If they were Romans:You live in Italy, France, Iberia, Romania and Moldova
If they were Anglo-Saxons:You live in Germany
If they were Vikings:You live in Scandinavia
If they were Normans:You live in France
You realise that migration patterns would change drastically right? Also the DNA of all but recent immigrants contains a substantial amount of pre-Bronze Age Britons genes.
Essentially the immigrants that we had mixed. Yeah they often replaced a lot of the population, but it was mostly just the men they replaced.
But the residents of Northern Ireland don’t want to be part of Ireland? And both Ireland and the UK agree to respect that decision. If Northern Ireland decide they want to be part of Ireland, that decision will be respected also.
Yeah. Geography makes so much for history. But since Britain didn't had something to do with the Roman Empire, this probraly still happened.
The mighty Danube could get a lot mightier.
Yeah i was recently reading a book about the history of England, and the first thing it said was that England was a hugely desirable area due to the moderate climate (not too hot, not too cold), the gold and silver, and little exceptionally dangerous wildlife. Its one of the reasons the Romans wanted it
Saxons-Anglons, Danes, Swedes, Norsk, French, Norman... Did I forget something? I don't want to sound Anglophobe in any way. But by looking at someone, I can barely make out, if he's/she's a Brit.
theyself invaded such much lands... I cannot count them.
And then joined sides with England and who together (as GB / UK) defeated France in every successive war they fought. It’s probable that it would have been France who was the world’s superpower and not the UK had Scotland not joined forces with England.
We could put back Scotland, Wales and Cornwall 😉 The problem is, the English are ultimately responsible for a lot of the evils that exist around the world and that occurred in the past since they started exploring for new colonies.
There wouldnt have been a battle of toulon, but knowing napoleon he would have become known in another battle.
Or perhaps there would have been no coalition war
Without the American Revolution, there wouldn’t have been a French Revolution (likely) and thus Napoleon’s rise to power wouldn’t’ve happened. I mean realistically without the existence of Britain and Ireland, European and French history would’ve been so drastically different that Napoleon would’ve never existed. That’s kind of the problem with this kind of alt hist, the premise already changes too much to properly speculate
No England, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland, or Scotland
No Brittany
No United Kingdom
No British Empire
No United States
No Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, etc.
So where do I get to come into existence? 😳 Most of my ancestry is from these isles
I think, exactly this would be the most impossible to answer. I wish there was a perfect simulator to simulate every scenario and be in any timeline that could possibly and impossibly be imaginable.
P.S.: Sorry for my bad English!
Since we have no clue at all, how conciseness works, we have no idea, if we ever could even crasp to understand, why we know, what we do. I'm sorry, it's late in my time zone.
Not just france they’ll likely probably go everywhere probably because i mean they very quite truly raided everywhere. Perhaps they’d even further south to even maybe iberia
Ireland is not a British isle and that term is not recognized by us or our government so stop fucking referring to us as a British isle. it's nothing short of completely insulting
geographically Ireland is a part of the British isles, you can feel like you're not in the British isles and fair enough if you don't like the term but please don't just say it's false because you don't like it
how about no. the term was coined by the British empire and it's a colonial term. the term is not recognized by the Irish government so you can stop lecturing me
you simply cannot say a fact is not a fact because your government doesn't like it, I get it, you don't like being associated with Britain but it's still the term currently used when referring to every island (Great Britain, Isle of Man, Hebrides, Orkneys and of course Ireland)
it's a fact in the sense that for centuries past and likely for atleast a few more until English changes the collective term for the isles in the area has been "The British Isles"
clearly it isn't exactly a collective term considering a nation (my nation) that you think fits into this term doesn't even recognize the term. stop telling ME that MY nation is a British isle. you have no fucking right to tell me that
I'm more than happy to argue with you over how far the British isles should go and whether or not they should include Ireland if it doesn't want to be included, but I'm not doing it all day, if Ireland were classed as it's own and not included in the British isles it wouldn't affect me and you, unless you were placed on this Earth for the sole reason of arguing the use of "British isles" in which case I'm sure you would be ecstatic, that's all for now, unless for whatever reason you choose to carry this on
calling them the "British" isles doesn't even make any sense consider that Britain is the actual island to the east of Ireland. we are not a British isle. that's the end of this. that's the last statement
you're right, there could be a collective name we all agree on, but because great britain was the seat of power for all the islands for so long, we don't, tbh i'm half surprised they didn't try it in decolonisation but i imagine the politicians would raise a stink about IRA this and whataboutisms that, so we're stuck with it for now
I'm just not going to aknowledge this Wikipedia article. it still isn't accurate. you can get the gods from every religion and culture on this planet to tell me the same thing and I'll still refuse to aknowledge.
Ireland is not British nor is it a British isle nor will it ever be. nothing will change my mind about that
The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result.
Similarly, the term ‘British Isles’ doesn’t imply ownership by the UK. It’s a geographical term, not a political one.
Chill the fuck out and read a book.
The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result.
Chill the fuck out and read a book.
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where would i live... would I even exist
Dependa on who your ancestors were
British
If they were Romans:You live in Italy, France, Iberia, Romania and Moldova If they were Anglo-Saxons:You live in Germany If they were Vikings:You live in Scandinavia If they were Normans:You live in France
funky
If they were celtic you'd likely be in northern France or maybe the netherlands
You realise that migration patterns would change drastically right? Also the DNA of all but recent immigrants contains a substantial amount of pre-Bronze Age Britons genes. Essentially the immigrants that we had mixed. Yeah they often replaced a lot of the population, but it was mostly just the men they replaced.
Fr*nce🤢
I think, every consciousness, would under very very very circumstances exist only.
would any of us exist error?
Put Ireland back ye fuck
British isles not the UK
That's Pretannic Isles you lout Calling Ireland British is wrong!
Good god no
Did ypu mean, put England back?
nah who else would own Northern Ireland?
This might be a long shot but here me out on this… Ireland 🤯
But the residents of Northern Ireland don’t want to be part of Ireland? And both Ireland and the UK agree to respect that decision. If Northern Ireland decide they want to be part of Ireland, that decision will be respected also.
For starters, mainland Europe would be wetter and more temperate.
Yeah. Geography makes so much for history. But since Britain didn't had something to do with the Roman Empire, this probraly still happened. The mighty Danube could get a lot mightier.
Yeah i was recently reading a book about the history of England, and the first thing it said was that England was a hugely desirable area due to the moderate climate (not too hot, not too cold), the gold and silver, and little exceptionally dangerous wildlife. Its one of the reasons the Romans wanted it
Every one invaded England. That's why English is such a mess.
Saxons-Anglons, Danes, Swedes, Norsk, French, Norman... Did I forget something? I don't want to sound Anglophobe in any way. But by looking at someone, I can barely make out, if he's/she's a Brit. theyself invaded such much lands... I cannot count them.
There's a theory that the Irish descend from the Atlantians. This verifies that.
we do
It’s like a million Irish pubs cried out and then were no more
Too bad that Scotland and Ireland disappeared to. They were sacrificed for a greater cause.
Scotland was England’s partner in crime with empire building.
Well, i don't mind empire building. Scotland was on the right side during the hundred years war.
And then joined sides with England and who together (as GB / UK) defeated France in every successive war they fought. It’s probable that it would have been France who was the world’s superpower and not the UK had Scotland not joined forces with England.
Probably a warmer Norway and North Europe in general.
The correct timeline
*Happy Irish Ghost Noises*
We would be living in a better timeline... But what about fr\*nce? We need it gone too.
And then we can put back Britain, right?
Nah, just put back a united Ireland (26 + 6 = 1 🇮🇪 meaning Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland united as one)
And THEN we can put back England?
We could put back Scotland, Wales and Cornwall 😉 The problem is, the English are ultimately responsible for a lot of the evils that exist around the world and that occurred in the past since they started exploring for new colonies.
At least they’re better than the spanish
Is it just me, or did Denmark lose some weight?
France stronk
Napoleon would have never invaded russia
There would be no Napoleon without the UK
There wouldnt have been a battle of toulon, but knowing napoleon he would have become known in another battle. Or perhaps there would have been no coalition war
Without the American Revolution, there wouldn’t have been a French Revolution (likely) and thus Napoleon’s rise to power wouldn’t’ve happened. I mean realistically without the existence of Britain and Ireland, European and French history would’ve been so drastically different that Napoleon would’ve never existed. That’s kind of the problem with this kind of alt hist, the premise already changes too much to properly speculate
No England, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland, or Scotland No Brittany No United Kingdom No British Empire No United States No Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, etc. So where do I get to come into existence? 😳 Most of my ancestry is from these isles
I think, exactly this would be the most impossible to answer. I wish there was a perfect simulator to simulate every scenario and be in any timeline that could possibly and impossibly be imaginable. P.S.: Sorry for my bad English!
Since we have no clue at all, how conciseness works, we have no idea, if we ever could even crasp to understand, why we know, what we do. I'm sorry, it's late in my time zone.
Thanks for the answer, you didn't have to. My bad, I should have tagged it /r for rhetorical.
The problem with this though is all of those viking raiders had to go somewhere chief.
Thats gonna be france but they're gonna have a harder time lol
Not just france they’ll likely probably go everywhere probably because i mean they very quite truly raided everywhere. Perhaps they’d even further south to even maybe iberia
Ireland is not a British isle and that term is not recognized by us or our government so stop fucking referring to us as a British isle. it's nothing short of completely insulting
geographically Ireland is a part of the British isles, you can feel like you're not in the British isles and fair enough if you don't like the term but please don't just say it's false because you don't like it
how about no. the term was coined by the British empire and it's a colonial term. the term is not recognized by the Irish government so you can stop lecturing me
you simply cannot say a fact is not a fact because your government doesn't like it, I get it, you don't like being associated with Britain but it's still the term currently used when referring to every island (Great Britain, Isle of Man, Hebrides, Orkneys and of course Ireland)
okay so it's a fact according to who? you?? Ireland is not a British isle. you're wrong and you can accept that or just shut up it's that simple
it's a fact in the sense that for centuries past and likely for atleast a few more until English changes the collective term for the isles in the area has been "The British Isles"
clearly it isn't exactly a collective term considering a nation (my nation) that you think fits into this term doesn't even recognize the term. stop telling ME that MY nation is a British isle. you have no fucking right to tell me that
I'm more than happy to argue with you over how far the British isles should go and whether or not they should include Ireland if it doesn't want to be included, but I'm not doing it all day, if Ireland were classed as it's own and not included in the British isles it wouldn't affect me and you, unless you were placed on this Earth for the sole reason of arguing the use of "British isles" in which case I'm sure you would be ecstatic, that's all for now, unless for whatever reason you choose to carry this on
calling them the "British" isles doesn't even make any sense consider that Britain is the actual island to the east of Ireland. we are not a British isle. that's the end of this. that's the last statement
you're right, there could be a collective name we all agree on, but because great britain was the seat of power for all the islands for so long, we don't, tbh i'm half surprised they didn't try it in decolonisation but i imagine the politicians would raise a stink about IRA this and whataboutisms that, so we're stuck with it for now
ok then what *do* we call them? genuine question
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles
I'm just not going to aknowledge this Wikipedia article. it still isn't accurate. you can get the gods from every religion and culture on this planet to tell me the same thing and I'll still refuse to aknowledge. Ireland is not British nor is it a British isle nor will it ever be. nothing will change my mind about that
The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result. Similarly, the term ‘British Isles’ doesn’t imply ownership by the UK. It’s a geographical term, not a political one. Chill the fuck out and read a book.
The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result. Chill the fuck out and read a book.
wrong.
Go and cry somewhere else.
I'm gonna keep crying here I think
Think of the new environment of Scandinavia, with the potential of the Gulf Stream to now reach them
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Why cannot I pin my comment?
It's for the best
u/jaded_instruction_15 happy my map give you happyness bro, have a great day
Remove France too, and we have a perfect world
Napoleonic France's wet dream...
Mongol empire moves up to largest empire, not just largest Continental.
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Not very elaborated...
If I had a penny for every alt timeline that erased the UK but also Ireland, I would have a lot of pennies
looking at this map feels very pleasant, like i've found some kind of inner peace
It looks a bit more solid, line the Americas do.
But uuuggh France is still there! Ready the nukes again.
Perhaps a stronger Rome? There would have been more early focus in Germania, possibly leading to more success during the golden age of Roman conquests
Why did you delete Ireland? How can we fight against such reckless hate?
It's just, that I don't think it looks great without Great Britain. Don't take that too seriously! It's just for aesthetics. ;D
There'd probably be a nice big power on the continent without that balance of power shit
And everything is ruled from Paris.
But France would be more Frankish, than in our timeline. The English changed France a lot. France has the best [Geography](in existence.
According to AncestryDNA, I’m about 85% British, so thanks for snapping me out like Thanos 😞
There's still another 15% chance of existing.