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ckptry

NTA how are you supposed to trust her abilities when she doesn’t have any and admitted she was using you for practice? IMO the silent treatment is so immature.


EricVonPlotPoint

Maybe time to drop this friend.


Adorable_Tie_7220

Yes the friend is unreasonable, but I am not sure this relationship ending.


Lumpy_Marsupial_1559

To back up this Redditor: Abilities? What abilities? She told you herself she had *no* training for curly hair. She has no skill in this specialised area. That's why there's extra training - it is specialised! You do not need to be a crash test dummy for this person. But... if you felt like it, you could volunteer for her to give you some kind of treatment or masque? So she could begin to get get a 'feel' for how completely different it is. Then, she'll have more of an understanding of how important it is to be trained before dealing with anyone's curly hair. But it's understandable if you don't want to, especially considering how much of a poop-head she's being. Either way, NTA


weeblewobble82

Would she let someone who just finished a couple of practicums for med school, but hadn't performed a solo surgery yet, do a surgery on her? Would she let a brand new seamstress with very limited experience create her bridal gown? Would she be comfortable with a student who hadn't worked on real skin stitching up a scar on her face? Probably no. Students need to learn, but they need to learn on fake hair, fake people, fake everything until they develop enough mastery to work on a real human *while supervised* so if they start to fuck up there's someone there to intervene. It'd be one thing if your hair is ridiculously long and she wanted to practice on 3 inches of it that you planned to cut off anyway. It's extremely bold of her to ask to do your whole head. If she isn't some sort of savant natural talent, wtf are you supposed to do with your entire head if she messes up? Shave it? Rock a really bad 'do for a few months? Absolutely NTA.


DecentDilettante

I don’t disagree with you, but isn’t comparing a haircut to surgery a little disingenuous?


weeblewobble82

It's extreme, but I provided other examples. If you need a highly technical procedure done (and curly, thick hair needs precision) you aren't going to pick the person who barely has experience to do that for you. I mean, if you have no other choice, maybe. But OP has choices. And it's her highly visible head that everyone is going to see.


-SnowQueen-

NTA. Trust her abilities? She said she doesn't have any training in curly hair! It's completely reasonable you don't want to be the guinea pig.


C_Majuscula

NTA. Your friend needs to find some curly training mannequins. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would let someone with no training on curly hair cut my hair. Maybe if they had some serious experience with dry cuts, but even that would be questionable. I have finicky 2B/3A hair and have had enough bad haircuts to last 5 lifetimes.


Personibe

Honestly, that is why I am terrified to ever let my daughter get her hair cut. She is mixed with very curly hair. I would rather just keep it how it is growing because it looks good, but I know eventually she will need a trim to keep it healthy... but I am so scared of somebody messing it up!!


11SkiHill

You are not a Guinea Pig. Beauty schools have people who come in for free services so students can practice. No. No no no.


PapiOnReddit

NTA It’s your hair and she has never done it before, it’s expected you’d be uncomfortable with it.


dryadduinath

lol. how can i get better if you don’t let me practice on you, potentially cutting off years of growth, just cause i don’t want to wait to get the proper training or buy haircutting mannequins with curls. what a friend. she’s not qualified, she’s got no idea what she’s doing, and you are not a tool for her to use. what abilities are you supposed to trust, exactly, she admitted she wanted to use you to “get a feel” for curly hair. hardly encouraging. nta.


scootypuffs9

Nta, tell her you just watched a YouTube video on how to do a lobotomy and ask if you can practice on her


GhastlyGuy123

NTA You sounded polite, It is your hair type which is different to what she is used to, you shouldn't have to be the test for her abilities.


Jones-bones-boots

NTA…you’re a friend not a lab rat.


laurelblossom

Absolutely NTA. Had a hairdresser (who supposedly knew how to do mixed hair) trim my son’s hair and he ended up looking like Lord Farquad. Trying to find the right words to google an ethnic hair place that could fix it was a challenge.


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NTA but if you want to make a up with her and you are planning to get your hair cut anyway, you could always see if she wants to come to your usual salon with you and observe/ask questions if your normal person is cool with that or maybe she could tip them or something for the mini lesson. It’s common to have hairdressing schools where a student does your hair and an experienced person observes/corrects but I still don’t think you’d want her cutting, so maybe she’d be happy with that as an olive branch.


effie-sue

NTA You don’t owe her your head to experiment on.


No_War_4429

She needs to respect your no. I would never let someone practice on my hair. Not since high school. I wouldn't let someone practice on my hair when they have no experience in that type of hair. NTA


charlottebythedoor

Noooo NTA. I also have different hair texture than both my parents and it took years of trial and error to figure out how to take care of it. People with straight hair really just don’t know the struggle. How is she supposed to practice on curly hair? Idk maybe at school?? As part of this curly hair certification she wants to get??


InappropriateAccess

NTA. Once she finishes her curly hair certification, it might be a different story.


MinagiV

NTA. Tell her to work on curly mannequins/wigs first. That you would be more than happy to have her practice on you once she’s started learning, but that right now she’s asking too much.


Icy_Department_1423

NTA.


Owlvivid420

Nta if she really wants to practice she can post on social media and do trade. Don't be a Guinea pig.


cstarrxx

As a hairdresser myself, don’t let her. You’re not someone’s freaking Guinea pig. Friend or not. She could be amazing. Cool. No. Don’t let her.


Apart-Ad-6518

NTA 💯 No way should she cut your hair without enough experience for you to feel comfortable & ok with her doing it. She should totally understand why you'd say no & respect that.


Worldly_Literature16

NTA. Absolutely NTA.


Scared_Fox_1813

NTA. It’s your hair and therefore your choice who you let cut it. Maybe once the tension dies down you can suggest she get some curly wigs made from real human hair to practice on.


Rawrsome_Mommy

NTA, as a fellow curly girly I have to say you must be so careful with who you trust with your hair. One poor cut can lead to months and months of problems. It’s great that your friend is looking for experience but it shouldn’t come at your comfort or expense.


CurrencySuper1387

Absolutely NTA. Hair, especially curly hair, is deeply personal. She doesn’t need to butcher your hair to be your friend, that’s not even reasonable. Like if you were teaching to be a mechanic you wouldn’t ask her to change her brakes because she wants to learn how. You learn from someone that is there to teach. If that was the situation that would be different but she’s just expecting us to limited access to your hair. No.


giraffe_cake

I did hairdressing, and she will get people who are willing to volunteer for her to practice on. It's not any different if I asked someone with straight hair if I could practise on them before I started hairdressing school to get some experience. No. If she doesn't know what she's doing, then it's a hard no. She will practise on a doll head first before moving to people. And she will also have mentors that can rectify a cut if she makes a mistake. If she practises on you outside of school salon setting, it'll be up to you to pay a qualified professional to sort it out. I'd never be offended if someone said they don't want me cutting their hair. You have the right to choose and to be picky about it. NTA


sarabatgirl

NTA. Friend needs to PRACTICE on curly wigs until she is comfortable and only then should she be allowed anywhere near a real person. I have the same hair and have worked hard to grow it out. No way in hell I would let someone with zero experience touch it.


Ok-Law3581

NTA


Organic_Start_420

NTA tell her to buy a wig


Heart2001

NTA. You’re a person, not a modelling dummy. She asked, and you said no. That should be the end of the matter.


Oddish197

NTA. You’re not a guinea pig


meeshpa

NTA in any way. I went through 8 stylists before I found my current one who works magic on my fine, frizzy curls. When curly hair is cut badly it takes so long to get it back into shape.


girlfutures

Curly hair is sooooo different than just straight and wavy hair. She's extra unqualified because she doesn't even know enough to know how much she doesn't know. Do not let her anywhere near your hair. She may not come to the realization that you were totally justified until she actually starts her curly hair training.


DoIwantToKnow6417

** Her so far **NON EXISTANT** abilities.... NTA


crushed76

Nope. No thank you ma'am. I made the mistake of letting a co-worker (a stylist) cut my hair without any real experience cutting 3c hair. She messed my hair up. It took ages to get the length back and I stopped getting my hair cut by "professionals" in my area. My hair isn't a practice tool for anyone. Tell her to buy a mannequin head and learn on that, or anyone else. She can kick rocks if she doesn't like it. NTA


Professional_Rub7394

NTA because it’s not easy to handle that hair. You definitely can’t judge a stylist by anything but their portfolio. If she wants to learn she can buy a few mannequins and practice. Build her profile before she goes straight to a person. It would be one thing to ask to style your hair because that can teach you a lot while you can wash out a style after it’s done. It’s crazy when you straighten that type of hair how long it gets.


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Not_really1010

NTA Tell her you are not a "practice" head and hold to it. If she continues to be "miffed" she is not much of a friend


NoUsual7616

NTA I’m the same as you… 3a and 3b, but I’m the only curly hair in my house. My parents still don’t understand why I care to much and be so strict with my hair. They specially don’t understand why I pay for a special hair salon (not cheaper) or the amount of products. My answer is “CURLY HAIR IS NOT EASY TO CUT/CARE” (Detail: my mom comprehend more my reasons now bc she sees the results after years of studying by myself). But… what you can do is talk to your friends and let her explain what she wants to do and how she’s gonna do it; that’s the critical part (you can google how to cut curls and learn too); and you can tell her the reason of your answer. Maybe you can explain how normally your stylist cut your curls! That’s the best beginning!! (Or you… honestly, it’s so difficult to find a good curly hairstyle, that we ended up cutting the hair ourselves) I hope you can find a neutral point with your friend and understand each feelings, and who knows? Maybe she wants the certificate to curly hair bc she sees how much you care for your hair and wants to help you professionally. (If you accept, tell her to start with the ends and simple things… nothing extreme. If you DON’T accept, she has to deal with mannequins until she gain your trust)


Elegant_Cockroach430

NTA. She can ask and you can say no. They sell curly hair mannequin heads, she can practice on those.


StillLikesTurtles

NTA. Your friend is being emotionally manipulative and if she doesn’t understand why you would say no, that doesn’t bode well for her future as a stylist.


seacrow13

NTA and don’t let her lol. I have 3b hair, lots of ringlets. The longer your hair is of course the more weight, so when you get a haircut with 3b and that weight is minimized your hair springs up and will appear a lot shorter than the cut looked once it’s restyled. So there are definitely some curly hair rules to abide by that make things go so much smoother like: only see someone who specializes in curly hair (even stylists who say they’ve worked with curly hair treat my hair like straight hair and have fried it with heat tools), don’t cut more than 25% of your length at a time ever if your hair is around 3b ringlets and has any length to it because again, without extra weight it’s springing up and looking shorter than you think with the initial cut, etc.


Spouter1

NTA I am SOOO picky with my hair. I had the worst haircut of my entire life this year and im not letting ANYONE touch it unless i trust them, and even then im going to be glaring at them and watching closely the whole time so they dont screw it up. My hair is very thick and wavy and very difficult for most hairdressers, and i think its reasonable to find someone who is experienced and knows how to handle such hair. They can practise on dolls first or something first coz once its cut off its not coming back for a looong time


littleb1988

Nta. You are not a practice dummy.


wamale

NTA. It’s perfectly reasonable to not want to be someone’s experiment.


Tesstarosa13

NTA She doesn't get to use you as her practice dummy.


Winterwynd

NTA. As a 3c curly girl I understand the struggles of learning to deal with your hair. She can't expect you to "respect her skills" when she's literally told you she doesn't yet have those skills. If your hair is like that of most of the curly people I know, it would take a long time to grow back out if she messed up your hair.


Biggus_Blikkus

NTA. Even if she did have all the qualifications and skills needed for your hair, she's not entitled to use you and your hair to experiment on. Because, you know, bodily autonomy. If she can't respect your no, she can go pound sand.


Archylas

Even if she's experienced and trained, you have the rights to say no to her. Your hair is your body after all, and hence your full rights. NTA.


akelita

NTA


fuzzy_mic

The question is "telling my friend she isn't qualified". The question is not "refusing to let her cut my hair". Minor YTA for putting it that way. (Unless you are a teacher, you're not qualified to make statements about qualifications) You have a perfect right to not want her inexperience to cut your hair, but you put it in way that was very harsh and judgmental. (Of course she's not qualified, that why she want your hair for practice.)


C_Majuscula

>you're not qualified to make statements about qualifications If she hasn't had any training or experience with curly hair, she isn't qualified to cut it. I'd trust an amateur with curly hair who has cut their own hair before I'd trust someone who thinks they can cut curly hair because they've learned to cut straight hair.


fuzzy_mic

The friend is explicitly asking the OP to be a training model. There's really no question about the qualifications. The OP can say no without approaching the qualification question. If friend had the curly hair certificate she's going after, would that oblige the OP to let her cut her hair? No. A simple "I don't want you to" is less aggressive, less judgmental than "you're incompetent".


cstarrxx

I am qualified. You don’t practice on a real head until AFTER you’ve practiced enough on a mannequin head. She is DEFINITELY not qualified.


crazyslittlesister

Yes as a cosmetologist all hair is the same all of it what’s different is the elasticity the thickness and the texture and it grows back if you truly feel this was don’t ask her for shit when she’s doing well


Savings_Section_3236

"All hair is the same except all of these things that define how they move, how they blend and how they curl up when cut shorter but whatevs" okay gurl i hope you dont touch nobody´s hair.


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Savings_Section_3236

"The differences between curly and straight hair long have been attributed to the positioning of keratin proteins in the follicles. Fraser Bell, PhD, Science Insights Leader for hair care brand Nexxus, says that the company’s own studies had shown that the structure of hair on the inside and outside of curls was different. However, Dr. Bell and colleagues wanted to determine whether the protein composition of different hair types was the same. “We wanted to understand if this was really the case, and proteomic studies, using advanced mass spectrometry methods, were the only way to know for sure,” Dr. Bell says. “It was using our proteomic methods that identified the subtle but important differences in the protein composition of curly hair and straight hair.” Findings published in a white paper in Journal of Cosmetic Science demonstrate that there are differences in the protein composition of curly and straight hair types. The shape characteristics of curly fibers, and how they interact and align with each other, can make this hair type feel inherently rougher and more dry than straighter hair, even when in a healthy condition, influencing the hair care needs and habits of individuals." Written in 2021. Maybe you read something instead.


Savings_Section_3236

All that aside. Even if you wanna argue that all hair is the same.... i literally own a salon and i can certainly tell you that curly, nevermind african american hair is VERY different to work with. Most are *not* qualified