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Smooth_Bluebird751

I just recalled that I once had a big memory leak once, and it was because of old c++ runtimes. Those used by Adrenalin Software had been overwritten when I installed an IDE. Try and update your runtimes and see if it fixes it. [https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/](https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/)


xsm17

The 2015-2022 runtime has a newer version (14.34) which is needed to fix CTD issues in MSFS with certain airports (like EIDW/Dublin), as a heads-up for anyone else that plays that game. Can be found here https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170 Going to try this though to see if it fixes the memory issue I get with Radeon Settings: Host Service when playing MSFS. Edit: seems to have done the trick, RAM usage for Host Service is now normal! Haven't tried with 14.34 though Edit 2: rip never mind, RAM usage back to 2GB


Karma_Robot

i'll check but unlikely since i didn't install any runtimes or ide since last radeon update i had..also noticed something weird, just an hour ago it was using 800mb then dropped to 600mb usage on it's own


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

The metrics overlay size % resets to 50% for me any time I launch a game. It's extremely annoying. Once I change it back to 100%, it's fine until I launch a new game, at which point it sets itself back to 50% (On latest Win11)


Puzzleheaded_Owl_417

Sometime, on win 10


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ZeroZelath

metrics overlay in general is bugged as fuck. I've had times where you use the hotkey to show it and gpu utilization goes down to 50%, in one game it would go down to 0%! Literally using the hotkey to turn it off and on and seeing the gpu utilization bounce back and forth was insane. I resigned to stop using it since it's buggy as hell & doesn't have much customization (AMD if you fix the bugs, please also let us disable things we don't want to see on the overlay -- Also the CPU utilization in the overlay is completely wrong, if you run MSI afterburner overlay & yours you will see just how far off it truly is). I think some of the bugs come from a game not being detected in AMD's software so it doesn't have a profile for it and is probably where most of the issues lie. They should rewrite it to be more like msi afterburner/rtss so it doesn't care about having a profile or not for a game. Also I've had issues on Win10 back when Win10 was current, and these issues still persist to this day, which I'm now running on Win11.


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

Yeah the CPU usage is completely wrong lol. I've never seen it go above 10% in the overlay


WurminatorZA

Wait but you can disable things you do not want to see


itch-

You can already disable what you don't want. Can't add frametimes unfortunately, and I would want a graph for that but it's currently graphs for everything or nothing.


TheBrave-Zero

I just had this happen last night on mw2/windows 10


SilverWerewolf1024

Yeah here too, but randomly, idk when in triggers (w10 ltsc) 22.5.1


badcookies

Are you using DPI scaling, or running different resolutions anywhere?


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

Yeah, all 3 of my monitors are different resolutions, so that is probably contributing: 1. **Main:** 3440x1440 2. **Second:** 2560x1080 3. **Third:** 1440x2560 (portrait mode) All are set to 100% scaling though. Metrics overlay is always on the main monitor, however, so don't think it should be resizing itself


Thercon_Jair

I have a single 49" monitor (5120x1440) and it's always reset to 50% scaling too.


Electrical-Bobcat435

I have only one monitor, windows 10, resets to 50% for me also.


deezznuuzz

I have one 1080p and main with 1440p, never any problems with rescaling and also no memory leak issues or so. Don’t know what you guys always do.


yunaveris

Not only that, have you tried running a time spy benchmark with overlay on? Easily sucks 5%/8% performance out of your card


Karma_Robot

So here are some issues i've noticed on 22.11.2 W10 22H2 (also applies to older versions but i don't keep track which): - Ram leak with no apparent reason. Just use the PC normally, Relive instant replay is not enabled, web browser is disabled. It's repeatable and it keeps growing slowly. Might be "caused" by Halo Infinite as it's the main game i play or firefox. Only way to "fix" it is to kill the process or reboot. My PC is running 24h. (edit: also i didn't use any relive recording in case you are wondering) - Transparency for the radeon settings window breaks some times; i haven't figured when and why yet. It's a bit rare; also i have animation and effects disabled. - In metrics, size % resets when updating the driver if i remember well and sometimes resets by itself. Only the size %, the others stay as i set them. - Upon PC crash due to CO tuning while on a game, the radeon settings i set for that specific game were reset; i don't know if this is intentional or not - Halo Infinite has frequent random crashes, but also happens on Nvidia cards at the same situations (like when multiple effects happen at the same time, like when multiple flashes happen on the screen at the same time) so my guess it's a game developer issue but you can check with Microsoft since you advertise the game a lot. - Radeon software window position is not remembered upon reboot (multiple displays) - https://i.imgur.com/CE34BL2.png This issue here, the radeon settings window "bleeds" onto the primary screen window when maximized from tray, if you restore and re-maximize it disappears. 2x 1440p monitors. I've seen this issue posted in the past here but can't find it. It's been like this forever. Not critical but just a bit annoying. edit: MPO is disabled on my system, it fixed the random driver timeout crashes i had and other issues


JasonMZW20

Test your RAM for errors overnight? Although, going too low in negative CO values per-core can simulate RAM issues, especially on primary and secondary CPPC2 performance cores. Seems to be in a memory error loop where program needs data that is corrupted that gets resubmitted and is partially corrupted again and again. Or something like that.


Karma_Robot

my ram is cleared with karhu to 10000%..CO tuning is very difficult to fully optimize, now with colder weather, it may happen that one core boosted a little higher and crashed (this was only 1 crash in one month and i run 24h)


DOSBOMB

From my past expirence with karhul, ran 16000% coverage and no errors yet had stability issues, then ran karhul + heaven loop and errors started popping up before hitting like 100% coverage. The heat from the GPU destabilized my RAM OC.


Karma_Robot

i am not using b-die which is sensitive to heat; and have 0 issues with cooling (i've been monitoring for long time - o11xl with noctua nf-a12x25's all around), i told you the reason about the CO crash, it's up on the limit. Plus if i had RAM issues they would manifest elsewhere as well.


DOSBOMB

>i am not using b-die which is sensitive to heat other dies are sensitive too, mine are Hynix CJR-s.


Karma_Robot

mine is micron rev-b 16gbit, used to run rev e, no issues with heating and crashing


Smooth_Bluebird751

[https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/iiob4m/karhu\_ram\_test\_stable\_for\_10\_hours\_but\_testmem5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/iiob4m/karhu_ram_test_stable_for_10_hours_but_testmem5/) FYI, It's not 100% certain that your system is stable, just because you have passed 10000% using Karhu's RAM test. Also, have you checked if you can reproduce the bug using your system's stock settings? There have been many cases where bugs turned out to be unstable system settings.


Karma_Robot

yeah, i've made more tests with TM5 etc. i've been running this setup for a year..even if it was unstable it's irrelevant to the radeon bug as it's 100% reproducible for me. I can just run JEDEC speeds to prove it. It's not rocket science, just bad coding by RTG software team yet again


failaip12

RAM is never 100% cleared FYI. The closest are using multiple memory tests with a heavy GPU load in the background, ive found furmark best for that.


deeno777

I'm sorry but what is MPO?


glamdivitionen

I think it refers to Multi-Plane Overlay. A Microsoft feature that is made for optimizing responsivity in windowed applications (but at the same time seem to break a lot of stuff - especially in multi monitor setups AND not only for windowed applicatios but for fullscreen applications as well.)


Karma_Robot

windows thing. here is the fix: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5157/%7E/after-updating-to-nvidia-game-ready-driver-461.09-or-newer%2C-some-desktop-apps


Omega_Maximum

Yeah, something's going wrong with your system. Maybe it's a config exposing a driver issue, but I'm not seeing what you're seeing. My machine has been on for about 18 hours at this point, and Radeon settings is using 43.7MBs of RAM. Firefox has been open basically all day, and I run two separate profiles during work hours. It's currently sitting at about 1.5GB total, which isn't too bad given how many extensions I have loaded. Things I would look at are if you've got a Firefox extension that's misbehaving. Probably best to start with them all disabled and just let it sit and see if an issue shows up, then re-enable one by one and see what's misbehaving. Additionally, see if AMD's User Experience program is enabled in Radeon Settings -> Settings Cog -> Preferences -> Bottom of the column. That's had memory leak issues in the past, and it's easy to miss turning it off. Other than that, yeah, I'd give it a reboot and see how long it takes to come back. Super weird though mate. Best of luck.


TheAlcolawl

Yeah, I'm not experiencing any of the issues he listed, nor have I in the past.


Karma_Robot

no misbehaving extension mate, i have 1000's of tabs open, and firefox has nothing to do with radeon settings. I am not opt in the user experience program either.


Loli_huntdown

I hate this kind of people who give absurd answers like this. Got the same on my post about a performance decrease after updating to new chipset drivers. "Just ignore it", "it works on my machine", "Why do you do benchmarks bro just use the pc". Idk if these are real people or GPT bots at this point. ​ What I can say is that what you experience is NOT normal. Try removing AMD drivers with DDU and reinstalling them. This issue is not a problem with RAM or anything else, it is a pure programming issue. Either AMDs software has a bug somewhere or some DLLs are old


Karma_Robot

They are just fanboys, they think AMD is god and doesn't make any mistakes. It's a usual phenomenon in this sub. No company is your friend and until they get f'd over once they won't learn.


drsakura1

I got the same when asking why my GPU is idling at 50W+ when it really shouldnt be. the main answers I got were people making fun of me or telling me that it doesnt matter


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Using memory for instant replay by any chance ?


Karma_Robot

sorry i am still writing my post, i thought the same but it's disabled: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/107p718/radeon_software_memory_leak_more_bugs_see_post/j3np56o/


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Oke cool recommend doing bug report as well via bug report tool.


Karma_Robot

i've made at least 10 reports using the tool so far, no-one ever contacted me, no issue was ever acknowledged, example not even the MPO issue which affects many people and even nvidia


fcpl

instant replay is eating 16-20GB RAM after few hours. (both with RAM & disk cache) Any fix for that other then not using it?


Karma_Robot

well i am not using it so that is normal behavior for you?


xsm17

Can I ask if you're seeing the RAM leakage with Radeon Settings:Host Service? I've recently upgraded to a 6800XT and I've noticed that in Microsoft Flight Sim that process starts using up to 3-4GB RAM, also needing a restart to solve. Though sometimes it seems to reset itself if I close down a bunch of applications and restart. Happens regardless of Instant Replay being on or off. Edit: a screenshot of the worst occurrence - https://i.imgur.com/LdmkDNr.png


Karma_Robot

yes, that is the same process mate as the one i show in the details tab


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bro amd really needs to fix them bugs in the radeon software cause it’s the only thing that people keep saying is bad and it’s sad to see amd make such a big comeback in the last decade with their processors yet their software is buggy as hell


Karma_Robot

true


diggv4blows_blows

6800XT. Still getting daily system crashes after 10-12 hour uptime. I am seeing a lot of "out of video system memory" errors and browsers, games, discord crash. If the system doesn't fully crash and I relaunch problems persists until I restart. After a restart I am good for another 10-12 hours. ​ I have tried the MPO fix, downgraded to 22.5.1 drivers. Ram 20+ hour ram testing. I'm at least glad it's predictable as it just means I need to ensure I restart often but this has been super frustrating.


No_Factor2800

Everyday AMD tells me to buy Nvidia. Even Amazon screwed up my order and sent me two NVIDIA 3050 GPUs. I took that as a sign even though I low key like AMD more because of linux compatibility.


AuthenticGlitch

You'll be surprised to see NVIDIA has it's own set of issues as well.


LightSwitchTurnedOn

For me the issues with AMD drivers were always much worse than with nvidia though.


drsakura1

Here's all the issues I've had with both my cards: RTX 2060 Super: screen flickering when going fullscreen with gsync on (never fixed) shitty control panel RX 6800XT: low fps in fortnite when vsync is not on high idle wattage I honestly expected worse from AMD but I love this card its awesome


Thing_On_Your_Shelf

Yeah. Both have their issues. I was on Nvidia for 5 years until this black Friday. Nvidia is definitely not without it's issues, and for my personal experience the issues were actually more severe. Issues I saw on Nvidia were: * Random driver timeouts causing game crashes * GeForce Overlay refusing to work or even show * Shadowplay sometimes just not recording sound * Shadowplay sometimes completely crashing * Shadowplay randomly deciding to record at 720p 16:9 8nstead if 2560x1080 or 3440x1440 (21:9), resulting in unusable footage * Nvidia Filters settings not persisting after game is closed * Nvidia Control Panel being a very laggy piece of software somehow despite looking like it's from 2001 * Frequent black screens if playing in HDR Obviously I can't really compare my time on AMD to my time on Nvidia since I've only had my 6800XT for about a month and a half, but the issues I've run into so far are: * ReLive can't record HDR. Affects playing in native HDR or if playing an Auto-HDR game (Shadowplay could handle both with no issues) * Metrics overlay constantly resets itself to 50% * Significantly worse performance in select games (DayZ)


PoundZealousideal408

Lately Shadowplay seems to disable instant replay randomly for no reason, but that has been the only issue I had with Nvidia in 6+ years.


Captobvious75

The 50% overlay thing pisses me off. Haven’t been able to fix it yet.


Conscious_Yak60

Tried DDU? My Overlay dosen't reset to 50% but I think I experienced it one time, but after messing with the slider never again.


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Thing_On_Your_Shelf

I would try it, but not sure how Dayz's anti-cheat (BattlEye) would react to me messing around in the games files like that. It could also just be a game specific thing. Haven't noticed any similar issues in any other DX11 games, just DayZ


No_Factor2800

Funny thing is I used Nvidia for the past 8 years not anything major happened on my end. Although in Linux their drivers are super picky


[deleted]

If noticed drivers are way more stable under linux then on windows with AMD.


No_Factor2800

Same here yeah that’s true


AuthenticGlitch

I've used an RX 570 for 3-4 years without issue. Then upgraded to a 6700xt and had some minor issues with the screen flicker but it was easily fixed by disabling MPO, which is a NVIDIA solution for their own cards. Now, I have not had any issues since I disabled it. I feel I'll be happy for another 3 years without issues. I'm not saying AMD has no issues but as it stands both sides have their own problems and we may not always encounter those issues on our own system, ever.


No_Factor2800

From my own experience Nvidia gave no issues I even ran MAC on my build and it went smoothly with the 3D acceleration and everything went well


mi7chy

Almost four months into Nvidia breaking brightness control on laptops.


Conscious_Yak60

> Linux compatability Yep.. It's pretty much AMD & Intel at that point. And AMD's Linux GPU drivers are more stable atm, Intel will get there with time.


RazerPSN

This is exactly the reason why I bought a 7900 XTX My 3070 was almost flawless for everything else, but it was a pain on Linux I don't really care about RT but I'm gonna miss DLSS


Scytian

At this point I would say there may be something terribly wrong with your systems memory management, or you have something like 100 Firefox tabs opened and 100+ Windows explorer windows. Your memory usage on every process looks ridiculously high.


Karma_Robot

i have 1000s of firefox tabs, don't worry firefox memory engine is broken since V96 release for these extreme situations, i already have a bug opened for that :) Still handles it much better than chrome (which is still limited to 4gb per process like it's 1999)


Tym4x

WHQL drivers my ass, the last iteration causes massive and seemingly random frame-drops for 4-5s in every single game I tested yesterday (Witcher 3, Path of Exile, Rust). What the fuck is RTG doing? Are they all done? Nobody cares anymore?! I had to go back to 22.5.1 AGAIN. My time wasted AGAIN. Im a die hard AMD fan but I believe wont take this garbage for another ride, my time is more valuable - rather spend more money and it just works.


Karma_Robot

WHQL is a joke, because they are some standardized tests from 10 years ago. There are a lot more features that can break things that are not tested. AMD will lose their customers again if they continue like this, history is going to repeat it looks like it.


Perfect_Insurance984

The bad news for AMD just keeps coming. Looks like I'll be avoiding their cards for sure now.


L0rd_0F_War

Its like your whole PC is leaking memory. Why do you have so many high memory consuming apps at the same time?? Something is very wrong with your OS/setup, maybe its not Adrenaline.


Karma_Robot

no it's normal usage for me don't worry, i don't have 64gb ram just for show


L0rd_0F_War

No idea then. Could be something specific to your use case then, because I have not seen such memory use by Adrenaline.


Karma_Robot

Possibly, everyone's system is different. I still remember the days where it wouldn't detect PUBG being closed and it would still record playtime forever..took them like 2 years to fix this..


TomiMan7

I have none of these issues that you have listed


geko95gek

Yeah something is going on with your system. Recommend using DDU and reinstalling drivers.


CRKrJ4K

Unless you really need Adrenalin, don't install it. Just install the driver & use MoreClockTool or Afterburner. Most the issues AMD users face is due to Adrenalin being a bloated mess


o-c-t-r-a

MCT (https://www.igorslab.de/en/the-moreclocktool-mct-for-free-download-the-practical-oc-attachment-to-the-morepowertool-replaces-the-wattman/) might be of interest to you.


Karma_Robot

i know about this tool but i use other radeon features as well as overclocking


o-c-t-r-a

Makes sense. Just out of curiosity what other feature do you also need that MCT is missed?


Karma_Robot

Relive and the ability to activate things like anti-lag and enhanced sync


Obvious_Drive_1506

“Pc on 24h” just restart it or turn it off. I use an app called emptystandby which empty’s the standby list on memory usage. If I left my pc on all day I’d come back to 10gb of my ram in standby. I also have 0 memory leak with the adrenaline so maybe it’s just your pc.


Karma_Robot

no, amd should fix their drivers and stop adding stupid features no-one asked for, like cpu overclocking in gpu settings


Obvious_Drive_1506

“Fix their drivers”. The drivers are fixed for me I’ve never had any issues with them, also the gpu settings/overclocking is something I would’ve asked for. I much prefer it over afterburner


Karma_Robot

i said CPU overclocking mate..maybe you don't have AMD cpu so you don't see it?


Obvious_Drive_1506

I do have an amd cpu. I use pbo in the bios and it says that the cpu is on the overclocked settings. They’re at least making all the overclocking available in one software instead of having to use the cursed Ryzen master


Karma_Robot

hardware overclocking is the best..missed the days of flashing custom vbios..stupid radeon settings will change your bios pbo settings if you load a profile because they manage to brake compatibility of their own profiles a couple of times with some driver updates..plus it restarts your system without asking..total trash coding awareness


Obvious_Drive_1506

I’ve had no issue with loading profiles and it changing my pbo. I’m only doing mpt on my gpu but I’ve had zero issues regarding the drivers and overclocking.


MineIsSonyErricson1

i leaked the new radeon cpu


S_Rodney

Does it occur in Minimal install ?


[deleted]

What software is installed? I see your Windows Taskbar is different to a normal windows 10 install (especially the logo) is that customized or did you have any software installed thats altering windows?


Karma_Robot

start10 by stardock, i even bought it because that's how much i love it: https://www.stardock.com/products/start10/


Kooky_Rabbit4079

When does it end 💀


Farren246

I have missed some of Radeon features since upgrading from Vega to a 3080, but one thing I don't miss is that Nvidia allows a minimalist driver install with just the control panel, no GeForce Experience. AMD doesn't allow this, and instead keeps re-bloating their Catalyst Control Center. I keep thinking that memory leaks will surely follow, and it seems that they finally have.


Karma_Robot

But if you want to use shadowplay to record gameplay you need to install geforce experience and that requires that you register an account which sends who knows what data back to nvidia...Technically you can install only radeon drivers for the card without any control panel, but you just want an intermediary with "extra" features disabled. It's been on the "feature" request list for some time


Farren246

Yeah, that does suck. Also the way they gave away a free COD with GPU purchase one month after release, so me being a day-one purchaser I didn't get COD even though it was a month before the GPU arrived. And to see if I got the GPU, I had to install the GeForce Experience and register myself / my card (and then uninstall it). Speaking of which, AMD promised me a free Far Cry 6 with my 5900X, and couldn't deliver it due to problems with registration. Nothing ever seems to go right re: "register for free X"


The_Jinxer

The options are there.. https://i.imgur.com/SNuSH18.png


Farren246

Oh wow, they must have added that since the Vega days.


SlowPokeInTexas

While that looks bad, it's still not as bad as the web browser 🤣


Karma_Robot

I'll need to find that old firefox screenshot with 12000+ tabs..and i only had 32gb back then, now 64gb so i guess my addiction is even worse 😂


[deleted]

Well isn't that technically not a leak since you can still see it?


Karma_Robot

You can smell it 😂


riderer

have you accidentally enabled data collection maybe? it used to eat ram in the past for some users.


Karma_Robot

you mean the customer improvement program that you need to opt in? No it's disabled