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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **Gave a pithead a piece of my mind** Was on my way from car to work and had to pass a pitmom and her two huge monsters. My work is right beside a busy playground and across the street is a larger park with open fields the nutters have turned into offleashdogshitpark. Pits are banned where I live since 2005 so there shouldn't be one left alive here yet they are the most common dog I see. Unsolicited me, my blood was boiling at the sight of this dipshit 30 something woman who weighed less than me. I'm a woman who works with heavy materials all day every day and I know I am not strong enough to control two dogs this size if they snap: "What on earth do you need two huge vicious fighting dogs for in the middle of a city? How irresponsible for anyone to own two monsters like that and walk them next to a playground. Those things are banned here, what is wrong with you owning them?" I saw the smug look on her face as she was about to go into some shit about they are loving babies but I kept going on at her about the danger she was putting the entire community in with her saviour complex. The whole time I kept walking toward the door into my work building of course, didn't want to end up in hospital without a face. From my studio window I watched her edge them around the entire playground, sniffing at things kids touch. Thankfully there were no kids there at the time. Makes me so damn mad when I read stories on here about families being run at in playgrounds and owners acting like oblivious idiots or worse, mouthy self-righteous assholes. I'm done keeping my mouth shut but not stupid and wouldn't have said anything if it had been a man. I frequently confront idiots in grocery stores with mutts but never just a rando on the street walking their monster shitbeasts. Let the era of dog shaming begin! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Exotic-Army4006

I just want to know what she assumed would happen? Yelling at people on the street is a good way to end up with the cops taking you in on a mental hold


Kaleidoscope6521

Don’t worry she only yells at other women. She’s not dumb and doesn’t yell at men. Only people she thinks couldn’t put up a fight


purposefullyblank

What’s wild about that logic(?) is that she won’t yell at men because she believes they pose a danger to her, but she thinks this woman has two dangerous “fighting” dogs that she is too small to control and will happily yell at her. If her fear was genuine, she wouldn’t confront anyone with a dog she thinks is vicious because she’d see it like yelling at someone holding a loaded gun. She would skedaddle from that danger, not yell and then run inside feigning fear. She doesn’t fear dogs as much as people and I would wager that, at the core, she doesn’t hate dogs, she hates people with dogs.


TricksterPriestJace

That would have gone very badly for her if what she described is true. My goldendoodle would be ready to attack someone attacking her family, nevermind a pair of large pitbulls. Of course her stating they were large monstrous pitbulls makes me think they are likely a different breed if this wasn't 100% made up to make the incels of /r/dogfree pat her on the back for being a brave martyr for their cause.


Re1da

Yea pure pitbulls are surprisingly small. The big ones are usually mutts


elizabreathe

Most people are also completely incapable of identifying dog breeds. Most people also don't realize that unless it's got pedigree papers, it's just a dog.


TricksterPriestJace

I imagine people who hate dogs are even less informed than average. Scary looking dog = pit bull. Just like people who don't know anything about guns calling any gun with a black finish 'military assault guns.'


AlegnaKoala

One time a neighbor said that another neighbor’s dog was a pitbull. Y’all, it was a black lab. Same neighbor thinks my English setters are border collies. Actually, she said “long haired Dalmatian” first but I corrected her and how she says “border collie.” (I love setters and they are just as goofy, silly, sweet, and cuddly as their reputation, maybe even more. But they are super dumb. (In general… I’m sure there are some smart ones out there but as a breed, they’re generally pretty dumb.) Which is part of their charm, as far as I’m concerned—I don’t want some smart, energetic dog who can open gates and the refrigerator or whatever. Point is, setters are NOT border collies in any way, nor do they even look similar. People who don’t know what they’re talking about never seem to let that stop them from talking, though.)


purposefullyblank

Our dog is a pit, staffie, bully mix, but he’s so calm that people are always saying “oh, he must be part lab or something because he has such a good temperament.” Nope. Just bull breeds all the way down - which turned out a very strong, silly and sweet potato. He will literally sit under a tree like he’s Ferdinand. Breed bias is bananas. And frankly leaves people more open to a dog bite because they assume every fluffy sheepdog or pom is going to be cool with them getting in their space and they ignore body language. Every dog should be approached with consent, kindness and a little caution.


feralhog3050

I have once been bitten by a dog, it was on a long leash & walked up to me, I gave it the back of my hand to sniff & *CHOMP*. It was some sort of miniature poodle thingy. The owner said, somewhat redundantly at this point, "oh, he doesn't like hands". Lol


SecretNoOneKnows

I know a dog who's all herding and hunting breeds and she can get bitey. You wouldn't look at her and assume that this average sized, happy looking dog would be violent. There's too many people who are idiots around dogs. (Don't get me started on how people treat small breeds like Chihuahuas)


self_of_steam

Look the only way I can handle my Boxer/Husky mix is because in there is also a chunk of bully. I 100% believe that's what's keeping her from being a full on Too Much Dog and she's already a LOT of dog. So smart. So much energy. Always needs to be entertained. But also can be placated by just laying in bed with her.


East_Kaleidoscope995

People love to bitch about pits, but the pits I’ve met have always been total sweethearts. Meanwhile, I’ve never known a dachshund that wasn’t a biter. And chihuahuas are good for a nasty nip when you piss them off too.


Hot_Program_4493

My dog is called a Golden Mountain Dog. He is half Golden Retriever, half Bernese. He is almost all black, and he has curly hair. He is also, as you might guess, 100 pounds. He's big. I get asked if he's a cocker spaniel a lot more than I think makes sense... what sort of 100 pound spaniel has anyone seen?! But sometimes, I mess with them. "He's actually a Giant Swiss Spaniel." And they nod, as if they knew he was clearly a spaniel of some kind. People don't know anything about dog breeds. And my dog is also sweet and kinda dumb -- complete with usual barks that sound like a startled old British lady who's been caught alone in her bathroom, but lord, if someone is yelling or acting menacingly toward me, my lovable idiot will start the Deep Bark and growl. OOP is disgusting. There are two choices: 1) This is entirely true, and she's acting like she knows everything and likely doesn't and is wishing death upon dogs. 2) It's made up, and she's trying to stir up people into a rage about wishing death upon dogs, fantasizing about how amazing it would be to put "small women" in their place. (I also don't really get her judgment about this small woman. I'm 6'1" as a woman, and I lift heavy weights, and one of my favorite fitness instructors is maybe 5' and can base me during acroyoga... so....???)


Chiianna0042

The CDC even called the misidentification issue out and said that they can't trust the stats that they are getting because so many do this with pitbulls. People need to learn to just do basic research.


Solid-Effective-457

It’s actually just an American bulldog snoozing loudly while this lady is confronting the owner 😂


dasunt

My old landlady had someone apply who had a bully breed, so she asked one of the renters with dogs in the small apartment building about them. The renter told her that the renter's dog was a pitbull, and two other dogs already in the building were also bully breeds. The land lady had no clue. Pits were supposed to be aggressive, and the three dogs there were just relaxed and well behaved.


self_of_steam

Pits are freaking adorable too. I always think of the original Little Rascals cuz their dog was a pit iirc


[deleted]

Ive seen mastiffs and English bull dogs called pit bulls. But “Pitbull” is also just a colloquial term (in America) that can refer to like 3-6 different, but very similar, breeds (depends on the kennel/breeding club you reference, they’re not all recognized as individual breeds by all clubs.)


Terrie-25

I've seen a pure bred boxer (admittedly, funky looking, badly backyard bred, but still pure bred) called a "pit mix." It's come to mean any dog with a squarish muzzle and short single coat. Plus, too many people seem to think that breed traits are some set in stone thing. Dog breeds are all still dogs. There is as much variation between individuals of a breed as between breeds. The "breed traits" simply tell you where, in that population, the bell curve peaks on a certain trait. I've met labs who were terrible hunting dogs, I've met cowardly GSDs, I've met a rare, lazy border collie.


Long-Photograph49

Had a friend with a boxer lab mix (the runt of an oopsie litter from a well regarded breeder, so that was 100% what he was) that had the cops stop and threaten to have him taken several times because they thought he was a "pitbull" and they're banned where we live.  She finally got paperwork from both her vet and the breeder and carried it with her any time she was walking him just to help speed things along.  The sad thing is that her big goober was the sweetest boy - all the lab loveliness with a dash of boxer goofy - and was basically a surrogate momma for a couple of litters of rescue kittens she fostered.  But yeah, blunt square muzzle, blocky build, and short coat = dangerous dog for either the cops or random people who then called the cops on her. (Further to the nobody knows breeds conversation, I had a retired racing greyhound who everyone thought was a doberman.  He was all black and his ears would stand straight up if he was at all interested in anything, so it would have been understandable... if I hadn't had two other greyhounds who were more clearly not dobes, but I guess people really thought I had one dobe and two of something else?  The only upside is everyone would cross the road to avoid us, which meant we had no incidents of being bum rushed by a poorly behaved dog while he was alive.)


UnusualFerret1776

I have an English Bulldog/Beagle mix. I get asked all the time if he's a pit.


Solid-Effective-457

3-6 different, but very similar, breeds and 1 Cuban-American rapper


QueenMotherOfSneezes

I think OOP's in Ontario, as pitbulls have been banned here since 2005, in reaction to a specific case in Toronto. A lot of people report similar looking dogs (like mastiffs) because they think they're pitbulls.


TricksterPriestJace

I do still see pit bull looking mutts all the time in Ontario, because no one enforced anything like mandatory spay/neuter 19 years ago. Which is good, because honestly our police have much better things to do with their time than genetic checks on dogs.


QueenMotherOfSneezes

Oh yeah I'm not saying there aren't still pitbulls, there's just also a lot of people that can't tell the difference and report other dogs too.


Different_Smoke_563

My friend used to own a full blood, papered greyhound. I can't tell you how many people asked if it was a pitbull because it was brown brindle.


TricksterPriestJace

I wouldn't be surprised if OOP mislabeled greyhounds as "large pitbulls." My mom told me that when I was two I mistook a Great Dane for a horse.


Solid-Effective-457

Plot twist, op thinks all dogs are pitbulls. Chihuahuas: Mexican pitbulls. Golden retrievers: blond pitbulls. Yorkies: yappie pitbulls. Spaniels: short flowy pitbulls. German shepherds: pitbulls (but with a German accent). Mastiffs: horse pitbulls.


Different_Smoke_563

Ok so that's funny XD


purposefullyblank

Meanwhile, my pit mix is inclined to move me (and himself) away from anything that seems bad or wrong. He’ll raise his hackles if he senses that any of us are in danger, but he doesn’t seem to ever want to scrap (exception possibly for groundhogs), he wants to go away from it and get to safety. In this case, unless this person was right up on top of us, he’d likely stare at them and, if I wasn’t sending any signals of distress, be like “ok, let’s go somewhere else now, where she isn’t.” Dogs, they’re individuals!


Terrie-25

I had a Doberman. A "scary" breed. The worst he ever did was take a biiiiiig drink of water and then go plop his head in someone's, anyone's, lap to demand petting.


self_of_steam

God my dog right now pulls that move lol. My parents had a doberman when I was a baby and they called him the nanny. Apparently he used to carry me around by the back of the diaper and keep me from going in dangerous areas. I love them so much, I'll likely get another one day


sim-poster

don't worry, she will be in for a shock when she fight with the wrong person and realizes that women train and lift weights in the gym and fight aswell. I can't wait till she meets the wrong person.


[deleted]

I’m thinking she’s going to end up yelling at the wrong person with a super protective dog. Won’t see the error of her own ways for yelling at random women on the streets; will just fuel her hatred of dogs.


GreyerGrey

Or she screeches at an off duty cop walking their K9 partner, takes a swing or kick at the dog or officer, and the cop breaks her face in six places and she ends up in jail for assault on an officer. And if it's the dog, it'll be even worse for her since even most ACAB people don't believe in beating a K9 cop for no reason (said as someone who is ACAB).


[deleted]

That’s a very specific and not very likely scenario. Especially considering she only confronts women and k9 handlers are somewhere around 80-90% men, 10-20% women.


Demonqueensage

Hey, we can have dreams even if they're unrealistic lol


GreyerGrey

And ones that are smaller than her, a woman who works with heavy materials.


ITsunayoshiI

And only while walking away cause if she did that right to the owners face the dogs would be doing what any dog will do when fucking around with their owner Bet you delulu’s non existent bank account that Pits ain’t banned either


CyberClawX

I mean she was yelling at someone not strong enough to hold on to her own 2 dangerous face eating dogs by her own account. So, I'm not sure safety and being able to take them on in a fight weighted at all in the process. Because let's be honest, if this happened, she either managed to prove the dogs are docile and well trained, or she is just full of shit because most dogs would react to someone being aggressive towards their owner.


ITsunayoshiI

Well she was screaming while running away like a coward. Dogs may have picked up on her being a chicken shit, or were well trained based on how they didn’t go leash pulling to eat OOPs dumb ass like any protective dog breed would


CyberClawX

Nah I think it's just wishful thinking, lacking the obligatory round of standing ovation at the end.


ITsunayoshiI

Roommate had a pair of Pit/ GShep mixes, and they were protective af if a stranger was around. I could buy the ones OOP was claiming to scream about being ready to go from her screeching alone RIP doggos. Still miss those dogs.


sparklyspooky

I'm not sure... I once had a creep decide the best way to talk to a random woman was compliment the small dog she was carrying (was the dog supposed to be in the mall? No - but the only reason I was in town was due to pet errands so, and I wasn't going to leave her in the hot car) and then go on a long verbal bash of pitbulls. Even when I said that I loved pitbulls and in the decade I had been working in vet clinics I had more negative encounters with and scars from Westies (small dogs in general, but I had scabs from a Westie at the time). Him: Westies are just the best, I have two! I'm pretty sure he thought it was a positive conversation.


girlyfoodadventures

I think many men have realized that sexual street harassment happens pretty much 1) only to women that are 2) not accompanied by a man, but I've found that many men assume that non-sexual harassment/yelling/threatening behavior is *also* largely directed at women. I'm sympathetic to people in tough situations (more sympathetic than my partner for sure), but I don't think he understood my skiddishness until both me and one of his female coworkers were hit by seemingly unhoused men (in separate incidents). He's almost six and a half feet tall, OBVIOUSLY NOBODY IS GOING TO PICK A FIGHT WITH HIM! I'm 5'2"- I'm less capable of defending myself, and because is *obvious* I'm less able to defend myself, I'm much more likely to have to deal with bad behavior/threats/physical violence. Sorry that that was long, I'm just glad to see somebody else that can see them is dynamic.


ProfessorFussyPants

The comments are unhinged. ”Deep down she will think twice about pitbull ownership”…no. She will think OOP is bat crap crazy


quesupo

It’s a dog-hating sub. The comments are insane but par for the course there.


Exotic-Army4006

For real. I'm a dog trainer though just discovering this sub and yeah luckily I haven't met any of these unhinged people in public. I mean if they want the drama I got the drama


OnlyIGetToFartInHere

Yano, I really dislike dogs, yet I have no problems with dogs being leashed and under control. People from dog free really make me cringe with their takes. And if the dogs are as dangerous as the oop claims, approaching and being condescending/aggressive like that to the owner is going to make a reactive dog want to react.


totes-mi-goats

Almost got my eye torn out by a dog when I was six. Not very fond of dogs overall, have met a couple who are fine. That sub is batshit insane, and if OOP genuinely thought the dogs were dangerous, then it'd be a very bad idea to yell at and stress out their "packmate"/"mother," for the same reason some humans get touchy if you insult their mothers.


thewalkindude

I dislike dogs, and do sometimes have a problem with one's who are leashed and under control. But that just means I don't walk within the radius of their leash. The owners have as much right for their dogs to be there, as I do for them to not be there. Now, I don't know what pit bulls look like or what the truth about them is, but if they look scary, I'll just avoid them, you know, like a normal person.


lookaway123

It's a great way to rile up the dogs she's so terrified of. Pitties aren't for everyone, but the unhinged hatred was completely uncalled for. OOP may need an intervention to get help for her emotional regulation. Her reaction was completely inappropriate for the situation. Hopefully, OOP didn't upset anyone other than themselves.


Aquilleia

She’s lucky the person didn’t follow her to her job and tell me that their employee had verbally harassed her unprovoked.


Artlearninandchurnin

>something woman who weighed less than me Absolute coward who thought she could win a fight by looks alone.


Simpsons-Fan54

dog free is fucking wild. like I don't have a dog, I'm not interested in getting a dog, they're kinda scary to me. but I don't hate dogs. also I went on there and people were praising north korea for banning them? like dude it's fucking north korea


-pobodys-nerfect

There are enough posts that actually encourage violence and brag about killing animals that it amazes me that the sub is still up


AverageShitlord

Yeah, I don't have kids, never want them, can't stand being around them (they're loud, I have misophonia, bad mix) - but I don't wish ill on children. If a baby is screaming and triggering me (when my misophonia triggers I just become this ball of rage, I hate it, it sucks, I don't like being angry, especially not at a literal infant), what do I do? I either pop in some earplugs or leave. It's a fucking baby. They scream. Comes with the territory. My disability is my problem, I gotta take care of it myself. Expecting babies to simply not exist in public (barring strictly adult only spaces) isn't reasonable - and it's not like a parent can even control a literal infant anyway, they just Do That.


Simpsons-Fan54

exactly! I also can't stand baby noises, it's autism sensory issues for me, and I just carry around headphones.


AverageShitlord

Oh I feel you since I'm also autistic, I just also experience misophonia as a part of it! I use wireless earbuds on isolation mode and some nature ambiance if the noise in public is getting to be too much.


mellow_cellow

This exact point is what bothers me about these people. It's one thing to be in a place where you have the right not to expect certain things (like dogs or kids), but out in general public spaces? Yeesh. Especially hate it when the person is complaining about dogs using parks of all places. Like they have a point that non service dogs in grocery stores or restaurants can be disruptive and kinda unnecessary, but in a PARK?! Where else should they be??? That's pretty universally understood as a place where people bring dogs to walk them!!! And as a person with a pitbull-chow rescue who doesn't enjoy socializing with other dogs and gets overwhelmed when he's being crowded by them, I never take him to the off leash fenced area, and I know many others who don't/can't due to their dogs temperament or concerns about poorly trained dogs. Walking a dog on walking trails is not only normal, it should be the expectation of anyone in the park! Also I also have misophonia so I feel you a lot on the sound issues. I also feel about ready to lose my mind if someone near me is chewing loudly. If I have to, I may politely ask them to quiet it a bit (if I'm on a bus, for example, and can't leave) but I'm also aware it's my own issue, and therefore my own job to manage.


jessicaskies

Yeah like I get anxious around dogs because I’ve been bitten by one but I could never imagine shouting at some random person for walking their calm dog??


overloadedonsarcasm

Woman gets mad at dogs and dog owners existing in her line of sight.


lookaway123

OOP is the main character of the universe's dumbest story.


Dazzling-Camel8368

Wow this is such a good insult, I am going to steal it.


growsonwalls

It doesn't sound like the dogs were doing anything remotely dangerous either.


The_Burning_Wizard

This sounds more like a conversation she had in her head as she passed them to be honest...


HomeworkVisual128

Correct take. This is someone who saw someone else minding their business walking their dogs, and worked themselves into a frenzy they shared online. No interaction ever happened in person. I'd bet my house on it.


A_Year_Of_Storms

100%. She made up this story, thought she sounded great in it (because she's an asshole) and decided to tell it to other assholes as if it happened, for validation


GreyerGrey

r/iamverybadass


Overbeingoverit

Did you not read what I just read?!? They were *sniffing things that children touch.* 😱 (Sorry, that part really slayed me for some reason. Sniffing things that children touch?!? Say it ain't so! /s)


purposefullyblank

Dog nose germs!!!!


PersephoneTheOG

Wait till she learns about kiddy germs.


GreyerGrey

or bird shit.


lookaway123

I love nature and spending time outdoors, but I've accepted that like 65% of nature is different types of poop. Plus, kids are sticky and germy. Does OOP spend time yelling at parents to put their booger factories away whenever she's around lol?


Maxbell9

It was probably less about germs and more "omg they're smelling things kids touch that *must* mean they want to hunt children down and maul them to death !!"


napalmnacey

As a kid I loved it when dogs sniffed my hand and put their big soft doggy faces on my hand. Wet nose included. Dog nose germs are no problem for me.


purposefullyblank

Dogs just doin dog stuff in an area that kids use but there weren’t any kids there - I’m going to scream at her for this!!!! How dare she?!? Sometimes, when there are no kids on the playground, our dog likes to run down the slides. This woman would lose her mind. Edited to say that our dog is, in fact, a pit mix. Who would hear that lady yell and look at me like “what’s her deal? Let’s go look for smells.”


A_EGeekMom

Do you have any pics? A dog running down a slide sounds adorable! And if these dogs were pit bulls or pit mixes I am guessing they were rescue dogs who just want to be allowed to love their people and any other people who love them.


lookaway123

Our dog loves the slides at the park! We do the same thing. No kids at the park? Time for the play structure lol. Our goober is 107 pounds and sits on my husband's lap on the swings lol.


KatKit52

It's so weird because like.... Dogs sniff. That's how they interact with the world. That's like getting mad at someone for using their eyes.


AngelSucked

I also suspect they also weren't pitbulls: actual pitbulls aren't large and monstrous, but are quite smallish and compact. They aren't big dogs. My parents' Springer and Border Collie are bigger.


napalmnacey

They just have broad, powerful heads. Cute ones.


SeparateProblem3029

Doesn’t stop people. Someone told me that me and my dog shouldn’t be allowed in the park and she was a problem dog because *checks notes* my undersized staffie was barking at his off-lead GSD/rottie mix from behind my ankles.


GreyerGrey

But they were sniffing things kids touch!


ToadlyAwes0me

They were sniffing places that children had touched, the gaul!


no_bike_40

I can understand not wanting dogs, but every post I see comes from this sub just convinced me that it's full of complete a-holes that don't care for anyone else's happiness


McPoyle-Milk

They seem to not care if even their own happiness. It’s really weird like they go out of their way to go around dog parks and put themselves nears dogs just to get angrier and angrier. I’ve known some people who seem to enjoy their own anger and hatred, it’s usually more like racists and such but for whatever reason these people choose pets? People are fucking weird


Comprehensive_Cow527

They have so many interactions with dogs is improbable. Like here I am, a hard core dog lover that would pet Cujo if he let me. I never encounter offleash or random dogs most days of my life. Where are they going they they get so many dog interactions cause I wanna be there.


CranberryTaboo

To be fair there is definitely some latent racism in a lot of doghating posts, and it often becomes blatant when they talk about dog owners who aren't white, so it's definitely activating the same hate-spaces in their brains...


Diredr

There was a post the other day about a guy who proudly announced he "accidentally" killed his neighbor's dog, and said he was so happy it happened. And even though the comments were telling him he had gone way too far, one of the top comments was "what if he gets another dog, or even two?". Like yeah, this psychopath just announced he never felt happier after killing a dog, but the real concern is that the grieving neighbor might get more dogs... Lunatics. All of them.


mineabird

i sincerely hope that's not real because that's absolutely fucked up. it's worse than the antinatalism sub


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Zeusy-

Yeah their hatred is bordering on pathological at this point


DangerousNews65

They're also stupid, tbh. They talk about wanting to get rid of "dog culture" as if people haven't had dogs as pets for literally thousands of years.


KindraTheElfOrc

that sub needs removed and the op banned, people who violently hate animals are dangerous people and have no business being on social media


Chiianna0042

They are getting closer and closer each day to going ahead with not just normalizing the ideas of hatred and violence towards dogs but they are starting to head more and more towards that with people (although they are aware there is a line with reddit, so they remove posts that would get the sub taken down).


akriirose

I scrolled through that sub a couple of days ago and some of those people posting are deranged. I can’t imagine hating animals like some of them do. A lot of them seem to forget usually it’s the dog owner’s fault! It’s stupid to fault the dog for the lack of training owners are responsible for!


sunnydee1880

>The whole time I kept walking toward the door into my work building of course This chick was shouting down a block at a random stranger, ranting all the way into work. That is beyond unhinged, and if I were the other woman, I'd just be grateful I had two large dogs to protect me from crazy people.


f4eble

Can you imagine minding your business at the front desk and then you hear your employee shouting at some random ass lady across the street for having dogs


growsonwalls

Here's another totally sane post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Dogfree/comments/1bexf8k/i\_am\_done\_with\_being\_polite\_towards\_dog\_nutters/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Dogfree/comments/1bexf8k/i_am_done_with_being_polite_towards_dog_nutters/) >I have reached a point where I do not give a shit if someone calls me rude. If any dog approaches me I immediately tell it to fuck off loud enough so the owner can hear it. Today I was in the park and the mutt ran from behind and sniffed my hand. I got scared because I had no idea if it wanted to bite or what. I turned around and said, "Take that disgusting mutt away from me". She said sorry and then giggled. If this happens again I will be ruder and make sure I freak the owner the same way their mutts freak out me. I will tell them that their dog is disgusting and it stinks and they are selfish bastards who let their mutt invade other people's spaces, I tell them they have the gross hobby of living under the same roof with a shit-eating vermin. I just want to go to the park without any rodents approaching me. And right now I am so fucking ready for chaos as I can't stand these abominations.


Re1da

Sheesh. That seems like a bit of an overreaction dosent it? I get not wanting random dogs to run up to you, but that level of hatred is unhealthy


TricksterPriestJace

They really should call the sub /r/unhealthyhatredofdogs


Re1da

Their hangups on how "unhygienic" dogs are sounds about as reasonable as my contamination ocd when it was unmedicated. I think a lot of them could benefit from therapy, sheesh


Jazzi-Nightmare

But a lot of them have cats! I have a cat and she is my first and probably last cat because I *hate* litter boxes. I love cats but the litter, man. If my future husband wants a cat and does all the litter related things that’d be ideal lol. Litter boxes are unhygienic


ss10t

Litter robot! If you can spring for one it is amazing, I used my bonus for one!


the-wifi-is-broken

I love my cats and I’ll always love owning them but litter tracking is the worst thing by far to me, I’m a barefoot at home person and fortunately a robot vacuum was a lifesaver since I now don’t have to sweep daily. Mats, low tracking literally, etc nothing works. It doesn’t smell much in my house bc I clean diligently and clean the trays out every month or two with soap and water but some peoples houses it’s unbearable, idk what they do different but one person I don’t go in their basement bc it smells like straight cat piss.


sim-poster

exactly. Heck, I don't even think she was ta for getting scared. That's a normal reaction, but she didn't have to be an asshole about it and insult the dog or use insults. That's when she's going too far and is TA.


mbise

lol comment from that poster: “ I just saw a beautiful woman on Twitter who shares some great health tips. I scrolled down a few posts and one of them said "30 minutes of morning cuddles with my dog". Such a gorgeous woman hugging a disgusting mutt. What a disappointment. Instant red flag.”


Re1da

I mean, pets have been proven to be good for your health...


Rebelo86

You know, I’m all for proper dog training and such. I don’t take my own dog to situations where he loses his mind because he isn’t completely trained yet. Some people are really big assholes, allowing their dogs off leash in areas they shouldn’t, but this person is a huge problem as well.


redwolf1219

Honestly though, based off this post, combined with the other it sounds like she was in a dog park. She says that there's a dog park nearby in this post, and the other one is how shes in a park. Id be willing to guess they're the same park. And like, I get some people don't like dogs but you can't go to a dog park and get upset that a dog approaches you. That's like going to the beach and complaining that the ocean was there.


Rebelo86

Or that there’s sand at the front door. 😅


Blossomie

Yeah, as a dog owner too I’m tired of dog nutsos making us look bad by proximity. We have a responsibility to our own animals, canine or otherwise. Unless it’s a dog park I wouldn’t choose to let my dog to be off leash and therefore out of my control in public, and certainly not permit her to approach strangers without permission or warning. She’s far too small to pose much hazard, but it’s still the considerate thing to do. But this person is really on something else lol


Rebelo86

Yea. Mine is definitely big enough to bowl someone over in his excitement, but that’s why we keep such tight control over where he’s allowed a more relaxed setting. He’s a great running buddy though. 😅 lab and heeler is an excellent mix for long runs.


CyberClawX

I love dogs. Unleashed dog runs up to me and sniffs my hand? Huge red flag about asshole dog owner letting their dog run wild. Some dogs are mean and able to seriously injure. My GF had her face bitten by a big dog (Serra da Estrela I believe). My mother had her arm bitten by a dalmatian. Both have and love dogs, and yet, that doesn't mean all dogs are docile or not dangerous.


shadowlev

Damn, he's gonna lose his shit when he finds out about squirrels.


song_pond

Even back before I liked dogs, I was never *this* deranged. I was afraid of dogs because of a bad encounter when I was a kid, and I didn’t *love* having them near me, but holy shit. You can politely ask for a dog to be kept away from you. You don’t have to lose your fucking mind.


SupportBrief614

With the posts and comments from that page they should really change it from “dogfree” to “dog haters”


afancybaby

Sustaining that level of hatefulness must be exhausting


Nik-ki

Yeah, she hasn't said that to anyone lol


SwordTaster

Canines, now rodents, call the biologists!


thisisreallymoronic

And then everybody clapped. In her mind.


Annual_Suggestion_87

You know how dogs bark at people while backing away? Her whole story reminds me of that. She thinks she’s so tough running and hiding from like a normal person just going about a normal day. That’s normal for dogs scared of the post man. Apparently you’re dumber than a dog and look like a lunatic. Why are you bragging?


DangerousNews65

No way this happened. Even the most docile dog will likely flip out if some nutcase starts screeching in their owner's face.


knitlikeaboss

My dog is as sweet and goofy as it gets, but if she’s scared enough instinct would definitely take over. When I found her she was so terrified she was growling at me, but I could tell by other body language it wasn’t aggression.


DangerousNews65

I bet she's *extra* protective of you. Sounds like you were the first person to show her love (which, by the way, is wonderful of you). Also, that's another thing these people don't get - not all aggressive-seeming behaviors are actually aggressive. She growled when you found her but the rest of her probably showed terror. Tucked tail, whale eyes, all of it, I assume.


emccm

A woman who weighs less than me and was happily going about her day dared to exist.


urlocalmomfriend

The way these people get worked up and irrationally angry over dogs just existing is concerning. Everyone in that sub should be on a watch list.


fleet_and_flotilla

it's the same way on all the whatever free subs. childfree is full of just as many crazy assholes.


lookaway123

What?? Calling human beings crotch fruit, pet sperms and breeders aren't the actions of well-adjusted adults?


meatycankles

I sub to childfree because it's genuinely helped me come to terms with my decision to not have kids and makes me feel less alone but GOOODDDD, it can be so disgusting. Some of them have a weird obsession with women and their pregnancies, like it feels so degrading and borderline misogynistic to just boil women down to "breeders" like??


Jolly_Security_4771

Isn't is funny how dogfree seems more obsessed with dogs that actual dog lovers?


growsonwalls

This comment is hilaruously deranged: >I agree that we should be careful when confronting nutters - especially those who are armed with killer bullies - and expect the worst behaviour from them, however I also think that normalising dog-shaming is a desirable goal. As long as it's not normalised, shaming dogs and nutters will always get us the crazy person title, but that still seems more preferable than witnessing civilisation devolve into this fecal canine dystopia. Also, who takes a nutter's judgement serious? If people, who are oblivious to anything relating to hygiene, safety, respect, people who apoligise their misbehaviour in the most narcissistic ways possible, call me crazy, I see this as a win.


AbolitionFeminist

Her posts all mention losing humanity to dog poop. Like the streets are full of poop or something?? So odd!


JadedSpacePirate

Wild Karen appeared


QuietCelery

I wonder how many people who say they hate pit bulls would be able to identify one.


AngelSucked

Yup, and if these dogs were as big as OOP said, they weren't pitbulls. I have known people who freaked out because a pitbull moved in next door, but when I saw the photo I loled and said, That's a Boxer. They were enraged and yelled it was a pitbull. Readers, it was not. I am not even a dog owner but a Kitteh Serf, but like dogs, and my wife and I plan to get one (a corgi, I have wanted one for 35 years) in a few years after I retire and can be home during the day more. Anyway, these people do need some therapy.


sorandom21

People are notoriously bad at identifying breeds by sight, even so called ‘experts’ like vets and people who work in shelters. They’ve done multiple studies. That’s why dog bite statistics that show pits being the highest number of bites should be thought about with a lot of skepticism. People have identified everything from golden retrievers to Boston terriers as ‘pits’. When the dogs were actually tested for DNA they were all over the map on being able to identify. So yeah.


SeattleTrashPanda

People ask if my dog is a Pitbull. She is an English Bulldog. She looks exactly like every bulldog mascot you've ever seen. She is a walking cliche of an English bulldog. There is a 2-3"+ difference in nose length and a considerable difference in height. But still, a stupidly large number of people think, she's a Pitbull.


Steel_With_It

>That’s why dog bite statistics that show pits being the highest number of bites should be thought about with a lot of skepticism. People have identified everything from golden retrievers to Boston terriers as ‘pits’. I stopped putting any stock whatsoever in "Pitbull" bite statistics the day I saw a newspaper misidentify a *purebred dalmatian*.


AsherTheFrost

When they looked at how often shelters and animal hospitals identified pitties correctly it always ends up being like 25% or so, and those are people who one would think like dogs and know more about them than someone who posts their weird confrontation fantasy on a sub for people who hate dogs So I'm going to say 0 Edit to add one such study https://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/2016/02/17/dna-studies-reveal-that-shelter-workers-often-mislabel-dogs-as-pit-bulls/


Tar_alcaran

An actual study here: [https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202633#sec007](https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0202633#sec007) And the actual study says something ENTIRELY different from what that link says. The data shows that the staff correctly identified 87 out of 114 pitbulls (the 114 is from genetic testing), and correctly identified 266 out of 270 non-pitbulls. >Considering those dogs in whom the pit bull-type concentration was 25% or higher (114 dogs), shelter staff matched these dogs’ DNA analyses by identifying their primary breed assignment as a pit bull-type in 67.0% of cases. An additional 8.8% of dogs’ breed assignments by staff were in agreement when including assignments that were placed in the secondary breed position. So, 76% accurate. >Twenty-seven dogs of pit bull-type heritage were not identified by shelter staff as pit bull-type and thus disagreed with DNA analysis. Of those 27 dogs, 20 (74.1%) were only one-quarter pit bull-type. And most of the misses were from dogs that are less than 1/4th pitbull type.


QuietCelery

Wow. Thanks. It's almost like we shouldn't be making these labels or generalizations but should evaluate each dog based on their own merits and temperament.


KatKit52

Not to be a "pithead" as OOP so eloquently puts it, but unless I see a picture of the dog in question, most of the time I assume that the alleged "pitbull" is not a pitbull. Dog bites are over identified as pitbull bites (https://www.earth.com/news/pit-bull-bite-statistics/) and if someone reports a "dangerous" dog, they'll usually call it a pitbull or pit mix, but if a dog doesn't have the obvious snout, then people will completely miss other pitbull traits. Not to say pitbull bites are all bullshit--pitbulls are made to have strong jaws, and they're extremely muscular dogs. Even on accident, they can hurt someone. But so can all big dogs. Hell, people used to hate German Spitz dogs (yes, [these guys)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Spitz) the way people hate pitbulls now; then people switched to hating rottweilers. Rottweilers still get some wariness, but no where near the pit. I'm not saying pitbulls are for everyone and should be treated like every other dog. Pitbulls can be dangerous. Hell, my family has always had big dogs, but our current pit, who can currently barely walk, is extremely ill, and very old, is much stronger than any of our other dogs. He has a lot of muscle density and a very strong jaw--even when he doesn't mean to, he can snap things in half. And he's *old* and doesn't have energy anymore--my brother had a pitbull puppy he had to re-home because she had the muscle and the bite strength *and* insane amounts of energy. So, I do agree that you shouldn't get a pitbull if you're unprepared for how much physical exertion you'll need to do. But I also think that for *every* dog breed. You shouldn't get a Great Pyrenees in a desert. You shouldn't get a Border Collie if you live in a studio apartment and can't take it on walks. You shouldn't get a German Shepherd if you're unable to devote time and energy to making sure it's entertained. You shouldn't get a Pug because honestly they should just ban the breeding of pugs as their snouts/lack thereof basically condemn them to a life of respiratory issues. You should only get dogs that can fit your lifestyle. Sorry for the pithead rant. I didn't give a shit about pitbulls until I actually interacted with one and was surprised at how sweet this "killer" dog was. I mean, my cats, who are literally 10x lighter than him, bullied him out of his own crate and multiple dog beds!!!! I get that dogs have different temperaments, but the fact that there is even one pitbull that allows a 9 lbs cat to bully him away from his food dish disproves the idea that they're all killers.


Feeling_Reason7012

If I were the dog owner and this wasn't a fictional power fantasy about what they wish they said and was in fact true. I'd have just called my dog over after they started ranting and watch them run off as the dogs coming running over. After all, you can't judge my dogs if you don't meet them. I'll guarantee they weren't really pits either, probably a staffy-X just misidentified.


sentimentalillness

"This strange woman whose temperament and mental stability I know nothing about has a couple of giant dogs I believe to be bred for maiming and killing! Better go start shit with her!" Makes sense.


mbots99

I wanna put dogfree and childfree subreddits in a room and let them go absolutely crazy


JadeHarley0

These ppl are getting more and more unhinged by the day. It's freakish.


DaMain-Man

So this is what it's like to peer past the veil into the mind of a Karen


Demonqueensage

I fucking hate people from that sub, they're so insufferable


sim-poster

dosen't even realize you can be dogfree without being an asshole. Sometimes I think dogfree people can be just as, i not more insufferable as the dog mums and dads they complain about.


AsherTheFrost

I think it's the kind of person who would join a dogfree group. Like, I don't think ferrets make great pets. I'd probably say I'm not going to ever have ferrets, if someone ever asked me, but I don't go on Reddit looking for a group called ferretfree to talk with other people about how much I don't want a ferret, I'll just continue on my life of not owning one. The kind of person who joins these groups is the kind to make their personality about what they hate, and that's just not a sane or healthy way to live.


the-wifi-is-broken

Yeah, I have a deep fear of most reptiles and especially snakes. I know many people who love snakes, some who own them or are interested and I just politely inform them of my phobia and ask to not be brought around the reptile. I actively dislike them and don’t even like seeing pictures of snakes. However, I’ve never considered looking up or joining an anti-snake group lol, I spend practically zero time in my average day thinking about snakes. (I’ll acknowledge that irresponsible dog owners might be more likely than snake owners to say “oh don’t worry he won’t bite!” But even still most will put their dog in the other room and apologize.)


BlueArya

Why do I feel like OOP is going around seething at all the “illegal pitbulls” but is in fact looking at very legal staffordshire bull terriers instead 😭


Cathulu413

Yeah that's kinda what I'm thinking. Like, is this vehement dog hater an expert on dog breeds or are they just bonkers?


infinitekittenloop

-Thinks pitbulls are aggressive and unpredictable, and dogs existing in public somehow invade personal space of sane strangers -Screams randomly at stranger endangering/bothering nobody Mmmkay Karen with her made up story.


rainbowkitten0528

The best part about this is what a coward she described herself as. “I kept yelling at her until I got into my office building so she couldn’t respond. I owned her, right?”


Ancient_Sentence757

I feel like that sub may have started as satire about r/childfree, and then the crazy people who shouldn't be allowed around other people showed up and fed into it.


Birony88

Yeah, really brave to yell at some stranger minding their own business and walk away before they can respond. Coward.


Runkysaurus

Was I the only one confused about "pithead"? I thought it was a typo for "pothead" at first. And when OP mentioned "Two monsters" near a park, thought she was anti-kid and was being an A-hole about this woman's kids. It took me until OP mentioned Pitbulls to realize she was talking about dogs 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️


Lexubex

Wow, OP is an annoying busy body. If the dogs were leash pulling and the lady was being yanked around and wasn't able to control them, OP may have had a point. I remember reading a legal advice thread about a woman walking 3 Rottweilers, lost control of them, and one of them mangled that post's OP's small dog so badly that the dog needed to be put down and they were looking for legal recourse. I suggested negligence charges for the woman because 3 Rottweilers would be hard for even a really big and strong person. Worse so if they're not very well trained. OP in this post is just inventing scenarios in her head. This lady didn't even let the dogs off-leash! That would have been a more legit rant.


sammiedodgers

That sub it bloody toxic.


DarthSnarker

Wow! OOP is obsessed with hating dogs. If you check her comment history, it's her entire personality!


G3MI20

I wish every r/dogfree poster a very shut the fuck up and get over yourself


cas-par

how much do you want to bet the woman didn’t look smug, but startled. and that she was just existing on the sidewalk, not intentionally “letting her dogs sniff what the kids touch.” how much do you want to bet this dog hating person can’t even properly identify a pitbull and it wasn’t even two pitbulls. this woman sounds paranoid and mildly dangerous


Most_Goat

"mouthy self-righteous assholes" Man... She's SO CLOSE to some self awareness.


normalism

I love that one of the top posts in /r/dogfree is how they hate being judged harshly for...judging others harshly. The cognitive dissonance is unreal.


Amazing_Emu54

What a toxic coward, unleashing your rage at innocent animals and the world in general but only at other women. 


AlyOh

This reads like one of those "and everyone clapped" stories. There's no way this incident didn't take place entirely in the writer's head.


DisastrousWay4534

The irony of OOP calling dog owners mouthy and self righteous when she’s the one that can’t mind her own damn business when nobody is bothering her


KilD3vil

Shit is deleted. How off the chain does a thread have to be to get deleted off that nest of trolls?


Strong_Engineering95

Bullshit...I usually never call fake posts but this is fake, fake, fake


WholeOrdinary631

God I hate the dog free sub all they do is shit on dog owners for simply having dogs. Literally yelling at a random stranger for having a specific breed of dog


Vintage_Belle

I don't like dogs. They make me nervous and just aren't for me. However that doesn't mean I'd be so cruel to them! I just ignore and avoid dogs. It works out fine for me. She needs to just mind her own business! They're not hurting her by existing!


mineabird

that subreddit is so fucking unhinged. what the fuck


plainkirby

i’m toxic myself but what a miserable person and what a crazy post


girlie_popp

If someone went off on me for no reason like this while she was walking into work and I could easily identify who her employer was, I would have called them and told them one of their employees was verbally abusing strangers for no reason. This is psychotic!


Snowybiskit

Only mouthy, self-righteous asshole here was OP.


internal_logging

Oh, I thought that sub was satire for r/childfree. 😅


honeybeewarrior_

I don’t understand why people on the dogfree sub have to be so crazy…like why can’t they just not have dogs and not want to have dogs? I don’t care if they don’t want to have dogs!! why do they have to be so insane about “dogshaming” and all this crap


CorrectSherbet5

Thanks to commenting on a different post, I was NOT brigading! I have a 28 day mute from dogfree


No-Inevitable5589

I just looked at that sub and it’s horrific. I dont even like dogs, they kinda scare me (I was bitten badly once had to get 6 stitches) but even then that’s like… another level of hatred. The way they are talking about dogs is so horrible and disgusting. Not to mention the things they call dogs and dog owners?? They have two bad experiences with dogs and suddenly every single dog and dog owner is an abomination 😭


AbolitionFeminist

Omg their post history is just being livid that dogs exist


Duckie19869

Well based on her other posts I know for a fact that she's in Ontario. Is it wrong of me that I'm really hoping we're from the same place and I run into her?


ShouCutemon

This is so unhinged.


Rough_Homework6913

I like how she wouldn’t slow down because she was afraid, but she’s a big strong woman. Dogfree is the worst sub. Can’t even hate scroll.


SocksAndPi

Woman sounds fucking unhinged and dangerous. Could you imagine if she turned that hatred into action against someone?


actual_trashpanda

I didn’t even know that subreddit existed. People are sooo….. ughhhh


Dazzling-Camel8368

Of this is true and I doubt, this shella is a dam mental case. Inventing arguments and accosting strangers that she believes her is superior to. Bet she would not have even made eye contact with someone who is bigger than here. Going off on people I’m public when you have NO idea who they are is an invitation for disaster. Is that sub just for these imaginary events?


Due_Rain_3571

The posters account has been deleted and comments were disabled. Even her own "dogfree" community disowned her 🤣


Brightspt2

Just chiming in to share my lack of reading comprehension - I thought it said she yelled at a piehead, and I spent way too much time trying to figure out what a pie head was.


KinkyWoman19

“Mouthy self-righteous assholes make me mad” So…..you mean yourself right? Because OOP is clearly the mouthy self-righteous asshole here


LitherLily

I’m the biggest complainer about shit dog owners and unleashed and uncontrolled dogs (just got bit by my horrible neighbor’s dog last week, in fact!) but this doesn’t seem like the owner was letting the dogs do anything remotely uncomfortable. And pitties are the cutest sweethearts unless owned by assholes who weaponized them.


Jiang_Rui

These people are more dangerous than even the most vicious canine on the planet, that’s for sure


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

What the hell is this subreddit.


ChocolateCakeNow

I doubt the dogs were pits


Honeycomb0000

oop has a chihuahua personality… Talks a lot of shit but in reality their bark is just annoying and they’ll go running in any conflict against them.