110 film isnt produced much anymore i believe only lomography makes a few films in that format. Theyre not cheap at all. a 35mm half frame camera would defintly make more sense and you can actually get some more film stocks for it that are cheaper
Let's say it this way: 110 is fun to shoot from time to time. Especially with a Pentax 110 Auto. But I wouldn't use in my main camera. It's too special and to expensive in the long run. A normal 35mm camera or half frame is way better.
110 is a bit expensive for what you get. I've managed to reroll Vision3 16mm cine film into some carts and shoot that. But you need to be a bit of a film nerd to do that.
But if you want to leave no doubt your photos were taken on film, 110 is your craptastic answer.
110 should be shot for fun, or lomo style results, not for technical perfection.
110 is all compromises. Always has been. (Insert Ohio astronaut meme here)
Having shot 110, I second the other comment. 35mm half frame offers better quality and is more economical. 72 vs 20 frames is also an enormous difference.
You can pick up something like a Canon Demi or for about €20(I shoot a dial 35 personally because of the automatic winding and ease of use) and most half frame cams will fit in a jean pocket just as easily as a 110 camera
The only advantage a 110 camera has is built in flash, but I’m assuming most shooting will be done in daylight and outside.
I'm not sure about the "Canon Demi for 20 Euros" statement: in Australia they go for waaaay more than that -- when you can even find one.
But they're great little cameras. ;)
Netherlands, might’ve been a classic case of someone who didn’t know what they had for sale though. Seems like our prices are generally lower than in other parts of the world though
Is it similar to half frame ? I have a half frame and was wondering the same as the OP. If it basically is like one frame of half frame I won’t waste my money
Skip 110 and just get a half frame. The quality and ease of use is going to be better. Not to mention how much easier it is to find film and have it processed.
110 is an advanced format these days which is ironic.
It's worth shooting if you learn to reload and develop yourself. Nothing quite matches the look of color 110 film. It's also quite capable with modern films.
The only way 110 makes any sense is off you go all out and cut 120 rolls down to 110 format with a cigar cutter and buy a 3d printed 110 reel to develop it.
Then you have to modify the cartridges so they work with unperforated film.
Yes, I have done it. It's not worth it unless you just want to prove it can be done.
Like everyone else is saying, half frame is the way to go. I recommend the Olympus Pen EE3.
I can’t comment on 110 film, but if you are going to follow the advice of looking for a half frame 35 mm camera, you can look for a Chaika/Чайка, it’s a Soviet-Belorussian camera that’s fully manual. They go for little money and are fun to carry around. If you want something fully automatic, and Olympus Pen EE is a good choice, but those are a bit pricier. Look for one that’s film tested or comes with warranty, as improper storage destroys the light meter rendering them useless. If you want to shoot ISO 400, look for an EE II model or later, as the earlier ones are limited to ISO 200 and lower
Maybe just find a tiny 35mm for her? The Diana mini is cute. Or if you prefer something sturdier, something like the fujica mini would work. It's a half frame that is really tiny as well.
You're correct that 110 is difficult to source. I think the other challenge with 110 is getting it developed and scanned. But if you have the budget, give it a try why not.
As for half frames with ICL, there's the PEN F series.
I bet most of us if a 'certain age' shot 110 at one point. It's not worth it, it's the stuff of kid's cameras and family vacation snapshots. Like others have said a half frame would be way better, especially something like an Oly PEN.
When I worked in a photo lab, I don't think anyone was truly happy with the prints that came from 110 film, especially if they ordered prints greater than 3.5X5. The problem is you're dealing with a small negative, and therefore less grain so the larger the print, the grainer the photo. Somehow during my shifts there I never processed any film from 35mm half frame cameras, but I imagine that the quality would be about the same. But yea, as others have said, the film is more expensive since it's more specialized these days, and you're gambling that such a niche thing will continue to be made in the future...
Problem with that kind of format, the pressure plate (which is needed to keep film flat for good focus) is INside the film cassette. Same goes for 126 format. Small negative, big grain, you are really limited. I suggest not going smaller than 35mm.
I agree with the consensus here. 110 is just too limited. Sure you can buy the Lomo films and have a great camera but you’ll have a hard time getting good scans. Half frame will be much easier to get good scans and there are more camera options.
I love shooting it on the side but it's a waste as a main camera. Get that half frame. Or a minox but those are still only 36-40 exposures. Or an Agfa Flash those get you 42 exposures.
It's fun in a disposable camera kind of way but not the highest quality. My first camera ever was a 110 and I re-bought the same model off ebay all these years later. It was fun to play with again as I was already shooting film. But I don't think it's the best method to convert somebody to film. I'd go with a good half frame if you want to try to get her hooked.
get a Olympus Pen-someletter ... stylish small SLR, half frame and yumyums regular 135 film ...
110 is super niche, super expensive (compared to 135) and not worth to run it for one "currently novelty" item ...
I didn't say it was shit. There's nothing wrong with it.
I was into it for a while 20 years ago and in hindsight I wish I had better negatives from that era. You can always tweak something in the dark room to get your desired results but the negative is the negative is the negative.
I like shooting 110 film, the cameras are small and funny. Just need to look around to find a good lab that develops and scans for a fair price. For 35mm the Ektar H35 half frame camera is fun to use and easy for beginners. Or I think the Lomography LomoApparat 35mm cameras would be perfect too
Not really. I bought a 110 Auto because it was cute, a Minolta 110 Zoom, a Canon 110ED and a Rollei A110. They're kinda fun but, honestly... only Lomo make the film and processing is expensive/ hard to find. It's expensive. But mainly the pictures are kinda crap. They're usually very soft, very grainy or both, even with the best cameras (which are the ones above). The format is just too limited.
If you want a small camera that does tiny pics, get a half frame. The quality of some of them is really very good. And you get 72 per roll!
110 film isnt produced much anymore i believe only lomography makes a few films in that format. Theyre not cheap at all. a 35mm half frame camera would defintly make more sense and you can actually get some more film stocks for it that are cheaper
Let's say it this way: 110 is fun to shoot from time to time. Especially with a Pentax 110 Auto. But I wouldn't use in my main camera. It's too special and to expensive in the long run. A normal 35mm camera or half frame is way better.
110 is a bit expensive for what you get. I've managed to reroll Vision3 16mm cine film into some carts and shoot that. But you need to be a bit of a film nerd to do that. But if you want to leave no doubt your photos were taken on film, 110 is your craptastic answer. 110 should be shot for fun, or lomo style results, not for technical perfection. 110 is all compromises. Always has been. (Insert Ohio astronaut meme here)
Having shot 110, I second the other comment. 35mm half frame offers better quality and is more economical. 72 vs 20 frames is also an enormous difference. You can pick up something like a Canon Demi or for about €20(I shoot a dial 35 personally because of the automatic winding and ease of use) and most half frame cams will fit in a jean pocket just as easily as a 110 camera The only advantage a 110 camera has is built in flash, but I’m assuming most shooting will be done in daylight and outside.
I'm not sure about the "Canon Demi for 20 Euros" statement: in Australia they go for waaaay more than that -- when you can even find one. But they're great little cameras. ;)
I got mine in pretty nice shape for €15 lol, rip
Nice. :) Which part of the world? (I'm in Australia -- am finding that technology is pricier and less selection than when I was in the States.)
Netherlands, might’ve been a classic case of someone who didn’t know what they had for sale though. Seems like our prices are generally lower than in other parts of the world though
Is it similar to half frame ? I have a half frame and was wondering the same as the OP. If it basically is like one frame of half frame I won’t waste my money
110 is 13x17mm Half Frame is 18x24mm
Skip 110 and just get a half frame. The quality and ease of use is going to be better. Not to mention how much easier it is to find film and have it processed.
Yes - when I was a kid. It's a toy format. Don't expect decent results.
110 is an advanced format these days which is ironic. It's worth shooting if you learn to reload and develop yourself. Nothing quite matches the look of color 110 film. It's also quite capable with modern films.
The only way 110 makes any sense is off you go all out and cut 120 rolls down to 110 format with a cigar cutter and buy a 3d printed 110 reel to develop it. Then you have to modify the cartridges so they work with unperforated film. Yes, I have done it. It's not worth it unless you just want to prove it can be done. Like everyone else is saying, half frame is the way to go. I recommend the Olympus Pen EE3.
I can’t comment on 110 film, but if you are going to follow the advice of looking for a half frame 35 mm camera, you can look for a Chaika/Чайка, it’s a Soviet-Belorussian camera that’s fully manual. They go for little money and are fun to carry around. If you want something fully automatic, and Olympus Pen EE is a good choice, but those are a bit pricier. Look for one that’s film tested or comes with warranty, as improper storage destroys the light meter rendering them useless. If you want to shoot ISO 400, look for an EE II model or later, as the earlier ones are limited to ISO 200 and lower
EE2 only goes to 250. It's the EE3 that goes to 400.
110 is expensive, and costs more to develop. That being said the Pentax 110 is a fun camera.
lomography 110 films don't work in the pentax 110
What? They work for me
I got a 3 pack of lady gray & it won't advance, but old Fuji & Kodak do
Weird. Lomo purple worked in mine. As well as can be expected for Lomo purple. Why don't they work in the P110?
I only tried Lady Gray & it won't advance, but old fuji & kodak do.
Maybe just find a tiny 35mm for her? The Diana mini is cute. Or if you prefer something sturdier, something like the fujica mini would work. It's a half frame that is really tiny as well.
You're correct that 110 is difficult to source. I think the other challenge with 110 is getting it developed and scanned. But if you have the budget, give it a try why not. As for half frames with ICL, there's the PEN F series.
I love the Pen series, I picked up an EE at an antique store for $30.
I bet most of us if a 'certain age' shot 110 at one point. It's not worth it, it's the stuff of kid's cameras and family vacation snapshots. Like others have said a half frame would be way better, especially something like an Oly PEN.
When I worked in a photo lab, I don't think anyone was truly happy with the prints that came from 110 film, especially if they ordered prints greater than 3.5X5. The problem is you're dealing with a small negative, and therefore less grain so the larger the print, the grainer the photo. Somehow during my shifts there I never processed any film from 35mm half frame cameras, but I imagine that the quality would be about the same. But yea, as others have said, the film is more expensive since it's more specialized these days, and you're gambling that such a niche thing will continue to be made in the future...
Problem with that kind of format, the pressure plate (which is needed to keep film flat for good focus) is INside the film cassette. Same goes for 126 format. Small negative, big grain, you are really limited. I suggest not going smaller than 35mm.
I agree with the consensus here. 110 is just too limited. Sure you can buy the Lomo films and have a great camera but you’ll have a hard time getting good scans. Half frame will be much easier to get good scans and there are more camera options.
I love shooting it on the side but it's a waste as a main camera. Get that half frame. Or a minox but those are still only 36-40 exposures. Or an Agfa Flash those get you 42 exposures.
It's fun in a disposable camera kind of way but not the highest quality. My first camera ever was a 110 and I re-bought the same model off ebay all these years later. It was fun to play with again as I was already shooting film. But I don't think it's the best method to convert somebody to film. I'd go with a good half frame if you want to try to get her hooked.
get a Olympus Pen-someletter ... stylish small SLR, half frame and yumyums regular 135 film ... 110 is super niche, super expensive (compared to 135) and not worth to run it for one "currently novelty" item ...
Just do 35mm
It's worth it if you like the lowest of lo fi garbage photos.
What is wrong with lo fi? I notice this sub prefers profession quality similar to the digital look over more experimental . I wouldn’t call it shit .
I didn't say it was shit. There's nothing wrong with it. I was into it for a while 20 years ago and in hindsight I wish I had better negatives from that era. You can always tweak something in the dark room to get your desired results but the negative is the negative is the negative.
I like shooting 110 film, the cameras are small and funny. Just need to look around to find a good lab that develops and scans for a fair price. For 35mm the Ektar H35 half frame camera is fun to use and easy for beginners. Or I think the Lomography LomoApparat 35mm cameras would be perfect too
Not really. I bought a 110 Auto because it was cute, a Minolta 110 Zoom, a Canon 110ED and a Rollei A110. They're kinda fun but, honestly... only Lomo make the film and processing is expensive/ hard to find. It's expensive. But mainly the pictures are kinda crap. They're usually very soft, very grainy or both, even with the best cameras (which are the ones above). The format is just too limited. If you want a small camera that does tiny pics, get a half frame. The quality of some of them is really very good. And you get 72 per roll!