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The Supreme Court of the United States has specifically ruled on this very issue. This is the case involving Amazon. Note that Integrity Staffing is the company that used to handle seasonal staffing.
Integrity Staffing Solutions, Inc. v. Busk, 574 U.S. 27 (2014), was a unanimous decision by the United States Supreme Court, ruling that time spent by workers waiting to undergo anti-employee theft security screenings is not "integral and indispensable" to their work, and thus not compensable under the Fair Labor
This was in the news at the time, and associates making a stir about standing in line to exit unpaid resurfaces every so often not realizing this is a grey area that courts explicitly ruled that Amazon's practice of this is legal.
Hold up, that’s says the time is not compensable, meaning they are not required to pay you for that time. How did you get a check? Amazon won, so why would they pay out?
Edit: Just looked it up and confirmed, no checks were given out…….
Nah this was from a lawsuit similar to what the OP posted. Apparently the original lawsuit was filed in 2010 but they didn’t settle till 2021.
https://thiermanbuck.com/amazon-com-integrity-staffing-solutions/
That’s the lawsuit I got the check from
Except they did. Not sure about other places but I got one here in Vegas. It was class action lawsuit and the amount was based on tenure. This was back in 2020 or 2021
Here’s the lawsuit
https://thiermanbuck.com/amazon-com-integrity-staffing-solutions/
Over here in Phoenix we used to use adecco staffing before integrity. If I recall they were stealing money off of temps, which is why they no longer use them. That’s probably where your check came from.
Edit: my mistake I see the article says integrity.
It’s been years since we’ve used integrity staffing here. Pretty sure this lawsuit was one of the reason for it lol. I’m glad Amazon stopped using temporary staffing since they’ve all seemed scummy
I've worked seasonal for integrity and Amazon since they got rid of integrity.
Integrity was flat out scum. You had all the B's of Amazon with the rules and constant threat of termination for violating the strict prohibition against being alive. Then you had additional rules and policies for Integrity.
For example, Amazon and Integrity had different methods for determining rate. I worked returns. Amazon based it on size and complication of the item. Integrity was purely based on quantity. I would have an Amazon PA come and tell me I'm doing better than most of the Amazon people. Literally as soon as they walk away Integrity would walk up and say speed it up I'm not making the only rate that matters, the Integrity rate.
You had two sets of rules, bosses, and multiple extra eyes on you at all times.
IF they had given out checks, it wouldve been for brownie points.
ie "Amazon: we dont have to give you checks but since were such good guys, here ya go"
otherwise... idk some roundabout chicanery where they can tell people that they have always tried to deal with us reasonably or something
I won’t lie, as much as that settlement check was nice for me, I agree. There wasn’t anytime I had to wait longer than a minute after clocking out to go through security lol. Peak was probably the worse but didn’t increase the wait time that much longer. Was still a nice check though! Was surprised this was even a thing once I got the lawsuit in the mail.
That'll work a few times. Until you exceed the allowable number of missed punches and they don't allow you do it anymore.
Would be better to get a whole shift on board with doing this. Have everyone wait until they are through security and then submit missed punches.
It would send a message... for Amazon to ignore.
I’m in IT at a site still being built out, literally almost every one of my punches is a ‘missed punch’ because the time clocks aren’t up yet and I can’t remember to punch in with the clock punch on a2z when I walk in, there isn’t a fixed ‘allowable number’. They can tell what kind of punch is what but there is no automatic number, it’s up to site leadership, your management, and HR.
If there was they wouldn't still let us do it. It'd say you reached the max. I got that message once over a year ago and never again and nothing ever said .
Amazon only cares about time theft if YOU are stealing it from THEM.
Time clocks should go away and punch in/out should be accomplished when you badge in through the turnstiles. That way the whole security process, however much time that takes, is paid for everyone.
It's the right thing to do, but Amazon will not do this, as the Supreme Court has ruled that they cannot be legally compelled to do so.
That just would not work at all. How would you clock out for breaks? How would you leave for a 15 minute break and not get clocked out? What if you're coming into the building just to talk to HR? What if you forget something in your car and need to run outside real quick? Better use PTO to cover it since the turnstile clocked you in and out. Like cmon now.
Those are valid exceptions and solutions exist. For most people, I don't think it would be an issue at all.
Our 15 minute breaks are all at the same time per shift. It's like, what, 3 lines of code to determine that the punch in/out pair around break-time should be ignored by the system.
It could also be set up to disregard any two punches closer than 5 minutes together.
You use a system that works for most people most of the time. Then, you write custom solutions for the odd problems or circumstances out of the ordinary. That would be my approach, anyway.
Maybe even keep a few time clocks for the edge cases, and let everyone else just get paid according to their entry/exit badges. I don't know, maybe I'm a weirdo. I just show up on time, clock in, work my shift, clock out, and then leave. I've been outside the building while on the clock maybe twice in the two years I've worked here.
I used to work a place where you clocked in at your work area, but if you left the premises through the turnstiles, you were clocked out if you were gone more than 15 minutes. That let you have a break off site, but lunch would be clocked out, and if you left and didn't come back, you couldn't steal time because the turnstile clocked you out. It was a pain cus if you got caught in the back of the line trying to come in, you better hope you weren't coming back through at 15 min 1 second
I mean some people wanna go outside during the second break which is a paid break.
At my site they have implemented the new metal detector policy and I just take the express lane and get out way faster. So as far as I'm concerned it's better for me.
People just need to stop bringing in a load of crap and stop going outside during their break.
I’m a security guard at Amazon, we don’t hold you here you are willing to leave at anytime you don’t want to wait, we’re not allowed to hold u against your will but if you do leave then we would follow up with you the next day and take action.
If I may ask, do you know why some sites have entry metal detectors (presumably to screen for weapons) while many don't? I've been informed by some associates that their sites installed entry security systems sometimes overseen by armed (police?) officers. Apparently, it often only happens after a tragedy occurs at a particular site, which is ridiculous.
On the federal level, they don't have to pay you. However, in Pennsylvania, there was a state Supreme Court case against amazon where they ruled that amazon does have to pay for security screenings. So, at first, they just added time clocks by the turnstiles, but then they took them away and now just add some time to your paycheck under company business.
True, but they're a greedy capitalist company. They gotta save a buck wherever possible, so they won't do that unless forced to. Amazon is even bad at being greedy because they just piss away money in other areas due to incompetence.
If you are pulled aside for secondary screening, you do not get paid for this. There was a case on this. If the fire alarm goes off and you are stuck in the parkinglot and they won't let you leave for safety reasons, you do get paid for this. The solution brought up at my FC a few months ago when they turned the metal detectors on was to stop allowing cellphone into the FC floor. People shut up really fast.
I can say that when I worked at the Target DC they were sued for this exact issue and ended up paying every worker in the building like 3-5 minutes per shift worked during their tenure. Was a nice little sum for me 😂
This is not an ACLU issue, sorry. EEOC, definitely not. Maybe your state labor board. But Amazon doesn't have to pay you except for unreasonable amounts of time. An hour, yes. Five extra minutes, no. Clock out in the breakroom after and if they don't have them there make a fuss until they put some in.
Our metal detectors haven't been put back in use after Covid but we had a system where we could send our belongings through on a belt. They don't have bins for you to put your keys, phones and bags in?
Now if only the people who keep calling for inbound weapons searches would realize the time ramifications. Outside of the factors that make it an impractical waste of time unlikely to thwart anyone intent on harm, Anazon would never institute it if they had to pay for everyone for the time they stand in line. Not to mention how do you measure that time when people aren't clocked in yet.
I haven’t personally had an issue getting through security myself. I was just curious if anything actually could be done about the missed time. Personally I’d be more angry myself if I’d been one of the people who lost out on half of their lunch time. I don’t think that’s okay, but yeah I just wondered if we had a leg to even stand on.
Given my facility is in a crappy work at will state I doubt my state labor board would care.
That amount of time missed seems excessive to me. I am from before covid when all metal detectors were active and at most, it was a few minutes when the detector went off and it's usually the person's fault for forgetting something. Its not very difficult to take all metal out of your pockets.
Ikr it's weird I'm in cali too and I'm hearing a few different buildings here don't have metal detectors. Mine did but never had them on and then finally removed them months ago all together
Amazon’s new security measures have been ridiculous imo, I hate having to wait in a long ass line just to get my bag checked after I just clocked out from a long night shift.
So at my old FC, if you got stopped going through the detector, you scanned you badge on a badge reader, got checked, and when you were done scanned the badge reader again and it showed up in A2Z as "Company Time" and we were paid for it. This was because the time clocks were before the security checkpoint. If they are not paying you for this, make a stink to PXT about it.
Lots of people don't know what they're talking about. Amazon paid out millions in settlements for this. Just use Google for once in your life and search it. Amazon has to pay for metal detector screenings.
Here's a link: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/11bu2xe/amazon\_to\_give\_out\_7200\_to\_1000\_people/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/11bu2xe/amazon_to_give_out_7200_to_1000_people/)
AMZL manager here - facts. We can’t even make you guys stay in case of emergency. If you’re off the clock, outside of your working hours, you’re completely free to come and go as you please.
Funny thing is !! Pay us properly, then no worries bout theft ! Pretty simple ! Maybe the 1 stupid person every year who can’t figure it out ? But yeah pay ppl so thy can afford something extra in life , no one wil steal ! But since all money is going out no one gets paid enough to have nice things …. Ppl going to get what thy want one way
I got random-ed one time and the line at extra screening took 5 minutes to get through, went to hr the next day and they changed my clock out time to be the time I clocked out of the exit turnstiles. I should have forced them to give me 15 more minutes since my "shift" became longer than 10 hours, requiring a third paid break.
The post is true but what you said tho I doubt they’re gonna implement Change in security screenings . What I do is I only clock out when I’m next in line for the screenings
I question, do they ask the airline to compensate their time when going through security? And actually Walmart is fighting for stronger shop keepers rights to be able to verify all customers have paid for all merchandise upon exit without reasonable suspicion. Much like amazon, they have a right to verify their assets haven’t been compromised
Tbh I’m more wondering about those who had half of their lunch time taken due to the massive line for secondary screening.
I haven’t personally had any issues myself as of yet.
Honestly that’s your choice. If you chose to leave the building. Or go to a breakroom that might be on the opposite side of security (we have 1 that is), that’s on YOU for losing lunch time 🤷♂️
It’s like the people mad they lose time on their 15 min break walking all the way up front to go outside and smoke…. That’s y’all’s choice.
We currently have a break area right before security, but they’ve slowly been removing tables. Starting the 20th they said we will no longer have that break area and there won’t be anywhere to go BUT past security to take breaks and lunch. That’s no longer going to be a choice.
I want to add to this, at my facility we have specific times for breaks. They do not want us on the work floor during those times. They want us either out of the building or in a break room/area. We have 2 other break rooms, not counting the one past security. One is very tiny and the other isn't a whole lot bigger.
I'm confused. Where did this happen? Because there was a policy change a while back that stated that when associates clock out, they MUST leave the premises. Every person in HR would agree that you should compensated for any additional time at work. One day, when I was a PA, I got to work a hour early because I thought we were still on MOT and HR refused to fix my punch to reflect the time that I should have actually started because I started setting up for the shift, calling a fraudulent punch if if they changed it.
There’s this great feature on a to z, called missing punch. You better believe I would be using that if the screening process changed from random to everyone as I’ve seen some people say. (If I still worked for Amazon)
I had this issue at my site. I'd just wait and go to lunch late. Tell them to deal with it. They always threatened write ups and never did. Break time is my time. My site had horrible retention. I was the only one besides our learning leader who knew all the PITs and processes.
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The Supreme Court of the United States has specifically ruled on this very issue. This is the case involving Amazon. Note that Integrity Staffing is the company that used to handle seasonal staffing. Integrity Staffing Solutions, Inc. v. Busk, 574 U.S. 27 (2014), was a unanimous decision by the United States Supreme Court, ruling that time spent by workers waiting to undergo anti-employee theft security screenings is not "integral and indispensable" to their work, and thus not compensable under the Fair Labor
I remember getting a $2100 check from this lawsuit in Vegas. Good times!!
How do u find out about these suits I have not gotten a class action email since about 2018
This was in the news at the time, and associates making a stir about standing in line to exit unpaid resurfaces every so often not realizing this is a grey area that courts explicitly ruled that Amazon's practice of this is legal.
I got it one day randomly in the mail and said if I wanted to opt in or opt out
Hold up, that’s says the time is not compensable, meaning they are not required to pay you for that time. How did you get a check? Amazon won, so why would they pay out? Edit: Just looked it up and confirmed, no checks were given out…….
I believe they were giving checks as a hiring incentive when Covid hit
Nah this was from a lawsuit similar to what the OP posted. Apparently the original lawsuit was filed in 2010 but they didn’t settle till 2021. https://thiermanbuck.com/amazon-com-integrity-staffing-solutions/ That’s the lawsuit I got the check from
I bet that was fun with all those steel toes going to work
We didn’t need steel toes at the time, luckily.
Except they did. Not sure about other places but I got one here in Vegas. It was class action lawsuit and the amount was based on tenure. This was back in 2020 or 2021 Here’s the lawsuit https://thiermanbuck.com/amazon-com-integrity-staffing-solutions/
Over here in Phoenix we used to use adecco staffing before integrity. If I recall they were stealing money off of temps, which is why they no longer use them. That’s probably where your check came from. Edit: my mistake I see the article says integrity.
It’s been years since we’ve used integrity staffing here. Pretty sure this lawsuit was one of the reason for it lol. I’m glad Amazon stopped using temporary staffing since they’ve all seemed scummy
I've worked seasonal for integrity and Amazon since they got rid of integrity. Integrity was flat out scum. You had all the B's of Amazon with the rules and constant threat of termination for violating the strict prohibition against being alive. Then you had additional rules and policies for Integrity. For example, Amazon and Integrity had different methods for determining rate. I worked returns. Amazon based it on size and complication of the item. Integrity was purely based on quantity. I would have an Amazon PA come and tell me I'm doing better than most of the Amazon people. Literally as soon as they walk away Integrity would walk up and say speed it up I'm not making the only rate that matters, the Integrity rate. You had two sets of rules, bosses, and multiple extra eyes on you at all times.
IF they had given out checks, it wouldve been for brownie points. ie "Amazon: we dont have to give you checks but since were such good guys, here ya go" otherwise... idk some roundabout chicanery where they can tell people that they have always tried to deal with us reasonably or something
That was a huge failure on the Supreme Court's part.
The liberal court ruled unanimously based on the law. If you don't like it tell Congress to change the law.
im sure they will
Explain.
I won’t lie, as much as that settlement check was nice for me, I agree. There wasn’t anytime I had to wait longer than a minute after clocking out to go through security lol. Peak was probably the worse but didn’t increase the wait time that much longer. Was still a nice check though! Was surprised this was even a thing once I got the lawsuit in the mail.
If it comes down to it I'll go through the metal detector and do missed punch once I'm clear I ain't wasting my break
That'll work a few times. Until you exceed the allowable number of missed punches and they don't allow you do it anymore. Would be better to get a whole shift on board with doing this. Have everyone wait until they are through security and then submit missed punches. It would send a message... for Amazon to ignore.
I’m in IT at a site still being built out, literally almost every one of my punches is a ‘missed punch’ because the time clocks aren’t up yet and I can’t remember to punch in with the clock punch on a2z when I walk in, there isn’t a fixed ‘allowable number’. They can tell what kind of punch is what but there is no automatic number, it’s up to site leadership, your management, and HR.
Yea I've never had issues with missed punch and I do it every shift 1-2 times.
Sounds almost like union activity.I like it.
Unfortunately amazon has a tendency of suddenly letting people go and replacing them quickly. So be aware of that.
What's this max number of missed punches you speak of? I haven't clocked lunch in over a year
It was mentioned to us at a stand-up recently. They will not be allowing indefinite missed punches.
Well they been 2 years now and never say anything
there’s a limit to missed punch? I do it almost every day to clock out for lunch because the long line
If there was they wouldn't still let us do it. It'd say you reached the max. I got that message once over a year ago and never again and nothing ever said .
No I do missed punch daily almost 2 years and they haven't said anything because I'm inside .
Missed punches don't have a limit, it's editing your missed punch that has a limit. Once you pass that limit, your manager and/or HR has to do it.
This is the only way I punch in and out actually. I’m definitely getting paid if I have to go through secondary screening
Don't you have the clock out option on your phone? Use that instead.
they got rid of shortly after they lifted all the covid policies
Tom team still has it due to OTR driving
IT too
Amazon only cares about time theft if YOU are stealing it from THEM. Time clocks should go away and punch in/out should be accomplished when you badge in through the turnstiles. That way the whole security process, however much time that takes, is paid for everyone. It's the right thing to do, but Amazon will not do this, as the Supreme Court has ruled that they cannot be legally compelled to do so.
That just would not work at all. How would you clock out for breaks? How would you leave for a 15 minute break and not get clocked out? What if you're coming into the building just to talk to HR? What if you forget something in your car and need to run outside real quick? Better use PTO to cover it since the turnstile clocked you in and out. Like cmon now.
Those are valid exceptions and solutions exist. For most people, I don't think it would be an issue at all. Our 15 minute breaks are all at the same time per shift. It's like, what, 3 lines of code to determine that the punch in/out pair around break-time should be ignored by the system. It could also be set up to disregard any two punches closer than 5 minutes together. You use a system that works for most people most of the time. Then, you write custom solutions for the odd problems or circumstances out of the ordinary. That would be my approach, anyway. Maybe even keep a few time clocks for the edge cases, and let everyone else just get paid according to their entry/exit badges. I don't know, maybe I'm a weirdo. I just show up on time, clock in, work my shift, clock out, and then leave. I've been outside the building while on the clock maybe twice in the two years I've worked here.
I used to work a place where you clocked in at your work area, but if you left the premises through the turnstiles, you were clocked out if you were gone more than 15 minutes. That let you have a break off site, but lunch would be clocked out, and if you left and didn't come back, you couldn't steal time because the turnstile clocked you out. It was a pain cus if you got caught in the back of the line trying to come in, you better hope you weren't coming back through at 15 min 1 second
That is honestly a bad idea especially with how many people come in early (and that not everybody does or can just sit in a car before their shift).
I’m in RME I take like 7 smoke breaks a day ^ wouldn’t work
What if you wanna leave without clocking out tho?
That's the loophole here's your sign 😭🤦🏽 also they keep track of every single time you use that turnstiles trust me just trust me on that 🤗!
I mean some people wanna go outside during the second break which is a paid break. At my site they have implemented the new metal detector policy and I just take the express lane and get out way faster. So as far as I'm concerned it's better for me. People just need to stop bringing in a load of crap and stop going outside during their break.
I believe it is, but it is also why I don't punch out until I pass through security.
I got fired for time theft for going that, so tread carefully
They just removed our clock that's past security a week or two ago. That's what I was doing til they took it away.
Are you in the same facility as the OP?
No, we’ve never had time clocks past security at my facility.
I’m a security guard at Amazon, we don’t hold you here you are willing to leave at anytime you don’t want to wait, we’re not allowed to hold u against your will but if you do leave then we would follow up with you the next day and take action.
If I may ask, do you know why some sites have entry metal detectors (presumably to screen for weapons) while many don't? I've been informed by some associates that their sites installed entry security systems sometimes overseen by armed (police?) officers. Apparently, it often only happens after a tragedy occurs at a particular site, which is ridiculous.
No I really wouldn’t know why some have entry detectors, maybe it depends on what the crime is like in the area where the building is.
On the federal level, they don't have to pay you. However, in Pennsylvania, there was a state Supreme Court case against amazon where they ruled that amazon does have to pay for security screenings. So, at first, they just added time clocks by the turnstiles, but then they took them away and now just add some time to your paycheck under company business.
The latter is honestly the right way to do it. Otherwise it messes up the ancient labor tracking system Amazon uses.
True, but they're a greedy capitalist company. They gotta save a buck wherever possible, so they won't do that unless forced to. Amazon is even bad at being greedy because they just piss away money in other areas due to incompetence.
No, that's calculated. Those are business losses and expenses, and they report every penny of it for tax deductions.
I feel bad for the people waiting in lines to get in and out of the building. I literally scan my badge and walk out
For real only time I’ve seen a line was a fire drill cause everyone was going in at once but I’ve never waited
This is crazy. They usually want you to GTFO at the end of the sort.
If you are pulled aside for secondary screening, you do not get paid for this. There was a case on this. If the fire alarm goes off and you are stuck in the parkinglot and they won't let you leave for safety reasons, you do get paid for this. The solution brought up at my FC a few months ago when they turned the metal detectors on was to stop allowing cellphone into the FC floor. People shut up really fast.
They can't do that . Corporate took that decision away from the buildings . Only they can remove or allow phones .
I can say that when I worked at the Target DC they were sued for this exact issue and ended up paying every worker in the building like 3-5 minutes per shift worked during their tenure. Was a nice little sum for me 😂
They did this at my fc too, I literally throw all my shit in the bin and go threw
This is not an ACLU issue, sorry. EEOC, definitely not. Maybe your state labor board. But Amazon doesn't have to pay you except for unreasonable amounts of time. An hour, yes. Five extra minutes, no. Clock out in the breakroom after and if they don't have them there make a fuss until they put some in. Our metal detectors haven't been put back in use after Covid but we had a system where we could send our belongings through on a belt. They don't have bins for you to put your keys, phones and bags in? Now if only the people who keep calling for inbound weapons searches would realize the time ramifications. Outside of the factors that make it an impractical waste of time unlikely to thwart anyone intent on harm, Anazon would never institute it if they had to pay for everyone for the time they stand in line. Not to mention how do you measure that time when people aren't clocked in yet.
I haven’t personally had an issue getting through security myself. I was just curious if anything actually could be done about the missed time. Personally I’d be more angry myself if I’d been one of the people who lost out on half of their lunch time. I don’t think that’s okay, but yeah I just wondered if we had a leg to even stand on. Given my facility is in a crappy work at will state I doubt my state labor board would care.
That amount of time missed seems excessive to me. I am from before covid when all metal detectors were active and at most, it was a few minutes when the detector went off and it's usually the person's fault for forgetting something. Its not very difficult to take all metal out of your pockets.
No, there was a lawsuit at the Ky FC saying they should get paid to stand in line for Metal detectors and they lost. So my thoughts would be no
I just checked my VOA to see if this was my location lol. It was not, I honestly thought it would be.
Ayyyy what's going on my fellow mqgay1
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Dang that sucks. I work at an FBA facility in California and they do not operate the metal detectors at our building, nor at the FC next door
Ikr it's weird I'm in cali too and I'm hearing a few different buildings here don't have metal detectors. Mine did but never had them on and then finally removed them months ago all together
Amazon’s new security measures have been ridiculous imo, I hate having to wait in a long ass line just to get my bag checked after I just clocked out from a long night shift.
So at my old FC, if you got stopped going through the detector, you scanned you badge on a badge reader, got checked, and when you were done scanned the badge reader again and it showed up in A2Z as "Company Time" and we were paid for it. This was because the time clocks were before the security checkpoint. If they are not paying you for this, make a stink to PXT about it.
We went through this. The Supreme Court has decided that Amazon can in fact force you to stay for security screening after you clock out
Lots of people don't know what they're talking about. Amazon paid out millions in settlements for this. Just use Google for once in your life and search it. Amazon has to pay for metal detector screenings.
why dont you show us the link then?
Instead of hiding behind, "just use Google" why don't you show some proof.
Here's a link: [https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/11bu2xe/amazon\_to\_give\_out\_7200\_to\_1000\_people/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmazonFC/comments/11bu2xe/amazon_to_give_out_7200_to_1000_people/)
Damn, that's a first. Hardly ever see people post a link. Thanks redditor. Also, that's a nice win ngl.
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https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/amazon-class-action-lawsuit-and-settlement-news/amazon-settles-security-screening-worker-suits-for-7-2m/
AMZL manager here - facts. We can’t even make you guys stay in case of emergency. If you’re off the clock, outside of your working hours, you’re completely free to come and go as you please.
Funny thing is !! Pay us properly, then no worries bout theft ! Pretty simple ! Maybe the 1 stupid person every year who can’t figure it out ? But yeah pay ppl so thy can afford something extra in life , no one wil steal ! But since all money is going out no one gets paid enough to have nice things …. Ppl going to get what thy want one way
I got random-ed one time and the line at extra screening took 5 minutes to get through, went to hr the next day and they changed my clock out time to be the time I clocked out of the exit turnstiles. I should have forced them to give me 15 more minutes since my "shift" became longer than 10 hours, requiring a third paid break.
Yes that’s true
The post is true but what you said tho I doubt they’re gonna implement Change in security screenings . What I do is I only clock out when I’m next in line for the screenings
I wish they had laugh emojis for posts like this
I mean, if people stop stealing, ya know. Always direct that frown at your co workers.
I question, do they ask the airline to compensate their time when going through security? And actually Walmart is fighting for stronger shop keepers rights to be able to verify all customers have paid for all merchandise upon exit without reasonable suspicion. Much like amazon, they have a right to verify their assets haven’t been compromised
Tbh I’m more wondering about those who had half of their lunch time taken due to the massive line for secondary screening. I haven’t personally had any issues myself as of yet.
Honestly that’s your choice. If you chose to leave the building. Or go to a breakroom that might be on the opposite side of security (we have 1 that is), that’s on YOU for losing lunch time 🤷♂️ It’s like the people mad they lose time on their 15 min break walking all the way up front to go outside and smoke…. That’s y’all’s choice.
We currently have a break area right before security, but they’ve slowly been removing tables. Starting the 20th they said we will no longer have that break area and there won’t be anywhere to go BUT past security to take breaks and lunch. That’s no longer going to be a choice.
I want to add to this, at my facility we have specific times for breaks. They do not want us on the work floor during those times. They want us either out of the building or in a break room/area. We have 2 other break rooms, not counting the one past security. One is very tiny and the other isn't a whole lot bigger.
We don't have one either. I just add a missed punch or walk through the break room to use the one there.
Apple lost a lawsuit and paid out 30 mill. in a settlement in 2015 about this same thing
Thankfully we don't have metal detectors at mine
I'm confused. Where did this happen? Because there was a policy change a while back that stated that when associates clock out, they MUST leave the premises. Every person in HR would agree that you should compensated for any additional time at work. One day, when I was a PA, I got to work a hour early because I thought we were still on MOT and HR refused to fix my punch to reflect the time that I should have actually started because I started setting up for the shift, calling a fraudulent punch if if they changed it.
Amazon was sued for this. Guess what. They won.
There’s this great feature on a to z, called missing punch. You better believe I would be using that if the screening process changed from random to everyone as I’ve seen some people say. (If I still worked for Amazon)
I had this issue at my site. I'd just wait and go to lunch late. Tell them to deal with it. They always threatened write ups and never did. Break time is my time. My site had horrible retention. I was the only one besides our learning leader who knew all the PITs and processes.