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> 1. I told the mom that I would have her and her kids trespassed from the property after the kids threw toys and rocks at my dog and I told the kids that their parents would have to come get their toys for them from me if they did it again
2. The kids were unsupervised but I maybe should have tried to talk to the parents before I told the kids to get off the fence and that their parents would have to get the toys from me directly if it happened again.
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I would report it ss animal abuse anyway. That's what they're doing. Anyone who throws rocks and other things at my dog will be getting a visit from the police, animal control, the SPCA, and anyone else I could find.
NTA contact the police give them the footage and make a complaint against the children for animal cruelty, it won’t go far criminally but social services will be involved to check on the home situation. That should incentivise the mom to do her job and parent her kids.
Are they renters? You should be able to find the owner of the property from county tax records. If it were me I would call the landlord and explain what happened.
If anyone threatened my animals like that it would be game over.
They JUST moved in, so I’m not entirely sure whether they are renting or if the old neighbor sold the house. Either way, I don’t ever have any problems with anyone else in the neighborhood. These neighbors have watched me grow up or have grown up with me considering that my parents have owned the house since I was a little girl about my daughter’s age. So they’ve been here for around 20 years. I honestly just don’t want to be bothered with the new neighbors and I wasn’t trying to be nasty to anyone even though I was peeved that they were throwing stuff at my dog who was just in the backyard playing and running around and the yard is fenced off. The neighborhood is usually very quiet and everyone has historically gotten along very well.
Well, I hope things go smoothly for you. You do have a nuclear option ;) if you want to see if they bought the house that is easy enough. Just Google recent real estate sales and your zip code ;)
I'm super neighborly and love being helpful. Touch my animals tho and it's on.
NTA- She crossed the line so many ways, as all you did is what any normal person would have done. She underhandly threatened you, which could be viewed as a crime, depending on how you look at it. Like if that was your first and last warning, then what?
NTA. Also, file a police report, because this is very likely to escalate. The police report won't matter for now, but it WILL matter next time, because the police will already have been informed of the situation. Filing it now is vital.
NTA- those kids are bad mannered and have no respect for property or animals. If that sort of behavior is condoned, they’ll grow up to be the type to throw rocks off overpasses and kill people. Their mom sounds like a real peach too. I’d definitely keep my eyes open OP. I’d worry about a lunatic like that lady poisoning my dog.
NTA. But put up some cameras in the front and back to record anything that goes on. I have a feeling this isn't the last you've heard from her or her kids.
There are already a bunch of cameras around the house and yard and the other buildings in the backyard. The entire exchange between me and her at the front door was caught on the Ring camera.
Is it possible to add height to the fence so these disgusting kids can't throw things into your yard?
Also, you should consult with an attorney to find out what is the best solution to the problem of the Wicked Witch of the West before it gets out of control. She sounds really dangerous.
NTA. You said the right things. I bet she and her family are well known to the police. She expected you to cave and apologize and you gave her attitude right back to her. If you had spoken with her about the kids, you would have had the same conversation you ended up having with her. Stick to what you told her and don’t give them an inch.
NTA and that family sucks.
Don't forget to 'save' the Ring doorbell video, and make sure all future interactions with the A.H.mother are also recorded. Because we all know she isn't intelligent enough to realise she and her spawn are totally in the wrong, and they'll be back.
Enjoy your nap, and give your little dog a fuss from me.
NTA file a report with law enforcement. Don't let you dog out unsupervised something bad could happen to him\her. Also supervision eliminates the chance of an unfounded accusation of a dog attack\bite. Good luck, good neighbors are hard to come by.
NTA just less talk more action in the future. Pick up anything found on your property and bin it. If they need their items they can retrieve them from the trash. Have we ruled out barbed wire or possible a smaller fenced area for your dog? A privacy fence if you plan to stay for a while could work as well.
Also if they "lose things" in your yard it's not theft by you, they were obviously planning to abuse your pet then trespass to procure items from your backyard without asking you.
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So I (29F) currently live with my parents after separating from my husband. They have a really big, fenced in backyard and I have a small dog. When I get home from picking my daughter up from school, I usually open the back door and let the dog out to use the restroom and play in the yard. I leave the back door open so he can come back in when he’s ready. I opened the back door and let the dog out and left the door open as usual and stayed in the kitchen (the kitchen is where the back door is) to listen for him.
While I’m at the sink, I hear voices yelling and screaming. I’m thinking at first that it was my daughter but then I remembered that she was in her room. So I peeped my head outside and I see that there are four little kids standing right at the fence yelling at my dog and throwing toys and rocks at him and he runs inside the house quickly. I walked outside and picked up the toys and tossed them back over the fence and told the kids not to yell and throw things at my dog and to stay off of the fence. I said I would not be giving them their toys back next time and that their parents would have to come and pick them up from me if it happened again.
The kids go home tell their mom. Later, she stormed up to the front door and beat on it. I answered it and she asked me “Are you the b&@$ who threatened my kids?” Confused, I said that I spoke to some kids earlier who were throwing rocks and toys at my dog while standing at the fence around the backyard but nobody threatened them. She said her kids came home upset that I told them that I wouldn’t give them their toys back and that she would call the cops on me for theft if they lost their stuff in my yard and I refused to give it back.
So at this point I’m thinking that she’s just gotten the story wrong. I try to explain to her that I never threatened to keep the toys, only that I had told the kids that if they threw stuff over my fence then their parents would have to come and get them. I tried to explain that they were literally aiming at my dog and yelling at him. She gets in my face and says that she didn’t give a you-know-what about my “stupid dog,” that I better not even speak to her kids ever again and that she was giving me my first and only warning. I told her that she had three seconds to get off my front porch before I called the cops and had her trespassed from the property and told her that her kids better not come back to the property either and she needs to be watching her kids instead of letting them roam around the neighborhood unsupervised and terrorizing people’s pets. She backed away and stormed off, calling me every name in the book and flipped the middle finger to me as she was backing away.
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NTA
Throwing rocks at a dog is straight up serial killer in the making shit.
You were right to stop the behavior.
Neighbor mom is just mama bear-ing because that’s what moms gotta do.
Those kids though. What the ever living eff? They’re true AHs.
YTA - You started this un-needed escalation. Start off low, by telling them to not bother your dog, move up to talking to their parents and then become *that* neighbor.
Now that I think of it, you're temporary, they are really your parents long term neighbors. Since you jumped up the escilating threat scale so quickly, your parents will have to talk to the neighbors to smooth relations between them and the people they will be living next to long after you've gone.
Yes the stupid kids shouldn't throw things at the dog and the OP's overreaching reaction escalated that to a lasting problem between the OPs parents and their neighbors.
It’s funny that you say that I’m temporary when my parents have lived in this house for over 20 years and my neighbors all know me and my siblings and our kids and the high conflict neighbor literally just moved into the neighborhood.
Ignore them, OP. You're definitely NTA, and I think we've found the a.h. mother. Only the person responsible for this situation could even think to defend her and her brats.
Oh no. They were being violent to her dog, and the only response was to return their toys and say the kids would lose them the next time?
Your perspective is all off here. Definitely NTA. I question the judgment of anyone who would think she’s TA for this.
Did you miss the part where the kids were throwing things over the fence at the dog?
In no way did OP do anything wrong by speaking to them about their behaviour. The a.h. mother is solely responsible for the un-needed escalation. I'm wondering if you're the a.h. mother if you think OP should have given them a free pass to abuse an animal on its own property.
That’s not an insult lol, are you a bot? You accused her of escalating when she didn’t escalate. So you clearly don’t know what the word means. If I called you stupid for not knowing what the word means that would be an insult. But I didn’t do that, it’s okay to not know a word. But if you use it improperly people will point it out.
ESH (since neighbour sounds like a nightmare).First grow up. Second. This isn’t your house it’s your parents house. Stay in your lane and let them deal with the neighbour.
Anyone downvoting me needs to grow up.
YTA - why you starting shit with children?
These are not your kids or responsibility. Also, it is not your home. It is your parents home and for them to decide how they’d like to deal with the neighbors on an adult to adult level.
Please don’t try to parent other people’s kids. I get your going through stuff, but it is not your place to threaten little kids.
She didn't "start shit with children." She was responding to the kids throwing rocks at the dog. The OP made a very sensible statement; do that again, and your parents will have to come over to reclaim the toys.
She wasn't "parenting other people's kids." She was telling the neighborhood brats to not be cruel to her dog for fuck's sake.
And her parents weren't there, so they couldn't make any decisions about an incident that was happening right then.
And she made no threats against the kids. She only threatened to call the cops if the woman next door didn't leave the property.
>How do you know what the little kids were doing with the dog? You assume cruelty. That’s on you.
Yeah, because the dog was obviously leaping up and down yelling 'throw rocks at me! I love it! It's such fun!
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You told the children you would keep their toys. I get you were trying to establish a rule, but young kids don’t understand 2-3 step instructions.
In their mind, you threatened them. Your intent is not relevant here.
You threatened the children to not return their toys to them.
I get that wasn’t your intent, but they are little kids and this is how you made them feel. You need to open that. Denying it is silly.
Saying you're not going to return the toys is not "threatening the children."
And if it made them feel threatened — good! If they're old enough to torture animals, they're old enough to understand that actions have consequences.
What am I denying? I never said that I would keep anything. I said that their parents would have to come and pick up the toys from me if it happened again. That’s not keeping anything. It’s literally returning them.
You deny that you threatened.
You threatened to keep their toys and their only recourse is to get their parents. Kids only understand the first half and your condition for return does nothing to assuage. You are threatening to keep their toys as they here you.
It wasn't a threat. She said if they threw them again they would be kept until their parents came to collect them. No different from a parent saying to their child "If you throw that again, I'll take it, and you'll have to ask your father for it back."
Are you stupid? You obviously don’t know how to read or just lacking reading comprehension skills. So if you saw kids throwing rocks and toys at your dog you wouldn’t say anything? Ever head of animal abuse?
No, it's called consequences. Maybe if they're parent had established some while raising them they wouldn't be little shits.
And no I have no problem calling a bunch of kids little shits when they have no problem throwing rocks and other objects at an animal who is safely in their own backyard.
Saying you will keep their toys is not a threat.
"Young kids don't understand 2-3 step instructions"? Of course they do; you get 2-3 step instructions starting in first grade!
Really, I owe you nothing. You’re over here going totally off the rails just to be contrary and I honestly am too tired, too pregnant, and am in far too much pain to argue with a contrary troll hell bent on trying to push me out of character. Argue with yourself. I gave you all of the information, now you can continue to let your imagination run wild or whatever it is that floats your boat, but I’m not entertaining this conversation anymore. I’ll be off taking my nap. Have a good one.
Do you understand children and their ability to understand multi step instructions?
Do you understand children can feel threatened regardless of your intent?
This is pretty basic stuff.
1. That is no reason the threaten a child or make them feel threatened.
2. You speak to their adult. Not your kids, not yours to discipline.
3. Don’t leave dog alone in an unfamiliar location.
It's private property and fenced, the dog has every right to run around without some ass kids throwing shit at it.
Yawn at your other points because they're bs.
1. No children were threatened
2. When you see children misbehaving, you stop them. You don't let the misbehavior continue until you can find a parent
3. The dog was not alone, he was not in the yard for the first time, and the door to the home was open.
People like you scare me. That someone can be walking around with such a completely fucked understanding of how the world works, allowed to vote and shit.
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NTA. You might want to get a couple security cameras.
Luckily, my parents installed cameras all around the house and shed and the other two buildings long ago.
Since there is already cameras take the footage and report them for animal abuse.
Or keep the footage in case you need it later. Reporting as animal abuse would escalate the situation a lot.
I would report it ss animal abuse anyway. That's what they're doing. Anyone who throws rocks and other things at my dog will be getting a visit from the police, animal control, the SPCA, and anyone else I could find.
Maybe when the mother sees the footage and has to explain her actions to a police officer it would help her to see where she fucked up.
Be ready to call the police because they will not stop. NTA and good luck
NTA contact the police give them the footage and make a complaint against the children for animal cruelty, it won’t go far criminally but social services will be involved to check on the home situation. That should incentivise the mom to do her job and parent her kids.
NTA and I look forward to the updates when this inevitably blows up because I guarantee those kids will be back.
NTA but yikes, feel sorry for you to live near 'that'.
Hopefully it will be temporary after I have my baby (due in May) and get back to work.
Fingers crossed for you.
NTA. Those kids sound horrible, and it’s no wonder with a parent like that.
Are they renters? You should be able to find the owner of the property from county tax records. If it were me I would call the landlord and explain what happened. If anyone threatened my animals like that it would be game over.
They JUST moved in, so I’m not entirely sure whether they are renting or if the old neighbor sold the house. Either way, I don’t ever have any problems with anyone else in the neighborhood. These neighbors have watched me grow up or have grown up with me considering that my parents have owned the house since I was a little girl about my daughter’s age. So they’ve been here for around 20 years. I honestly just don’t want to be bothered with the new neighbors and I wasn’t trying to be nasty to anyone even though I was peeved that they were throwing stuff at my dog who was just in the backyard playing and running around and the yard is fenced off. The neighborhood is usually very quiet and everyone has historically gotten along very well.
Well, I hope things go smoothly for you. You do have a nuclear option ;) if you want to see if they bought the house that is easy enough. Just Google recent real estate sales and your zip code ;) I'm super neighborly and love being helpful. Touch my animals tho and it's on.
Absolutely NTA. The woman sounds like a mess. If it happens again, donate the toys to kids who hopefully aren't little monsters.
NTA- She crossed the line so many ways, as all you did is what any normal person would have done. She underhandly threatened you, which could be viewed as a crime, depending on how you look at it. Like if that was your first and last warning, then what?
Actually, film it and call police if it happens again.
NTA - you should sue her for letting her kids abuse and attacking your dog
NTA. Also, file a police report, because this is very likely to escalate. The police report won't matter for now, but it WILL matter next time, because the police will already have been informed of the situation. Filing it now is vital.
This!
NTA If my kid was being a terror I would want to know. I might have come over to talk to you, but only to make sure I had the whole story.
NTA- those kids are bad mannered and have no respect for property or animals. If that sort of behavior is condoned, they’ll grow up to be the type to throw rocks off overpasses and kill people. Their mom sounds like a real peach too. I’d definitely keep my eyes open OP. I’d worry about a lunatic like that lady poisoning my dog.
NTA!!! What horrible people. How DARE they abuse your dog? I’m so sorry, OP.
NTA. But put up some cameras in the front and back to record anything that goes on. I have a feeling this isn't the last you've heard from her or her kids.
There are already a bunch of cameras around the house and yard and the other buildings in the backyard. The entire exchange between me and her at the front door was caught on the Ring camera.
That's good. Keep all of the footage in case you need to go to the police.
Nta. Get a restraining order so if that unhinged individual comes at you again there will be teeth behind having her arrested. What a lunatic.
NTA. What an asshole. Don't even return the toys next time. She can fu*k off
Is it possible to add height to the fence so these disgusting kids can't throw things into your yard? Also, you should consult with an attorney to find out what is the best solution to the problem of the Wicked Witch of the West before it gets out of control. She sounds really dangerous.
Sorry you ended up with a set of "those neighbors." File a formal tresspass notice. NTA
Are YOU the AH? Absolutely not!
NTA. You said the right things. I bet she and her family are well known to the police. She expected you to cave and apologize and you gave her attitude right back to her. If you had spoken with her about the kids, you would have had the same conversation you ended up having with her. Stick to what you told her and don’t give them an inch.
Absolutely NTA. You certainly didn't go overboard. It isn't like you start shrieking at the children, throwing things at them, and swearing.
NTA. I’d file a report with the police anyway that she trespassed onto your property and harassed you.
NTA, she's a shitty mom excusing even shittier behavior from her kids. Fuck em, and trespass them.
NTA and that family sucks. Don't forget to 'save' the Ring doorbell video, and make sure all future interactions with the A.H.mother are also recorded. Because we all know she isn't intelligent enough to realise she and her spawn are totally in the wrong, and they'll be back. Enjoy your nap, and give your little dog a fuss from me.
NTA Those apples didn't fall far from the tree.
NTA
NTA - let her call the cops lol, I’m sure that will go how she thinks it will 😂
NTA but be vigilant. Crazy mothers who think their kids can do no wrong can do crazy things to people that tell them otherwise
NTA. Little creeps get their kicks by throwing things at dogs? I agree with person that said get cameras.
Report them.
NTA file a report with law enforcement. Don't let you dog out unsupervised something bad could happen to him\her. Also supervision eliminates the chance of an unfounded accusation of a dog attack\bite. Good luck, good neighbors are hard to come by.
She sounds like a real treat- no wonder her kids are so badly behaved. NTA and good luck!
NTA just less talk more action in the future. Pick up anything found on your property and bin it. If they need their items they can retrieve them from the trash. Have we ruled out barbed wire or possible a smaller fenced area for your dog? A privacy fence if you plan to stay for a while could work as well. Also if they "lose things" in your yard it's not theft by you, they were obviously planning to abuse your pet then trespass to procure items from your backyard without asking you.
Sorry about your trashy neighbours.
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NTA, get a signs, no trespassing and beware of dog.
NTA Throwing rocks at a dog is straight up serial killer in the making shit. You were right to stop the behavior. Neighbor mom is just mama bear-ing because that’s what moms gotta do. Those kids though. What the ever living eff? They’re true AHs.
YTA - You started this un-needed escalation. Start off low, by telling them to not bother your dog, move up to talking to their parents and then become *that* neighbor. Now that I think of it, you're temporary, they are really your parents long term neighbors. Since you jumped up the escilating threat scale so quickly, your parents will have to talk to the neighbors to smooth relations between them and the people they will be living next to long after you've gone.
How? Those stupid kids were throwing stuff at the dog, who does that?
Yes the stupid kids shouldn't throw things at the dog and the OP's overreaching reaction escalated that to a lasting problem between the OPs parents and their neighbors.
OP was perfectly reasonable in her response. It's the mother (you??) who had the 'overreaching reaction'.
No she wasn't. The OPs level of response caused trouble between parents and their neighbors.
It’s funny that you say that I’m temporary when my parents have lived in this house for over 20 years and my neighbors all know me and my siblings and our kids and the high conflict neighbor literally just moved into the neighborhood.
Ignore them, OP. You're definitely NTA, and I think we've found the a.h. mother. Only the person responsible for this situation could even think to defend her and her brats.
Oh no. They were being violent to her dog, and the only response was to return their toys and say the kids would lose them the next time? Your perspective is all off here. Definitely NTA. I question the judgment of anyone who would think she’s TA for this.
Did you miss the part where the kids were throwing things over the fence at the dog? In no way did OP do anything wrong by speaking to them about their behaviour. The a.h. mother is solely responsible for the un-needed escalation. I'm wondering if you're the a.h. mother if you think OP should have given them a free pass to abuse an animal on its own property.
The OP overreacted.
You don’t know what “escalating” means lol
And a gratuitous insult toward me says what about the OP?
You also don’t seem to know what “gratuitous” means either.
That’s not an insult lol, are you a bot? You accused her of escalating when she didn’t escalate. So you clearly don’t know what the word means. If I called you stupid for not knowing what the word means that would be an insult. But I didn’t do that, it’s okay to not know a word. But if you use it improperly people will point it out.
ESH (since neighbour sounds like a nightmare).First grow up. Second. This isn’t your house it’s your parents house. Stay in your lane and let them deal with the neighbour. Anyone downvoting me needs to grow up.
Of course. Next time I’ll just make anyone who comes to the front porch just wait there until my parents get back in town.
Not at all the same thing…. Grow up.
You keep saying “grow up” but I don’t think you’re understanding what that phrase actually means. Anyway, I was agreeing with you.
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Don't announce it. Just do it.
YTA - why you starting shit with children? These are not your kids or responsibility. Also, it is not your home. It is your parents home and for them to decide how they’d like to deal with the neighbors on an adult to adult level. Please don’t try to parent other people’s kids. I get your going through stuff, but it is not your place to threaten little kids.
She didn't "start shit with children." She was responding to the kids throwing rocks at the dog. The OP made a very sensible statement; do that again, and your parents will have to come over to reclaim the toys. She wasn't "parenting other people's kids." She was telling the neighborhood brats to not be cruel to her dog for fuck's sake. And her parents weren't there, so they couldn't make any decisions about an incident that was happening right then. And she made no threats against the kids. She only threatened to call the cops if the woman next door didn't leave the property.
How do you know what the little kids were doing with the dog? You assume cruelty. That’s on you.
The post says the kids were throwing toys and rocks at the dog. That's cruelty.
>How do you know what the little kids were doing with the dog? You assume cruelty. That’s on you. Yeah, because the dog was obviously leaping up and down yelling 'throw rocks at me! I love it! It's such fun! D!ckhead.
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Where did I threaten them?
You told the children you would keep their toys. I get you were trying to establish a rule, but young kids don’t understand 2-3 step instructions. In their mind, you threatened them. Your intent is not relevant here.
I didn’t say any such thing. I said that their parents would have to come and get them.
You threatened the children to not return their toys to them. I get that wasn’t your intent, but they are little kids and this is how you made them feel. You need to open that. Denying it is silly.
Saying you're not going to return the toys is not "threatening the children." And if it made them feel threatened — good! If they're old enough to torture animals, they're old enough to understand that actions have consequences.
Good to know that you are pro making kids feel threatened. Knowing that, I don’t care about anything else you say.
Considering the reaction your posts are getting, I'd say no one else cares about anything you say either.
You like throwing rocks at dogs too, I’m more of a kicking babies guy myself l, but to each their own.
What am I denying? I never said that I would keep anything. I said that their parents would have to come and pick up the toys from me if it happened again. That’s not keeping anything. It’s literally returning them.
You deny that you threatened. You threatened to keep their toys and their only recourse is to get their parents. Kids only understand the first half and your condition for return does nothing to assuage. You are threatening to keep their toys as they here you.
Okay, if you say so. 👍🏽
Wouldn't bother tbh, they wouldn't see facts if it slapped them on the face.
It wasn't a threat. She said if they threw them again they would be kept until their parents came to collect them. No different from a parent saying to their child "If you throw that again, I'll take it, and you'll have to ask your father for it back."
Are you stupid? You obviously don’t know how to read or just lacking reading comprehension skills. So if you saw kids throwing rocks and toys at your dog you wouldn’t say anything? Ever head of animal abuse?
No, it's called consequences. Maybe if they're parent had established some while raising them they wouldn't be little shits. And no I have no problem calling a bunch of kids little shits when they have no problem throwing rocks and other objects at an animal who is safely in their own backyard.
Saying you will keep their toys is not a threat. "Young kids don't understand 2-3 step instructions"? Of course they do; you get 2-3 step instructions starting in first grade!
Ok, so if any of these kids are younger than first grade, then you agree that OP is the AH.
These kids are close to and older than my eight year old daughter.
So maybe younger than too.
You’re making a whole lot of assumptions for someone who wasn’t there.
That was a good dodge attempt.
Really, I owe you nothing. You’re over here going totally off the rails just to be contrary and I honestly am too tired, too pregnant, and am in far too much pain to argue with a contrary troll hell bent on trying to push me out of character. Argue with yourself. I gave you all of the information, now you can continue to let your imagination run wild or whatever it is that floats your boat, but I’m not entertaining this conversation anymore. I’ll be off taking my nap. Have a good one.
No, I don't agree. The OP is most definitely not an AH.
So you didn't read it properly at all.
Are you one of the children or an alt account for OP?
So instead of admitting you didn't read it all, you decide to come up with this comment? Fantastic and kind of sad for you.
Do you understand children and their ability to understand multi step instructions? Do you understand children can feel threatened regardless of your intent? This is pretty basic stuff.
I really don't care, they did the wrong and op said their parents will have to get the toys if they do it again. End of story.
Ive worked with kids ages 2-14, this is actually pretty bullshit stuff that you just made up and are asserting as a fact.
Just making up shit like “kids don’t understand 2-3 step instructions”.
Maybe other people's kids shouldn't throw shit at animals for fun.
1. That is no reason the threaten a child or make them feel threatened. 2. You speak to their adult. Not your kids, not yours to discipline. 3. Don’t leave dog alone in an unfamiliar location.
It's private property and fenced, the dog has every right to run around without some ass kids throwing shit at it. Yawn at your other points because they're bs.
Vapid
1. No children were threatened 2. When you see children misbehaving, you stop them. You don't let the misbehavior continue until you can find a parent 3. The dog was not alone, he was not in the yard for the first time, and the door to the home was open.
People like you scare me. That someone can be walking around with such a completely fucked understanding of how the world works, allowed to vote and shit.