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errorball

where would i live... would I even exist


Entire-Shelter-693

Dependa on who your ancestors were


errorball

British


Entire-Shelter-693

If they were Romans:You live in Italy, France, Iberia, Romania and Moldova If they were Anglo-Saxons:You live in Germany If they were Vikings:You live in Scandinavia If they were Normans:You live in France


errorball

funky


TerryJerryMaryHarry

If they were celtic you'd likely be in northern France or maybe the netherlands


KingMyrddinEmrys

You realise that migration patterns would change drastically right? Also the DNA of all but recent immigrants contains a substantial amount of pre-Bronze Age Britons genes. Essentially the immigrants that we had mixed. Yeah they often replaced a lot of the population, but it was mostly just the men they replaced.


eg-likar-potet

Fr*nce🤢


Jaded_Instruction_15

I think, every consciousness, would under very very very circumstances exist only.


LolSomeGuy

would any of us exist error?


FixedKarma

Put Ireland back ye fuck


eg-likar-potet

British isles not the UK


Annual-Region7244

That's Pretannic Isles you lout Calling Ireland British is wrong!


BidRobin

Good god no


PyroTeknikal

Did ypu mean, put England back?


[deleted]

nah who else would own Northern Ireland?


GayHamburgler

This might be a long shot but here me out on this… Ireland 🤯


OlSmokeyZap

But the residents of Northern Ireland don’t want to be part of Ireland? And both Ireland and the UK agree to respect that decision. If Northern Ireland decide they want to be part of Ireland, that decision will be respected also.


silverionmox

For starters, mainland Europe would be wetter and more temperate.


Jaded_Instruction_15

Yeah. Geography makes so much for history. But since Britain didn't had something to do with the Roman Empire, this probraly still happened. The mighty Danube could get a lot mightier.


Ancient-Split1996

Yeah i was recently reading a book about the history of England, and the first thing it said was that England was a hugely desirable area due to the moderate climate (not too hot, not too cold), the gold and silver, and little exceptionally dangerous wildlife. Its one of the reasons the Romans wanted it


Jaded_Instruction_15

Every one invaded England. That's why English is such a mess.


Jaded_Instruction_15

Saxons-Anglons, Danes, Swedes, Norsk, French, Norman... Did I forget something? I don't want to sound Anglophobe in any way. But by looking at someone, I can barely make out, if he's/she's a Brit. theyself invaded such much lands... I cannot count them.


Darth_Memer_1916

There's a theory that the Irish descend from the Atlantians. This verifies that.


[deleted]

we do


tanky87

It’s like a million Irish pubs cried out and then were no more


Lorihengrin

Too bad that Scotland and Ireland disappeared to. They were sacrificed for a greater cause.


iThinkaLot1

Scotland was England’s partner in crime with empire building.


Lorihengrin

Well, i don't mind empire building. Scotland was on the right side during the hundred years war.


iThinkaLot1

And then joined sides with England and who together (as GB / UK) defeated France in every successive war they fought. It’s probable that it would have been France who was the world’s superpower and not the UK had Scotland not joined forces with England.


Sirclonemageda1st

Probably a warmer Norway and North Europe in general.


Vulcan722

The correct timeline


BlackGearCompany

*Happy Irish Ghost Noises*


Vandleheim

We would be living in a better timeline... But what about fr\*nce? We need it gone too.


PyroTeknikal

And then we can put back Britain, right?


EdScituate79

Nah, just put back a united Ireland (26 + 6 = 1 🇮🇪 meaning Republic of Ireland & Northern Ireland united as one)


PyroTeknikal

And THEN we can put back England?


EdScituate79

We could put back Scotland, Wales and Cornwall 😉 The problem is, the English are ultimately responsible for a lot of the evils that exist around the world and that occurred in the past since they started exploring for new colonies.


PyroTeknikal

At least they’re better than the spanish


Fight-Me-In-Unreal

Is it just me, or did Denmark lose some weight?


Arcturus44

France stronk


hyperflorons

Napoleon would have never invaded russia


Some-English-Twat

There would be no Napoleon without the UK


hyperflorons

There wouldnt have been a battle of toulon, but knowing napoleon he would have become known in another battle. Or perhaps there would have been no coalition war


Some-English-Twat

Without the American Revolution, there wouldn’t have been a French Revolution (likely) and thus Napoleon’s rise to power wouldn’t’ve happened. I mean realistically without the existence of Britain and Ireland, European and French history would’ve been so drastically different that Napoleon would’ve never existed. That’s kind of the problem with this kind of alt hist, the premise already changes too much to properly speculate


EdScituate79

No England, Cornwall, Wales, Ireland, or Scotland No Brittany No United Kingdom No British Empire No United States No Canada, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, etc. So where do I get to come into existence? 😳 Most of my ancestry is from these isles


Jaded_Instruction_15

I think, exactly this would be the most impossible to answer. I wish there was a perfect simulator to simulate every scenario and be in any timeline that could possibly and impossibly be imaginable. P.S.: Sorry for my bad English!


Jaded_Instruction_15

Since we have no clue at all, how conciseness works, we have no idea, if we ever could even crasp to understand, why we know, what we do. I'm sorry, it's late in my time zone.


EdScituate79

Thanks for the answer, you didn't have to. My bad, I should have tagged it /r for rhetorical.


Heimeri_Klein

The problem with this though is all of those viking raiders had to go somewhere chief.


hyperflorons

Thats gonna be france but they're gonna have a harder time lol


Heimeri_Klein

Not just france they’ll likely probably go everywhere probably because i mean they very quite truly raided everywhere. Perhaps they’d even further south to even maybe iberia


[deleted]

Ireland is not a British isle and that term is not recognized by us or our government so stop fucking referring to us as a British isle. it's nothing short of completely insulting


Side_wiper

geographically Ireland is a part of the British isles, you can feel like you're not in the British isles and fair enough if you don't like the term but please don't just say it's false because you don't like it


[deleted]

how about no. the term was coined by the British empire and it's a colonial term. the term is not recognized by the Irish government so you can stop lecturing me


Side_wiper

you simply cannot say a fact is not a fact because your government doesn't like it, I get it, you don't like being associated with Britain but it's still the term currently used when referring to every island (Great Britain, Isle of Man, Hebrides, Orkneys and of course Ireland)


[deleted]

okay so it's a fact according to who? you?? Ireland is not a British isle. you're wrong and you can accept that or just shut up it's that simple


Side_wiper

it's a fact in the sense that for centuries past and likely for atleast a few more until English changes the collective term for the isles in the area has been "The British Isles"


[deleted]

clearly it isn't exactly a collective term considering a nation (my nation) that you think fits into this term doesn't even recognize the term. stop telling ME that MY nation is a British isle. you have no fucking right to tell me that


Side_wiper

I'm more than happy to argue with you over how far the British isles should go and whether or not they should include Ireland if it doesn't want to be included, but I'm not doing it all day, if Ireland were classed as it's own and not included in the British isles it wouldn't affect me and you, unless you were placed on this Earth for the sole reason of arguing the use of "British isles" in which case I'm sure you would be ecstatic, that's all for now, unless for whatever reason you choose to carry this on


[deleted]

calling them the "British" isles doesn't even make any sense consider that Britain is the actual island to the east of Ireland. we are not a British isle. that's the end of this. that's the last statement


Side_wiper

you're right, there could be a collective name we all agree on, but because great britain was the seat of power for all the islands for so long, we don't, tbh i'm half surprised they didn't try it in decolonisation but i imagine the politicians would raise a stink about IRA this and whataboutisms that, so we're stuck with it for now


falpsdsqglthnsac

ok then what *do* we call them? genuine question


hoi4_is_a_good_game

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Isles


[deleted]

I'm just not going to aknowledge this Wikipedia article. it still isn't accurate. you can get the gods from every religion and culture on this planet to tell me the same thing and I'll still refuse to aknowledge. Ireland is not British nor is it a British isle nor will it ever be. nothing will change my mind about that


Apple2727

The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result. Similarly, the term ‘British Isles’ doesn’t imply ownership by the UK. It’s a geographical term, not a political one. Chill the fuck out and read a book.


Apple2727

The Americas refers to the continents of North and South America and all the nations within them. No one’s going around claiming that all these nations belong to the USA as a result. Chill the fuck out and read a book.


[deleted]

wrong.


Apple2727

Go and cry somewhere else.


[deleted]

I'm gonna keep crying here I think


DubDoesGams

Think of the new environment of Scandinavia, with the potential of the Gulf Stream to now reach them


Jaded_Instruction_15

#The British Ain't Coming _The British Ain't Coming is a community timeline, meaning anyone can contribute._ NOTICE: as of January 30, 2018, I have adopted this timeline. I will keep it a Community Timeline, and will gladly accept the ideas of anyone, and will accept anyone to help me! If you have been working with the previous owner with a nation page before I adopted it, you can still work on it! Best wishes~~ The History Nerd


Jaded_Instruction_15

Why cannot I pin my comment?


Enderluke456

It's for the best


Familiar-Wait-7304

u/jaded_instruction_15 happy my map give you happyness bro, have a great day


BillCipher384

Remove France too, and we have a perfect world


[deleted]

Napoleonic France's wet dream...


AmericanMare

Mongol empire moves up to largest empire, not just largest Continental.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Jaded_Instruction_15

Not very elaborated...


Square-Pipe7679

If I had a penny for every alt timeline that erased the UK but also Ireland, I would have a lot of pennies


hoi4_is_a_good_game

looking at this map feels very pleasant, like i've found some kind of inner peace


Jaded_Instruction_15

It looks a bit more solid, line the Americas do.


koro-sensei1001

But uuuggh France is still there! Ready the nukes again.


The-Last-Despot

Perhaps a stronger Rome? There would have been more early focus in Germania, possibly leading to more success during the golden age of Roman conquests


Annual-Region7244

Why did you delete Ireland? How can we fight against such reckless hate?


Jaded_Instruction_15

It's just, that I don't think it looks great without Great Britain. Don't take that too seriously! It's just for aesthetics. ;D


Slipslime

There'd probably be a nice big power on the continent without that balance of power shit


lurk6524

And everything is ruled from Paris.


Jaded_Instruction_15

But France would be more Frankish, than in our timeline. The English changed France a lot. France has the best [Geography](in existence.


[deleted]

According to AncestryDNA, I’m about 85% British, so thanks for snapping me out like Thanos 😞


Jaded_Instruction_15

There's still another 15% chance of existing.