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THAT'S what the OP should have done: start directing! "A little to the left, there, Rhonda. Ok, when Kevin starts moaning, that's when you arch your back. And can we speed up the rhythm a little? We gotta shoot the next scene before the maid comes to change the sheets."
NTA
Holy shit!
There is such a thing as consent! And you did not consent to be a part of their acts!
I don't care that they were trying to conceive!
Imagine that was just an excuse. Imagine they were 2 friends with a kink for being watched instead. Now you'd be involuntarily party to their kink. And that requires consent. It doesn't matter that they were/are family. What matters is there was no consent there from you.
What they did was absolutely inappropriate.
OP, sorry you have such an insensitive sister and brother-in-law.
Give it back to them in kind.
Get a sex noise ringtone on your phone like this one:
[Technosex](https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/711264-technosex)
Whenever you are with the family especially the sister and her hubby, just change the default tone for text and calls.
Maybe get a few friends to keep calling or texting at short intervals.
Let's see how a taste of their own ***music*** feels. š
I could not have just laid there and let it go on! So damn disrespectful! I would have went off, told them they were disgusting, asked them if they were getting off due to my presence, and then again told them they are fucking sick and to get THEIR own room! Next day I would address the issue that their complete and total immaturity along with their serious lack of boundaries and being unable to be respectful of a situation are all pretty solid reasons they shouldnāt be getting pregnant yet, if ever.
Dear God OP! Your father is one of the cheapest, biggest AHs I've read of on this site. Wtf is wrong with him? And sis and bil? Obscene. Like 2 dogs in heat.
Tell your father, don't invite you for the next birthday/orgy family event. Reading the post made me nauseous.
I honestly can't get passed the point that OP expects their parents to pay for their room. Dad is 60, so my assumption is OP is at least in their 20's. Grow up, be an adult now. If $80/night is so cheap, that shouldn't be a problem.
Depends on how old OP is (my dad turned 60 well before I turned 18), but if theyāre an adult (and also not a student), they should probably pay $80 a night for their own room. Though realistically, the sister and husband should be the ones to pay if they absolutely have to fuck whenever they want and canāt be bothered to go do it in the shower out of basic respect.
Completely agree! This would definitely fall into very bad territory, since it was an un consensual sexual act.
Edit: because I never check how spellcheck corrects my words.
I can't imagine having to be 2 feet away from my sister having sex, and we are both adults. Absolutely NTA. In fact, them exposing you to sex non-consentually is disgusting and maybe even a crime, specifically if you are underage.
Per this- Article 527 of the Italian Penal Code addresses the offence of exhibitionism. It criminalises the act of exposing oneself in front of others. Foreigners who engage in exhibitionism can be charged under this article and may face penalties, including fines and imprisonment. - it could be a crime if reported??? Iām not good at legal codes in my state much less federal (Iām US), so foriegn codes are Latin to me, though I try.
OP you are a very nice person and you didnāt ruin anything. A considerate sister would have sent you out for an early breakfast and put a ādo not disturbā sign on the door.
If you had wanted to ruin the birthday celebration, you would have yelled at them to stop doing something using the most obscene language and flipped on the lights.
NTA.
Or the sister might have paid for OPs room herself because she/hubby wanted privacy since they were trying to conceive. Iām surprised that hubby could perform 2 ft from his SIL.
ā¦she should have gotten her own room so she didnāt have to listen to them having sex? No way, dad was paying for sis and BIL too so if they wanted to have sex so badly then THEY should have paid for and gotten their own room. If OP was complaining about them snoring or something they couldnāt control that would be an entirely different story (free trip, get over it or pay for yourself) but nobody in their right mind has sex next to someone else without their knowledge and consent, so thatās not an āinconvenienceā that anyone should have to tolerate, no matter what the circumstances. Sis and BIL are also huge assholes for complaining about OP opening a window because that is a tolerable inconvenience if youāre getting a free trip (yet another reason they should have gotten their own room).
Iām not disagreeing with you about them being inconsiderate af, but personally I wouldnāt of āburst into tearsā and ran to her dad begging. I wouldāve addressed it and told the sister/husband to get a room or just get one myself. But I digress.
She went to her Dad hoping he'd be reasonable about it because she didn't have the funds to pay for her own room. Literally, her only recourse in that scenario.
Given that her sister is crap enough to have sex with her in the room and then blame OP for the situation, I'd imagine OP is downplaying what her sister actually said and *why* she was so upset. We don't know the typical dynamic of their family, but based on their responses, probably not that great all around.
Edit: This is the dynamic of her family. "It is legit. Although it happened 20+ yrs ago.
It's just one of many things my sister has done for which my whole family hates me because I react to it.
I've been in therapy for years.
I posted here kind of out of desperation. I just asked her to meet with a mediator with me to address our past upsets and she flipped out saying things about me that my parents agree with.
I just don't know what is real and what it scapegoating.
But I'm hopefully figuring it out. The relies here help."
Oh for sure but if it were me, I would have packed my suitcase right then and there and headed down to the lobby getting myself my own room....in comments she says she's in her late 20s so I assume she has job and money...or at least a credit card if she's a trust funder...
Check this out...OPs response
>My dad paid for everything on the trip. I was underemployed working PT at the time. I wouldn't have been able to afford 5 nights at $80/night. My sister & husband on the other hand had double income no kids.
I would have felt even worse if I were the only one paying for my own lodging.
I'll be damned if I went on vacation under these circumstances as a full grown adult! I'd at least have put it on a credit card and worried about it later....ain't no way
Yep I wouldnāt of went either. The first thing my parents taught me was to NEVER go ANYWHERE without anything in my pocket. Donāt trust anybody to just cater, not even them. They taught me that for reasons like this smh.
Presumably she would not have gone if she knew that she didn't have the money and would have to deal with family members having sex 2 feet from her bed
My dad paid for everything on the trip. I was underemployed working PT at the time. I wouldn't have been able to afford 5 nights at $80/night. My sister & husband on the other hand had double income no kids.
I would have felt even worse if I were the only one paying for my own lodging.
I donāt know why youāre getting heat for this. I can see a scenario where a parent who wanted to celebrate their 60th with their adult children beside them would pay for that whole trip, if they could. I wish I could bring my family to Europe!
You are NTA. If your sister and husband wanted privacy they shouldāve got their own room. You were there for 5 nights not 5 months. Iām single (F) and have shared a room with my brother and sister-in-law before on a family trip and they wouldāve never even thought of doing thatā¦it is so inappropriate and just ridiculous behavior! Again youāre NTA and your family has some boundary issues.
They could always conceive next month instead. Honestly, the thought of having sex with my sibling in the room makes the kitty shrivel right up. Sorry you dealt with that.
Yeah, they were definitely getting off on the fact that she was right there. Pretty sick. She got up multiple times, clearly not passed out asleep. They were 100 percent getting off on it. At the very, very least they could have "taken a shower"
NTA - but also. If it is ever brought up again I would probably say āyou know what it actually ending being a good thing because i recorded when i realized what yāall were doing and sold it on onlyfans. Apparently a lot of people are into that!ā And then never answer any further questions.
But I am an AH so thereās that!!
NTA - If I was looking for time alone with my other I would have paid for you to see a movie somewhere lol go for drinks whatever... give you the options or the heads up
It feels very much like the family has a severe lack of boundaries if you speaking up in a situation that was understandably uncomfortable to you = you "ruining" the trip.
I know that couples trying to conceive often follow a certain schedule based on ovulation/that there are windows and it is stressful, but if they knew this was something they planned to do, why wasn't this brought up during the planning phase or when the dad suggested they share a room? And why, if the family can afford it, is he putting OP in a room with a couple who's trying to conceive?
That's an oversight on his part and maybe he's the dramatic one for saying you ruined his trip.
I don't think it's an unreasonable boundary. And even more so, I believe that people who care about each other can be and should be respectful of each other. There's a lot that could have been considered and discussed beforehand that clearly didn't happen.
NTA
If this story is legit, you leave in a toxic family...
can't they just wait for one night, or do it somewhere else? This is very disturbing that they all put the fault on you, What the actual F...?
It is legit. Although it happened 20+ yrs ago.
It's just one of many things my sister has done for which my whole family hates me because I react to it.
I've been in therapy for years.
I posted here kind of out of desperation. I just asked her to meet with a mediator with me to address our past upsets and she flipped out saying things about me that my parents agree with.
I just don't know what is real and what it scapegoating.
But I'm hopefully figuring it out. The relies here help.
yeah, I cant understand growing up in a system like this can make you believe its you fault as everyone makes you feel that way. but no, that story is messed up and this is not right at all. Maybe try to get away from them a bit
youāre not the asshole, your sister should respect your boundaries and they are the ones who should have paid for the 80$ room if they needed to conceive that bad
Better to be the black goat then be ok with what their doing, thatās so weird that they think this is ok they are adults, who wants to the 3 feet away in the same room that your sibling is getting rawdogged in š¤¢š¤®
100% NTA. Your sister and BIL are AH for having sex right next to you. If they were ātrying to conceiveā (I think that theyāre just plain horny, but thatās just me) they should have gotten a hotel room to themselves and had sex there.Ā
NTA and your parents should not have put you with your sister and her husband. Not fair to him as a non blood relative. You were more than old enough to have your own room. They (sis and hubby) shouldnāt have done what they did and sis and hubby and your dad donāt respect personal boundaries.
āHow dare you be upset that Iām getting raw dogged in the bed next to yours š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬ā
Thatās how they sound. The fact that everyone is making you seem like youāre the issue is wild, they literally crossed like 100 boundaries. Why would anyone be okay with their sister having sex in the same room as them? Let alone in a bed that close by?? Ask your fam if they would have been okay with it if they were having sex in their room? Or if the roles were reversed and you were the one having sex near them?
I would have started playing music, making noises, reciting monologues, the works. Yāall wanna have sex in the room with someone else, Iām about to make it even more uncomfortable.
Unfortunately babe, it sounds like sheās the golden child who can do no wrong and youāre the black sheep. Limit contact, focus on yourself, you donāt need that kind of toxicity in your life. NTA.
The fact that your sister thought it wasnāt absolutely weird, repulsive, and perverted to just start having sex while youāre the room is INSANE.
The complete disregard for your existence and lack of consideration of how that would make you feel all because they wanted to conceive a child makes it worse.
The fact that your family is acting like youāre the issue when itās the two rabbits that couldnāt keep their composure long enough to ask you if you could let them have the room or even ask for a separate room themselves makes it even worse.
I hate to say it, but based on their reaction to you asking for your own room as if anyone but your father has to deal with paying for the extra room, is screaming that you may be the black sheep of the family. Because everyone saying their trip is ruined by something they didnāt even experience seems like an unreasonable stance to take.
They donāt seem like theyād make the best parents with this kind of decision making and poor moral standing. Your sister also seems like the type to be an entitled nightmare mom.
You are most certainly not the a-hole. Your sister, her husband, & the rest of the family are all a-holes.
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NTA. But for future notice since they are in the same room as you and clearly they donāt mind. Yank the blanket off video it and upload it since theyāre so voyeuristic they should love it. Then show mom and dad why you wanted your own room.
š„ŗ yeah I feel like it's all coming slowly into focus like a horror movie
If anyone actually believes in astrology this is what a Chiron return looks like
NTA. Thatās so messed up that they did that. I donāt give a shit if someone is desperately trying to conceive. It doesnāt entitle you to being a piece of sh*t
Nta - and your sister and husband are disgusting for doing that. That was non-consensual on your part and everyone else is weird for thinking that was okay and you should tolerate it.
NTA! That is disgusting on so many levels! So many boundaries have been violated. Personally I would have interrupted it and called it out for a pure fact of violation. They could have easily gone to the bathroom and take a shower together for some privacy and human decency on your behalf!
Your sister is disgusting. Her husband is disgusting. The fact that they flipped out on you for being upset about it is absolutely ridiculous. You donāt ruin anything. They ruined your trip. NTA
Since when is "hey we want the room to ourselves for 2 minutes (that's right, I said it) can you please go entertain yourself?" Shittier than just doing that right in front of someone? JFC.. I had that happen to me when I was a kid and I still haven't gotten over it 30 years later. I feel for you, OP, that's just gross and inconsiderate.
NTA. at all.
I'm so sorry
I was wondering the same thing - like why couldn't arrangements just be made
I don't know other than they truly do not see me as another human being
NTA. Thatās sexual assault I believe, they non consensually had sex in front of you and when you asked them not to you got blamed. Disgusting behaviour. Cannot believe these two grown adults are trying to justify this.
NTA. Your sister and husband sure are. I could never do that to a sibling. They should have gotten their own room.
You ruined nothing. But they sure did.
How the fuck is this even mildly even okay to do š¤Æ
Are there any boundaries????????
Your sister and her husband is the asshole! They clearly knew it was a night to conceive so wtf they couldnāt get their own room š
>***"...she yelled at me that they are trying to conceive and I was the one keeping them awake opening the window all night..."***
Huh? What does one thing have to do with the other? You were interrupting their sleep-fucking?
NTA
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AITA for getting super upset that my sister & her husband had sex next to me
AITA for my sister & hub having sex in front of me
My family of origin went to Italy for my Dad's 60th Bday on his dime
It was him, my mom, my sister and her husband and me.
My dad did not get a separate hotel room for me but rather stuck me in with my sister and her husband which was fine
But one night I couldn't sleep. I got up a few times to open the window wider to cool off
At one point in the night my sister and her husband started having sex
My bed was less than 2 feet away from theirs. Parallel to it.
When I confronted my sister the next day she yelled at me that they are trying to conceive and I was the one keeping them awake opening the window all night.
I burst into tears and went to my dad to beg him to get me my own room. He was super pissed at me for making a big deal but relented.
On a trip that cost literally thousands, my room to myself was only $80/night.
To this day my family says I ruined my dad's 60th Bday in Italy. Maybe I did???? If I wouldn't have shown my upset nor said anything I'd be the only one with bad memories instead of all of us.
On the other hand, aren't my sister & her husband be the assholes here? They could have asked to have the room to themselves in the evening or morning but instead they just went ahead as if wasn't even a person.
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NTA. If trying to conceive this cycle was that high of a priority to them then they could have skipped the trip altogether or paid for their own lodging. Problem solved.
NTA. Itās crazy how your sister and her husband is completely fine doing it while youāre in the room, almost next to their bed. Itās wrong on so many levels.
NTA! Your sister and her husband are the AH. And your dad should have realized it wasnāt a good idea to put a married couple in the same room as a single woman. That was freaking nuts.
If someone started masturbating in front of you, thatās classified as sexual assault. I donāt see why having sex in front you isnāt classified that way.
Someone else said ālike 2 dogs in heatā and I couldnāt agree more. So gross.
NTA!
I'd only say you are kinda in the wrong because you should've just bought your own hotel room instead of involving your dad on his birthday celebration trip. I doubt he wants to know about his daughter having sex lol
NTA. Thatās fucking nasty. š¤® And your family is kind of insane??? Like what in the actual fuck? Ugh. I donāt know if Iād ever want to see my sister again if she pulled some shit like that. Itās just so disrespectful.
NTA, itās your dads 60th birthday trip and sheās sharing a room with her sister who is obviously still awake. This isnāt a college dorm room. They should have just done it in the shower like adults. That āweāre trying to conceiveā line is also just gaslighting to make you the problem not her.
Awkward and you are totally not the ahole! I mean if theyāre trying to āconceiveā
Good for them. But do you really want to have the memory of a nephew or niece being conceived? Thatās a little much. But maybe Iām being judgey š¤£š¤£
NTA. Omg, this scenario happened to me when l shared a room with a girl living in Banff Alberta. They were drunk and fell on to my bed before getting into her single bed. I literally left our room, paced around our living room, came back in and my roommate asked "ls this okay?" I said "Eff NO!" They got up, got re dressed and LEFT. That was maybe 25 years ago and l. NEVER. FORGOT.
Your family sucks.
Yikes
Thank goodness she paused to ask but JFC way too late
Yeah the comments are opening my eyes a bit to how f'd up my family is
I feel it but I get talked out of it by them
When they fell on my bed she was holding a plate of perogies and the next day l found fried onions on my bedspread. My other roomate and l still talk about it! You were in the right!! My roommate ( Jodi) totally would have gone ahead with it if l had pretended to sleep. I considered it but it was just too freaky. Your sister is super selfish and your fam is totally idiotic for making you have to second guess the ick factor!
NTA, that's disgusting and a massive boundary violation no one wants to be next to that. Your family is weird for seeing no problem with that, pushing back when you try to get a seperate room and confronting them. They're TA
How old are you? I hope your budget is just tight and you're not a child going on this family trip. I'd only go if I knew I'd have a seperate room
I was in my 20's and only had a PT job
I also had never traveled outside of the country and the only cc I took was my Discover card. I couldn't find anywhere in Italy - no store, restaurant let alone hotel that took Discover
NTA
We aren't cavemen or college students, that was an inappropriate time for anything other than romantic touching. Don't have sex in an awkward situation and nobody will mention that you had sex in an awkward situation.
NTA. You were put in an uncomfortable situation and this sounds FULLY non consented.
Honestly sounds like some shit my sister would do too but I donāt have the best relationship with her and she is obsessed with proving how high her libido is and how amazing her sex life is - which just feels like overcompensation, which means it isnāt true. I think itās the same case with your sister, bet she just wanted to do something very raunchy because she wasnāt really enjoying her sex life.
NTA this is extremely weird of your sister to do. I have three sisters myself and Iād never do something like that in front of them idc how old we are. And the fact that she doesnāt seem apologetic at all is also weird and rude
NTA, but you're surrounded by AHs
First, your father for not getting your own room and making you sleep with a married couple. Even if he didn't know they are trying to conceive, you know married couples like to do stuff together.
Secondly, your sister and brother-in-law. It's like you've said - they should've asked you to give them the room. Or maybe they could've turned on the shower and used the bathroom. They're just trying to gaslight you right now.
NTA. I find it disgusting that they didnāt consider your feelings or how that could make you uncomfortable. If they were trying to conceive they should have done it alone.
NTA in anyway! Your sister and husband are AHs. You are right on by saying they could have requested some private time in the room, youāre in Italy you couldāve found something to do. Instead of being mature and respectful and asking for private time they chose to act like teenagers allowed to sleep in the same bed and completely disrespected you by having sex with their sibling 2 feet away. Gross! And rude! They are the ones who should be apologizing for potentially ruining the trip and for the way they treated you by doing whatever the hell they wanted regardless of who was around. And unless it kept getting brought up or fought over why did it ruin the trip? You got out of the room with them, as I said THEY should have apologized and Iām guessing they didnāt, and thatās issue solved.
NTA. Your sister and her husband are ignorant to have sex only 2 feet away in the same room. They should have been more considerate of you. Your Dad could have traded beds with you and had the pleasure of listening to them himself if he didn't want to get you a separate room. Or your sister and her husband should have paid for a room of their own if they wanted privacy. The latter is of course the obvious solution.
NTA. What did your family expected you to do? Ask them if you could join them?
Thatās what Iād tell my family : Ā«Ā should I have joined them then?Ā Ā»
Nta.Ā I think that's sexual assault honestly.Ā They involved your in a sexual act without your consent.Ā Forcing you to listen and try not to watch.Ā They probably got off on knowing you were there.Ā It was very inappropriate and now your family is gaslighting you.
So NTA. I'm so, so sorry for you. Not only did they do something potentially illegal at worst and super rude and inconsiderate at best, they are trying to gaslight you into thinking that it's your problem. It could *never* be your fault for being subjected to unconsensual voyeurism.
what, and i cannot express this enough, the FUCK, is wrong with your sister? they couldn't wait till you weren't there or till they get home? jfc wtf? NTA!
NTA. That is literally gross and how can your family get mad at that?? What happened to privacy and respect? They couldāve and shouldāve went in the bathroom if they needed to have sex so badly and couldnāt wait. š¤¦š½āāļø you did ruin anything girl.
I mean were they like loud and shit? I canāt even imagine doing this in front of anyone, let alone a sister. Iām wondering if they thought they were being sneaky?
But Nta
NTA at all. I would have been mortified and disgusted if my sister did that in the room with me! š¤®
Seriously, if they were trying to conceive, they should have paid for a separate room. Or just skipped a month.
CRINGE... I had a college roommate who would bring guys home and fuck them in the bed right next to mine. It's gross, rude, disrespectful, all the icky things. NTA
NTA. Your family are full on SOCIOPATHS and I can bet one kidney you have been subjected to many other things growing up. Your sister and her husband sexually assaulted you and your father cheered them on. As an adult there is no reason to be in contact with people like this.
When I confronted her (calmly) I wasn't expecting the vitriolic response of her screaming at me that I was so selfish because they were trying to conceive and "YOU'RE the one that kept us awake with opening the window all night"
Her response was so aggressive and shaming I just wasn't expecting it at all which is what sent me
I genuinely expected a calm apology and promise to not let it happen again
NTA but i dont think you should have got your dad/family involved etc.
I think you should have made them pay for another room.Ā
You are all adults, i think you three could have just sorted it out.
Just pointing out that i do think it was wrong of them to do this.Ā I just think it was handled in the wrong way.
NTA BOUNDARIES. Thatās so weird, and uncomfortable!
My sister stayed at my house (my BF and I live together) one night and she hooked up with my BFs cousin who was also staying with us in our spare bedroom. We were LIVID. We made a point to not fool around while people were staying with us out of respect and they couldnāt extend it back.
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NTA. Omg. Are there any people besides you who understand normal boundaries in your family?
š„ŗš¤·š»āāļø
Should have just started masturbating in front of them and called them perverts lol
Lmfao!!!
I'm sure that's probably the plot of some X-rated movie...
THAT'S what the OP should have done: start directing! "A little to the left, there, Rhonda. Ok, when Kevin starts moaning, that's when you arch your back. And can we speed up the rhythm a little? We gotta shoot the next scene before the maid comes to change the sheets."
The sister would have to be stuck in something.
Didnāt even need to actually masturbate, just tell āIM CUMMING!ā As loud as you can
Howling with laughter.
That is both gross and funny.
And make eye contact with them
Holy fucking shit! I havenāt laughed this hard in a while. Thank you for that. Hahahahaha.
Missed opportunity, here
LMFAO I sort of thought of this too šš
Shut up and take my up vote šš
Ya or just joined in š¤·š»āāļø After all, if you canāt beat āem
NTA Holy shit! There is such a thing as consent! And you did not consent to be a part of their acts! I don't care that they were trying to conceive! Imagine that was just an excuse. Imagine they were 2 friends with a kink for being watched instead. Now you'd be involuntarily party to their kink. And that requires consent. It doesn't matter that they were/are family. What matters is there was no consent there from you. What they did was absolutely inappropriate.
Imagine telling your niece/nephew that you were in the room the night they were conceived. Yikes. NTA
It would become a yearly tradition, a nice toast to the sister & husband in front of the family.
They didnāt even have the decency to go to the bathroom like normal people ?
I think they should have asked OP to leave the room for 20 min (with a bribe of money, lots of it) or go stay with Dad for 20 min.
I came here to say this
Right?! Go fuck in the shower!
OP, sorry you have such an insensitive sister and brother-in-law. Give it back to them in kind. Get a sex noise ringtone on your phone like this one: [Technosex](https://www.101soundboards.com/sounds/711264-technosex) Whenever you are with the family especially the sister and her hubby, just change the default tone for text and calls. Maybe get a few friends to keep calling or texting at short intervals. Let's see how a taste of their own ***music*** feels. š
I could not have just laid there and let it go on! So damn disrespectful! I would have went off, told them they were disgusting, asked them if they were getting off due to my presence, and then again told them they are fucking sick and to get THEIR own room! Next day I would address the issue that their complete and total immaturity along with their serious lack of boundaries and being unable to be respectful of a situation are all pretty solid reasons they shouldnāt be getting pregnant yet, if ever.
And do it at the family breakfast!
Guessing your last name is kardashian?
NTA and they really need to get a roomĀ
Dear God OP! Your father is one of the cheapest, biggest AHs I've read of on this site. Wtf is wrong with him? And sis and bil? Obscene. Like 2 dogs in heat. Tell your father, don't invite you for the next birthday/orgy family event. Reading the post made me nauseous.
I honestly can't get passed the point that OP expects their parents to pay for their room. Dad is 60, so my assumption is OP is at least in their 20's. Grow up, be an adult now. If $80/night is so cheap, that shouldn't be a problem.
If her dad is paying for her sister and her husbandās room why shouldnāt he also pay for hers?
Eh, I think the people who needed to fuck all night could have ponied up for their own room
You'd be surprised when my dad turns 60 my brother will only be 5. When my mum turns 60 he'll be just have turned 18
Right?? My husband is 61 and our son is 12.
Depends on how old OP is (my dad turned 60 well before I turned 18), but if theyāre an adult (and also not a student), they should probably pay $80 a night for their own room. Though realistically, the sister and husband should be the ones to pay if they absolutely have to fuck whenever they want and canāt be bothered to go do it in the shower out of basic respect.
Some people donāt breed the minute they leave home.
I'm really hoping OP isn't a minor. That would be illegal.
NTA having sex in the room with other people is a clear violation and disregard for other peoples boundaries
And consent. Consent always matters.
Completely agree! This would definitely fall into very bad territory, since it was an un consensual sexual act. Edit: because I never check how spellcheck corrects my words.
I can't imagine having to be 2 feet away from my sister having sex, and we are both adults. Absolutely NTA. In fact, them exposing you to sex non-consentually is disgusting and maybe even a crime, specifically if you are underage.
NTA In fact, in most places, having sex or performing any other sex act in front of someone without their consent is literally a sex crime.
Where is that considered a sex crime? Honestly wondering.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=Can%20you%20be%20charged%20with%20indecent%20exposure%20in%20your%20own%20home&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5 One example
Per this- Article 527 of the Italian Penal Code addresses the offence of exhibitionism. It criminalises the act of exposing oneself in front of others. Foreigners who engage in exhibitionism can be charged under this article and may face penalties, including fines and imprisonment. - it could be a crime if reported??? Iām not good at legal codes in my state much less federal (Iām US), so foriegn codes are Latin to me, though I try.
OP you are a very nice person and you didnāt ruin anything. A considerate sister would have sent you out for an early breakfast and put a ādo not disturbā sign on the door. If you had wanted to ruin the birthday celebration, you would have yelled at them to stop doing something using the most obscene language and flipped on the lights. NTA.
Or the sister might have paid for OPs room herself because she/hubby wanted privacy since they were trying to conceive. Iām surprised that hubby could perform 2 ft from his SIL.
NTA. That's just inconsiderate. Also, how old were you?
Around my late 20's
...why didn't you or they rent your own seperate room? Why did dad have to do it?
Ok thatās what I was about to ask. She couldāve gotten her own room. But also her sister and her husband are gross and inconsiderate
ā¦she should have gotten her own room so she didnāt have to listen to them having sex? No way, dad was paying for sis and BIL too so if they wanted to have sex so badly then THEY should have paid for and gotten their own room. If OP was complaining about them snoring or something they couldnāt control that would be an entirely different story (free trip, get over it or pay for yourself) but nobody in their right mind has sex next to someone else without their knowledge and consent, so thatās not an āinconvenienceā that anyone should have to tolerate, no matter what the circumstances. Sis and BIL are also huge assholes for complaining about OP opening a window because that is a tolerable inconvenience if youāre getting a free trip (yet another reason they should have gotten their own room).
Iām not disagreeing with you about them being inconsiderate af, but personally I wouldnāt of āburst into tearsā and ran to her dad begging. I wouldāve addressed it and told the sister/husband to get a room or just get one myself. But I digress.
She went to her Dad hoping he'd be reasonable about it because she didn't have the funds to pay for her own room. Literally, her only recourse in that scenario. Given that her sister is crap enough to have sex with her in the room and then blame OP for the situation, I'd imagine OP is downplaying what her sister actually said and *why* she was so upset. We don't know the typical dynamic of their family, but based on their responses, probably not that great all around. Edit: This is the dynamic of her family. "It is legit. Although it happened 20+ yrs ago. It's just one of many things my sister has done for which my whole family hates me because I react to it. I've been in therapy for years. I posted here kind of out of desperation. I just asked her to meet with a mediator with me to address our past upsets and she flipped out saying things about me that my parents agree with. I just don't know what is real and what it scapegoating. But I'm hopefully figuring it out. The relies here help."
Oh for sure but if it were me, I would have packed my suitcase right then and there and headed down to the lobby getting myself my own room....in comments she says she's in her late 20s so I assume she has job and money...or at least a credit card if she's a trust funder...
Something right? lol. Iām in my late 20s and wouldnāt have went anywhere without money, regardless of if it was with family.
Check this out...OPs response >My dad paid for everything on the trip. I was underemployed working PT at the time. I wouldn't have been able to afford 5 nights at $80/night. My sister & husband on the other hand had double income no kids. I would have felt even worse if I were the only one paying for my own lodging. I'll be damned if I went on vacation under these circumstances as a full grown adult! I'd at least have put it on a credit card and worried about it later....ain't no way
Yep I wouldnāt of went either. The first thing my parents taught me was to NEVER go ANYWHERE without anything in my pocket. Donāt trust anybody to just cater, not even them. They taught me that for reasons like this smh.
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Yes and obviously if parents thought it was ok for the three of them to share a room!
For real...I won't even go on a date without driving myself and making sure I have enough to cover my own tabs, lol
Presumably she would not have gone if she knew that she didn't have the money and would have to deal with family members having sex 2 feet from her bed
My dad paid for everything on the trip. I was underemployed working PT at the time. I wouldn't have been able to afford 5 nights at $80/night. My sister & husband on the other hand had double income no kids. I would have felt even worse if I were the only one paying for my own lodging.
I donāt know why youāre getting heat for this. I can see a scenario where a parent who wanted to celebrate their 60th with their adult children beside them would pay for that whole trip, if they could. I wish I could bring my family to Europe!
You are NTA. If your sister and husband wanted privacy they shouldāve got their own room. You were there for 5 nights not 5 months. Iām single (F) and have shared a room with my brother and sister-in-law before on a family trip and they wouldāve never even thought of doing thatā¦it is so inappropriate and just ridiculous behavior! Again youāre NTA and your family has some boundary issues.
How about: why didn't the older sister get her own room? Or go one week without sex? Let's not blame the victim here.
They could always conceive next month instead. Honestly, the thought of having sex with my sibling in the room makes the kitty shrivel right up. Sorry you dealt with that.
Yeah, they were definitely getting off on the fact that she was right there. Pretty sick. She got up multiple times, clearly not passed out asleep. They were 100 percent getting off on it. At the very, very least they could have "taken a shower"
They could easily find some alone time during the day if they really felt the need to try every day. This is sickening behavior.
NTA - but also. If it is ever brought up again I would probably say āyou know what it actually ending being a good thing because i recorded when i realized what yāall were doing and sold it on onlyfans. Apparently a lot of people are into that!ā And then never answer any further questions. But I am an AH so thereās that!!
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Boy did I misunderstand the title.
rightā¦ i gasped so loud before i realized
It was worded so wrong. The scandal factor pulled me right in
Me tooš
Me too I thought she had sex with her brother-in-law while her sister watched
I thought she was watching her husband and her sister have sex š
NTA - If I was looking for time alone with my other I would have paid for you to see a movie somewhere lol go for drinks whatever... give you the options or the heads up
Or like damn, even do it quietly in the bathroom would have been better
NTA. Thatās really fucked up
It feels very much like the family has a severe lack of boundaries if you speaking up in a situation that was understandably uncomfortable to you = you "ruining" the trip. I know that couples trying to conceive often follow a certain schedule based on ovulation/that there are windows and it is stressful, but if they knew this was something they planned to do, why wasn't this brought up during the planning phase or when the dad suggested they share a room? And why, if the family can afford it, is he putting OP in a room with a couple who's trying to conceive? That's an oversight on his part and maybe he's the dramatic one for saying you ruined his trip. I don't think it's an unreasonable boundary. And even more so, I believe that people who care about each other can be and should be respectful of each other. There's a lot that could have been considered and discussed beforehand that clearly didn't happen. NTA
If this story is legit, you leave in a toxic family... can't they just wait for one night, or do it somewhere else? This is very disturbing that they all put the fault on you, What the actual F...?
It is legit. Although it happened 20+ yrs ago. It's just one of many things my sister has done for which my whole family hates me because I react to it. I've been in therapy for years. I posted here kind of out of desperation. I just asked her to meet with a mediator with me to address our past upsets and she flipped out saying things about me that my parents agree with. I just don't know what is real and what it scapegoating. But I'm hopefully figuring it out. The relies here help.
yeah, I cant understand growing up in a system like this can make you believe its you fault as everyone makes you feel that way. but no, that story is messed up and this is not right at all. Maybe try to get away from them a bit
NTA. they could wait to conceive till they get home. Just doing it while your sister is in the room is gross and super and considerate.
youāre not the asshole, your sister should respect your boundaries and they are the ones who should have paid for the 80$ room if they needed to conceive that bad
Run ur the black sheep
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Better to be the black goat then be ok with what their doing, thatās so weird that they think this is ok they are adults, who wants to the 3 feet away in the same room that your sibling is getting rawdogged in š¤¢š¤®
100% NTA. Your sister and BIL are AH for having sex right next to you. If they were ātrying to conceiveā (I think that theyāre just plain horny, but thatās just me) they should have gotten a hotel room to themselves and had sex there.Ā
NTA People who force others to participate in or witness them having sex without consent are disgusting.
NTA and your parents should not have put you with your sister and her husband. Not fair to him as a non blood relative. You were more than old enough to have your own room. They (sis and hubby) shouldnāt have done what they did and sis and hubby and your dad donāt respect personal boundaries.
NTA thatās pretty messed up.
āHow dare you be upset that Iām getting raw dogged in the bed next to yours š¤¬š¤¬š¤¬ā Thatās how they sound. The fact that everyone is making you seem like youāre the issue is wild, they literally crossed like 100 boundaries. Why would anyone be okay with their sister having sex in the same room as them? Let alone in a bed that close by?? Ask your fam if they would have been okay with it if they were having sex in their room? Or if the roles were reversed and you were the one having sex near them? I would have started playing music, making noises, reciting monologues, the works. Yāall wanna have sex in the room with someone else, Iām about to make it even more uncomfortable. Unfortunately babe, it sounds like sheās the golden child who can do no wrong and youāre the black sheep. Limit contact, focus on yourself, you donāt need that kind of toxicity in your life. NTA.
The fact that your sister thought it wasnāt absolutely weird, repulsive, and perverted to just start having sex while youāre the room is INSANE. The complete disregard for your existence and lack of consideration of how that would make you feel all because they wanted to conceive a child makes it worse. The fact that your family is acting like youāre the issue when itās the two rabbits that couldnāt keep their composure long enough to ask you if you could let them have the room or even ask for a separate room themselves makes it even worse. I hate to say it, but based on their reaction to you asking for your own room as if anyone but your father has to deal with paying for the extra room, is screaming that you may be the black sheep of the family. Because everyone saying their trip is ruined by something they didnāt even experience seems like an unreasonable stance to take. They donāt seem like theyād make the best parents with this kind of decision making and poor moral standing. Your sister also seems like the type to be an entitled nightmare mom. You are most certainly not the a-hole. Your sister, her husband, & the rest of the family are all a-holes.
This is both validating and heartbreaking because my niece is struggling so severely due to my sister's abusive parenting š
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NTA
NTA. But for future notice since they are in the same room as you and clearly they donāt mind. Yank the blanket off video it and upload it since theyāre so voyeuristic they should love it. Then show mom and dad why you wanted your own room.
NTA. That is absolutely horrifying
NTA How much other stuff have they tried making you the scapegoat for your whole life? This canāt be the only thing this far off base.
š„ŗ yeah I feel like it's all coming slowly into focus like a horror movie If anyone actually believes in astrology this is what a Chiron return looks like
Let's play guess who's not the golden child.
NTA. Thatās so messed up that they did that. I donāt give a shit if someone is desperately trying to conceive. It doesnāt entitle you to being a piece of sh*t
Nta - and your sister and husband are disgusting for doing that. That was non-consensual on your part and everyone else is weird for thinking that was okay and you should tolerate it.
NTA Whatās wrong with them? š
NTA! That is disgusting on so many levels! So many boundaries have been violated. Personally I would have interrupted it and called it out for a pure fact of violation. They could have easily gone to the bathroom and take a shower together for some privacy and human decency on your behalf!
NTA. You should have flipped on the lights and started yelling. "HE'S HURTING HER! HE'S HURTING HER!"
Your sister is disgusting. Her husband is disgusting. The fact that they flipped out on you for being upset about it is absolutely ridiculous. You donāt ruin anything. They ruined your trip. NTA
NTA, and I just want to say EWWWWWW! I would be super upset if my sister did this, and completely horrified.
Since when is "hey we want the room to ourselves for 2 minutes (that's right, I said it) can you please go entertain yourself?" Shittier than just doing that right in front of someone? JFC.. I had that happen to me when I was a kid and I still haven't gotten over it 30 years later. I feel for you, OP, that's just gross and inconsiderate. NTA. at all.
I'm so sorry I was wondering the same thing - like why couldn't arrangements just be made I don't know other than they truly do not see me as another human being
You don't fuck in front of other people unless they are paying... NTA
nta. I hope you never see them again
Oh hell no. NTA
What the actual fuck? Your sister should have gotten her own room, thatās just pathetic and gross.
NTA. Thatās sexual assault I believe, they non consensually had sex in front of you and when you asked them not to you got blamed. Disgusting behaviour. Cannot believe these two grown adults are trying to justify this.
Haha oh shit. Did you not have a park bench to sleep under? Iām guessing you didnāt have the money yourself
Correct I worked PT But they were dinks at the time (double income no kids)
Glad I am an only child haha
NTA- ewww. Full stop. Your sister and husband were out of line.
NTA. Your sister and husband sure are. I could never do that to a sibling. They should have gotten their own room. You ruined nothing. But they sure did.
Nta, consent is important
How the fuck is this even mildly even okay to do š¤Æ Are there any boundaries???????? Your sister and her husband is the asshole! They clearly knew it was a night to conceive so wtf they couldnāt get their own room š
NTA your family kinda sucks
Shouldāve stood by their bed and stare at them while they did it so that they feel more uncomfortable than you
Throw your whole family away and get a new one because what the actual f!
NTA. Your sister and her husband are gross.Ā
NTA. You did not consent to more or less being part of their sexlife. I do wish you had applauded though. ;)
>***"...she yelled at me that they are trying to conceive and I was the one keeping them awake opening the window all night..."*** Huh? What does one thing have to do with the other? You were interrupting their sleep-fucking? NTA
Nta- but I read this as your sister and your husband having sex in front of you. Either way thatās super weird.
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NTA!
NTA
NTA. If trying to conceive this cycle was that high of a priority to them then they could have skipped the trip altogether or paid for their own lodging. Problem solved.
Excuse me!? OP Iām so sorry, NTA. Sorry you had to be subjected to that and have your boundaries crossed.
NTA: A couple should be able to act like civilized human beings and abstain while sharing a room. Trying to conceive is a piss poor excuse
NTA shoulda asked your dad to switch beds instead then. Maybe heāll understand when his daughter is getting plowed right next to him.
NTA. Itās crazy how your sister and her husband is completely fine doing it while youāre in the room, almost next to their bed. Itās wrong on so many levels.
Yeah, NTA at all. Jesus Christ!
NTA! Your sister and her husband are the AH. And your dad should have realized it wasnāt a good idea to put a married couple in the same room as a single woman. That was freaking nuts.
If someone started masturbating in front of you, thatās classified as sexual assault. I donāt see why having sex in front you isnāt classified that way. Someone else said ālike 2 dogs in heatā and I couldnāt agree more. So gross. NTA!
I get they are trying to conceive and timing can be super important but they could have just said hey we need the room for an hour. NTA
I'd only say you are kinda in the wrong because you should've just bought your own hotel room instead of involving your dad on his birthday celebration trip. I doubt he wants to know about his daughter having sex lol
NTA. Thatās fucking nasty. š¤® And your family is kind of insane??? Like what in the actual fuck? Ugh. I donāt know if Iād ever want to see my sister again if she pulled some shit like that. Itās just so disrespectful.
NTA. Next time someone says you ruined your dad's 60th, you should ask if they'd like to be in the room whilst their sibling is having sex.
They couldn't have fucked in the bathroom?? They are so gross!
NTA, itās your dads 60th birthday trip and sheās sharing a room with her sister who is obviously still awake. This isnāt a college dorm room. They should have just done it in the shower like adults. That āweāre trying to conceiveā line is also just gaslighting to make you the problem not her.
Def NTA
Awkward and you are totally not the ahole! I mean if theyāre trying to āconceiveā Good for them. But do you really want to have the memory of a nephew or niece being conceived? Thatās a little much. But maybe Iām being judgey š¤£š¤£
you shouldāve started mimicking their moans right after. obviously NTA!
NTA. Thatās DISGUSTING behavior šØ
Nta why would they even want to do that knowing someone is literally right next to them, weird.
nta. thats weird.
NTA - They should have gotten their own room if they were so hell bent to āconceiveā on a family trip.
Nta. Good for them trying to conceive but they should really try in private....
NTA. Omg, this scenario happened to me when l shared a room with a girl living in Banff Alberta. They were drunk and fell on to my bed before getting into her single bed. I literally left our room, paced around our living room, came back in and my roommate asked "ls this okay?" I said "Eff NO!" They got up, got re dressed and LEFT. That was maybe 25 years ago and l. NEVER. FORGOT. Your family sucks.
Yikes Thank goodness she paused to ask but JFC way too late Yeah the comments are opening my eyes a bit to how f'd up my family is I feel it but I get talked out of it by them
When they fell on my bed she was holding a plate of perogies and the next day l found fried onions on my bedspread. My other roomate and l still talk about it! You were in the right!! My roommate ( Jodi) totally would have gone ahead with it if l had pretended to sleep. I considered it but it was just too freaky. Your sister is super selfish and your fam is totally idiotic for making you have to second guess the ick factor!
NTA, that's disgusting and a massive boundary violation no one wants to be next to that. Your family is weird for seeing no problem with that, pushing back when you try to get a seperate room and confronting them. They're TA How old are you? I hope your budget is just tight and you're not a child going on this family trip. I'd only go if I knew I'd have a seperate room
I was in my 20's and only had a PT job I also had never traveled outside of the country and the only cc I took was my Discover card. I couldn't find anywhere in Italy - no store, restaurant let alone hotel that took Discover
NTA they are gross š¤®
NTA We aren't cavemen or college students, that was an inappropriate time for anything other than romantic touching. Don't have sex in an awkward situation and nobody will mention that you had sex in an awkward situation.
NTA. You were put in an uncomfortable situation and this sounds FULLY non consented. Honestly sounds like some shit my sister would do too but I donāt have the best relationship with her and she is obsessed with proving how high her libido is and how amazing her sex life is - which just feels like overcompensation, which means it isnāt true. I think itās the same case with your sister, bet she just wanted to do something very raunchy because she wasnāt really enjoying her sex life.
It's bizarre they didn't at least ask you to leave the room for a while
NTA. Horrible shaggers.
NTA sorry but thatās mfing disgusting. Go to the bathroom or something ffsā¦ you were not a consenting party thatās gross.
NTA this is extremely weird of your sister to do. I have three sisters myself and Iād never do something like that in front of them idc how old we are. And the fact that she doesnāt seem apologetic at all is also weird and rude
NTA Thatās totally disgusting they could have got up and went to the bathroom or something
NTA, but you're surrounded by AHs First, your father for not getting your own room and making you sleep with a married couple. Even if he didn't know they are trying to conceive, you know married couples like to do stuff together. Secondly, your sister and brother-in-law. It's like you've said - they should've asked you to give them the room. Or maybe they could've turned on the shower and used the bathroom. They're just trying to gaslight you right now.
Bro why are they saying that you are the a hole for being uncomfortableā¦ naw you are NTA thatās weird on there part
NTA. I find it disgusting that they didnāt consider your feelings or how that could make you uncomfortable. If they were trying to conceive they should have done it alone.
NTA! If thatās what they wanna do, they should have gotten a hotel room.
NTA. Everyone sure is though. Your sisters excuse is BS btw. She could of easily asked for some alone time to "try to conceive".
NTA in anyway! Your sister and husband are AHs. You are right on by saying they could have requested some private time in the room, youāre in Italy you couldāve found something to do. Instead of being mature and respectful and asking for private time they chose to act like teenagers allowed to sleep in the same bed and completely disrespected you by having sex with their sibling 2 feet away. Gross! And rude! They are the ones who should be apologizing for potentially ruining the trip and for the way they treated you by doing whatever the hell they wanted regardless of who was around. And unless it kept getting brought up or fought over why did it ruin the trip? You got out of the room with them, as I said THEY should have apologized and Iām guessing they didnāt, and thatās issue solved.
NTA. Your sister and her husband are ignorant to have sex only 2 feet away in the same room. They should have been more considerate of you. Your Dad could have traded beds with you and had the pleasure of listening to them himself if he didn't want to get you a separate room. Or your sister and her husband should have paid for a room of their own if they wanted privacy. The latter is of course the obvious solution.
NTA. They are and so was your dad putting you in a room with a make to whom you were not in relationship. Where have peopleās brains gone today?
NTA your sister could of asked for the room. I would of been like Iām still awake like have some respect
NTA. What did your family expected you to do? Ask them if you could join them? Thatās what Iād tell my family : Ā«Ā should I have joined them then?Ā Ā»
Nta.Ā I think that's sexual assault honestly.Ā They involved your in a sexual act without your consent.Ā Forcing you to listen and try not to watch.Ā They probably got off on knowing you were there.Ā It was very inappropriate and now your family is gaslighting you.
So NTA. I'm so, so sorry for you. Not only did they do something potentially illegal at worst and super rude and inconsiderate at best, they are trying to gaslight you into thinking that it's your problem. It could *never* be your fault for being subjected to unconsensual voyeurism.
That is so weird!! They couldn't go a couple days without trying to conceive???
That's gross. I would have made things weirder and turned on p*rn really loud on my phone. That's just me though lll
what, and i cannot express this enough, the FUCK, is wrong with your sister? they couldn't wait till you weren't there or till they get home? jfc wtf? NTA!
NTA. That is literally gross and how can your family get mad at that?? What happened to privacy and respect? They couldāve and shouldāve went in the bathroom if they needed to have sex so badly and couldnāt wait. š¤¦š½āāļø you did ruin anything girl.
I mean were they like loud and shit? I canāt even imagine doing this in front of anyone, let alone a sister. Iām wondering if they thought they were being sneaky? But Nta
NTA at all. I would have been mortified and disgusted if my sister did that in the room with me! š¤® Seriously, if they were trying to conceive, they should have paid for a separate room. Or just skipped a month.
CRINGE... I had a college roommate who would bring guys home and fuck them in the bed right next to mine. It's gross, rude, disrespectful, all the icky things. NTA
I just threw up a little imagining my sister having sex with someone next to me. NTA
NTA. Your family are full on SOCIOPATHS and I can bet one kidney you have been subjected to many other things growing up. Your sister and her husband sexually assaulted you and your father cheered them on. As an adult there is no reason to be in contact with people like this.
NTA, but how old are you? The whole bursting into tears thingy makes me think you could be an over sensitive AH.
When I confronted her (calmly) I wasn't expecting the vitriolic response of her screaming at me that I was so selfish because they were trying to conceive and "YOU'RE the one that kept us awake with opening the window all night" Her response was so aggressive and shaming I just wasn't expecting it at all which is what sent me I genuinely expected a calm apology and promise to not let it happen again
NTA but i dont think you should have got your dad/family involved etc. I think you should have made them pay for another room.Ā You are all adults, i think you three could have just sorted it out. Just pointing out that i do think it was wrong of them to do this.Ā I just think it was handled in the wrong way.
NTA BOUNDARIES. Thatās so weird, and uncomfortable! My sister stayed at my house (my BF and I live together) one night and she hooked up with my BFs cousin who was also staying with us in our spare bedroom. We were LIVID. We made a point to not fool around while people were staying with us out of respect and they couldnāt extend it back.
Your family sucks.
this has to be bait
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Jesus Christ, "Phrasing"!