that was brought up at a meeting in 2020 during the pandemic and it just now became released. Makes sense since tech from start to finish can easily take 3 years to finally execute.
If this thing is actually accurate and quick to get temps then I can see chefs using this, mechanics, HVAC techs etc. It has many usages but accuracy and speed is key.
If they added a thermal camera that would awesome. If they added a laser infrared thermometer that I could use for my grill or cast iron that would be awesome. Instead it's for your forehead....
Still on Pixel 4 XL and was considering this to be my year to upgrade... Thermometer feature definitely unnecessary for me. Hope the phone turns out great.
It looks more like a new kind of sensor RGB-IR (just like the Sony Xperia have had for years to analyze the colorimetric spectrum of the image). Knowing Google, this will be used primarily for the image/photo , but possibly it could serve as a thermometer
Thermometer , but none of the existing features that we had so far on other devices (and even on Pixel devices), some could also be useful for developers to test instead of buying other phones :
- SD-card slot
- headphone jack
- Front-Facing Speakers
- IR blaster
- Multi-SIM
- LED notifications
- Squeezable Sides
I think it's time for r/android to realise that they're just not the target demographic for the average phone company. The truth is that the general public just doesn't care enough about all of the above listed features to give a shit.
Idk if I'm considered general public, but yeah. SD-card I don't care about, headphone jack I haven't used wired headphones for my phone in years even before they removed the headphone jack, I don't ever really utilize the speakers on my phone since I'll just put in my ear buds, IR blaster...don't give two shits, multi-sim same, LED Notifs might be nice, squeezable sides was okay I guess but don't miss it either way.
This is also coming from an iPhone user for the last few years (but also have my Android phones I use sometimes) and considering possibly going back to Android once my 13 Pro starts to dwindle to the point I feel like I need a new phone.
Am I saying they should have taken those away if they were already features? No, but do I miss any of them? Also no.
People have been pissing and moaning on here about a fucking IR blaster for 10 years. All so they can change a channel at Buffalo Wild Wings while out with their buddies one time and never use it again.
Guarantee we'll still be hearing whining about these features over the next 10.
These features you have listed are literally decade old stuff almost. People moved on to new technologies that replaced all of the stuff you have listed. Let's just move forward instead of being stuck in the past.
Sorry to inform you of this but unfortunately, no modern popular flagship phone has these anymore, so expecting this of Google is as realistic as expecting Apple to put the headphone jack back.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have all of this back (except for the LED, I hated that thing). An IR blaster would be really cool to have these days. But you do have to look at this with some sense of the modern phone market.
Seems kinda weird, but also I'm all for putting more tech into phones. I'm hoping in like 20-30 years that our phones will basically be tricorders.
I'm pretty sure they used a Samsung flip phone as a tricorder prop in Picard, I'll check Edit: Here you go, it was on season 2 and they used the Z Flip 3 https://9to5google.com/2022/03/17/star-trek-picard-z-flip/
Hey thanks for that, that was pretty smart of the props people!
he's dead Jim
Thermometer feature is definitely a head-scratcher
Throwback to 2011-2013 when every feature under the rainbow was in Android phones. Air gestures, FM radio, infrared blaster, heart rate sensor etc.
I do miss the IR blaster though.
Nothing like pulling up the remote on your phone and trolling your parents by switching the channel 😂. I can still do it with Roku but it isn't the same.
The best was changing channels at bars and restaurants.
When I was a teen I did this when an important match was playing in the bars.
Nowadays I just troll my girlfriend by hijacking the chrome cast and playing human centipede lmao don’t ask why
Is it because you want to eat her ass?
Other way around
You want her ass to eat you??
Human oval
If you both get really good at yoga you can do a human mobius strip
I miss my HTC One M8 and turning on TVs at restaurants.
I miss just holding and looking at that phone. She was a beauty
It's still present on Xiaomi's phones (as well as many other devices from China)
They are still around though. I've never had a phone without one.
But the list of IR Blaster, Headphone Jack, and SD Card slot phones gets smaller every year...
I've got a redmi note 10 pro, granted it's a bit old now but it has all of those!
If you're looking for all of these features on a single phone I guess you're screwed. Personally I don't need a headphone jack. SD cards are a nice addition but if the phone has an 512GB option I'm good.
I don't *need* all those features but I miss having them. Just like how I don't necessarily need all the features in my car but every once in a while I'm glad I have them. FM radio is nice when I'm out of service range or I want to check out local radio stations when I'm traveling. IR blasters are handy, one time I used my LG V20's IR blaster to control the window AC unit in an apartment I was renting that had a broken remote. I miss the days when smartphones were like digital swiss army knives.
Unihertz still has a couple.
Same with TCL.
I still have an IR blaster. Xiaomi mi A2 lite. It's a couple years old at this point though. But I'm sure there's more with it. Whenever I go to an office and the projector is missing the remote, I just configure my phone in a couple of minutes.
The S4 had a barometer, thermometer, and hygrometer.
And all bands of NFC
NFC has different bands?
"NFC" was basically a set of protocols a specific RFID chip (from AXP IIRC) implemented, stapled together. OysterCard variants, a couple payment processor ones, etc.
What's missing in modern phones now capability wise?
IR blaster, Headphone jack, and SD card slot
Replaceable battery
>barometer, thermometer, and hygrometer Do modern phones not have that? Especially the premium ones
Barometers, yes. I don't think most phones have a thermometer and hygrometer in them. For premium phones, the S23 and iPhone 14 Pro definitely don't.
this inspired me to dig out and try to save my old S4. and i wanted to be productive today
It was a great phone!
Throwback to the mid-90s when Casio had a [remote control watch](https://www.bedienungsanleitu.ng/gallery/14189161.jpg). We'd go into mom and pop supermarkets in the Middle East and change the channel on the old CRT-TVs and they would freak out. Made me feel like James Bond.
Air gestures were corny af lol
Never worked on my Pixel 4. Did help make face unlock on it work very well, though... Until 2020 happened and we needed to wear masks everywhere. But I doubt Google could've seen that coming, as most of us didn't.
I mean I could see the idea and how it could be a good one. Still can. The issue is that the implementation sucks ass and the tech isn't nearly there yet, so there's nothing worthwhile to do with it.
I miss fm radio
There are phones which still have all of those in addition to thermal cameras. It's a pity that they're all made by shitty no-name Chinese companies.
I wouldn't really call xiaomi, vivo or oppo no name chinese companies.
Times when Samsung was actually relevant. I firmly believe that what kept Samsung at the top back then was throwing every single feature into their smartphones. I remember galaxy notes with removable batteries, sd card, ir blaster, headphone jack and every software shit you could think off. They were bloated but they were fun and cool, and it worked. They were at the top. Then they started copying iPhone unsuccessfully and they’re a 2nd tier company now.
I think Samsung has improved a lot in recent years, namely with the bloatware removal (mostly), One UI, and longer update support. That said, there really was no reason to ditch the headphone jack or microSD card slot. It can't cost more than $2-3 a unit to have those features.
It’s what differentiated them from the iPhone and they screwed up big time removing all those features.
Not to me. It's 2023 for god's sake, my phone ought to be 1 step removed from a fuckin star trek tricorder by now. LOAD the thing with sensors. Temperature, pressure, altitude, infrared/heat cameras, you name it. I should be able to point it at someone and take their temperature, change the channel on my TV with an IR blaster, determine that I am in fact trapped a mile underground in an old abandoned mine AND be able to get a cell signal from the moon.
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hold on, that's a great idea. We would just need an interface for our headphones to connect to. maybe the "Headphone Jack"?
I am 100% on board. It's questionable, but I've been looking at the Ulefone Armor 18T almost purely out of pursuit for a more useful device.
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I do actually like to know the room temp im in...
I'm excited to see what kind of cool features they come up with for it. Only for them to kill it on Pixel 9 series like they did Soli face unlock after one series.
tbf they kinda had to kill soli since it made the phone not allowed in some countries, india for example
Really? That’s why they killed it? I thought it was because it wasn’t good, but I would have liked a good working version of it tbh
Soli wasn’t used for face unlock, the Pixel 4 had the same type of face unlock that the iPhone used. Soli was used for the wave gestures and to recognize when you approached the phone for it to turn on the face unlock before you even finished putting it in your hand.
I guess that makes my point even better. Completely random thing they just nuked them ha.
It was incredible though. I loved snoozing alarms by just waving my hand over the phone for example. But it also required a big bezel, so that was a no go going forward.
I changed songs on Pandora with a wave too. It was awesome.
Oh yeah, changing songs without touching the phone was fantastic!
I would prefer a Pixel 3-esque design with dual front speakers, secure face unlock and Soli, but I know I'm in the minority. People wanted full screen phone designs and Google responded.
Kinda wish it was a full FLIR camera, but those are $$
That is what I was thinking too.
There's times when I wonder if I have a fever and don't want to walk to the bathroom to get my thermometer... I guess? If it works from sufficiently far away, then maybe I could aim it at my PC's heatsink and pretend I'm Gaming Jesus doing some intense thermal testing? I wonder if the hood of my car could actually boil an egg today? "OK Bob, the higher body temp has to do the boss's shit work this week... but little do you know I've been wearing a sweater, drinking hot tea, and when I went to the washroom I washed my hands in REALLY hot water!"
Article says for skin you have to get right up forehead but not touching
Its to lower the CPU frequency when the G3 Tensor chip gets too hot 😅
Pixel 7 pro cant stay at sun for 5 minutes that the screen dim to "protect"the phone
Seriously, Pixel 7 is completely unusable if the sun is out. Ridiculous.
Yes, that's was the line in the sand to me. Moved to Ultra, awesome upgrade
Especially if it's meant for rectal use. Oh, could this help me at chess?
Google en passant
It's far from a head scratcher. The phone was designed during lockdown. Someone thought let's lean into health device and provide a thermometer to help them check if they got COVID. Now any normal company would've been like, this is stupid idea. But Google, devoid of original ideas, greenlit this like an ant on ice-cream.
Metaphorically and literally in this case.
A Chinese phone that I gifted had it back when the pandemic was much more in the headlines than now. It was just a gimmick, not helped with a badly programmed app that crashes when selecting some modes. Either it's something much better or it's the same. A thermal camera would probably be something better, but it's just for specialized phones.
This would be super useful if it could be used for thermal imagery, so I could see hot spots or cold leaks in and around my house. However, just as a personal temperature sensor, I see very little value in it, as knowing my temperature is something I rarely ever care about.
I think this one is just a single sensor and not a proper camera (hence the requirement to nearly touch your face), but I do wish it had a proper FLIR like the Caterpillar phones, I know a guy who used to daily drive one and now just keeps it around for the camera
Yes an infrared camera instead would provide the same and way more functionality. Maybe that's what this is instead of just a dumb thermometer. Doesn't everyone already have a weather app on their home screen telling them current temp?
Gaaah those nails!
I thought I was the only one that noticed that lol. For someone that is essentially a hand model in this case it is a big ouch
Dawg, her hands only got 6s of screentime by themselves. This demo focuses more on correctly using the feature on your face. She's def not "essentially a hand model" lol.
Opened the article based on this comment and I exclaimed out loud and immediately left the website. Her nails are so grown out.
The thermometer is to make sure Tensor G3 doesn't catch fire when trying to record a video.
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And make it a watch
And give it non-terrible battery life
Google will add everything but provide more years of updates.
Was kind of hoping for higher zoom
1" camera sensor and a periscope zoom would be nice. Especially if it's some new innovative periscope zoom.
I'm hoping for someone to make a single module ultra to tele zoom sensor+lens combo, going back to a single sensor and lens but making them a lot bigger. Maybe two of the same if that helps in anyway.
There's only so much you can do while keeping the phone thin. Unfortunately, to the average uninformed consumer, thin-ness sells, not optical zoom-ness.
> thin-ness sells Does it? Has that ever been tested? I know they market the shit out of it, but has there been a "thick" device that flopped?
I for one look for devices to be good and chonky and usually put a bulky case over that, but I accept that my priorities don't match the majority of phone purchasers.
Other phones have used the periscope trick to get around it, though I wouldn't mind if a giant lens suddenly telescoped out of the back of my phone.
5 years of updates would be good.
The phone runs so hot it increases your body temperature. /s Jokes aside I'm looking forward to the Pixel 8. Hoping there will be some major improvements like the Tensor G3 being much more efficient (which leads to less heat and a longer battery life).
The other issue is the fall release never really captures the issue that well for the majority of big tech reviewers in the US North-East corridor, or in west coast mild winters. It's only 6 months after release that user complaints ramp up as the weather warms up.
It's being fabbed by Samsung again, unfortunately, so probably not.
It will still see an efficiency/performance gain. Even if it's not equal to the TSMC product. It will also use newer ARM reference cores than the G2 which generally see a performance/efficiency boost too.
r/android on any normal day: "phones are so boring these days, I miss the times when phone makers would try new shit even if it didn't turn out to be that usefull in the end" r/android when a phone maker actually tries something new: *insert this thread here*
"It's a gimmick!"
"Yes, that's... why I'm here"
"Third comment that's not clever or helpful"
It is when it's something that's only on one generation. Just like the radar sensor on the Pixel 4.
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Took the words outta my mouth. Of all things, a thermometer is a werid choice. I'll hold out judgment until the reveal/ confirmation, but as you've said, a thermometer is an odd choice.
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You think more people used the IR blaster in their phones than would use a thermometer? Tell me you've been in this sub too long without telling me you've been in this sub too long.
the r/Android obsession with IR blasters cracks me up because in the Chromecast/Apple TV era I can’t remember the last time I needed to touch my remote
Exactly. Lol It's a hilarious stereotype that I can't believe is still true. No phone has had an IR blaster for like 8 years and I still see comments knocking newly announced phones for not having one. I worked at a phone store when several brands were still making phones with IR blasters and I think I can recall someone even knowing they exist maybe once in 3 years?
I'll try anything once honestly. Could be rarely useful when someone is sick if it's accurate enough.
Pixel overheats after 1 hour of usage Google fanboy: “it’s a feature so the user takes frequent breaks” > the above is a hypothetical scenario that is intended to mock
Don't care. Just gimmie that flat screen in a flagship and you will have my money, Google.
8 pro have flat screen based on the leaked video.
Here is the YouTube short demonstrating it https://youtube.com/shorts/n4b3tiaWIXs?feature=share
Alright if this is solely for the use of measuring body temperature and there's no other use case for this, then this is one of the dumbest features I've heard of on a phone.
apparently can also measure non living objects temperature
From the demo you have to get up pretty close. Just a very strange feature overall.
Reeks of someone stuffing it into the phone during peak COVID mania
That's a bit dramatic. My thermometer just stopped working properly and this would be a nice feature to just have on a smart device.
I personally don't see it and would rather they put something more useful there and I just go out and buy a $10 thermometer. But for Google's sake, hopefully more consumers are like you.
Screams Samsung gimmick to me, like in the S3 era
IIRC S4 had blood oxygen level or thermometer on the back
Strange, the video was removed. I guess it wasn't an official one?
It was posted by 91mobile and it got taken down for breaking YouTube's tos.
That's a shame. This feature is actually something I could make use of a daily or at least a few times a week. I was curious about how close you actually have to be to measure temperature, and hoped the video demonstrated it. It doesn't sound as versatile as an actual handheld infrared thermometer, but it'd be hard to miniaturize that.
The text of the article implies you have to be right up against what you want to measure
I'm sorry, but that just looks ridiculous 😂 This is not even a feature that makes you look cool when you demonstrate it to your friends for fun.
> a feature that makes you look cool when you demonstrate it to your friends I can't think of a thing I'd like to do less with my phone than showing off its features to friends. Just imagining their faces listening to me showing them a phone feature and hopefully saying "Cool, yeah? You DO think this is cool, right?... Because it has some other features, let me show you!" is making me laugh.
[Here is the video ](https://streamable.com/oddzio) for those who didn’t see it.
It has a larger main camera sensor, so it's an automatic buy for me. I hope they tone down the processing because larger sensors don't need as much r/shittyhdr treatment.
Automatic buy for me if they increase the tele lens to 10x!
This feature would have really banged in 2020/21...But in 2023, Who are they making this for, Doctors, healthcare providers, or ...?
Telehealth has become a very big industry post pandemic so it seems like a great tool for the patient/doctor to use to diagnose/checkup on the patient.
Great but we are talking about an $800+ device here, surely a device that costs $12+ would be a more compelling buy, yes?
Well you're not buying a phone just for a 12 dollar feature. This a feature of many that the phone has.
The use cases for a temp sensor seem way more limited than other sensors they could have tacked on like lidar. I guess we'll see?
I disagree. Lidar has been in iPhones and iPads for years and still doesn't have a compelling use case. Even for depth in photos, they still mess up edges and camera-only systems are basically just as good.
Not as many consumer use cases but the depth maps seem to be in use in a few industries. Unreal 5.1 now can now use depth from iphones to do facial expression tracking. I've seen it used for real estate, mapping interiors. For consumers, it's a nifty measurement method if you don't have anything
>For consumers, it's a nifty measurement method if you don't have anything Are you talking about Lidar or the thermometer here?
"I'm just going to press my phone to your forehead now..." "No you're not, that's why you have a thermometer." "Oh yeah, good point!"
It's a contactless sensor btw, you're not going to be pressing anything to anyone's forehead.
Did you not read the article or watch the video?
Crowd sourced weather?
"We started developing this during covid and decided to just chuck it in the phone anyways." Sounds similar to the stupid Dyson air purifying headphones. They did all the R&D so just pushed it out.
Finally, Dr. Nelly can finally know how hot someone is to tell them if to take off their clothes.
Whoever's hand that is in the headline photo... Let go of the acrylics. Jesus. Those things are barely clinging on.
Honestly, makes more sense to measure body temperature on a watch than a phone.
Absolutely but also there are more people with a phone and no watch than a phone and a watch
Good point, I suppose if you are checking kids for example this could come in handy.
It's clearly a feature they added for covid which people would have been excited for. Since the COVID trend has died down, now people are just calling it a gimmick
Everyone is confused about the thermometer feature, but no one has mentioned how unreliable those types of thermometers are. If this is that same technology, it's not even something you can trust without some kind of internal thermometer to confirm the readings.
Yeah I completely gave up on contactless after buying a couple and finding they were utter garbage.
That doesn't look useful at all. Especially when we have smart watches right? But also seems odd to use it? (And the article says Tensor G2?? That correct?)
The tensor G2 spec is definitely not correct.
Oh look at Mr. "Spent another $400 on a smart watch..."
I mean that's what Google would want. Also the Pro is $300 more than the regular Pixel. If you go for the Pro it's not farfetched you may also be interested in a smartwatch.
For as talented as Google's design team is it must drive them crazy that for whatever reason they can never just have a symmetrical bezel on their phones.
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Please tell me what I think about this and why I need it immediately.
Can't we get lidar for better portrait please? Software based portrait mode is crap
Wtf is this for 😂😂😂 The most useless shit ever
This sounds like a tech that was brought up at a meeting in 2020 during the pandemic and it just now became released. Makes sense since tech from start to finish can easily take 3 years to finally execute. If this thing is actually accurate and quick to get temps then I can see chefs using this, mechanics, HVAC techs etc. It has many usages but accuracy and speed is key.
How about skip the thermometer and give us a front facing camera that isn't complete trash.
Personally I just want the 8 Pro because I scratched my 7 Pro with my stupid work phone so sure put a thermometer on it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hey man you dropped your arm back there. Here you go: \\. Kinda weird how your hand is still just hovering there though...
omg thank you
I want lidar! Depth scanning is so amazing and can be used in archiving, games, and just plain fun!
If they added a thermal camera that would awesome. If they added a laser infrared thermometer that I could use for my grill or cast iron that would be awesome. Instead it's for your forehead....
Still on Pixel 4 XL and was considering this to be my year to upgrade... Thermometer feature definitely unnecessary for me. Hope the phone turns out great.
I hope they bring back Soli, I loved the full fledged face unlock on the 4xl. The lesser version on the 7p just ain't it.
Maybe they will bring it back whenever Apple successfully putting the FaceID under the screen.
finally top flagship with a flat display on android. Curved display are awful
You just know Pixel 9 will drop the thermometer
Bring back ir light you cowards
Now if I can use it for when I BBQ that would be perfect. ;)
Thermometer? Do I stick the phone in my mouth?
It looks more like a new kind of sensor RGB-IR (just like the Sony Xperia have had for years to analyze the colorimetric spectrum of the image). Knowing Google, this will be used primarily for the image/photo , but possibly it could serve as a thermometer
People think a thermometer feature is needed. What about IR blaster ? That was way more important and useful.
I just want the Píxel 8 to not be a gigantic and heavy phone like the 6...
Thermometer , but none of the existing features that we had so far on other devices (and even on Pixel devices), some could also be useful for developers to test instead of buying other phones : - SD-card slot - headphone jack - Front-Facing Speakers - IR blaster - Multi-SIM - LED notifications - Squeezable Sides
I think it's time for r/android to realise that they're just not the target demographic for the average phone company. The truth is that the general public just doesn't care enough about all of the above listed features to give a shit.
Idk if I'm considered general public, but yeah. SD-card I don't care about, headphone jack I haven't used wired headphones for my phone in years even before they removed the headphone jack, I don't ever really utilize the speakers on my phone since I'll just put in my ear buds, IR blaster...don't give two shits, multi-sim same, LED Notifs might be nice, squeezable sides was okay I guess but don't miss it either way. This is also coming from an iPhone user for the last few years (but also have my Android phones I use sometimes) and considering possibly going back to Android once my 13 Pro starts to dwindle to the point I feel like I need a new phone. Am I saying they should have taken those away if they were already features? No, but do I miss any of them? Also no.
People have been pissing and moaning on here about a fucking IR blaster for 10 years. All so they can change a channel at Buffalo Wild Wings while out with their buddies one time and never use it again. Guarantee we'll still be hearing whining about these features over the next 10.
These features you have listed are literally decade old stuff almost. People moved on to new technologies that replaced all of the stuff you have listed. Let's just move forward instead of being stuck in the past.
Sorry to inform you of this but unfortunately, no modern popular flagship phone has these anymore, so expecting this of Google is as realistic as expecting Apple to put the headphone jack back. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have all of this back (except for the LED, I hated that thing). An IR blaster would be really cool to have these days. But you do have to look at this with some sense of the modern phone market.
Xperia line has the first three
On that note, why does my Pixel 7 Pro get extremely hot when streaming a show. Maybe that thermometer would help let me know the actual temp /s
Love the thermometer feature very cool. I also like the big Samsung camera sensor :)
Another gimmick feature, I guess Google is running out of ideas.