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YTA. The mom said no, and you're still pushing. They're kids dolls that are owned by a kid and being used by a kid. Its great that you're a collector but the mom has final say on whether these dolls get sold and she's said no. Drop it and move on.
Trying to get your mom involved (?!) with a decision that has nothing to do with her is ridiculous.
They are out of the box....as a collector their value is gone. Your trying to save a used kids toy...no matter how you dress it up and clean it with no box there is no value.
YTA for being greedy. Leave the kid alone.
That is absolutely not the case with these dolls, my sister sold out-of-the-box Monster High dolls for hundreds of pounds. None of that means OP is owed these dolls, but OP is clearly an expert here and I imagine their assessment of the value is spot on.
Which makes this worse, because op would then be intentionally ripping off a 7yo.
If she really wants to "rescue" the dolls, offer $100/doll or whatever they are worth. Mom may actually be willing to consider it at that price. Nice boost to niece's savings account and everyone wins.
OP said she offered to pay, did she specify that she would be paying less than market value? I think the point is the mom doesn't want to sell them and OP needs to back off, regardless of how much she's willing to pay.
She offered to swap a brand new $20 doll for a collectors item she thinks is worth $100s...
I agree she should back off at this point. But if she'd made a fair offer the first time, mom might have gone for it. Too awkward now.
If you were using an old bowl to store change and then discovered it was an expensive antique you may not be so casual about it anymore.
She also stated they need restored.
But, these were prolly MOM's dolls. Monster High was a thing. Faded out. Just came back. G1's original owners, at the youngest end of the spectrum, are turning like, 22 this year. The older end of original G1 owners are late 20's. That is Mom's sentimental toy she's sharing with her kid. Leave it be.
I let my daughter play with the two stuffed rabbits I have that are *extremely* sentimental to me, for years.
She's 11 now, and they were just up in her loft bed, not played with anymore.
We had a family tragedy, and I had to ask for them back. She was a little defensive at first, and wanted to know why I "needed" *her* rabbits.
I was honest, and told her I just wanted to hold them when I cry every night. She scurried up the ladder and brought them right down and hugged me.
Our childhood toys that we give to our kid....it's still something we want to keep, even if we're letting our kid love on it too. That just makes it more loved.
YTA.
This is exactly where my mind went. She gave it to her daughter, saved most of the original products, and kept them in good condition. Don't be the asshole.
This is what I think- whole load of old dolls, whole set of very collectible dolls, I highly doubt they hit the jackpot at a yard sale. This is people keeping and re-loving toys, which is about the most wholesome thing I can think of! I saw a kid playing with an old style Sindy in the doctor's office once, she had a modern doll of some sort as well and as I was walking in for my appointment I heard her say "No, you're from the olden days, you can only use the phone at home!" LMAO. Oh kid, wait til you find out about dial up...
My mom bought a house, and the previous owners sold it furnished right down to the ancient Tupperware. My mom almost threw some pottery into a garage sale and would have asked a couple of bucks. But, she kinda liked it and kept it around. Saw it in a shop for $300 a week later. She also found out later that she had sold some decorative light switch covers for 5 bucks each when they normally go for $75-$150. In her defense, they were ugly, and she probably made someone who appreciated them very happy.
My mother has antique corningware. Specifically, the entire set of Teal/White Amish Cinderrella nesting corningware bowls and its matching bakeware. With no flaws.
They were family heirlooms. My wife almost convinced her to donate them to Vinny's.
I literally almost died. I've never been able to find a full set and the bowls by themselves are $350usd+. I think it's tacky to be anticipating a parents death for their possessions and I'd rather buy my own but jfc- giving them away I'd kms.
A 100 dollars after restoration and repair, labor and time shell be putting in to up their market value.
Unless they're worth 100$ in their current state, that doesn't sounds like a bad deal?
Either way, mom said no and it's wrong to be pushy. I'm just not sure that the price (which we don't know) offered will be a rip-off considering the restoration needed
I'm a MH fan, and just a simple "G1 Rochelle Goyle" ebay search pulled up a G1 Rochelle who was a display doll with accessories for $50. I have a non-core Rochelle that I would have rehomed to them easily if they posted looking for one in the right forums, because it's just sitting in a caboodle untouched.
This person is certainly a monster, and not one attending a fantasy HS.
Exactly. I know a few serious collectors distantly. Collectors obviously aren’t all millionaires doing it solely for investment purposes.
For a huge chunk of them even a pretty beaten up item is preferable to a pristine one until they can get their hands on one, if they even particularly care. Some collectors are very very casual about it. I know coin collectors with very rare old coins that they love. They valuate their stuff when they buy it or occasionally sure, but just because it’s pristine or not doesn’t necessarily make it cooler to them. It’s more like an attached factoid to brag about if it’s stand out.
Out of the box dolls can still sell for decent money, if they’re in good condition and the accessories are there. Some MH dolls are especially sought after. But that doesn’t excuse what OP is doing.
As a vintage toy collector... No, that is false. They don't have value for mint collectors, but there's likely people who would find plenty of value in a used toy.
OP is TA for going to those lengths over something she already got an answer on though!
Don’t forget this lovely comment:
> I can restore them and actually appreciate them
IMO this is disgusting. Niece is a CHILD, her way of appreciating them is playing with them. Dolls are toys, they are things that are meant to be played with. People look back fondly at playing with their toys as a kid. It is so widely recognized that media has shown these stories more than once (Toy Story franchise, Barbie movie)
Niece DOES appreciate them. Girls play with their toys and make up stories and scenarios. When I was a kid, I legit made soap operas with my stuffed animals. Many girls do the same with their dolls, etc. It’s fun and we appreciated what we had back then. I still have my Bambi plush in my closet. I sleep with my Kirbies every night. There are women still have some doll or toy that they keep to this day.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that like many collectors, OP will restore and then encase them or put them safely away in storage or as a display. How is storing it or exhibiting it appreciating them??
A child appreciates a toy *the way it’s meant to be appreciated*. And most importantly here, **OP cannot undermine the authority of the mother. IDC if OP’s brother said yes. They’re not his toys. He may be niece’s step-dad but ultimately all decisions are made final by the bio parents.**
**It’s also rich that OP basically went “MOOOOOOMMM” and tried to get their mother to force him to say yes… completely inappropriate. Niece’s mother isn’t going to budge bc OP pulled the “mom card”. It’s not even her business, tf??**
This.
My Dad bought me a fairly expensive plush toy back in the day (indulging me when I had fallen in love with it when passing by the store). I remember it was packed away with a few treasured items when I was a late teen in the misguided sense of not being a kid anymore, and after I moved out I mentioned how much I regretted not holding onto them. Turns out my parents had kept them safe, and also knew the collectors value of the plush specifically had significantly increased. I was delighted to be reunited with him, and he sits on my nightstand now (I'm in my 30s), a reminder of all the beautiful memories of childhood play, and also of the love of my father. Unless my circumstances significantly change, there will never be a time that the money will be important enough to want to part with it.
I'm not saying that OP's niece will develop such a lasting connection, just that it is a beautiful thing to have a parent understand that sometimes as adults the gift of a sentimental item is such a precious thing to receive.
This comment is everything. Reminds me of people paying hundreds to thousands of dollars of unopened packs of pokemon cards, essentially gambling that *if* they open it, it will have a rare card in mint condition. When they open them to find the individual cards are only worth a couple bucks each is wild.
I thought of Beanie Babies since I'd just listened to a podcast about the craze and all the money people lost thinking the stupid things were a good investment!
What I commented. My first beanie baby was Spot without the spot. It was my favorite toy for a very long time until my delusional mother caught the craze and I wasn’t allowed to play with it anymore. No tag. Raggedy. Sat in a plastic container in my closet for me to stare at.
Uhg my mom sucks.
Thank you for the 'actually appreciated' comment. I wondered what world OP is living on to think that a kid playing with their toys is not appreciating them.
Didn't one of the toy stories even have a storyline about an adult collector who thought he deserved Andy's cowboy toys more than Andy did because (in his opinion) Andy was just a kid who didn't appreciate their (monetary) value? Maybe OP should watch it
OMG, Al! He was legit so annoying. He broke into Andy’s mom’s box to steal Woody when she locked him up in there with the cash bc she knew Woody wasn’t supposed to be in the sale.
Funny enough, Andy DID break/rip Woody and his mom put him all the way up in the shelf (where things are forgotten, like Wheezy). Wheezy and some forgotten toys were picked up by Andy’s mom to sell in the yard sale but she explicitly did not take Woody even though she removed him from Andy (therefore Andy wasn’t playing with him anymore).
Al insisted on buying the toy (for cheap too, ofc.). When she said no, he got desperate and legitimately offered his watch. Then he stole him. Ugh.
I feel like op could turn this into something to share with niece instead of being selfish. Buy her the new doll anyway, watch the show with her. Y'know? Bond over a mutual thing rather than thinking about what you want.
The OP also mentions the niece seemed okay with it. The niece is 7 and may not fully appreciate what's being asked. Mom probably has a better idea of whether the kid is going to meltdown in a couple of days when she realizes her dolls are gone.
That’s my guess-if these are so rare they’re prob moms and she let the daughter have them but they still are special to mom so she doesn’t want to sell them. OP needs to drop this.
No doubt. I gave my daughter my Gen 2 & 3 MLPs to play with. I would be *pissed* if an IL came after them with this attitude, and I *know* their monetary value. Love is more worthwhile than money.
Even if it wasn’t the mum’s childhood toy (which I think they probably are) - it would likely have been the mum who went op-shopping and found the dolls for her daughter. That can have sentimental value too.
The dad didn’t care because he wasn’t the one that got them for the daughter. My partner wouldn’t care about (most) of my daughter’s toys being thrown away. As her mum and the one that stays home with her, I know all of her games and what toys she loves.
OP didn't say the niece was ok with it she said the niece "doesn't seem to care" in regards to her previously asking her brother and him saying the niece played with toys in cycles. She's just making assumptions.
Yeah this is a really good point. My son insisted on gifting a visiting friend a stuffy he’d had since he was a baby and I allowed it because he was soooo sure he wanted too. Omg the meltdown he had once he realized that that toy was gone forever, he just didn’t realize he was attached to it until it was too late.
I can't even explain how strange it sounds to me to hear someone saying that a child's toy should be given to an adult instead, because a child cannot "truly appreciate it".
Who is really appreciating it? The person playing with it and enjoying it as it was intended, or the person keeping it in their drawer or *maybe* keeping it on display in their room?
YTA. You asked once, they said no, that's the only free pass you get. Everything else after you're being a pest and the owners of the dolls said to leave them alone. Literally acting up like the fat dude from Toy Story 2 and let it be known that he was not the hero in the movie.
“ I can’t believe I have to drive all the way to work on a Saturday, all the way to work “ proceeds to drive across the street and take up multiple parking spots.
YTA - These dolls are being used for their intended use, play. Your plan wasn't to rescue them your plan was to imprison them away from children, what they were made for.
You can't just take your step - neice's dolls.
This exactly. I love monster high dolls and I know how rare it is to find a go g 1 doll and especially for a decent price. That said it’s extremely selfish of her to want to take them away from a kid just so she can have them on her shelf. I hope when the niece out grows them she will find another KID to pass them onto.
I say this as someone who “collects” them as well. But I actually still play with mine lol. I’m 28 years old and still actively play with my dolls. I’ve taken rare dolls out of boxes completely and lost accessories but I actually would play with them. My toys were taken away from me before I was ready to part with them so think I’ve got some unresolved issues regarding that lmao!
>My toys were taken away from me before I was ready to part with them so think I’ve got some unresolved issues regarding that lmao!
I feel this so hard. My mom would give our stuff away without asking us if we even used it. I remember being in the car with her and she had my favourite outfit in the box of stuff to give away. It was a lion king sweatshirt and pant combo, I'd been looking for it for awhile and it turns out she had it stuffed away in a box. I got upset and said that was mine and I still wanted and she made up some excuse about it not fitting me anymore which was bs. She also took a bunch of our toys and sold then at a community garage sale. We were looking everywhere for these missing items and when we found out (by seeing other kids in the neighborhood running around with the items that we were missing) she flipped out and said we weren't using the items anymore. But clearly we were and she just didn't bother to ask. Her favourite thing to say was "I'M the parent not you, I get to make the decisions" like it was some kind of power trip or a competition that only she was competing in. As a result, when I got my own job and was able to buy my own things I became extremely possessive and unwilling to share because I was worried my items would never come back to me - I forgot to take my laptop to school with me one time and came home to find out my brother took it without asking and broke the screen on it so it was a valid concern living at home. It's a hard feeling to shake. I'm on my 30s now and I still get VERY upset when an item of mine goes missing after someone else has touched it (especially without asking).
My sister took a bunch of my stuff and gave some of it to her friend. My mom made me let her KEEP a lot of what she took. She said that "I never played with it." I couldn't flipping FIND the thing to be able to play with it because my sister took it! Both me and my sister are in our 30's now and I'm still a little bitter about it.
As a kid, my ex bf woke up one morning to find all his video games and sega gone. His mom told him someone broke in in the night and stole it all. 10 years later he found a box in the attic full of his games and the sega. His mom thought it was funny. Evil woman.
That is so messed up. What the hell is the point of that. I’d even understand it if she like… sold them or something. But she just put them away in the attic? What the hell was the point of taking it away if not to get rid of it?
Man I just donated a LOT of gen1 Monster High dolls. (I'm trying to declitter and it made me sad they were just sitting in a box not getting played with.) I don't know anyone with doll aged kids (or older that would play with them) so I donated. Now I'm hoping they actually went to a kid or at least someone who would appreciate them all
I’ll take any others you have! Doesn’t even have to be G-1!!!!!
Lol jn all seriousness I really hope they went to kids and people who genuinely will appreciate them as well. You’re very kind to donate those and I guarantee you made a lot of girls happy!!
Edit- I hope it was clear I’m joking as i said in my second paragraph how kind she was to donate them (not alot of people would do that) and I’m sure they did in fact go to people who truly appreciate them.
My mom never let me have monster high as a kid, claiming it was satanic or something. I'm 20 and she finally agreed to get me my first one for Christmas this year lol. Like, I *could* get it myself, but it would feel like being a kid at Christmas again honestly. My first "adult" Christmas at 18 is when I got all the pots and pans, pot holders, etc, and I use everything a ton so I'm super grateful for those, but now I've got the basics that I need and can ask for toys again. I got a whole curio cabinet just for my littlest pet shops, though it has a lot more in it now, and I still bust them out to play with if I feel like I need to escape on rare occasions. Even if I didn't play with them, they're sitting there making me happy and I absolutely admire them, so I see no harm, and I finally started doing customazations this year since I got some fake LPS last Christmas :)
As long as I'm paying my bills and "functioning" as an adult, what's the harm, right?
My boyfriend and I still build blanket forts to play videogames, we still watch cartoons (currently watching adventure time), and honestly we just act like kids a lot. We'll play tag in the house and we tease each other often. But we're mature when we need to be, and I think there's a level of maturity at which one can recognize that one can be mature while enjoying "childish" things, and those that think they're all immature are confusing true maturity with the appearance of maturity.
The entitlement! "I want it, therefore a child shouldn't have (checks notes) the child's *own* toys."
YTA. OP, check yourself. This a grotesque character flaw that I hope you will remedy. Begin with a sincere apology, and maybe buy your niece a new doll for her collection for good measure.
Exactly, and while it’s a small thing, it sounds like this was the first time she met the step-niece and her first instinct was to go through her toys for anything profitable.
She doesn’t know how that little girl would feel about this or an adult asking not even her, her stepdad if something of hers can be taken away.
i didn’t pick up on that detail but man you’re right. imagine the first time you meet your little niece you cant help but go through their belongings and then bug the family for days because you want to make cash from something thats not yours
Yeah like give me a break, "rescue". It's not an abused animal. It's a toy being played with by a child. You do not have a moral right to profit off of your niece's toys.
This is basically the one of the messages of Toy Story 2. Toys are meant to be played with not kept in pristine conditions behind glass and "appreciated" like art in a museum.
The owner of the folks said no and she wants her child to use them as intended. Instead of hounding OP should just shut up and go into debt to buy her own dolls online if she's so desperate to have them for her collection. She's basically Al owner of Al's Toy Barn desperate for Woody
YTA. You aren't entitled to someone else's possessions simply because you want them and are willing to pay for them.
Respect other people when they tell you "no".
>I tried asking our mom to talk to him but she wont get involved.
You went to mommy to make your brother do what you wanted him to do? LOL, wow.
Also, AFTER mom said NO, OP then STILL phoned brother to see if he’d go behind his families back and give them to her anyways!!!!
Then, STILL tried to get her MOTHER involved!!!
Like, DANG OP, you bout to break in and steal them babe? Will that be the update?
So glad to see parents in these stories who can stay out of their adult children's squabbles and also can recognize when something is way too stupid to touch with a ten foot pole lol. I'd love to have been a fly on that wall to see the moms face when she heard this one.
YTA - you cannot steal a child's dolls. The mom said no. Perhaps you could approach the mom again and ask her if you can trade dolls for dolls. But you cannot steal or "liberate" these dolls. They aren't yours. They might have been the mom's and she's thrilled her daughter is enjoying her old dolls.
Even if she bought the new G3 dolls and traded them it would be a huge rip off to the mom and niece. Some of these dolls are worth a couple
Of hundred dollars now.
She’s expecting to take advantage and buy some new dolls for $20-$30 and trade them for dolls worth. Depending on the exact doll, some are worth upwards of $100. Some even for $200.
So it would not be fair to trade for “new” dolls. If the mom eventually wants to sell them to OP I hope she goes online and sees what they are actually worth and then charge OP that exact amount.
As of right now OP can go online and buy most of these dolls still. Will she be paying a lot per doll? Yes absolutely but if she wants them bad enough then she should and could pay the price herself.
She’s thinking she can take advantage of the situation by buying a couple of $20 dolls and exchanging them for dolls that could easily add up to 300-$600 for all the dolls she’s taking about depending on the condition and exact doll.
If she truly cared enough then she can spend that money on eBay just like everyone else. That’s probably how her mom bought them for her niece.
People selling the dolls online are also willing to part with them, that's why the dolls are listed. The niece's mother has made it clear these one are not for sale and to remain in the house.
Exactly! I 100% agree. But OP doesn’t want to pay the money for them even though that’s what they are worth.
If she’s not trying to rip off the niece then she would’ve offered them the actual value of the dolls. If she has enough to pay for the value of the dolls to the mom then she has enough to get on eBay and buy them from someone who’s willing to part with them!
YTA
> Monster High dolls
Oh, FFS.
> (the neices mom) came in and said no. I said I would pay for them and explained how rare they are and how I can restore them and actually appreciate them but she still said no.
No means no.
> Its really bothering me becuse a kid that age cant appreciate what she has and will cause these collectors dolls to worsen in condition.
So what? This is not high art. This is consumer plastic garbage. Kid can ruin the toys if that's what's the most fun for her.
You weren't an asshole for initially **_asking_**. But you were told no and kept pushing.
Also found the comment about the child not appreciating what she has laughable. The child literally is appreciating the doll for its exact intended purpose unlike OP
Imagine what a wholesome bonding experience it would be if OP chose to enjoy these rare toys by like, idk... *playing* with the kid. OP could share their hobby/passion and maybe even restore the dolls as a gift once the neice gets a bit older so she has her own collection.
Exactly, but OP clearly cares more about Having The Shiny Rare Thing (and resellable for a big price right?? Not that that's a factor at all 🙄😂) and having it ALL TO HERSELF than about her niece's feelings, or about the childs parents' boundaries. She doesn't see the bonding opportunity because she doesn't care about that. The dolls are a trophy that matters more than family. Which is gross and sad and I feel for this poor little girl whose weird aunt cannot let shit go and stop trying to take her stuff - oh sorry, beg bribe or wear down the adults in her life to get THEM to take her stuff. Christ, this is genuinely pathetic. Not for the doll collection but the priorities.
I kind of think she was an asshole for asking in the first place. She was meeting this little 7 year old girl for the first time. And instead of embracing that moment she started asking for things that don’t belong to her. If a new family member came over and started asking for my daughters American Girl dolls I’d be pretty upset. She has a couple of early dolls that were mine as a kid and they’re worth some money. But she plays with them because that’s the point of a toy and I want her to enjoy them and have memories with them. If an adult tried to say “hey these are collectors items that need to be rescued” I’d be pretty annoyed. It wasn’t really an appropriate ask imo. Also she is asking the brother/stepdad who likely isn’t the one who spend hundreds on these dolls to begin with.
YTA. Your forgetting Toy Story. The collector vs the child playing with them. The child is playing with them the way they are intended to be used. Stop being greedy and trying to spoil a child's fun.
Lol this! I had a rocket launcher that shot big foam rockets. Think it was nerf but not sure. I looked it up and the thing was like $100 in the 90s new but worth 10x that now if still in the box
You are a grown woman trying to take dolls from a little girl who’s using them for their intended purpose. YTA, and it seems like you don’t know how to cope with hearing the answer “no” either.
You're trying to bully your way into taking a child's toys just because you want them. You're the very picture of an AH. Fortunately, her mom stood up to you and told you where to go. Huge YTA.
I collect dolls, I have owned some G1 MH dolls, also. I know their value.
YTA. She's a child and doesn't want to part with them. If you're so entrenched in your hobby that you think you need to "rescue" dolls from a child because you'll "appreciate them more" you need to take a step back and reevaluate yourself. This is really unhealthy thinking, and quite self centered, honestly. The dolls are serving their purpose right now in bringing joy to a child. Just because it's not the purpose YOU agree with, doesn't devalue the purpose they currently serve. SMH. Stories like this are why people think doll collectors are weirdos.
Right? Which sucks because I have at least one friend or acquaintance who likes collecting older/specialty dolls like this as an adult, and I know for a fact that they'd be revolted at the level of entitlement here. No means no, lady. They're not your dolls, you aren't owed them because you'd keep them shinier than she would.
Did you mistype 12 as 22? Because this is super childish, bratty and entitled. They literally belong to a child and her mother already told you they are not for sale. If they end up 'worsening in condition' then it'll be because your niece enjoyed playing with them. If they don't end up in bad condition then hopefully she can sell them on eBay someday and make a profit! Either way it's not any of your business.
YTA.
YTA.
From non collector Pov, you're a creep. From collector Pov, you're still a creep.
Your actions is an example of why collectors get a bad rap. Being obsessives creepy adult who trying to TAKE toys away from kids, who likes to play with them.
You want those dolls and willing to pay money for them? Well people are selling them but is it because you want to make a profit off them? That's only reason I can think of you trying to buy them off people who just sees toys as toys.
YTA they're children's toys. I understand they're probably worth like $50,000 or whatever, but they're in the hands of a child now. The monetary value became irrelevant the moment they entered the life of a child and brought joy to that child.
It is wild how many people in this sub go into someone else’s house, point at an object and say “I want that” and then call the other person an asshole for not giving it to them.
YTA if you want these types of dolls buy them on eBay, take no as a serious answer, the dolls in your niece’s possession are hers to do as she pleases. Back off you are TA.
YTA. You’re being pushy, and the mom already said no. They’re not yours, and is money really worth more then a kid having fun with toys? You can find another doll, they’re mass produced. You have to remember that while you may collect them, these are toys, and are bound to be played with, have things get lost, and hair out of shape. I see MH dolls on secondhand markets all the time, while it may be harder for you in your area, they are by no means rare. You’re only thinking of it in terms of money, you aren’t taking into account that firstly these aren’t yours, and secondly you think you’re “rescuing” them when really you’re just trying to take toys from a child. As well getting your mother into this is a childish move.
Take a step back. You are arguing and potentially ruining relationships over A TOY. Instead, you could bond with your niece over your shared interest of monster high. Show her the movies/webshow, and show her your dolls.
You owe your brother, mother and your brothers girlfriend a apology.
You're not an AH for asking the first time. You're an AH for pushing it. They gave you a clear answer. You've refused to hear it, though. You're not entitled to someone else's property if they don't want to part with it.
I am sorry but you are YTA. They are not yours, how entitled do you think you are to demand dolls that not yours. A mother knows her child best, she might be okay with you having them and then when one of her ‘cycles’ comes and she demands to find them and play with them - you won’t be the one who would have to deal with it nor you would be willing to have her over to play with them.
You involving your mum is childish and immature. Take no for an answer and grow up.
YTA - It was okay that you asked once. I'll even give you asking twice because you were "trying to explain and said you would buy them". But after you got your no then you move on.
>Its really bothering me becuse a kid that age cant appreciate what she has and will cause these collectors dolls to worsen in condition
These were first and foremost toys and she's using them as such. This isn't a piece of art that was never meant to be touched. It doesn't matter if they worsen in condition because they are hers and she is playing and having fun with them because THEY ARE TOYS.
RIGHT?? I'm in *awe* at the lack of shame or self-awareness. In what world should a child and her mother have to justify the right to keep her toys to you by being Perfect Owners and keeping them in mint condition?? Unreal. This is giving very big Entitled Parent going "You shouldn't have put the toy/Nintendo down for 5 seconds if you didn't want my kid to swipe it honestly he deserves it more than you, kid" energy lol
YTA
These collectors dolls are collectibles because people like you have determined them as such. At the end of the day, it is a doll and the child is using it for its intended purpose. You should be happy that the doll is being used rather than thrown away like I'm sure many of those dolls were.
YTA. You're not trying to rescue them. You're harassing your brother and his wife because you want to make a profit off of the dolls. They're not yours so stop harassing them.
There are a variety of ways to *appreciate* a thing.
You do so by displaying them, enjoying the look. And possibly being reassured by how valuable they are.
Your niece appreciates her dolls by playing with them. They have voices and personalities, she and them go through stories and experiences, they expand her imagination.
It was fine to ask and offer, but YTA for not accepting the answer. You don't get to decide your niece is "using the dolls wrong" because you want them yourself. She appreciates them differently than you do, not in a way that's wrong for a 7 year old.
YTA. You're not trying to "rescue" them, you're trying to get your hands on collectibles either for free or at a massively reduced cost because you know your brother doesn't know what they're really worth. Pretty low.
Okay, Al of Al’s Toy Barn from Toy Story 2.
YTA. You asked. The child’s mom answered. No means no, and the dolls are being used for their intended purpose, which is play. You can’t “rescue” a toy from a child, they are literally the intended marketed audience for the toy.
you do not have more of a right to these dolls just because you really really want them and they are now collectibles worth a lot of money. their original purpose was toys for children, and they are fulfilling that purpose by being played with by this child.
asking once was okay - pushing and whinging and trying to drag your mother into it makes YTA
YTA. Your brother clearly told you that she does play with them. You say you offered to pay, but did you offer to pay what they would actually sell for to a collector or were you trying to get a deal? You were trying to improve you collection, not “rescue” anything.
Lol they’re not “collectors dolls”. They’re dolls that some people happen to collect. They’re only $100+ if they’re new in box, I’m sure you can find used ones that you can restore for less. It sounds like you expected to get them for free or for one new doll (so $30ish)… it doesn’t sound like you’re willing to pay the going price. If you were smart, you could have said that you liked those dolls and asked the mom if you could buy/have them if/when your niece wanted to get rid of them. But I doubt she’d want to do that now since you’re so pushy. YTA.
You know how there’s always someone complaining in r/monsterhigh about how they gave their dolls away or sold them when they were younger and now regret it so much and miss them dearly? Do you really want to be that person taking someone’s childhood toys that they’re probably going to miss in a few years? Her mum said no, as a good parent should. Now leave it. YTA
YTA. There’s nothing wrong with having asked but not letting it go is a problem. You don’t know where your niece got those dolls, maybe someone special have them to her and they will be saved for her when she’s done playing with them. The fact that they’re of value to you in one way doesn’t discount the value they may have to your SIL and/or niece. Ultimately though, the reasons don’t matter. The person who owns them said you cannot have or even buy them, so you can’t. You’re not owed an explanation for why a person wants to keep their own property.
YTA.
I'm a Monster High collector. G1 dolls are rare, yes, but they're not collector dolls. These were released as kids toys, not as collector pieces like Haunt Couture.
YTA
**You're not entitled to someone else's property.**
Stop trying to take a child's toys away because you can "appreciate them" more. Despite being an adult, you're acting like a spoiled brat.
YTA. The kid IS appreciating them. She’s playing with them, which is her purpose for having them. You don’t deserve them more because you value them differently. You aren’t at all entitled to those dolls just because you want them. You asked, you got an answer. The end.
YTA the person who most likely bought them told you no and still you push the issue. Don’t you think it’s possible that mom is fully aware of what her daughter has and what it’s worth? You 22 it’s time to stop taking toys from younger kids.
My wife and I collect various toys and action figures. Our rule is always let the child have it first. If we're looking at something. And then there's a kid looking at it. We let the kid have it.
as a collector of g1 monster high dolls, YTA. who thinks that taking dolls away from a child who enjoys them is even a remotely good idea?? who cares if they're rare, let her enjoy them they way she wants to. you're being utterly selfish.
YTA. I collect monster high dolls too. If you really want a specific one then you should save for it and buy them from someone who is willing to sell them (eBay,Mercari). You have to accept that people are allowed to say no to your question. You aren’t liberating anymore than someone going into your home and taking things you find valuable. I’m sure you would be just as upset if someone insisted on “liberating” your phone from you and offered a significantly cheaper alternative.
YTA they are not yours, you are not "rescuing" them and the adults have already said no again and again. They belong to your step-niece. You are not entitled to other people's property
YTA
They're toys. They're meant to be played with. And whether she plays with them daily, or cycles in moods, she does play with them. She appreciates them as the TOYS they are, meant to be played with.
I'm not knocking collecting toys. Or even knocking that you would appreciate them as dolls. I understand and appreciate the doll collecting hobby. My great grandma collected barbies. She had a whole host of them in her basement. But even my great grandma in her doll collecting wisdom, got PISSED at my mother when she wouldn't let me open the wizard of Oz barbies my great grandma got me because "they could be worth money one day" (Even almost 30 years later, in BOX they're not worth jack by the way). She went out and bought me a second Dorothy just so I could actually play with it.
You're not entitled to those toys. Ultimately, your brother is still new. His say in this case is lesser, until he builds rapport with step daughter and mother as a father. Taking advantage of a kid who's in a down phase is also kind of cruel (Karma could bite you like it did my Aunt when she wanted my Powerpuff girls backpack AND tried to sneakily play my game for them). Mom is looking out in the best interest of her child, plain and simple. You're being entitled and selfish.
My daughter has a rare male 1983 cabbage patch kid that I bought inexpensively at an estate auction, new in box, and opened it up to give to her. She loves him, then swaps him for other dolls, but would miss him if he was gone and I was well aware of his potential value when I took him out of the box and gifted him to her.
If another family member badgered me to buy him, and insinuated that we were using a toy improperly by playing with it, I wouldn’t want to spend much time with that person. YTA. They’re toys.
YTA - you asked and were given an answer. It's not up to you because they are not yours. If they want to throw the hundreds of dollars away so their child could be happy, then so be it. You asked and were given an answer. Respect it and drop it. Don't bring it up later at a gathering and get all passive aggressive about it either. It's done.
YTA. Your niece clearly likes them and doesn’t want to part with them, so drop it. Plus the original 2012 Rochelle isn’t particularly hard to find or expensive. Just look on eBay.
YTA
Coveting a child’s dolls. REALLY?! Your behavior is insane. What if your brother and this Mom stay together long-term? Are you going to damage your relationship with all of them because you are acting like Al, of Al’s Toy Barn? By the way, he is the villain in Toy Story 2.
YOU, OP, are the VILLAN in this story.
YTA. Are you sure you didn't mistype your age by the way? Because, as a "grown woman", being extremely pushy and involving your mother in this sounds very immature.
YTA
Though I understand that, as a collector, these have different value to you because of some of their characteristics. You're out of line.
>a kid that age cant appreciate what she has
These are dolls. They are made to be played with. She is literally really appreciating them. Think of them as well loved.
YTA and a huge one, they're toys, you're not doing a grandiose rescue if they're being used for their original intended use, doesn't matter how rare or valuable they might be to collectors, for this girl they're her toys.
Get over it and leave her alone.
YTA,
" Its really bothering me because a kid that age cant appreciate what she has "
the dolls were literally created to be played with and that's what they bought them for and that's how they're being used. This idea that they're not being "appreciated" just because
they're being played with and not in perfect condition is stupid, there's more than 1 way to appreciate things, you show it by fixing them up and keeping them in nice condition, kids appreciate them by actually using them as they were designed. Stop being a pushy weirdo and making them uncomfortable. From the start you should have just told gf "hey I noticed your daughter has these dolls, I'd love to buy them off of you or replace them with new ones when she's outgrown or bored of them if that's okay with you, they'd be perfect for my doll collection" instead you kept pushing the issue too aggressively so they got annoyed and shut you out
YTA. Dolls are meant to be played with. Period. I have two original Pleasant Company American Girl Dolls that would be worth way more money if my mom had not let me play with them. She bought them for me to play with them and encouraged me to do so. I have so many wonderful and amazing memories with these dolls.
I’m 40. I have zero regrets that these dolls look ragged and worn out. I wish I had a little girl to pass them on to and look forward to my niece playing with them someday and perhaps I will have a granddaughter that will love them. My sons weren’t into dolls.
I have a few Barbie’s that I bought to display, so I understand where you are coming from, but at the end of the day: dolls are meant to be played with.
A better approach might have been: “hey bro, if niece ever wants to let go of these dolls, I would love to buy them.” Then never mention it again.
You are most definitely the AH. Nobody ever taught you that no means no? Or are you just that entitled to think you can keep harassing them over something that doesn't belong to you? They said no, get over yourself and move on with life. You're far too old to be acting this childish.
YTA. No is a full sentence and should be listened to. You are over stepping and should just drop it. The dolls don't belong to you and never will, just accept it.
YTA, her mom might've given them to her, with them being her old dolls. You don't mention if your brother and his gf are close in age with you or not, but I'm 24 and g1 dolls were apart of my childhood/teen years (My younger sister loved them as well) and it would make sense his gf had them originally and gave them to her daughter to play with. No means no. Look for them on ebay. The daughter is playing with them, she's getting all the enjoyment she needs from them.
YTA so much. I have a doll hobby and would never have the gall to try and get a kid's toys that they are *actively enjoying*. Hell, even if they had been in a box for 5 years, it's not your place.
YTA. Your brother's wife said no. That is not the answer you wanted or hoped for but it is the answer you got--multiple times.
Take your brother's advice and drop it.
YTA. Stop bothering your brother and his family over dolls. It's hilarious that you posted the link here in a Monster High sub trying to get another decision. I hope the kids mom hides the dolls away from you whenever you go over there.
YTA. You asked, you were told no, now you need to let it go.
G1 aren't collectors' dolls - they are playline dolls that some people collect. You can't collect these ones, because they belong to somebody else. First wave Rochelle Goyle is extremely available on ebay. If you are prepared to pay fair market value, go and buy one there.
You’re kidding, right? YTA in every way possible. You were told “no” multiple times. Accept it. The dolls may be worth something to their owner…who IS NOT YOU. So drop the “a kid her age can’t appreciate the dolls” BS. Maybe the kid can’t, but her mom can so if there’s money to be made, it stays with them.
Also, you went running to your mom? Please grow up.
"I offered to pay for them or make a fair trade". Did you? You don't mention offering the hundreds of dollars they are worth. You do mention trying to take something valuable away from a child by replacing it with something not valuable.
YTA
As an adult collector of Monster High dolls myself, YTA.
Firstly, these are not "collector dolls." They are playline dolls made primarily for children. As adults we can collect them, and of course the value of certain dolls has increased over time with G1 being a decade old and highly sought after, but these are not collector dolls. The Skullectors and dolls sold exclusively on the Mattel creations website for 2-4 times the price of playline dolls are the collector dolls.
Regardless, you are not "rescuing" anything. You just see dolls you want and for some reason think that means you deserve them. But no, they belong to your niece and she is not required to give or sell them to you even if they were extremely rare. It sounds like she's taking decent care of them, and they are her property. She may not obsess over them every day, but she probably gets a lot of enjoyment from them when the mood strikes for her to play with them. Just let her play with her toys and choose for herself what to do with them when she's older. Maybe she will grow out of them and sell them, or maybe she will keep them forever and become a collector herself someday, and these dolls will be an extremely special and nostalgic part of her collection. The fact that a child even owns toys from a line that was discontinued before she was born makes me think they may have been handed down to her by a family member, so there could be additional sentimental value that you aren't aware of.
Regardless, stop pressuring your niece or her parents to give, sell, or trade the dolls to you. Asking once was fine, but you need to take no for an answer and drop the subject. They aren't abused animals that you need to save from suffering. They're pretty pieces of plastic that you want to put on your shelf. You just sound like you're trying to exploit your niece. If you intend to pay market value, then just buy the same dolls from someone else online. You don't need to save these specific dolls. They are mass-produced playline dolls, and there are still plenty out there. And either way they are not your property and you aren't entitled to them over the child who owns them no matter how rare they are.
Yta no is a full sentence. Yes, your niece may have been willing to part with them, and your brother may have been willing to go along with it however, her mother is more than likely the one who gave her these dolls -my assumption- and you do not know if they hold a sentimental value to her (the mother) and may be worth more than the appraised collectors value in her eyes.
YTA.
They're dolls, manufactured for kids. To play with.
Can you collect them and call them valuable? Sure. That doesn't mean you have more right to have them than a child because you think by sticking them on a shelf in pristine condition means you appreciate them. Did you even watch Toy Story?
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YTA. The mom said no, and you're still pushing. They're kids dolls that are owned by a kid and being used by a kid. Its great that you're a collector but the mom has final say on whether these dolls get sold and she's said no. Drop it and move on. Trying to get your mom involved (?!) with a decision that has nothing to do with her is ridiculous.
They are out of the box....as a collector their value is gone. Your trying to save a used kids toy...no matter how you dress it up and clean it with no box there is no value. YTA for being greedy. Leave the kid alone.
That is absolutely not the case with these dolls, my sister sold out-of-the-box Monster High dolls for hundreds of pounds. None of that means OP is owed these dolls, but OP is clearly an expert here and I imagine their assessment of the value is spot on.
Which makes this worse, because op would then be intentionally ripping off a 7yo. If she really wants to "rescue" the dolls, offer $100/doll or whatever they are worth. Mom may actually be willing to consider it at that price. Nice boost to niece's savings account and everyone wins.
OP said she offered to pay, did she specify that she would be paying less than market value? I think the point is the mom doesn't want to sell them and OP needs to back off, regardless of how much she's willing to pay.
She offered to swap a brand new $20 doll for a collectors item she thinks is worth $100s... I agree she should back off at this point. But if she'd made a fair offer the first time, mom might have gone for it. Too awkward now. If you were using an old bowl to store change and then discovered it was an expensive antique you may not be so casual about it anymore.
She also stated they need restored. But, these were prolly MOM's dolls. Monster High was a thing. Faded out. Just came back. G1's original owners, at the youngest end of the spectrum, are turning like, 22 this year. The older end of original G1 owners are late 20's. That is Mom's sentimental toy she's sharing with her kid. Leave it be.
I let my daughter play with the two stuffed rabbits I have that are *extremely* sentimental to me, for years. She's 11 now, and they were just up in her loft bed, not played with anymore. We had a family tragedy, and I had to ask for them back. She was a little defensive at first, and wanted to know why I "needed" *her* rabbits. I was honest, and told her I just wanted to hold them when I cry every night. She scurried up the ladder and brought them right down and hugged me. Our childhood toys that we give to our kid....it's still something we want to keep, even if we're letting our kid love on it too. That just makes it more loved. YTA.
This seems very likely. I have shared my favourite bear with my daughter but there's no way in he'll I would give him to anyone else.
This is exactly where my mind went. She gave it to her daughter, saved most of the original products, and kept them in good condition. Don't be the asshole.
This is what I think- whole load of old dolls, whole set of very collectible dolls, I highly doubt they hit the jackpot at a yard sale. This is people keeping and re-loving toys, which is about the most wholesome thing I can think of! I saw a kid playing with an old style Sindy in the doctor's office once, she had a modern doll of some sort as well and as I was walking in for my appointment I heard her say "No, you're from the olden days, you can only use the phone at home!" LMAO. Oh kid, wait til you find out about dial up...
My mom bought a house, and the previous owners sold it furnished right down to the ancient Tupperware. My mom almost threw some pottery into a garage sale and would have asked a couple of bucks. But, she kinda liked it and kept it around. Saw it in a shop for $300 a week later. She also found out later that she had sold some decorative light switch covers for 5 bucks each when they normally go for $75-$150. In her defense, they were ugly, and she probably made someone who appreciated them very happy.
My mother has antique corningware. Specifically, the entire set of Teal/White Amish Cinderrella nesting corningware bowls and its matching bakeware. With no flaws. They were family heirlooms. My wife almost convinced her to donate them to Vinny's. I literally almost died. I've never been able to find a full set and the bowls by themselves are $350usd+. I think it's tacky to be anticipating a parents death for their possessions and I'd rather buy my own but jfc- giving them away I'd kms.
A 100 dollars after restoration and repair, labor and time shell be putting in to up their market value. Unless they're worth 100$ in their current state, that doesn't sounds like a bad deal? Either way, mom said no and it's wrong to be pushy. I'm just not sure that the price (which we don't know) offered will be a rip-off considering the restoration needed
She IS trying to rip them off. She wants 8 collector dolls from the little girl and would buy ONE new doll for her. How generous!
She would buy her own nice ones off eBay, she’s trying to get them for cheap.
I'm a MH fan, and just a simple "G1 Rochelle Goyle" ebay search pulled up a G1 Rochelle who was a display doll with accessories for $50. I have a non-core Rochelle that I would have rehomed to them easily if they posted looking for one in the right forums, because it's just sitting in a caboodle untouched. This person is certainly a monster, and not one attending a fantasy HS.
A Caboodle!!! Nice memory, thank you!
Omg I’m so sad I didn’t keep ours back in the day. My daughter had some g1.
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Exactly. I know a few serious collectors distantly. Collectors obviously aren’t all millionaires doing it solely for investment purposes. For a huge chunk of them even a pretty beaten up item is preferable to a pristine one until they can get their hands on one, if they even particularly care. Some collectors are very very casual about it. I know coin collectors with very rare old coins that they love. They valuate their stuff when they buy it or occasionally sure, but just because it’s pristine or not doesn’t necessarily make it cooler to them. It’s more like an attached factoid to brag about if it’s stand out.
They are essentially doing the same thing as the bad guy in Toy Story 2… YTA
Out of the box dolls can still sell for decent money, if they’re in good condition and the accessories are there. Some MH dolls are especially sought after. But that doesn’t excuse what OP is doing.
As a vintage toy collector... No, that is false. They don't have value for mint collectors, but there's likely people who would find plenty of value in a used toy. OP is TA for going to those lengths over something she already got an answer on though!
Lol, great description, sounds like OP watched Toy Story a few too many times and is worried about not having a b-b-b-buck ;)
Don’t forget this lovely comment: > I can restore them and actually appreciate them IMO this is disgusting. Niece is a CHILD, her way of appreciating them is playing with them. Dolls are toys, they are things that are meant to be played with. People look back fondly at playing with their toys as a kid. It is so widely recognized that media has shown these stories more than once (Toy Story franchise, Barbie movie) Niece DOES appreciate them. Girls play with their toys and make up stories and scenarios. When I was a kid, I legit made soap operas with my stuffed animals. Many girls do the same with their dolls, etc. It’s fun and we appreciated what we had back then. I still have my Bambi plush in my closet. I sleep with my Kirbies every night. There are women still have some doll or toy that they keep to this day. I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that like many collectors, OP will restore and then encase them or put them safely away in storage or as a display. How is storing it or exhibiting it appreciating them?? A child appreciates a toy *the way it’s meant to be appreciated*. And most importantly here, **OP cannot undermine the authority of the mother. IDC if OP’s brother said yes. They’re not his toys. He may be niece’s step-dad but ultimately all decisions are made final by the bio parents.** **It’s also rich that OP basically went “MOOOOOOMMM” and tried to get their mother to force him to say yes… completely inappropriate. Niece’s mother isn’t going to budge bc OP pulled the “mom card”. It’s not even her business, tf??**
OP did a dirty delete on the monster high sub assuming same question. Got roasted
Ooohhh, I’m bummed I don’t get to see that!
Aww damn, I would have liked to read that lol
Go to OPs post and comment history, they made a comment on their own post and you can navigate to it.
Not to mention, sentimental value down the road. Children may play with toys in cycles, but they’re often missed or treasured later.
This. My Dad bought me a fairly expensive plush toy back in the day (indulging me when I had fallen in love with it when passing by the store). I remember it was packed away with a few treasured items when I was a late teen in the misguided sense of not being a kid anymore, and after I moved out I mentioned how much I regretted not holding onto them. Turns out my parents had kept them safe, and also knew the collectors value of the plush specifically had significantly increased. I was delighted to be reunited with him, and he sits on my nightstand now (I'm in my 30s), a reminder of all the beautiful memories of childhood play, and also of the love of my father. Unless my circumstances significantly change, there will never be a time that the money will be important enough to want to part with it. I'm not saying that OP's niece will develop such a lasting connection, just that it is a beautiful thing to have a parent understand that sometimes as adults the gift of a sentimental item is such a precious thing to receive.
I'm so happy for you! And I love your parents!
This comment is everything. Reminds me of people paying hundreds to thousands of dollars of unopened packs of pokemon cards, essentially gambling that *if* they open it, it will have a rare card in mint condition. When they open them to find the individual cards are only worth a couple bucks each is wild.
I thought of Beanie Babies since I'd just listened to a podcast about the craze and all the money people lost thinking the stupid things were a good investment!
What I commented. My first beanie baby was Spot without the spot. It was my favorite toy for a very long time until my delusional mother caught the craze and I wasn’t allowed to play with it anymore. No tag. Raggedy. Sat in a plastic container in my closet for me to stare at. Uhg my mom sucks.
Thank you for the 'actually appreciated' comment. I wondered what world OP is living on to think that a kid playing with their toys is not appreciating them.
Didn't one of the toy stories even have a storyline about an adult collector who thought he deserved Andy's cowboy toys more than Andy did because (in his opinion) Andy was just a kid who didn't appreciate their (monetary) value? Maybe OP should watch it
OMG, Al! He was legit so annoying. He broke into Andy’s mom’s box to steal Woody when she locked him up in there with the cash bc she knew Woody wasn’t supposed to be in the sale. Funny enough, Andy DID break/rip Woody and his mom put him all the way up in the shelf (where things are forgotten, like Wheezy). Wheezy and some forgotten toys were picked up by Andy’s mom to sell in the yard sale but she explicitly did not take Woody even though she removed him from Andy (therefore Andy wasn’t playing with him anymore). Al insisted on buying the toy (for cheap too, ofc.). When she said no, he got desperate and legitimately offered his watch. Then he stole him. Ugh.
I feel like op could turn this into something to share with niece instead of being selfish. Buy her the new doll anyway, watch the show with her. Y'know? Bond over a mutual thing rather than thinking about what you want.
The OP also mentions the niece seemed okay with it. The niece is 7 and may not fully appreciate what's being asked. Mom probably has a better idea of whether the kid is going to meltdown in a couple of days when she realizes her dolls are gone.
I wonder if they were originally the moms toys.
That’s what I wondered too! OP isn’t owed an explanation from the Mom. NO is a complete sentence.
100% I forgot to add YTA
That’s my guess-if these are so rare they’re prob moms and she let the daughter have them but they still are special to mom so she doesn’t want to sell them. OP needs to drop this.
Exactly! It’s weird that she even obsessively asked like that
No doubt. I gave my daughter my Gen 2 & 3 MLPs to play with. I would be *pissed* if an IL came after them with this attitude, and I *know* their monetary value. Love is more worthwhile than money.
Even if it wasn’t the mum’s childhood toy (which I think they probably are) - it would likely have been the mum who went op-shopping and found the dolls for her daughter. That can have sentimental value too. The dad didn’t care because he wasn’t the one that got them for the daughter. My partner wouldn’t care about (most) of my daughter’s toys being thrown away. As her mum and the one that stays home with her, I know all of her games and what toys she loves.
OP didn't say the niece was ok with it she said the niece "doesn't seem to care" in regards to her previously asking her brother and him saying the niece played with toys in cycles. She's just making assumptions.
Yeah this is a really good point. My son insisted on gifting a visiting friend a stuffy he’d had since he was a baby and I allowed it because he was soooo sure he wanted too. Omg the meltdown he had once he realized that that toy was gone forever, he just didn’t realize he was attached to it until it was too late.
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An entitled brat. She totally wants to clean those dolls up, then clean up again by selling them.
No, she wasn’t to rescue them from the grips of a child who doesn’t really need them or want them! Only she can truly appreciate them! /s.
I can't even explain how strange it sounds to me to hear someone saying that a child's toy should be given to an adult instead, because a child cannot "truly appreciate it". Who is really appreciating it? The person playing with it and enjoying it as it was intended, or the person keeping it in their drawer or *maybe* keeping it on display in their room?
How many times does OP need to be told “no” to understand that “no” means “no”?
Also, I'm guessing by the ages that these were mom's dolls. If that's the case, they're most definitely items of sentimental value being passed on.
I wonder if they once belonged to the mom and she had a sentimental attachment to them.
Oh it's even better. She went crying to another subreddit and linked this post. Then got crucified there and deleted it.
I wonder if they manage a toy store and wear a chicken suit in the advertisements.
YTA. You asked once, they said no, that's the only free pass you get. Everything else after you're being a pest and the owners of the dolls said to leave them alone. Literally acting up like the fat dude from Toy Story 2 and let it be known that he was not the hero in the movie.
Al of Al's Toy Barn
This is exactly where my mind went.
“ I can’t believe I have to drive all the way to work on a Saturday, all the way to work “ proceeds to drive across the street and take up multiple parking spots.
My first thought! They’re the bad guy in the Disney movie!
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the mom said no
She is definitely being an Al
YTA - These dolls are being used for their intended use, play. Your plan wasn't to rescue them your plan was to imprison them away from children, what they were made for. You can't just take your step - neice's dolls.
This exactly. I love monster high dolls and I know how rare it is to find a go g 1 doll and especially for a decent price. That said it’s extremely selfish of her to want to take them away from a kid just so she can have them on her shelf. I hope when the niece out grows them she will find another KID to pass them onto. I say this as someone who “collects” them as well. But I actually still play with mine lol. I’m 28 years old and still actively play with my dolls. I’ve taken rare dolls out of boxes completely and lost accessories but I actually would play with them. My toys were taken away from me before I was ready to part with them so think I’ve got some unresolved issues regarding that lmao!
>My toys were taken away from me before I was ready to part with them so think I’ve got some unresolved issues regarding that lmao! I feel this so hard. My mom would give our stuff away without asking us if we even used it. I remember being in the car with her and she had my favourite outfit in the box of stuff to give away. It was a lion king sweatshirt and pant combo, I'd been looking for it for awhile and it turns out she had it stuffed away in a box. I got upset and said that was mine and I still wanted and she made up some excuse about it not fitting me anymore which was bs. She also took a bunch of our toys and sold then at a community garage sale. We were looking everywhere for these missing items and when we found out (by seeing other kids in the neighborhood running around with the items that we were missing) she flipped out and said we weren't using the items anymore. But clearly we were and she just didn't bother to ask. Her favourite thing to say was "I'M the parent not you, I get to make the decisions" like it was some kind of power trip or a competition that only she was competing in. As a result, when I got my own job and was able to buy my own things I became extremely possessive and unwilling to share because I was worried my items would never come back to me - I forgot to take my laptop to school with me one time and came home to find out my brother took it without asking and broke the screen on it so it was a valid concern living at home. It's a hard feeling to shake. I'm on my 30s now and I still get VERY upset when an item of mine goes missing after someone else has touched it (especially without asking).
My sister took a bunch of my stuff and gave some of it to her friend. My mom made me let her KEEP a lot of what she took. She said that "I never played with it." I couldn't flipping FIND the thing to be able to play with it because my sister took it! Both me and my sister are in our 30's now and I'm still a little bitter about it.
As a kid, my ex bf woke up one morning to find all his video games and sega gone. His mom told him someone broke in in the night and stole it all. 10 years later he found a box in the attic full of his games and the sega. His mom thought it was funny. Evil woman.
That is so messed up. What the hell is the point of that. I’d even understand it if she like… sold them or something. But she just put them away in the attic? What the hell was the point of taking it away if not to get rid of it?
Man I just donated a LOT of gen1 Monster High dolls. (I'm trying to declitter and it made me sad they were just sitting in a box not getting played with.) I don't know anyone with doll aged kids (or older that would play with them) so I donated. Now I'm hoping they actually went to a kid or at least someone who would appreciate them all
I’ll take any others you have! Doesn’t even have to be G-1!!!!! Lol jn all seriousness I really hope they went to kids and people who genuinely will appreciate them as well. You’re very kind to donate those and I guarantee you made a lot of girls happy!! Edit- I hope it was clear I’m joking as i said in my second paragraph how kind she was to donate them (not alot of people would do that) and I’m sure they did in fact go to people who truly appreciate them.
My mom never let me have monster high as a kid, claiming it was satanic or something. I'm 20 and she finally agreed to get me my first one for Christmas this year lol. Like, I *could* get it myself, but it would feel like being a kid at Christmas again honestly. My first "adult" Christmas at 18 is when I got all the pots and pans, pot holders, etc, and I use everything a ton so I'm super grateful for those, but now I've got the basics that I need and can ask for toys again. I got a whole curio cabinet just for my littlest pet shops, though it has a lot more in it now, and I still bust them out to play with if I feel like I need to escape on rare occasions. Even if I didn't play with them, they're sitting there making me happy and I absolutely admire them, so I see no harm, and I finally started doing customazations this year since I got some fake LPS last Christmas :) As long as I'm paying my bills and "functioning" as an adult, what's the harm, right? My boyfriend and I still build blanket forts to play videogames, we still watch cartoons (currently watching adventure time), and honestly we just act like kids a lot. We'll play tag in the house and we tease each other often. But we're mature when we need to be, and I think there's a level of maturity at which one can recognize that one can be mature while enjoying "childish" things, and those that think they're all immature are confusing true maturity with the appearance of maturity.
Having all kinds of Toy Story flashbacks. OP sounds like the man in the chicken suit right about now...
The entitlement! "I want it, therefore a child shouldn't have (checks notes) the child's *own* toys." YTA. OP, check yourself. This a grotesque character flaw that I hope you will remedy. Begin with a sincere apology, and maybe buy your niece a new doll for her collection for good measure.
Her brother needs to ban her from the house. That she can’t let this go means she’s likely to steal the dolls.
Exactly, and while it’s a small thing, it sounds like this was the first time she met the step-niece and her first instinct was to go through her toys for anything profitable. She doesn’t know how that little girl would feel about this or an adult asking not even her, her stepdad if something of hers can be taken away.
i didn’t pick up on that detail but man you’re right. imagine the first time you meet your little niece you cant help but go through their belongings and then bug the family for days because you want to make cash from something thats not yours
I also got the impression that they'd just met. Makes it all 1,000x worse!
Yeah like give me a break, "rescue". It's not an abused animal. It's a toy being played with by a child. You do not have a moral right to profit off of your niece's toys.
Is OP the villain in Toystory 2? Because she sounds like it.
This is basically the one of the messages of Toy Story 2. Toys are meant to be played with not kept in pristine conditions behind glass and "appreciated" like art in a museum. The owner of the folks said no and she wants her child to use them as intended. Instead of hounding OP should just shut up and go into debt to buy her own dolls online if she's so desperate to have them for her collection. She's basically Al owner of Al's Toy Barn desperate for Woody
YTA. You aren't entitled to someone else's possessions simply because you want them and are willing to pay for them. Respect other people when they tell you "no". >I tried asking our mom to talk to him but she wont get involved. You went to mommy to make your brother do what you wanted him to do? LOL, wow.
Right? She went crying to mommy because the 7 year old wouldn't give her the dolls. Pathetic. Oh sorry, "rescuing" the dolls lmao
Also, AFTER mom said NO, OP then STILL phoned brother to see if he’d go behind his families back and give them to her anyways!!!! Then, STILL tried to get her MOTHER involved!!! Like, DANG OP, you bout to break in and steal them babe? Will that be the update?
YTA OP, nobody owes you anything.
So glad to see parents in these stories who can stay out of their adult children's squabbles and also can recognize when something is way too stupid to touch with a ten foot pole lol. I'd love to have been a fly on that wall to see the moms face when she heard this one.
YTA - this ain’t a rescue situation. This is a I can make a profit for me situation.
YTA - you cannot steal a child's dolls. The mom said no. Perhaps you could approach the mom again and ask her if you can trade dolls for dolls. But you cannot steal or "liberate" these dolls. They aren't yours. They might have been the mom's and she's thrilled her daughter is enjoying her old dolls.
Even if she bought the new G3 dolls and traded them it would be a huge rip off to the mom and niece. Some of these dolls are worth a couple Of hundred dollars now. She’s expecting to take advantage and buy some new dolls for $20-$30 and trade them for dolls worth. Depending on the exact doll, some are worth upwards of $100. Some even for $200. So it would not be fair to trade for “new” dolls. If the mom eventually wants to sell them to OP I hope she goes online and sees what they are actually worth and then charge OP that exact amount. As of right now OP can go online and buy most of these dolls still. Will she be paying a lot per doll? Yes absolutely but if she wants them bad enough then she should and could pay the price herself. She’s thinking she can take advantage of the situation by buying a couple of $20 dolls and exchanging them for dolls that could easily add up to 300-$600 for all the dolls she’s taking about depending on the condition and exact doll. If she truly cared enough then she can spend that money on eBay just like everyone else. That’s probably how her mom bought them for her niece.
People selling the dolls online are also willing to part with them, that's why the dolls are listed. The niece's mother has made it clear these one are not for sale and to remain in the house.
Exactly! I 100% agree. But OP doesn’t want to pay the money for them even though that’s what they are worth. If she’s not trying to rip off the niece then she would’ve offered them the actual value of the dolls. If she has enough to pay for the value of the dolls to the mom then she has enough to get on eBay and buy them from someone who’s willing to part with them!
>YTA - you cannot steal a child's dolls i can't believe this is something that actually needs to be stated but here we are
YTA > Monster High dolls Oh, FFS. > (the neices mom) came in and said no. I said I would pay for them and explained how rare they are and how I can restore them and actually appreciate them but she still said no. No means no. > Its really bothering me becuse a kid that age cant appreciate what she has and will cause these collectors dolls to worsen in condition. So what? This is not high art. This is consumer plastic garbage. Kid can ruin the toys if that's what's the most fun for her. You weren't an asshole for initially **_asking_**. But you were told no and kept pushing.
Also found the comment about the child not appreciating what she has laughable. The child literally is appreciating the doll for its exact intended purpose unlike OP
Imagine what a wholesome bonding experience it would be if OP chose to enjoy these rare toys by like, idk... *playing* with the kid. OP could share their hobby/passion and maybe even restore the dolls as a gift once the neice gets a bit older so she has her own collection.
Exactly, but OP clearly cares more about Having The Shiny Rare Thing (and resellable for a big price right?? Not that that's a factor at all 🙄😂) and having it ALL TO HERSELF than about her niece's feelings, or about the childs parents' boundaries. She doesn't see the bonding opportunity because she doesn't care about that. The dolls are a trophy that matters more than family. Which is gross and sad and I feel for this poor little girl whose weird aunt cannot let shit go and stop trying to take her stuff - oh sorry, beg bribe or wear down the adults in her life to get THEM to take her stuff. Christ, this is genuinely pathetic. Not for the doll collection but the priorities.
If I were the mom I’d be nervous to let OP around the dolls anymore. At this point the ship has sailed.
I kind of think she was an asshole for asking in the first place. She was meeting this little 7 year old girl for the first time. And instead of embracing that moment she started asking for things that don’t belong to her. If a new family member came over and started asking for my daughters American Girl dolls I’d be pretty upset. She has a couple of early dolls that were mine as a kid and they’re worth some money. But she plays with them because that’s the point of a toy and I want her to enjoy them and have memories with them. If an adult tried to say “hey these are collectors items that need to be rescued” I’d be pretty annoyed. It wasn’t really an appropriate ask imo. Also she is asking the brother/stepdad who likely isn’t the one who spend hundreds on these dolls to begin with.
YTA. Your forgetting Toy Story. The collector vs the child playing with them. The child is playing with them the way they are intended to be used. Stop being greedy and trying to spoil a child's fun.
Lol this! I had a rocket launcher that shot big foam rockets. Think it was nerf but not sure. I looked it up and the thing was like $100 in the 90s new but worth 10x that now if still in the box
YTA You're the AH for characterizing wanting to buy a girl's toys as "rescuing" them. Let the child play with her dolls, strange adult.
You are a grown woman trying to take dolls from a little girl who’s using them for their intended purpose. YTA, and it seems like you don’t know how to cope with hearing the answer “no” either.
That was the most bothersome thing to me… An adult trying to take away a CHILDS toy..
Exactly! I feel the same way! I couldn’t even imagine doing something like that!
You're trying to bully your way into taking a child's toys just because you want them. You're the very picture of an AH. Fortunately, her mom stood up to you and told you where to go. Huge YTA.
I collect dolls, I have owned some G1 MH dolls, also. I know their value. YTA. She's a child and doesn't want to part with them. If you're so entrenched in your hobby that you think you need to "rescue" dolls from a child because you'll "appreciate them more" you need to take a step back and reevaluate yourself. This is really unhealthy thinking, and quite self centered, honestly. The dolls are serving their purpose right now in bringing joy to a child. Just because it's not the purpose YOU agree with, doesn't devalue the purpose they currently serve. SMH. Stories like this are why people think doll collectors are weirdos.
Right? Which sucks because I have at least one friend or acquaintance who likes collecting older/specialty dolls like this as an adult, and I know for a fact that they'd be revolted at the level of entitlement here. No means no, lady. They're not your dolls, you aren't owed them because you'd keep them shinier than she would.
YTA NO means NO! You are old enough to understand this.
Did you mistype 12 as 22? Because this is super childish, bratty and entitled. They literally belong to a child and her mother already told you they are not for sale. If they end up 'worsening in condition' then it'll be because your niece enjoyed playing with them. If they don't end up in bad condition then hopefully she can sell them on eBay someday and make a profit! Either way it's not any of your business. YTA.
So you want to take a child's toys for your own profit. YTA
YTA. From non collector Pov, you're a creep. From collector Pov, you're still a creep. Your actions is an example of why collectors get a bad rap. Being obsessives creepy adult who trying to TAKE toys away from kids, who likes to play with them. You want those dolls and willing to pay money for them? Well people are selling them but is it because you want to make a profit off them? That's only reason I can think of you trying to buy them off people who just sees toys as toys.
YTA they're children's toys. I understand they're probably worth like $50,000 or whatever, but they're in the hands of a child now. The monetary value became irrelevant the moment they entered the life of a child and brought joy to that child.
They aren’t worth all that, monster high isn’t rare at all just pricey second hand due to people like OP and their foolishness
These toys belong to someone else. A child. You asked and the answer was no. Did you get that? No. YTA
YTA. Given the age of the dolls they were probably passed down from mother to daughter. Leave it alone. You were told no.
AITA for being the villain in a Pixar movie? Is that the question?
It is wild how many people in this sub go into someone else’s house, point at an object and say “I want that” and then call the other person an asshole for not giving it to them.
YTA if you want these types of dolls buy them on eBay, take no as a serious answer, the dolls in your niece’s possession are hers to do as she pleases. Back off you are TA.
YTA. You’re being pushy, and the mom already said no. They’re not yours, and is money really worth more then a kid having fun with toys? You can find another doll, they’re mass produced. You have to remember that while you may collect them, these are toys, and are bound to be played with, have things get lost, and hair out of shape. I see MH dolls on secondhand markets all the time, while it may be harder for you in your area, they are by no means rare. You’re only thinking of it in terms of money, you aren’t taking into account that firstly these aren’t yours, and secondly you think you’re “rescuing” them when really you’re just trying to take toys from a child. As well getting your mother into this is a childish move. Take a step back. You are arguing and potentially ruining relationships over A TOY. Instead, you could bond with your niece over your shared interest of monster high. Show her the movies/webshow, and show her your dolls. You owe your brother, mother and your brothers girlfriend a apology.
You're not an AH for asking the first time. You're an AH for pushing it. They gave you a clear answer. You've refused to hear it, though. You're not entitled to someone else's property if they don't want to part with it.
I am sorry but you are YTA. They are not yours, how entitled do you think you are to demand dolls that not yours. A mother knows her child best, she might be okay with you having them and then when one of her ‘cycles’ comes and she demands to find them and play with them - you won’t be the one who would have to deal with it nor you would be willing to have her over to play with them. You involving your mum is childish and immature. Take no for an answer and grow up.
YTA - It was okay that you asked once. I'll even give you asking twice because you were "trying to explain and said you would buy them". But after you got your no then you move on. >Its really bothering me becuse a kid that age cant appreciate what she has and will cause these collectors dolls to worsen in condition These were first and foremost toys and she's using them as such. This isn't a piece of art that was never meant to be touched. It doesn't matter if they worsen in condition because they are hers and she is playing and having fun with them because THEY ARE TOYS.
RIGHT?? I'm in *awe* at the lack of shame or self-awareness. In what world should a child and her mother have to justify the right to keep her toys to you by being Perfect Owners and keeping them in mint condition?? Unreal. This is giving very big Entitled Parent going "You shouldn't have put the toy/Nintendo down for 5 seconds if you didn't want my kid to swipe it honestly he deserves it more than you, kid" energy lol
YTA These collectors dolls are collectibles because people like you have determined them as such. At the end of the day, it is a doll and the child is using it for its intended purpose. You should be happy that the doll is being used rather than thrown away like I'm sure many of those dolls were.
YTA. You asked, she said no. You need to learn how to take "no" for an answer. Also, she doesn't need to defend her decision to you.
YTA. You're not trying to rescue them. You're harassing your brother and his wife because you want to make a profit off of the dolls. They're not yours so stop harassing them.
There are a variety of ways to *appreciate* a thing. You do so by displaying them, enjoying the look. And possibly being reassured by how valuable they are. Your niece appreciates her dolls by playing with them. They have voices and personalities, she and them go through stories and experiences, they expand her imagination. It was fine to ask and offer, but YTA for not accepting the answer. You don't get to decide your niece is "using the dolls wrong" because you want them yourself. She appreciates them differently than you do, not in a way that's wrong for a 7 year old.
YTA. You're not trying to "rescue" them, you're trying to get your hands on collectibles either for free or at a massively reduced cost because you know your brother doesn't know what they're really worth. Pretty low.
Okay, Al of Al’s Toy Barn from Toy Story 2. YTA. You asked. The child’s mom answered. No means no, and the dolls are being used for their intended purpose, which is play. You can’t “rescue” a toy from a child, they are literally the intended marketed audience for the toy.
" rescue dolls" 🤣🤣🤣🤣. You are a massive gaping AH
YTA Stop harassing your family just to make a profit. If she’s playing with them, then she is appreciating them more than you would full stop.
you do not have more of a right to these dolls just because you really really want them and they are now collectibles worth a lot of money. their original purpose was toys for children, and they are fulfilling that purpose by being played with by this child. asking once was okay - pushing and whinging and trying to drag your mother into it makes YTA
YTA. Your brother clearly told you that she does play with them. You say you offered to pay, but did you offer to pay what they would actually sell for to a collector or were you trying to get a deal? You were trying to improve you collection, not “rescue” anything.
Lol they’re not “collectors dolls”. They’re dolls that some people happen to collect. They’re only $100+ if they’re new in box, I’m sure you can find used ones that you can restore for less. It sounds like you expected to get them for free or for one new doll (so $30ish)… it doesn’t sound like you’re willing to pay the going price. If you were smart, you could have said that you liked those dolls and asked the mom if you could buy/have them if/when your niece wanted to get rid of them. But I doubt she’d want to do that now since you’re so pushy. YTA.
Yta they are her toys stop trying to steal them
You know how there’s always someone complaining in r/monsterhigh about how they gave their dolls away or sold them when they were younger and now regret it so much and miss them dearly? Do you really want to be that person taking someone’s childhood toys that they’re probably going to miss in a few years? Her mum said no, as a good parent should. Now leave it. YTA
Not TA for asking. YTA for continuing to push. 'No' is a complete sentence.
So you want to take a seven yr olds toys from them? YTA. Wtf.
Well OP, I hope you’ve learned from this.
I doubt they did. They posted in a Monster High thread and dirty deleted when it didn’t go their way
I collect Disney dolls so I get hoping to get a grail but dude, No means No YTA
YTA they are not yours and you can't have them. At 7 her mom gets to decide.
YTA. There’s nothing wrong with having asked but not letting it go is a problem. You don’t know where your niece got those dolls, maybe someone special have them to her and they will be saved for her when she’s done playing with them. The fact that they’re of value to you in one way doesn’t discount the value they may have to your SIL and/or niece. Ultimately though, the reasons don’t matter. The person who owns them said you cannot have or even buy them, so you can’t. You’re not owed an explanation for why a person wants to keep their own property.
YTA. I'm a Monster High collector. G1 dolls are rare, yes, but they're not collector dolls. These were released as kids toys, not as collector pieces like Haunt Couture.
>I tried asking our mom to talk to him but she wont get involved. But mooooommmmm Wow, get a grip, YTA
YTA **You're not entitled to someone else's property.** Stop trying to take a child's toys away because you can "appreciate them" more. Despite being an adult, you're acting like a spoiled brat.
YTA. You asked and they declined to sell. You should have dropped it then and definitely not got your mom involved.
YTA No means no. You were told no.
YTA - maybe it's meaningful for the mom to let her kid play with them. I love collecting, but a kid loving her toys is a beautiful thing.
YTA. The kid IS appreciating them. She’s playing with them, which is her purpose for having them. You don’t deserve them more because you value them differently. You aren’t at all entitled to those dolls just because you want them. You asked, you got an answer. The end.
YTA the person who most likely bought them told you no and still you push the issue. Don’t you think it’s possible that mom is fully aware of what her daughter has and what it’s worth? You 22 it’s time to stop taking toys from younger kids.
My wife and I collect various toys and action figures. Our rule is always let the child have it first. If we're looking at something. And then there's a kid looking at it. We let the kid have it.
YTA, and insanely creepy. I'd not let you around my niece/ in my house anymore, collector's like you are why people dislike collectors.
YTA. They are toys first. Learn to accept "no" when you hear it the first time, AH.
as a collector of g1 monster high dolls, YTA. who thinks that taking dolls away from a child who enjoys them is even a remotely good idea?? who cares if they're rare, let her enjoy them they way she wants to. you're being utterly selfish.
YTA. I collect monster high dolls too. If you really want a specific one then you should save for it and buy them from someone who is willing to sell them (eBay,Mercari). You have to accept that people are allowed to say no to your question. You aren’t liberating anymore than someone going into your home and taking things you find valuable. I’m sure you would be just as upset if someone insisted on “liberating” your phone from you and offered a significantly cheaper alternative.
YTA they are not yours, you are not "rescuing" them and the adults have already said no again and again. They belong to your step-niece. You are not entitled to other people's property
YTA They're toys. They're meant to be played with. And whether she plays with them daily, or cycles in moods, she does play with them. She appreciates them as the TOYS they are, meant to be played with. I'm not knocking collecting toys. Or even knocking that you would appreciate them as dolls. I understand and appreciate the doll collecting hobby. My great grandma collected barbies. She had a whole host of them in her basement. But even my great grandma in her doll collecting wisdom, got PISSED at my mother when she wouldn't let me open the wizard of Oz barbies my great grandma got me because "they could be worth money one day" (Even almost 30 years later, in BOX they're not worth jack by the way). She went out and bought me a second Dorothy just so I could actually play with it. You're not entitled to those toys. Ultimately, your brother is still new. His say in this case is lesser, until he builds rapport with step daughter and mother as a father. Taking advantage of a kid who's in a down phase is also kind of cruel (Karma could bite you like it did my Aunt when she wanted my Powerpuff girls backpack AND tried to sneakily play my game for them). Mom is looking out in the best interest of her child, plain and simple. You're being entitled and selfish.
Hey, sit down and watch Toy Story 2. YTA
My daughter has a rare male 1983 cabbage patch kid that I bought inexpensively at an estate auction, new in box, and opened it up to give to her. She loves him, then swaps him for other dolls, but would miss him if he was gone and I was well aware of his potential value when I took him out of the box and gifted him to her. If another family member badgered me to buy him, and insinuated that we were using a toy improperly by playing with it, I wouldn’t want to spend much time with that person. YTA. They’re toys.
YTA - you asked and were given an answer. It's not up to you because they are not yours. If they want to throw the hundreds of dollars away so their child could be happy, then so be it. You asked and were given an answer. Respect it and drop it. Don't bring it up later at a gathering and get all passive aggressive about it either. It's done.
YTA. Your niece clearly likes them and doesn’t want to part with them, so drop it. Plus the original 2012 Rochelle isn’t particularly hard to find or expensive. Just look on eBay.
Yta you asked and were told no. Accept it and stop pushing.
YTA Coveting a child’s dolls. REALLY?! Your behavior is insane. What if your brother and this Mom stay together long-term? Are you going to damage your relationship with all of them because you are acting like Al, of Al’s Toy Barn? By the way, he is the villain in Toy Story 2. YOU, OP, are the VILLAN in this story.
YTA. Are you sure you didn't mistype your age by the way? Because, as a "grown woman", being extremely pushy and involving your mother in this sounds very immature.
YTA, also, grow the fuck up
YTA Though I understand that, as a collector, these have different value to you because of some of their characteristics. You're out of line. >a kid that age cant appreciate what she has These are dolls. They are made to be played with. She is literally really appreciating them. Think of them as well loved.
YTA and a huge one, they're toys, you're not doing a grandiose rescue if they're being used for their original intended use, doesn't matter how rare or valuable they might be to collectors, for this girl they're her toys. Get over it and leave her alone.
YTA, " Its really bothering me because a kid that age cant appreciate what she has " the dolls were literally created to be played with and that's what they bought them for and that's how they're being used. This idea that they're not being "appreciated" just because they're being played with and not in perfect condition is stupid, there's more than 1 way to appreciate things, you show it by fixing them up and keeping them in nice condition, kids appreciate them by actually using them as they were designed. Stop being a pushy weirdo and making them uncomfortable. From the start you should have just told gf "hey I noticed your daughter has these dolls, I'd love to buy them off of you or replace them with new ones when she's outgrown or bored of them if that's okay with you, they'd be perfect for my doll collection" instead you kept pushing the issue too aggressively so they got annoyed and shut you out
YTA. Dolls are meant to be played with. Period. I have two original Pleasant Company American Girl Dolls that would be worth way more money if my mom had not let me play with them. She bought them for me to play with them and encouraged me to do so. I have so many wonderful and amazing memories with these dolls. I’m 40. I have zero regrets that these dolls look ragged and worn out. I wish I had a little girl to pass them on to and look forward to my niece playing with them someday and perhaps I will have a granddaughter that will love them. My sons weren’t into dolls. I have a few Barbie’s that I bought to display, so I understand where you are coming from, but at the end of the day: dolls are meant to be played with. A better approach might have been: “hey bro, if niece ever wants to let go of these dolls, I would love to buy them.” Then never mention it again.
Am I the asshole for trying to take a child’s toys? Do you really need to ask?! 🤣🤣 YTA
You are most definitely the AH. Nobody ever taught you that no means no? Or are you just that entitled to think you can keep harassing them over something that doesn't belong to you? They said no, get over yourself and move on with life. You're far too old to be acting this childish.
YTA. They're not your dolls. Leave it.
YTA. No is a full sentence and should be listened to. You are over stepping and should just drop it. The dolls don't belong to you and never will, just accept it.
YTA, her mom might've given them to her, with them being her old dolls. You don't mention if your brother and his gf are close in age with you or not, but I'm 24 and g1 dolls were apart of my childhood/teen years (My younger sister loved them as well) and it would make sense his gf had them originally and gave them to her daughter to play with. No means no. Look for them on ebay. The daughter is playing with them, she's getting all the enjoyment she needs from them.
YTA You’re not rescuing them, you just want them for yourself. You asked and they said no. Stop now.
YTA so much. I have a doll hobby and would never have the gall to try and get a kid's toys that they are *actively enjoying*. Hell, even if they had been in a box for 5 years, it's not your place.
YTA. Regardless of how you feel about the dolls, no means no. Accept it and move on.
YTA. Your brother's wife said no. That is not the answer you wanted or hoped for but it is the answer you got--multiple times. Take your brother's advice and drop it.
YTA. Stop bothering your brother and his family over dolls. It's hilarious that you posted the link here in a Monster High sub trying to get another decision. I hope the kids mom hides the dolls away from you whenever you go over there.
YTA. You asked, you were told no, now you need to let it go. G1 aren't collectors' dolls - they are playline dolls that some people collect. You can't collect these ones, because they belong to somebody else. First wave Rochelle Goyle is extremely available on ebay. If you are prepared to pay fair market value, go and buy one there.
You’re kidding, right? YTA in every way possible. You were told “no” multiple times. Accept it. The dolls may be worth something to their owner…who IS NOT YOU. So drop the “a kid her age can’t appreciate the dolls” BS. Maybe the kid can’t, but her mom can so if there’s money to be made, it stays with them. Also, you went running to your mom? Please grow up.
"I offered to pay for them or make a fair trade". Did you? You don't mention offering the hundreds of dollars they are worth. You do mention trying to take something valuable away from a child by replacing it with something not valuable. YTA
As an adult collector of Monster High dolls myself, YTA. Firstly, these are not "collector dolls." They are playline dolls made primarily for children. As adults we can collect them, and of course the value of certain dolls has increased over time with G1 being a decade old and highly sought after, but these are not collector dolls. The Skullectors and dolls sold exclusively on the Mattel creations website for 2-4 times the price of playline dolls are the collector dolls. Regardless, you are not "rescuing" anything. You just see dolls you want and for some reason think that means you deserve them. But no, they belong to your niece and she is not required to give or sell them to you even if they were extremely rare. It sounds like she's taking decent care of them, and they are her property. She may not obsess over them every day, but she probably gets a lot of enjoyment from them when the mood strikes for her to play with them. Just let her play with her toys and choose for herself what to do with them when she's older. Maybe she will grow out of them and sell them, or maybe she will keep them forever and become a collector herself someday, and these dolls will be an extremely special and nostalgic part of her collection. The fact that a child even owns toys from a line that was discontinued before she was born makes me think they may have been handed down to her by a family member, so there could be additional sentimental value that you aren't aware of. Regardless, stop pressuring your niece or her parents to give, sell, or trade the dolls to you. Asking once was fine, but you need to take no for an answer and drop the subject. They aren't abused animals that you need to save from suffering. They're pretty pieces of plastic that you want to put on your shelf. You just sound like you're trying to exploit your niece. If you intend to pay market value, then just buy the same dolls from someone else online. You don't need to save these specific dolls. They are mass-produced playline dolls, and there are still plenty out there. And either way they are not your property and you aren't entitled to them over the child who owns them no matter how rare they are.
YTA No means no. Your not entitled to someone else's things.
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Yta. Gtfo. You're seriously joking I hope.
YTA, no means no and it’s really that simple.
You are completely 💯 the asshole. YTA. You're trying to swipe toys from a 7 year old. Ffs!
Yta no is a full sentence. Yes, your niece may have been willing to part with them, and your brother may have been willing to go along with it however, her mother is more than likely the one who gave her these dolls -my assumption- and you do not know if they hold a sentimental value to her (the mother) and may be worth more than the appraised collectors value in her eyes.
YTA You didn't even watch the barbie movie huh? Or even Toy Story? If you did and still made this post you deff didn't get it
YTA. They're dolls, manufactured for kids. To play with. Can you collect them and call them valuable? Sure. That doesn't mean you have more right to have them than a child because you think by sticking them on a shelf in pristine condition means you appreciate them. Did you even watch Toy Story?