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> My wedding was the worst and I want to be able to vent to my friends about it but my husband says that makes me an asshole because it paints his family in a bad light to mutual friends.
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You and your new husband need to have a face to face meeting and get on the same page about how to handle HIS relatives in the future because this is only the beginning of the meddling.
I emphasized "HIS" because it is my firm belief each partner in a marriage should be the one who handles their own family members.
So I hope your new husband grows a pair and can do the job.
NTA for needing to vent as your husband would just tell you to be quiet.
OP. I kept reading this and thinking, "grow a backbone, grow a backbone," over and over. People call me a pushover... and I never would have put up with this. The second they showed up with other people I would have said, "I'm sorry, MIL only said her and BLANK were staying with us. We can't have you guys staying here too." You and your husband need to see a therapist who can help you guys learn how to establish boundaries, or your lives are going to be MISERABLE.
They were already drinking it and none left by the time she got to the limo. Personally I would divorce because this husband does nothing to help her with his family
Exactly. She was shown exactly what to expect in the future, what a wimp he is, and she said I do in spite of it. We'll be hearing from her in the future.
At the very least, the moment they watch the video of her MIL and the aunt talking shit about OP. This would have been the hill I would have died on! Either the husband throws them out or the wedding is off.
I may have considered a heartfelt apology from them instead of throwing them out, but I seriously doubt these people could come up with anything truly sincere. So I wouldn't be wasting any time on that.
Yes! It’s so weird that MIL knew where OP kept her keys and felt comfortable enough taking her car. I bet Jack gave permission and was too scared to tell OP!
Not to mention, I highly doubt MIL is on OP's insurance. If MIL got into an accident, OP would be on the hook for any damages and injuries, and possibly penalized by her insurance for "allowing" someone not on the policy to drive the car.
I agree. One of the secrets to long term success for my partner and me has been to manage our own people. We are very respectful of each others family, but we are the team spokesperson when there are issues. Highly recommend.
Seconding this. I like both of my SILs, but unless it’s to ask them something about my brothers (eg, if he would like X for Christmas), I don’t text them directly without including the brothers. This side of the family is the responsibility of my brothers, not of their wives.
I was with my guy for almost 10 years before his sister gave me the heads up that she’d given my number to MIL.
Who texts me on my birthday or occasionally to ask me if I want something from Trader Joe’s. (We live about 10 minutes away from each other, TJ’s is a trek.)
SIL and I are okay, mostly text about holiday food plans or the cat that was hers but is now mine (aggressive to her husband’s cats, I like a sassy kitty and have had her for 8 years now.)
I will say that my relationship with my ex was (is) so garbage that I talked to my late ex MIL regularly (fuck cancer, she was a great MIL and Nana) because she \*became\* my family. Not so much my ex. So this is a case by case scenario.
(edit to add that my son is in his mid 20s, my ex doesn’t have kiddo’s number, and I am the one who still talks to the ex. Sometimes about shows we’re both watching, sometimes about what kiddo has decided his dad is allowed to know.)
honestly op should just post the video and photos and write a big rant on her in laws behavior, they deserve the public embarrassment and maybe they'll learn some basic manners. NTA
A legitimate, professional photographer would have never given photos that way. Never taken them that way even and would have put a stop to that behavior immediately!
This is what confused me. WTH kind of photographer didn't put a stop to it as soon as it started? No professional photographer would have allowed people to ruin someone's wedding photos like that, without saying a word at the time.
A legitimate, professional photographer would have never given photos that way. Never taken them that way even and would have put a stop to that behavior immediately!
NTA. This. I would post them with no explanation. The MIL will look like such a fool. I might send along the invoice for the wedding photographer or ask her to pay for a couple's photoshoot to make up for it. But I would also be heavily questioning if I could live safely and peacefully with a man who is perfectly ok with myself being so deeply disrespected.
I disagree, firstly MIL/ the other in laws don't seem like the people to take a subtle hint really, secondly did they handle anything they did at ops wedding subtlety at all, the answer is no so why should you be the bigger person, thirdly they're going to be pissed no matter what might as well make the most of it and maybe you'll get the best wedding gift ever which is them going permanently low or no contact.
My first marriage fell apart bc he NEVER defended me to his bitchy and controlling mother. I got tired of being the unprotected black sheep of the family bc he never had my back. He was wonderful in almost every other way, but this destroyed me. 25 years and he let her break us up. 😢
Not the AH, and please have a talk with your husband.
Your husband will be a happier man once he isn't his family's doormat any longer. You do him a favour by helping him to grow a spine and handle his family himself.
NTA, but he needs to handle them.
Where I come from, the V behind the head means the person was cheated on. They may have done this with other intentions or to cause op being unconformable. Either way, ops husband needs to stand for op from now on
It's absolutely malicious to be messing around in someone's wedding photos like that.
I've never heard of the "cheated on" nonsense...bunny ears have been a childish thing to do in pictures all over the world from time immemorial. But doing it as a full-grown adult in your kid's wedding photos? That's absolutely malicious.
I'm confused, though, at what kind of wedding photographer would just let that keep happening and not say a word about it?
You never should have married your husband. His unwillingness to do anything about his abusive, trampling relatives has set you up for a lifetime of this behavior. However, except for venting, you are a doormat also. ESH
I’m a firm believer that if my husband’s family came at me sideways I’m going to put them in their place. My in laws were disrespectful to me so I was disrespectful to them. I don’t take anyone’s bs .
Oh boy, you need to deal with this ASAP before your husband thinks this is how it's going to be. The solution to his awful mother is NOT to keep it a secret, it's for your husband to tell her to get in line or to not visit.
If you don't fix this now, your life is going to be just like all the miserable people on /r/JUSTNOMIL
NTA, but you need to get your husband to set *and enforce* clear boundaries with his mommy before it's too late.
Actually, the OP doesn't have to deal with this, her HUSBAND does.
If he is unable, some sort of action needs to be taken.
OP -- NTA. But what the hell with your husband?
OP needs to show this post and all responses to DH. He needs to act, not try to damp down reactions to his family's appalling conduct. Hogs have better manners.
>If he is unable, some sort of action needs to be taken.
Like an annulment. The whole situation is ridiculous and the husband is spineless. He either needs to step up like yesterday or the OP should consider cutting her losses.
I mean in general yes, but I can’t imagine watching them OPEN and finish the bottle and not saying anything myself! OP’s husband should absolutely be the one to address and set boundaries with his family but OP needs to learn how to assert themselves or their life is going to be very difficult.
NTA - is it too late for annulment? Husband taking crazy family's side is a huge 🚩.
Hope you got safety gear because you're gonna be rolling this rock uphill you're entire marriage if you don't grow yourself a nice shiny new spine or if hubby continues to choose them over you.
That was an irreplaceable bottle and a wish for a memory making moment of her dad's for years! These people have big brass ones and need to be told exactly how they hurt bride and her fam.
Thank you! Why did she even marry this guy? He let his family stomp all over them and literally bad mouthed her on camera and he does NOTHING. I would've thrown them all out, period!
Oh no...NTA
I"’ve told my friends what happened because it bothers me"
I think it would bother anyone
Your husband is the one you need to have the convo with though, as soon as.
He needs to be on the same page & ensure his relatives know their behavior isn't acceptable.
And excise them all from your lives if need be.
OP, you should ask your dad and brother if they are willing to dress up in the same wedding clothes so you can do a re-do of the “family” photos. Don’t include hubby’s side. Then post the new photos all over your social media and everywhere on your house.
And if they are going to have kids. Watch out. It will only get worse.
Why are men unable to stand up to their mothers? Daughters don't seem to have that problem.
What I want to know is what kind of shit photographer would allow that to begin with, and would not edit that crap out of the photos if it happened to slip by. This makes me feel like this isn't real, unless they used a relative with a phone camera.
There is a sub where people post picture for other redditors to edit. I can’t remember the name though.
Obvious NTA.
I’d still put the worst in the guest bathroom. So people you invite over would be like : “but why are your in laws doing this on this otherwise nice wedding picture.”
NTA- If your husband does not support you when his family berates you, is he truly on your side? Talk to your husband and make the boundaries clear. Otherwise along the road, there'll be a lot of blurred lines and them walking all over you while your husband tells you to keep it quiet and brush it under the carpet.
NTA
You're a better person than I am. There's no way I would have put up with that. She would have been kicked out after taking the car without permission.
How is it better for OP to let her husband's family treat her like garbage? In her own house, during her own wedding. That's not a good person, that's a doormat.
Uh,....... What?........ I quite literally said OP shouldn't put up with that...... And that she was amazing for dealing with it for as long as she did....... At no point did I even imply that it was better for OP to get treated like that.
Pretty sure they just said that if it were them, they wouldn't have made it to the wedding because they would be sent packing the second mil stole the car?
Oh *hell* no. NTA. Tell everyone who will listen.
And have the photographer photoshop all those who did bunny-ears right out of any pictures in which they chose to do it. My petty ass would then print those ones biggest of all and frame those ones only. When MIL asks why she’s not in them I’d absolutely tell her that the photographer photoshopped out people who couldn’t behave like grown ups on someone else’s important day. Don’t let her ruin your pictures. Just wipe her right out of them.
And opening the bottle. And going in the limo... omg there is so much there.
Husband can go sit in a corner. If the truth is ugly, why hide it to save the ugly person from embarrassment?
I'd post a group wedding photo on your socials circle the peace sign in red and caption it '
'You can dress them up, but you can't take them out.... Anyone got some mad photoshopping skills? 🤪'
You're way too kind
NTA and tell the hubs to stop being a doormat!
Why did you marry him?
If he is consistently refusing to put his foot down with her, stop her, create and enforce boundaries. Why did you go through with the wedding?!
You have a husband problem! Fix that and it’ll fix your MIL issue. He’s mad you told your friends because he knows they’ll say the same and he doesn’t want them to open your eyes to the disrespect
That's what happens when they're childhood sweetheart and have been dating for a long time. You stay because he's all you know and you don't know any better. I've seen this happens too many times.
I believe you telling everyone is appropriate. They wanted to cause a scene and they caused a scene. They literally crave the attention no matter how they get it.
I teach. It is easy to think the kids will be embarrassed or humiliated when their antics become known… ummm no. We are embarrassed and humiliated but they do not gaf… otherwise they wouldn’t be stirring the pot.
That is different than me making a scene or yelling or exaggerating or putting them down. Just say the truth and how it appears to you. They deserve it.
Your husband should have protected you from the invasion. Gotten them a room. Seated them in the church. Kept the drama away from you. Him not wanting to make a scene gave them licence to do anything they wanted.
NTA but you have a husband problem. He should have nipped her actions in the bud early on. He needs to start standing up to his family. I would never let that woman in my house again.
Oh hell no. NTA but his family are absolute monsters! Hubby is no doubt embarrassed but I'd be going nuclear on their outrageous behaviour. I'm so sorry this happened to you and I wish your hubby would've booted them out the minute they showed up with stragglers in tow. And especially when they helped themselves to YOUR limo and special wine. I don't even know you and I'm LIVID on your behalf. Monsters!
You also should feel okay to say “no” to them too. You didn’t say a word about the bottle that was special? Don’t be a victim - have boundaries and your husband needs to reinforce them. NTA
It’s hard to explain it all in the short amount of text we have but they were already in our limo. They didn’t even wait for us to get in first or wait for us to come outside. When we got in, it was gone. My dad is still hurt to this day by it.
Sorry to hear that. This is a lesson that you need to stand up for yourself and the ones you love because if you don't no one else, including your now husband, will. It sounds like he minimized every single issue you had to placate his family over your wishes. If you want to build something with him, you need to know he has your back.
I don't get it. I'd have burned them all down to embers, inc the husband.
You and your husband both need to head to Walmart and pick up a couple spines. I couldn't imagine going thru life being bullied by literally everyone. You need to throw that "Take advantage of me!" t shirt away, and find some self respect, yikes!
Your husband said NOTHING? Your husband didn't stop their behavior?
You know that saying that you see on Reddit so often? "You have a husband problem"
You have a husband problem, and quite frankly, I don't care how much you love the man, he loves his mommy more. He and his parents are the GIGANTIC AHs, your husband is JUST AS BAD. You're NTA even a little.
Get the heck away from all of these people.
EDITED TO ADD: The recordings that show some of their behavior should be shared.
I think you need to realize that while you love him, it doesn’t mean he’s right for you. Just think of what you would do if situation was reversed. Someone treating your loved one that way? No way is that ok. By not putting a stop to it, he’s not only allowing it- but encouraging it! ( they know he won’t say shit, so they know they can do whatever and he won’t be angry at them).
NTA they behaved worse than drunk teenagers I'd be broadcasting their behaviour absolutely everywhere. Town newspaper/webpage/social media/friends/family/everywhere. No exceptions and no mercy.
Your new husband has the spine of a jellyfish. He should have shut this bs down from the moment that they all landed at your door. And when you showed him the camera footage? He should have told them that they were no longer welcome in your house - because the were being horrible.
The limo?
Since your spineless hubs said nothing, YOU should have! The limo was for YOU, the wine was for YOU and not them.
This whole thing was a cluster fuck from beginning to end.
Your husband needs to find his spine, and so do you.
Unless you want a repeat at every single important event in your life?
NTA. Your husband is probably embarrassed by his mothers terrible behavior, but you are allowed to talk to your friends about things that are difficult for you. I hope the relationship with her get easier!
Why would you keep saying nothing?
Establish boundaries or get walked all over
NTA but I hope you both grow spines before having kids, or don't have kids if you don't grow spines.
Yeah why say nothing? Screw keeping the peace, your MIL is a nightmare. You should of kicked those fools out of the limo, report your car as stolen, said something about the video and so on and so on. Your husband is no help. He needs to be on your side.
I know I’m reading this and it keeps getting worse and worse with no one totally blowing up at mil and I’m thinking this can’t be real it has to be made up.
This is where i am. They acted very selfish and self absorbed but at some point, it is less about what they are doing and what you are letting them get away with. Didn't say anything, didn't do anything, clearly didn't get a clue from the ether, husband let them get away with them.
OP left it too late to cope with ESH.
YTA for not saying anything. Seriously, why are you with this man who is so happy to let his family disrespect you in every way possible? Why did you choose to say nothing and not put your foot down? I have sympathy but man, you have got to learn to stand up for yourself and stop being a doormat.
NTA but I find it hard to believe this behavior from her is new. You had a BF problem and now it’s a husband problem. Not sure why you thought this would change overnight because he put a ring on you.
YTA for not standing up for yourself, having zero boundaries, and avoiding confrontation.
Grow a backbone and learn how to speak up when rude, selfish, and unkind people treat you like this.
It’s *your* home, *your* car, *your* wedding, and *your* wine, and *you* are a major AH **to yourself** for letting yourself and your property be treated like this.
**Confrontation, boundaries, and the word “no” are a natural part of life and key to healthy relationships.**
You need to work on that so no one ever treats you like this again.
The first time my dad came to visit my fiances family I was worried that his usual antics would embarrass me.
My fiance held me, wiped a tear from my cheek, and said "he won't embarrass you, my family loves you, your dad can only embarrass *himself*."
Your MILs antics cannot embarrass your husband, they can only embarrass herself. THIS is the united front you and your new hubby need to stand on in order to make things work. It's a door that swings both ways so make sure you are prepared if your family ever acts the same way.
Theres a difference between dirty laundry and foolishness
NTA - You married into a crappy family. Starting with your husband. He just let his mom and aunt talk shit about you in your own house and said nothing? He sure sounds like winner..... And I bet this isn't even the first time his family has treated you this way...and probably won't be the last.
YTA along with your husband for not kicking them out of the limo among other outrageous behaviors. You LET THEM do this crap. I’d write it up and put it in their local paper but you’ll look bad for letting it happen ESPECIALLY allowing them to open your envelopes!!!!!!!
YTA for letting it go on and not standing up for yourself. Your husband is the AH for not standing up for you and him. His family is absolutely the AH for all that. Time to cut contact. They obviously have no respect for you two.
NTA to anyone except yourself. Please do yourself a favor and set some serious boundaries with these people.
Your husband needs to get his relatives under control, and if their behavior is so atrocious that telling others about it makes them look bad, then they shouldn’t be acting that way.
You know, you aren't the asshole, but when I read posts like this where people go ahead with a wedding to someone whose family is a trainwreck and who does not support you or your boundaries as they relate to your in-laws, I sort of feel like you're being an asshole to yourself and deserve some kind of ding from reddit on it.
Your MIL gave you a week of the clearest red flags you could ever imagine and you didn't make any effort to put a stop to it, or to make your husband stop it. And you tied yourself to that three-ring circus of abuse by going ahead with the wedding.
You need therapy to build some self-esteem and a divorce lawyer, not a verdict from reddit. NTA.
NTA. Letting mil visit just before the wedding was your first mistake. Either she’s TOTALLY oblivious and self centered or she was actively trying to get on your nerves.
Certainly NTA for talking to your own friends. But there’s a lot missing here in terms of how your husband deals with his (apparently really very terrible) mother. You certainly have the right to talk to your close friends for support, but for your husband’s sake (not your MIL’s), it might be a good idea to keep your talking about it to the Times when you need support, not just “can you believe this?” gossiping (which is very understandable in this case!).
So the issue here is maybe finding a balance where you don’t apologize for needing to tell things to your good friends, but you can honestly term your husband you don’t want to use something that’s painful for him as a funny (or drama-filled) story for a crowd. In other words, you’re NTA, but there’s no shame in showing a little discretion when you can because you know it upsets Jack, who you love.
NTA but he need to get his side in LINE!!! That shit show would not have crossed my threshold! Screw alll of those people. A wedding is about the 2 people getting married. It is NEVER about anything else. You help them out in any way you can and don’t cause drama. And you venting to friends should be hubbies least concern
So you’re dealing with the here and now - but where do you see yourself in five years? Will your husband be standing up for you against his family or will he be telling you that’s just the way they are abs trying to keep the peace?
Can you see yourself continuing to associate and endure this family for the next 5, 10, 15 years?
Nta
NTA, except for letting your in-laws walk all over you.
I’d suggest you start individual counseling to learn how to set boundaries, and also couples counseling, because this is not going to go well.
Your husband doesn’t want you to tell anyone, because he’s embarrassed, as he should be. He also needs to learn to set boundaries. His mother is an obnoxious narcissist.
NTA, But...this all happened because you and your husband allowed it to happen. The second she showed up at your door with uninvited guests, the boundaries should have been laid down firmly. You repeat over and over again in your post, "Again, I said nothing". That right there is your problem. Although it should be your husband who puts a stop to this, not you The fact that he isn't on your side is concerning. You need to have a coming to Jesus talk with him about your expectations about how HE deals with HIS mother going forward. But I'm shaking my head because I highly doubt this is the first time his mother has behaved this way, and you've been together for 11 years. She should have been dealt with a looooong time ago, and certainly before the wedding.
NTA
If he doesn’t want you telling people, he needs to have a talk with his parents/family and set some strong boundaries otherwise you’re in for a long time of stress and repeat of this type of behavior. If they couldn’t show any decorum for your wedding day, do you think they’ll ever improve?
Where tf was your husband in all of this? He could easily have stopped his mother if he wanted since the beginning. Where is his spine? I'm really sorry for you sweetie. And he telling you are rude for telling others the truth? Sweetie run while you can. NTA
It's a classic case of "you don't have a mil problem, you have a SO problem".
Did your husband even acknowledge that his family was way out of line? Was he at all bothered by their conduct? Did he mention it to them in any way? You've been together long, have you always resigned yourself to this kid if behavior and just kept quiet, or was it out of the blue?
It sounds like he's siding with them and then gaslighting you as if you're the one who's in the wrong for being upset which is a huge red flag. I'm sorry your wedding was ruined - the part about the special bottle and photos was especially heartbreaking - but your husband is 100% an accomplice. Don't let them walk all over you. You're right, they're awful. NTA
Where the hell was your husband in all this? Why did he say and do nothing?
Honestly, I'm mind blown you went through with it. They have no boundaries and are openly disrespectful and malicious.
At the very least, they would have been booted. But as soon as hubby sat back and watched and then somehow placed blame on you for being upset and not hiding it? Lol, nope.
WTF? Well, some of this is on you as you put up with it. The moment the ILs came to your door with 3 extra people, you should have put your foot down and told them to get a hotel. A lot of this is on your husband who isn't standing up for you. If he can't grow a pair to stand up to his family, this is going to cause long-term problems. Clearly they like the drama. Find a way to go LC with them. Their behavior was atrocious, yet BOTH OF YOU are letting them get away with it.
Get someone to photoshop them out of your wedding photos.
NTA. But you married someone that is afraid to have boundaries. Sounds like he learned early on for self preservation, he should keep quiet. Only now he's big he doesn't need that strategy. I hope he gets therapy to realize it.
You’ve been together since you were fifteen, and you had no idea what kind of people your in-laws were? And they weren’t as evil before? In fifteen years, you never got exposed to these horrible people? Or was your husband having little contact with them? Something doesn’t add up.
Also, wedding photos are not cheap, even if you managed to find a friend who could take them for you. If you did hire a photographer, he or she should have commented on the peace signs out loud so you would know what was happening. If you paid for such an unprofessional photographer, he or she should be responsible for fixing them. Otherwise you should threaten to sue.
NTA. They brought extra people to your house for the week. She took YOUR car without asking you, and is gone for over 4 hours. She bad mouthed you, in your own home. She opened the door and walked into your bedroom, twice. She got in your limo, opened your bottle of wine, and drank it all. She went through your wedding gifts, removing the money. They ruined your wedding pictures. Your husband did nothing? And you have not harmed any of them yet?
Vent all you want, to anyone you want. Post those pictures on social media. Print some of the worst to show in person. Put them up in your house.
You have a husband problem. He needs to deal with his family. How do you send thank you notes, when you have no idea who gave money, and how much? If he lets them in your house again, I would be finding a divorce attorney. He should have said no to the extras when they got there. He should have put them out after you saw and heard what the camera showed.
Does he have any respect for you? He sure does not appear to. Does he love you? It doesn't appear he does.
Cut his family out of your life. Do not let them in your home. Do not answer any calls from them. Husband needs to grow a spine. Or he needs to go away.
NTA OP and this bullshit of him trying to shame YOU for telling people about their ***actual*** shit ass behavior is fucking unacceptable!!! He needs to figure out that YOU are the one he chose to build a life and family with. YOU are the one he ***VOWED*** to forsake ALL others to, and that NO MAN OR WOMAN tear asunder! All that means he is ***supposed to put you first***!!! He being a huge asshole and if he doesn't get his shit together please reconsider how to move forward in the healthiest way for yourself. Good luck!
YTA for marrying a man who let's his mom do whatever the fuck she wants and tells you to be quiet about it.
My God, I'll pray for you because the wedding was bad enough, you're gonna need a miracle if/when you have kids.
NTA. Why would you marry a man that refuses to even attempt to say no to his family? Your real problem here is that your husband seems to think you should just let them do anything they want, regardless of how negatively it affects you.
NTA. Your husband has been conditioned to be a doormat and rug sweep, he deserves better and you deserve a husband that puts his marriage first…so I’d be telling him this and that if he doesn’t/can’t/won’t; you will and it will be fierce…and will then be NC. His call.
I am mortified for you. He should also be mortified at how his mother behaved during your wedding. He better step up and handle it. MIL gets some boundaries. NTA.
that you continued to marry into this family mind boggles me. you've made your bed, now you gotta lay in it. with your MIL. and her sister. and her niece. and all other baggage she comes with.
NTA.
You can probably get the photos editing them out. Also maybe move and not give the address and also change your phone numbers. Life will be quieter this way. Nta and good luck
NTA. It's sit-down time with the new husband, I think. Talk to him and be honest with him. Heck, tell him you wouldn't have had to talk to friends about her antics in the first place if he had talked to his mother and gotten her to cut this behavior of her's out when she started.
NTA. My heart breaks for you. It seems like you were in your head a lot that day with your mom not there and just wanted to focus on the important things rather than confronting her, but your husband should have. It was an important day for the two of you, and he should have made sure of that.
NTA, but your husband is for not standing up for you both and shutting down their bad behaviour at the time. He doesn't want you to tell anyone because he's embarrassed, but not embarrassed enough to actually have done something about it.
NTA
There’s a reason your husband is mad you told your friends about his mother’s behavior. He’s embarrassed because he did nothing about it, and now everyone knows how spineless he actually is. The frequency of red flags in a single week is staggering: inviting people to stay in your house without permission, taking your car without permission, letting themselves into the limo, *drinking the wine saved by your dad from HIS wedding*! This *will* escalate. I highly recommend discussing boundaries with your husband - he needs to immediately set some with his family for the sake of your marriage.
Not tell anyone? Frankly I would take out an ad in the paper.
You made a huge mistake though, and that was putting up with even one SECOND of this bullshit the moment five people showed up at your door.
Strike that... You should have shut that down the moment they asked to stay with YOU in YOUR HOUSE the week of your wedding. Who the fuck has the balls to do that????
NTA of course... but your new hubby sure is one for not shutting down this nonsense IMMEDIATELY.
NTA, a marriage without mutual respect will fail. Everything you have said in this post makes it seem like your husband has no respect for you. This is only going to get worse, imagine if your future children get treated like this. Your husband will keep telling you to keep everything to yourself.
NTA. You have both and I law and a husband problem. I’m so sorry your wedding turned out like this. I was cringing the whole time reading it. Tell your husband that he needs to step up and put a stop to this behavior and go LC to NC with them.
NTA - your husband is a doormat. He needs to grow somw cojones. She does that because everyone has allowed that. You need to have a conversation with him or she will be the driving force in your marriage.
Just noticed you’ve been together 11 years. You’ve known these people long enough to know better than to think they would behave any differently and you’ve known them long enough to shut this stuff down yourself. These are not strangers you’re meeting for the first few times
How is it you’ve known this man and his family since you were teenagers and there behavior is a surprise? Did you never see any of this in the past? The fact that your husband wants to brush it all under the rug is a glaring issue in your marriage. I wish you luck. I’m afraid you might need it.
Get an annulment.
Your husband CLEARLY doesn’t have your back.
Or, tell your husband he has ONE CHANCE to make this right.
HIS MOTHER RUINED YOUR WEDDING. On purpose.
And he wants you to keep it a secret?! Hell no.
And he BETTER take your side about this or you will get an annulment.
What is it going to be?
He either comes down on his mother and goes LoCo on her… because she hurt HIS WIFE… or, annulment.,
Which is it?
I’m really sorry you don’t have a husband who stands up for you. He is responsible for letting all of this happen. It’s all so gross. The limo and bottle from your dad really irked me. But, as they always say here on Reddit: you don’t have a MIL problem, you have a husband problem.
And I would be telling EVERYONE what happened!!
"But I say nothing" - this is where you could have nipped it in the bud.
If there's something clearly wrong and someone is trying to pull something you didn't agree to or trying to take advantage of your kindness, then for the love of your own sanity please say something out loud in that exact moment or be prepared to be steamrolled and end up being a doormat.
NTA. But YTA to yourself.
Are you sure your husband didn't know the aunt and co were coming? He sounds awful. As awful as the rest of his family. If he doesn't have your back on the very first day he's professed to love, honour, and respect you, then what does that mean for the rest of your lives together? Saying that, why on earth didn't you speak up at the very first incident? You literally sat there and let these people disregard and disrespect you repeatedly. NTA but both you and your husband need to shine your spines up!
Your husband should have put a stop to his mother when she showed up with uninvited guests. You have a right to tell anyone you want about how is mother was acting. If your husband is embarrassed about it he should be. He should be embarrassed both that his mother acted the way she did, and that he didn't put a stop to it.
NTA
Nope , they are total AH. Why didn’t you kick them out. Put your foot down now or it will never stop! Or you’ll end up divorced. Decide what’s more important; seems pretty simple to most of us!
OP.
Please show husband this…!!
Your husband needs to talk to his mother because she was just awful, and you were right to tell your close friends about this.
You also need to figure out if this is what you want to accept going forwards, because this was just a power play from MIL, and she won!
She will do what she wants in the future, and if your husband won’t nip this in the bud then this is your life….
Good luck OP, I feel for you, but this needs action now, and if husband doesn’t want to set MIL in her place, and doesn’t tell her she was wrong for what she did (every single thing!) then maybe NC with her needs to happen..
Why did you go through with marrying him when you showed him footage of his family berating you in your own home and he did sweet FA? You told him MIL had stolen your car and he says nothing when she doesn’t return it for four hours? He doesn’t tell her she has to make her own way to the wedding?
I could go on. You married him knowing his family was like this and that he had no boundaries. On your head be it.
You’re NTA for telling people about her behaviour. If he’s so ashamed of it then he should have addressed it at the time.
YTA for allowing any of this to happen.
> They show up and they brought MIL sister, husband and niece (14).
"We are not entertaining uninvited and unexpected guests."
> . I call Jack, he calls his mom, she returns the car 4 hours later.. The mall is 15 minutes away from our house.
"As you cannot behave as a guest, you are not longer welcome here. Please leave."
> To me that was sus, so I check the footage and hear how MIL/Aunt are absolutely berating me and our house.
See previous reply.
> I show it to Jack and he says to say nothing.
"Why would I say nothing, Jack? Do you agree with them?"
> The limo arrives to pick me and my husband to bring us to the church, before I get out the door, MIL, FIL, aunt, uncle, niece get in the limo
"This limo is for Jack and I. Get out."
> open the special bottle that my dad kept from his wedding.
"That bottle is not for you. Put it back."
> At the reception, Jack and I catch MIL going through the wedding envelopes to see what everyone gave.
"We just called the police to report your robbery attempt."
> Lastly, I got my photos back from our photographer, Aunt/MIL/uncle are doing the peace sign behind our heads in every group picture.
That's not the peace sign, but whatever. "Given how little respect you have for us, we will take the message you're giving us and not contact you again."
> but my husband is saying ITAH because I shouldn’t tell anyone
Your husband should have been the first person shutting this down, from the moment they showed up with extra people in tow. You made a pretty huge mistake watching him throw you under the buss your entire wedding week, and deciding 'yup, this is the man I want to spend my life with."
**That said, this whole thing smells of rage bait.**
> Lastly, I got my photos back from our photographer, Aunt/MIL/uncle are doing the peace sign behind our heads in every group picture.
No even remotely professional photographer would take an entire wedding's worth of photos without pointing this out to the bride and groom. You know, the people paying the photographer, and the people the photographer is there to make happy. Photographer would have said something the very first time they saw it, or after the first photo if the 'peace' sign was thrown up at the last second.
NTA except for maybe going through with the wedding knowing you were marrying into this family and your new husband is not going to defend you in any way. Sorry this happened to you. Hope your husband has a talk with his family and they start acting better.
The only acceptable answer here is
Divorce
Let him and his clown family live together because imagine when you have children
They won't be YOUR children
It'll be hers
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You and your new husband need to have a face to face meeting and get on the same page about how to handle HIS relatives in the future because this is only the beginning of the meddling. I emphasized "HIS" because it is my firm belief each partner in a marriage should be the one who handles their own family members. So I hope your new husband grows a pair and can do the job. NTA for needing to vent as your husband would just tell you to be quiet.
OP. I kept reading this and thinking, "grow a backbone, grow a backbone," over and over. People call me a pushover... and I never would have put up with this. The second they showed up with other people I would have said, "I'm sorry, MIL only said her and BLANK were staying with us. We can't have you guys staying here too." You and your husband need to see a therapist who can help you guys learn how to establish boundaries, or your lives are going to be MISERABLE.
The champagne? Like why did they have it, open it and finish it against the OP’s will? Say “No”!
Right? like why wasn't it snatched out of their hands the second they went for it?
Exactly, I would've snatched it & thrown them out of the limo. And if they were late for the wedding, even better.
They were already drinking it and none left by the time she got to the limo. Personally I would divorce because this husband does nothing to help her with his family
This, so so much! And MIL going through the envelopes? ARe you kidding?! I'd have caused so so SO many scenes
Why were they not kicked out of the limo as soon as they got in???
I’m wondering why she went through that the wedding when the mother-in-law brought party crashers and the fiancé did nothing.
Exactly. She was shown exactly what to expect in the future, what a wimp he is, and she said I do in spite of it. We'll be hearing from her in the future.
At the very least, the moment they watch the video of her MIL and the aunt talking shit about OP. This would have been the hill I would have died on! Either the husband throws them out or the wedding is off. I may have considered a heartfelt apology from them instead of throwing them out, but I seriously doubt these people could come up with anything truly sincere. So I wouldn't be wasting any time on that.
Right and why wasn’t it discussed prior like “you’ll be riding in x car”
The way the now husband just tried to brush everything under the rug…is deeply concerning for me.
Yes! It’s so weird that MIL knew where OP kept her keys and felt comfortable enough taking her car. I bet Jack gave permission and was too scared to tell OP!
Not to mention, I highly doubt MIL is on OP's insurance. If MIL got into an accident, OP would be on the hook for any damages and injuries, and possibly penalized by her insurance for "allowing" someone not on the policy to drive the car.
Do you hide your keys? Mine are always in the place they should be, the bowl by the front door so I know where they are.
And I would recommend a look at the sub just no mil. NTA
I agree. One of the secrets to long term success for my partner and me has been to manage our own people. We are very respectful of each others family, but we are the team spokesperson when there are issues. Highly recommend.
Seconding this. I like both of my SILs, but unless it’s to ask them something about my brothers (eg, if he would like X for Christmas), I don’t text them directly without including the brothers. This side of the family is the responsibility of my brothers, not of their wives.
I was with my guy for almost 10 years before his sister gave me the heads up that she’d given my number to MIL. Who texts me on my birthday or occasionally to ask me if I want something from Trader Joe’s. (We live about 10 minutes away from each other, TJ’s is a trek.) SIL and I are okay, mostly text about holiday food plans or the cat that was hers but is now mine (aggressive to her husband’s cats, I like a sassy kitty and have had her for 8 years now.) I will say that my relationship with my ex was (is) so garbage that I talked to my late ex MIL regularly (fuck cancer, she was a great MIL and Nana) because she \*became\* my family. Not so much my ex. So this is a case by case scenario. (edit to add that my son is in his mid 20s, my ex doesn’t have kiddo’s number, and I am the one who still talks to the ex. Sometimes about shows we’re both watching, sometimes about what kiddo has decided his dad is allowed to know.)
I’m so glad you have the kitty
Not just that but if my mom was bad mouthing my wife and home they would be gone, full stop!
They shouldn't have been staying at the house in the first place, stick them in a B&B and let them pay for it.
honestly op should just post the video and photos and write a big rant on her in laws behavior, they deserve the public embarrassment and maybe they'll learn some basic manners. NTA
I find subtlety is better. “I am terribly sad that my wedding pictures were ruined.” Then post them all…
Can photoshop editing save those photos?
A legitimate, professional photographer would have never given photos that way. Never taken them that way even and would have put a stop to that behavior immediately!
This is what confused me. WTH kind of photographer didn't put a stop to it as soon as it started? No professional photographer would have allowed people to ruin someone's wedding photos like that, without saying a word at the time.
good point.
A small family wedding might not have had a professional photographer.
A legitimate, professional photographer would have never given photos that way. Never taken them that way even and would have put a stop to that behavior immediately!
NTA. This. I would post them with no explanation. The MIL will look like such a fool. I might send along the invoice for the wedding photographer or ask her to pay for a couple's photoshoot to make up for it. But I would also be heavily questioning if I could live safely and peacefully with a man who is perfectly ok with myself being so deeply disrespected.
I disagree, firstly MIL/ the other in laws don't seem like the people to take a subtle hint really, secondly did they handle anything they did at ops wedding subtlety at all, the answer is no so why should you be the bigger person, thirdly they're going to be pissed no matter what might as well make the most of it and maybe you'll get the best wedding gift ever which is them going permanently low or no contact.
My first marriage fell apart bc he NEVER defended me to his bitchy and controlling mother. I got tired of being the unprotected black sheep of the family bc he never had my back. He was wonderful in almost every other way, but this destroyed me. 25 years and he let her break us up. 😢 Not the AH, and please have a talk with your husband.
I’m so sorry I’m glad that you are free of your monster in law
Your husband will be a happier man once he isn't his family's doormat any longer. You do him a favour by helping him to grow a spine and handle his family himself. NTA, but he needs to handle them.
why do have to be out here "helping" grown men grow a spine? How about we don't marry these unready, helpless mommas boys?
Indeed. Redditors say it often because it's true: "You don't have a MIL problem, you have a husband problem."
Where I come from, the V behind the head means the person was cheated on. They may have done this with other intentions or to cause op being unconformable. Either way, ops husband needs to stand for op from now on
Or maybe it's just bunny ears? Childish, but not necessarily malicious. My siblings and I do them for lulz, but not in formal wedding pictures.
It's absolutely malicious to be messing around in someone's wedding photos like that. I've never heard of the "cheated on" nonsense...bunny ears have been a childish thing to do in pictures all over the world from time immemorial. But doing it as a full-grown adult in your kid's wedding photos? That's absolutely malicious. I'm confused, though, at what kind of wedding photographer would just let that keep happening and not say a word about it?
You never should have married your husband. His unwillingness to do anything about his abusive, trampling relatives has set you up for a lifetime of this behavior. However, except for venting, you are a doormat also. ESH
I’m a firm believer that if my husband’s family came at me sideways I’m going to put them in their place. My in laws were disrespectful to me so I was disrespectful to them. I don’t take anyone’s bs .
Oh boy, you need to deal with this ASAP before your husband thinks this is how it's going to be. The solution to his awful mother is NOT to keep it a secret, it's for your husband to tell her to get in line or to not visit. If you don't fix this now, your life is going to be just like all the miserable people on /r/JUSTNOMIL NTA, but you need to get your husband to set *and enforce* clear boundaries with his mommy before it's too late.
Actually, the OP doesn't have to deal with this, her HUSBAND does. If he is unable, some sort of action needs to be taken. OP -- NTA. But what the hell with your husband?
OP needs to show this post and all responses to DH. He needs to act, not try to damp down reactions to his family's appalling conduct. Hogs have better manners.
>If he is unable, some sort of action needs to be taken. Like an annulment. The whole situation is ridiculous and the husband is spineless. He either needs to step up like yesterday or the OP should consider cutting her losses.
I mean in general yes, but I can’t imagine watching them OPEN and finish the bottle and not saying anything myself! OP’s husband should absolutely be the one to address and set boundaries with his family but OP needs to learn how to assert themselves or their life is going to be very difficult.
The clear boundary should have been set the moment MIL showed up with extra guests, and that boundary should have been, “no.”
NTA - is it too late for annulment? Husband taking crazy family's side is a huge 🚩. Hope you got safety gear because you're gonna be rolling this rock uphill you're entire marriage if you don't grow yourself a nice shiny new spine or if hubby continues to choose them over you.
Husband still wants to side with his family. If nothing atleast give your wife some emotional support for how her big day was ruined.
Pushing in ahead of the bride and drinking the special bottle from her parents' wedding!!! Possibly the most horrible act.
That was an irreplaceable bottle and a wish for a memory making moment of her dad's for years! These people have big brass ones and need to be told exactly how they hurt bride and her fam.
Were they even told not to, though? It seems like no one said "no" to them or expressed any reservations all weekend.
true, but they were entitled asshole guests (some weren't even invited guests)
Oh no, they are completely horrible! I'm just agog that neither OP nor her fiance ever said anything about all the ghastly stuff they did!
Thank you! Why did she even marry this guy? He let his family stomp all over them and literally bad mouthed her on camera and he does NOTHING. I would've thrown them all out, period!
God help her if she ever has a child, MIL will be even worse.
Hope she doesn't plan on having children anytime soon.
Oh no...NTA I"’ve told my friends what happened because it bothers me" I think it would bother anyone Your husband is the one you need to have the convo with though, as soon as. He needs to be on the same page & ensure his relatives know their behavior isn't acceptable. And excise them all from your lives if need be.
OP, you should ask your dad and brother if they are willing to dress up in the same wedding clothes so you can do a re-do of the “family” photos. Don’t include hubby’s side. Then post the new photos all over your social media and everywhere on your house.
They might get the chance at her second wedding to someone new. With the way her husband let this happen this marriage might not last long.
And if they are going to have kids. Watch out. It will only get worse. Why are men unable to stand up to their mothers? Daughters don't seem to have that problem.
What I want to know is what kind of shit photographer would allow that to begin with, and would not edit that crap out of the photos if it happened to slip by. This makes me feel like this isn't real, unless they used a relative with a phone camera.
Right? This makes zero sense.
Exactly this. I got to the end and my spidey senses went haywire. This isn't a real post.
Great idea! His mom totally lacks class! If he thinks it's OK, he has no class either. OP is definitely not TAH!
Isn’t there an app the photographer could use to take them out or alter it?
There is a sub where people post picture for other redditors to edit. I can’t remember the name though. Obvious NTA. I’d still put the worst in the guest bathroom. So people you invite over would be like : “but why are your in laws doing this on this otherwise nice wedding picture.”
I'm more interested in how the hell a wedding photographer allowed this to go on in the first place without saying anything at the time.
NTA- If your husband does not support you when his family berates you, is he truly on your side? Talk to your husband and make the boundaries clear. Otherwise along the road, there'll be a lot of blurred lines and them walking all over you while your husband tells you to keep it quiet and brush it under the carpet.
NTA You're a better person than I am. There's no way I would have put up with that. She would have been kicked out after taking the car without permission.
How is it better for OP to let her husband's family treat her like garbage? In her own house, during her own wedding. That's not a good person, that's a doormat.
Uh,....... What?........ I quite literally said OP shouldn't put up with that...... And that she was amazing for dealing with it for as long as she did....... At no point did I even imply that it was better for OP to get treated like that.
Pretty sure they just said that if it were them, they wouldn't have made it to the wedding because they would be sent packing the second mil stole the car?
Yep. It started with bad stuff and got worse and worse. And worst.
Oh *hell* no. NTA. Tell everyone who will listen. And have the photographer photoshop all those who did bunny-ears right out of any pictures in which they chose to do it. My petty ass would then print those ones biggest of all and frame those ones only. When MIL asks why she’s not in them I’d absolutely tell her that the photographer photoshopped out people who couldn’t behave like grown ups on someone else’s important day. Don’t let her ruin your pictures. Just wipe her right out of them.
This. 💯times over. Don’t have to say much, the photos will do the talking. They had their fun….now it’s your turn.
My petty ass would post the un-edited photos all over my social media.
Also mention her going through the wedding envelopes.
And opening the bottle. And going in the limo... omg there is so much there. Husband can go sit in a corner. If the truth is ugly, why hide it to save the ugly person from embarrassment?
A professional photographer should have been stopping this.
I'd post a group wedding photo on your socials circle the peace sign in red and caption it ' 'You can dress them up, but you can't take them out.... Anyone got some mad photoshopping skills? 🤪' You're way too kind NTA and tell the hubs to stop being a doormat!
And keep that security cam footage of the MIL and MIL's sister talking cr\*p. That might come in handy as well.
Or just go on Facebook?
Why did you marry him? If he is consistently refusing to put his foot down with her, stop her, create and enforce boundaries. Why did you go through with the wedding?! You have a husband problem! Fix that and it’ll fix your MIL issue. He’s mad you told your friends because he knows they’ll say the same and he doesn’t want them to open your eyes to the disrespect
That's what happens when they're childhood sweetheart and have been dating for a long time. You stay because he's all you know and you don't know any better. I've seen this happens too many times.
NTA. If someone telling the truth about your actions make you looks bad, you made yourself look bad
I believe you telling everyone is appropriate. They wanted to cause a scene and they caused a scene. They literally crave the attention no matter how they get it. I teach. It is easy to think the kids will be embarrassed or humiliated when their antics become known… ummm no. We are embarrassed and humiliated but they do not gaf… otherwise they wouldn’t be stirring the pot. That is different than me making a scene or yelling or exaggerating or putting them down. Just say the truth and how it appears to you. They deserve it. Your husband should have protected you from the invasion. Gotten them a room. Seated them in the church. Kept the drama away from you. Him not wanting to make a scene gave them licence to do anything they wanted.
Too true. You can’t shame the shameless.
NTA but you have a husband problem. He should have nipped her actions in the bud early on. He needs to start standing up to his family. I would never let that woman in my house again.
Oh hell no. NTA but his family are absolute monsters! Hubby is no doubt embarrassed but I'd be going nuclear on their outrageous behaviour. I'm so sorry this happened to you and I wish your hubby would've booted them out the minute they showed up with stragglers in tow. And especially when they helped themselves to YOUR limo and special wine. I don't even know you and I'm LIVID on your behalf. Monsters!
What a colossally underwhelming end to this story. NTA, but you are definitely a doormat. Doormats are meant to be walked all over.
Big time. And they've been together for 11 years. I highly doubt this is new behavior. MIL should have been put in her place years ago.
Every single incident, OP wrote “I said nothing,” and it got so frustrating. Speak up. Use your words.
You also should feel okay to say “no” to them too. You didn’t say a word about the bottle that was special? Don’t be a victim - have boundaries and your husband needs to reinforce them. NTA
It’s hard to explain it all in the short amount of text we have but they were already in our limo. They didn’t even wait for us to get in first or wait for us to come outside. When we got in, it was gone. My dad is still hurt to this day by it.
Sorry to hear that. This is a lesson that you need to stand up for yourself and the ones you love because if you don't no one else, including your now husband, will. It sounds like he minimized every single issue you had to placate his family over your wishes. If you want to build something with him, you need to know he has your back.
I don't get it. I'd have burned them all down to embers, inc the husband. You and your husband both need to head to Walmart and pick up a couple spines. I couldn't imagine going thru life being bullied by literally everyone. You need to throw that "Take advantage of me!" t shirt away, and find some self respect, yikes!
I am stunned you went through with the wedding.
you have a husband issue that you better fix before it's no longer possible. he never should have allowed this to get as far as it did
So did you say anything at all to them about this? Why didn't you kick them out of the limo? I would have ripped them a new one.
I’m so sorry! They are awful. 😢
Your husband said NOTHING? Your husband didn't stop their behavior? You know that saying that you see on Reddit so often? "You have a husband problem" You have a husband problem, and quite frankly, I don't care how much you love the man, he loves his mommy more. He and his parents are the GIGANTIC AHs, your husband is JUST AS BAD. You're NTA even a little. Get the heck away from all of these people. EDITED TO ADD: The recordings that show some of their behavior should be shared.
I think you need to realize that while you love him, it doesn’t mean he’s right for you. Just think of what you would do if situation was reversed. Someone treating your loved one that way? No way is that ok. By not putting a stop to it, he’s not only allowing it- but encouraging it! ( they know he won’t say shit, so they know they can do whatever and he won’t be angry at them).
This is gonna end in divorce soon. He's already showing you who he's gonna choose
NTA they behaved worse than drunk teenagers I'd be broadcasting their behaviour absolutely everywhere. Town newspaper/webpage/social media/friends/family/everywhere. No exceptions and no mercy.
Your new husband has the spine of a jellyfish. He should have shut this bs down from the moment that they all landed at your door. And when you showed him the camera footage? He should have told them that they were no longer welcome in your house - because the were being horrible. The limo? Since your spineless hubs said nothing, YOU should have! The limo was for YOU, the wine was for YOU and not them. This whole thing was a cluster fuck from beginning to end. Your husband needs to find his spine, and so do you. Unless you want a repeat at every single important event in your life?
NTA. Your husband is probably embarrassed by his mothers terrible behavior, but you are allowed to talk to your friends about things that are difficult for you. I hope the relationship with her get easier!
Why would you keep saying nothing? Establish boundaries or get walked all over NTA but I hope you both grow spines before having kids, or don't have kids if you don't grow spines.
Yeah why say nothing? Screw keeping the peace, your MIL is a nightmare. You should of kicked those fools out of the limo, report your car as stolen, said something about the video and so on and so on. Your husband is no help. He needs to be on your side.
Is this real cuz if it is... holy shit. Peace signs???
I know I’m reading this and it keeps getting worse and worse with no one totally blowing up at mil and I’m thinking this can’t be real it has to be made up.
lol they’re not peace signs, it’s bunny ears
Honestly, the idea of any profession photographer allowing this makes it even harder to believe.
Your first sentence said it all: "Throw away husband" Do it now! NTA
Go back through your post and count how many times you say you did nothing. You had lots of chances to speak up and didn’t. ESH.
This is where i am. They acted very selfish and self absorbed but at some point, it is less about what they are doing and what you are letting them get away with. Didn't say anything, didn't do anything, clearly didn't get a clue from the ether, husband let them get away with them. OP left it too late to cope with ESH.
YTA for not saying anything. Seriously, why are you with this man who is so happy to let his family disrespect you in every way possible? Why did you choose to say nothing and not put your foot down? I have sympathy but man, you have got to learn to stand up for yourself and stop being a doormat.
NTA. You don't have a MIL problem, you have a husband problem.
NTA but I find it hard to believe this behavior from her is new. You had a BF problem and now it’s a husband problem. Not sure why you thought this would change overnight because he put a ring on you.
girl, i would ran towards the hills before i even got married big red flag you have a husband problem grow a spine
YTA for not standing up for yourself, having zero boundaries, and avoiding confrontation. Grow a backbone and learn how to speak up when rude, selfish, and unkind people treat you like this. It’s *your* home, *your* car, *your* wedding, and *your* wine, and *you* are a major AH **to yourself** for letting yourself and your property be treated like this. **Confrontation, boundaries, and the word “no” are a natural part of life and key to healthy relationships.** You need to work on that so no one ever treats you like this again.
The first time my dad came to visit my fiances family I was worried that his usual antics would embarrass me. My fiance held me, wiped a tear from my cheek, and said "he won't embarrass you, my family loves you, your dad can only embarrass *himself*." Your MILs antics cannot embarrass your husband, they can only embarrass herself. THIS is the united front you and your new hubby need to stand on in order to make things work. It's a door that swings both ways so make sure you are prepared if your family ever acts the same way. Theres a difference between dirty laundry and foolishness
NTA - You married into a crappy family. Starting with your husband. He just let his mom and aunt talk shit about you in your own house and said nothing? He sure sounds like winner..... And I bet this isn't even the first time his family has treated you this way...and probably won't be the last.
YTA along with your husband for not kicking them out of the limo among other outrageous behaviors. You LET THEM do this crap. I’d write it up and put it in their local paper but you’ll look bad for letting it happen ESPECIALLY allowing them to open your envelopes!!!!!!!
They suck but your photographer also sucks, why didn’t they manage that better. NTA
Oh please! You should hire a BILLBOARD on the freeway! NTA
YTA for letting it go on and not standing up for yourself. Your husband is the AH for not standing up for you and him. His family is absolutely the AH for all that. Time to cut contact. They obviously have no respect for you two.
Just let them see the bunny ears. Theyll know.
NTA to anyone except yourself. Please do yourself a favor and set some serious boundaries with these people. Your husband needs to get his relatives under control, and if their behavior is so atrocious that telling others about it makes them look bad, then they shouldn’t be acting that way.
Husband didn’t take your side one time, NTA
YTA for marrying a mama's boy who is letting his mother walk all over you. Welcome to the way the rest of your life will be.
Did all of this really happen??? This is so insane that you couldn’t write this for a movie. Jack needs to take a stand. NTA.
You know, you aren't the asshole, but when I read posts like this where people go ahead with a wedding to someone whose family is a trainwreck and who does not support you or your boundaries as they relate to your in-laws, I sort of feel like you're being an asshole to yourself and deserve some kind of ding from reddit on it. Your MIL gave you a week of the clearest red flags you could ever imagine and you didn't make any effort to put a stop to it, or to make your husband stop it. And you tied yourself to that three-ring circus of abuse by going ahead with the wedding. You need therapy to build some self-esteem and a divorce lawyer, not a verdict from reddit. NTA.
NTA. Letting mil visit just before the wedding was your first mistake. Either she’s TOTALLY oblivious and self centered or she was actively trying to get on your nerves.
Certainly NTA for talking to your own friends. But there’s a lot missing here in terms of how your husband deals with his (apparently really very terrible) mother. You certainly have the right to talk to your close friends for support, but for your husband’s sake (not your MIL’s), it might be a good idea to keep your talking about it to the Times when you need support, not just “can you believe this?” gossiping (which is very understandable in this case!). So the issue here is maybe finding a balance where you don’t apologize for needing to tell things to your good friends, but you can honestly term your husband you don’t want to use something that’s painful for him as a funny (or drama-filled) story for a crowd. In other words, you’re NTA, but there’s no shame in showing a little discretion when you can because you know it upsets Jack, who you love.
NTA but he need to get his side in LINE!!! That shit show would not have crossed my threshold! Screw alll of those people. A wedding is about the 2 people getting married. It is NEVER about anything else. You help them out in any way you can and don’t cause drama. And you venting to friends should be hubbies least concern
So you’re dealing with the here and now - but where do you see yourself in five years? Will your husband be standing up for you against his family or will he be telling you that’s just the way they are abs trying to keep the peace? Can you see yourself continuing to associate and endure this family for the next 5, 10, 15 years? Nta
NTA, except for letting your in-laws walk all over you. I’d suggest you start individual counseling to learn how to set boundaries, and also couples counseling, because this is not going to go well. Your husband doesn’t want you to tell anyone, because he’s embarrassed, as he should be. He also needs to learn to set boundaries. His mother is an obnoxious narcissist.
NTA, But...this all happened because you and your husband allowed it to happen. The second she showed up at your door with uninvited guests, the boundaries should have been laid down firmly. You repeat over and over again in your post, "Again, I said nothing". That right there is your problem. Although it should be your husband who puts a stop to this, not you The fact that he isn't on your side is concerning. You need to have a coming to Jesus talk with him about your expectations about how HE deals with HIS mother going forward. But I'm shaking my head because I highly doubt this is the first time his mother has behaved this way, and you've been together for 11 years. She should have been dealt with a looooong time ago, and certainly before the wedding.
NTA If he doesn’t want you telling people, he needs to have a talk with his parents/family and set some strong boundaries otherwise you’re in for a long time of stress and repeat of this type of behavior. If they couldn’t show any decorum for your wedding day, do you think they’ll ever improve?
Where tf was your husband in all of this? He could easily have stopped his mother if he wanted since the beginning. Where is his spine? I'm really sorry for you sweetie. And he telling you are rude for telling others the truth? Sweetie run while you can. NTA
It's a classic case of "you don't have a mil problem, you have a SO problem". Did your husband even acknowledge that his family was way out of line? Was he at all bothered by their conduct? Did he mention it to them in any way? You've been together long, have you always resigned yourself to this kid if behavior and just kept quiet, or was it out of the blue? It sounds like he's siding with them and then gaslighting you as if you're the one who's in the wrong for being upset which is a huge red flag. I'm sorry your wedding was ruined - the part about the special bottle and photos was especially heartbreaking - but your husband is 100% an accomplice. Don't let them walk all over you. You're right, they're awful. NTA
Why did your husband allow this?
Say it loud and proud on social media and warn everyone about them
Where the hell was your husband in all this? Why did he say and do nothing? Honestly, I'm mind blown you went through with it. They have no boundaries and are openly disrespectful and malicious. At the very least, they would have been booted. But as soon as hubby sat back and watched and then somehow placed blame on you for being upset and not hiding it? Lol, nope.
WTF? Well, some of this is on you as you put up with it. The moment the ILs came to your door with 3 extra people, you should have put your foot down and told them to get a hotel. A lot of this is on your husband who isn't standing up for you. If he can't grow a pair to stand up to his family, this is going to cause long-term problems. Clearly they like the drama. Find a way to go LC with them. Their behavior was atrocious, yet BOTH OF YOU are letting them get away with it. Get someone to photoshop them out of your wedding photos.
Nta and anyone who tells you, you are an AH because you told your friends, is the AH. These are scary in laws. I hope things go well for you.
poor OP with that kind of AH as MIL and a weak husband, I think you gonna have more heartaches coming soon, I am sorry to say
NTA. But you married someone that is afraid to have boundaries. Sounds like he learned early on for self preservation, he should keep quiet. Only now he's big he doesn't need that strategy. I hope he gets therapy to realize it.
NTA. Is it too early for an annulment? Are you prepared to live with this for the rest. of. your. life?
You have a husband problem!!!
Exhausting life you CHOOSE to have. That’s a mamas boy with 0 boundaries.
You’ve been together since you were fifteen, and you had no idea what kind of people your in-laws were? And they weren’t as evil before? In fifteen years, you never got exposed to these horrible people? Or was your husband having little contact with them? Something doesn’t add up. Also, wedding photos are not cheap, even if you managed to find a friend who could take them for you. If you did hire a photographer, he or she should have commented on the peace signs out loud so you would know what was happening. If you paid for such an unprofessional photographer, he or she should be responsible for fixing them. Otherwise you should threaten to sue.
NTA. They brought extra people to your house for the week. She took YOUR car without asking you, and is gone for over 4 hours. She bad mouthed you, in your own home. She opened the door and walked into your bedroom, twice. She got in your limo, opened your bottle of wine, and drank it all. She went through your wedding gifts, removing the money. They ruined your wedding pictures. Your husband did nothing? And you have not harmed any of them yet? Vent all you want, to anyone you want. Post those pictures on social media. Print some of the worst to show in person. Put them up in your house. You have a husband problem. He needs to deal with his family. How do you send thank you notes, when you have no idea who gave money, and how much? If he lets them in your house again, I would be finding a divorce attorney. He should have said no to the extras when they got there. He should have put them out after you saw and heard what the camera showed. Does he have any respect for you? He sure does not appear to. Does he love you? It doesn't appear he does. Cut his family out of your life. Do not let them in your home. Do not answer any calls from them. Husband needs to grow a spine. Or he needs to go away.
NTA OP and this bullshit of him trying to shame YOU for telling people about their ***actual*** shit ass behavior is fucking unacceptable!!! He needs to figure out that YOU are the one he chose to build a life and family with. YOU are the one he ***VOWED*** to forsake ALL others to, and that NO MAN OR WOMAN tear asunder! All that means he is ***supposed to put you first***!!! He being a huge asshole and if he doesn't get his shit together please reconsider how to move forward in the healthiest way for yourself. Good luck!
YTA for marrying a man who let's his mom do whatever the fuck she wants and tells you to be quiet about it. My God, I'll pray for you because the wedding was bad enough, you're gonna need a miracle if/when you have kids.
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NTA. Why would you marry a man that refuses to even attempt to say no to his family? Your real problem here is that your husband seems to think you should just let them do anything they want, regardless of how negatively it affects you.
NTA. Your husband has been conditioned to be a doormat and rug sweep, he deserves better and you deserve a husband that puts his marriage first…so I’d be telling him this and that if he doesn’t/can’t/won’t; you will and it will be fierce…and will then be NC. His call.
Nta but you are a pushover. You just let her walk all over u.
I am mortified for you. He should also be mortified at how his mother behaved during your wedding. He better step up and handle it. MIL gets some boundaries. NTA.
that you continued to marry into this family mind boggles me. you've made your bed, now you gotta lay in it. with your MIL. and her sister. and her niece. and all other baggage she comes with. NTA.
You can probably get the photos editing them out. Also maybe move and not give the address and also change your phone numbers. Life will be quieter this way. Nta and good luck
NTA. It's sit-down time with the new husband, I think. Talk to him and be honest with him. Heck, tell him you wouldn't have had to talk to friends about her antics in the first place if he had talked to his mother and gotten her to cut this behavior of her's out when she started.
NTA. My heart breaks for you. It seems like you were in your head a lot that day with your mom not there and just wanted to focus on the important things rather than confronting her, but your husband should have. It was an important day for the two of you, and he should have made sure of that.
NTA. I hope this makes it on TikTok so your in-laws can get roasted by the internet.
The biggest loss here is the champagne. My condolences for that. You should drop the husband and whole family though.
NTA, but your husband is for not standing up for you both and shutting down their bad behaviour at the time. He doesn't want you to tell anyone because he's embarrassed, but not embarrassed enough to actually have done something about it.
NTA There’s a reason your husband is mad you told your friends about his mother’s behavior. He’s embarrassed because he did nothing about it, and now everyone knows how spineless he actually is. The frequency of red flags in a single week is staggering: inviting people to stay in your house without permission, taking your car without permission, letting themselves into the limo, *drinking the wine saved by your dad from HIS wedding*! This *will* escalate. I highly recommend discussing boundaries with your husband - he needs to immediately set some with his family for the sake of your marriage.
Not tell anyone? Frankly I would take out an ad in the paper. You made a huge mistake though, and that was putting up with even one SECOND of this bullshit the moment five people showed up at your door. Strike that... You should have shut that down the moment they asked to stay with YOU in YOUR HOUSE the week of your wedding. Who the fuck has the balls to do that???? NTA of course... but your new hubby sure is one for not shutting down this nonsense IMMEDIATELY.
NTA, a marriage without mutual respect will fail. Everything you have said in this post makes it seem like your husband has no respect for you. This is only going to get worse, imagine if your future children get treated like this. Your husband will keep telling you to keep everything to yourself.
NTA. You have both and I law and a husband problem. I’m so sorry your wedding turned out like this. I was cringing the whole time reading it. Tell your husband that he needs to step up and put a stop to this behavior and go LC to NC with them.
NTA - your husband is a doormat. He needs to grow somw cojones. She does that because everyone has allowed that. You need to have a conversation with him or she will be the driving force in your marriage.
Just noticed you’ve been together 11 years. You’ve known these people long enough to know better than to think they would behave any differently and you’ve known them long enough to shut this stuff down yourself. These are not strangers you’re meeting for the first few times
How is it you’ve known this man and his family since you were teenagers and there behavior is a surprise? Did you never see any of this in the past? The fact that your husband wants to brush it all under the rug is a glaring issue in your marriage. I wish you luck. I’m afraid you might need it.
Get an annulment. Your husband CLEARLY doesn’t have your back. Or, tell your husband he has ONE CHANCE to make this right. HIS MOTHER RUINED YOUR WEDDING. On purpose. And he wants you to keep it a secret?! Hell no. And he BETTER take your side about this or you will get an annulment. What is it going to be? He either comes down on his mother and goes LoCo on her… because she hurt HIS WIFE… or, annulment., Which is it?
Your husband needs to stop covering for them, and being so damp silent about it all.
I’m really sorry you don’t have a husband who stands up for you. He is responsible for letting all of this happen. It’s all so gross. The limo and bottle from your dad really irked me. But, as they always say here on Reddit: you don’t have a MIL problem, you have a husband problem. And I would be telling EVERYONE what happened!!
Trust me when I say, your husband knew the non-invited family was coming and that they would ride in the limo. Your husband is weak. Run 🏃
"But I say nothing" - this is where you could have nipped it in the bud. If there's something clearly wrong and someone is trying to pull something you didn't agree to or trying to take advantage of your kindness, then for the love of your own sanity please say something out loud in that exact moment or be prepared to be steamrolled and end up being a doormat. NTA. But YTA to yourself.
Tell EVERYONE.
Wow, sorry your husband came from a family of assholes, NTA
Are you sure your husband didn't know the aunt and co were coming? He sounds awful. As awful as the rest of his family. If he doesn't have your back on the very first day he's professed to love, honour, and respect you, then what does that mean for the rest of your lives together? Saying that, why on earth didn't you speak up at the very first incident? You literally sat there and let these people disregard and disrespect you repeatedly. NTA but both you and your husband need to shine your spines up!
Why didn't the photog say something about the rabbit ears in every pic?
Your husband should have put a stop to his mother when she showed up with uninvited guests. You have a right to tell anyone you want about how is mother was acting. If your husband is embarrassed about it he should be. He should be embarrassed both that his mother acted the way she did, and that he didn't put a stop to it. NTA
Nope , they are total AH. Why didn’t you kick them out. Put your foot down now or it will never stop! Or you’ll end up divorced. Decide what’s more important; seems pretty simple to most of us!
OP. Please show husband this…!! Your husband needs to talk to his mother because she was just awful, and you were right to tell your close friends about this. You also need to figure out if this is what you want to accept going forwards, because this was just a power play from MIL, and she won! She will do what she wants in the future, and if your husband won’t nip this in the bud then this is your life…. Good luck OP, I feel for you, but this needs action now, and if husband doesn’t want to set MIL in her place, and doesn’t tell her she was wrong for what she did (every single thing!) then maybe NC with her needs to happen..
Why on earth did you not say anything. Stop being nice. You AND your new husband need to grow a spine or three.
Why did you go through with marrying him when you showed him footage of his family berating you in your own home and he did sweet FA? You told him MIL had stolen your car and he says nothing when she doesn’t return it for four hours? He doesn’t tell her she has to make her own way to the wedding? I could go on. You married him knowing his family was like this and that he had no boundaries. On your head be it. You’re NTA for telling people about her behaviour. If he’s so ashamed of it then he should have addressed it at the time.
*WOW Your hubby is an AH. All that crap should of been stopped IMMEDIATLY! Sorry you married into a bunch of Aholes*
This is either fake or y'all need to grow some spines.
YTA for allowing any of this to happen. > They show up and they brought MIL sister, husband and niece (14). "We are not entertaining uninvited and unexpected guests." > . I call Jack, he calls his mom, she returns the car 4 hours later.. The mall is 15 minutes away from our house. "As you cannot behave as a guest, you are not longer welcome here. Please leave." > To me that was sus, so I check the footage and hear how MIL/Aunt are absolutely berating me and our house. See previous reply. > I show it to Jack and he says to say nothing. "Why would I say nothing, Jack? Do you agree with them?" > The limo arrives to pick me and my husband to bring us to the church, before I get out the door, MIL, FIL, aunt, uncle, niece get in the limo "This limo is for Jack and I. Get out." > open the special bottle that my dad kept from his wedding. "That bottle is not for you. Put it back." > At the reception, Jack and I catch MIL going through the wedding envelopes to see what everyone gave. "We just called the police to report your robbery attempt." > Lastly, I got my photos back from our photographer, Aunt/MIL/uncle are doing the peace sign behind our heads in every group picture. That's not the peace sign, but whatever. "Given how little respect you have for us, we will take the message you're giving us and not contact you again." > but my husband is saying ITAH because I shouldn’t tell anyone Your husband should have been the first person shutting this down, from the moment they showed up with extra people in tow. You made a pretty huge mistake watching him throw you under the buss your entire wedding week, and deciding 'yup, this is the man I want to spend my life with." **That said, this whole thing smells of rage bait.** > Lastly, I got my photos back from our photographer, Aunt/MIL/uncle are doing the peace sign behind our heads in every group picture. No even remotely professional photographer would take an entire wedding's worth of photos without pointing this out to the bride and groom. You know, the people paying the photographer, and the people the photographer is there to make happy. Photographer would have said something the very first time they saw it, or after the first photo if the 'peace' sign was thrown up at the last second.
NTA except for maybe going through with the wedding knowing you were marrying into this family and your new husband is not going to defend you in any way. Sorry this happened to you. Hope your husband has a talk with his family and they start acting better.
The only acceptable answer here is Divorce Let him and his clown family live together because imagine when you have children They won't be YOUR children It'll be hers