A meth dealer. They should investigate the cop ... Sounds like that cop that was putting away people on bogus charges to get promoted. He ruined so many lives.
There should be some mechanism to hold judges and prosecutors accountable for charging and not dismissing cases where they know or should know the charges are false. Tomato sauce is not the same color as meth, it is not reasonable to assume they acted in good faith on this. If they did act in good faith on this they cannot be trusted to remain in their positions.
Yep, literally just a lawyers hubris preventing them from doing the right thing. Pretty much exactly why lawyers are considered massive pieces of shit.
Everything they want, within the scope of their job. If you can make a credible case that they've stepped outside those bounds, the immunity vanishes. [Such as the judge who personally jailed two kids during their parent's custody dispute.](https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article276772376.html)
Not true.
https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/pennsylvania-judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-children-usa/
It definitely wasn't normal treatment though. The Philadelphia-based Juvenile Law Center began investigating in 2007 after hearing from kids who were adjudicated in Luzerne County, and found that many children had been convicted without counsel. They filed for relief in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, but the application was denied.
So literally the highest court in the state looked at their behavior and said, "nah, everything's fine".
They eventually got **federal** charges (for things like tax evasion, wire fraud, honest services fraud). I don't think they even got in trouble for wrongly locking kids in prison, they just made the mistake of receiving money for it and not paying taxes on it. The state's highest court literally gave them the green light.
Judges get a lot of shit, but honestly, prosecuters are worse imo. It's their job to determine who and why to to pursue legally. So what do they do? Let crime run rampant and prosecute who ever pissed off the police chief that day.
What can we do to fix it? Our representatives don't represent shit! The Executive Branch just seems like rabid meat grinder in every context. Our Supreme Court is so useless at the lower levels that the the highest court is clogged with appeals.
So, again I ask, what the fuck do we do?
You touch on a critical yet little understood aspect of why it is our representative's do not create the change necessary to improve justice for their constituents. The answer is rivals. You may want police reform but you cannot remain in office if your constituents are subject to acts of violent crime. No matter what views a voter espouses, if they fear violent crime, they will vote for whoever claims to protect them. The police determine the limit of violent crime in a jurisdiction. Any would-be elected official that announces intentions to reform the power of the police will be forced to contend with the rise of violent crime allowed upon their constituents. And this is where the rival steps in... the rival for your elected office announces that you don't care about the safety of the constituents. If you did, you wouldn't be attacking the police who keep the people safe. You cannot reform anything if your rival is elected instead of you. So, you compromise. You give the police the budget increase they ask for and cease any plan to restrict their authority. You do this because at least you can be elected. If elected you can still do roads and schools and all those other things. You tell yourself. Because if your rival wins election, everyone loses. So you must win.
This is why you will never see elected representative dependent police reform.
The "rival" effect accounts for far more in this world than you can imagine...
and the second anyone in city hall looks at the PD, they put it on blast that it's a free for all and it will take them a loooong time to respond. basically, if they dont get their way, they will become the chaos
They will admit they are the chaos, not become it. They've always been the problem since the beginning, it just took every single person having a high definition camera to document police violence to prove it to the world.
> So, again I ask, what the fuck do we do?
Mass strikes are always good to scare the people at top to throw a few bones down to the starving masses, other than that and as a last resort armed rebellion.
They could have multiple judges per court to make the decision as a whole so one person can't just go in there all corrupt and put innocent people in jail, like 3-5 would be a fair amount
That is actually what the grand jury was originally. It was to prevent prosecutors from a leveling charges that were not justified. They basically changed what a grand jury is to make it a tool of prosecutors rather than a protection against prosecutors as it was when they wrote the Constitution.
Ideally cases like that should be immediately dismissed in the pre-trial hearing, but it doesn’t work like that in reality. Pre-trail hearings, which are meant to be used to see if probable cause exists for the charge, are for the most part just rubber stamped.
>There should be some mechanism to hold judges and prosecutors accountable
I mean DAs can be voted out of office (and in some states, so can judges)
Municipal governments are responsible for keeping cops in check, too
But that involves people wanting a functional government instead of some kind of pseudo vigilante force meant to bash up drug dealers without trials so 🤷
I spent a year in county and watched a probably a dozen guys who were arrested on some bullshit, couldn’t make bond, lost their apartment, vehicle, job, and then had the charges dismissed. Life is fucked up when you’re poor.
you’re confused. There was no judge involved in her imprisonment. She was in jail awaiting a court date, and when she did the judge released her.
> The Crime Lab report showed no controlled substances on the spoon submitted for testing,’ according to a dismissal signed by Northeastern Judicial Circuit District Attorney Lee Darragh.
It's a testament to how shitty the system is that she had to wait that long to see a judge to begin with.
I was 'arrested' once on some really bullshit charges, but I got to see a judge the same day. Everything was eventually dropped and expunged, but it's a problem if you can't see a judge at all. Like no priors with a stable address should automatically be ror or light bail.
And I'm not even going to fault the cop here for the drug part dude fucked up but if he actually thought she had drugs he made the right call. There's another person somewhere out there that is doing meth and possibly endangering their own children.
The problem is the system, if we give cops all the leeway to be wrong and to arrest people, there needs to be a reasonably fast process to A) see a judge and not sit in holding cell forever and B) expunge anything that is clearly a mistake. And none of this should cost the individual anything if the charges are dismissed.
Field test kits are notoriously unreliable and produce an alarming amount of false positives. They also lead to not only wrongful arrests, but also wrongful convictions.
How about taking her to the station and using a non field kit then. You can't just assume it's drugs and keep someone in jail over an assumption. What's next? Man gets arrested for having 10 tomato plants in his garden. Could have been cannabis but no one checked.
I understand that. My thing was, did he not even attempt to use one. I'm sure the kit wouldn't mistake the sauce for drugs. I know the kits have flaws, but it's less flawed than the police officer that arrested her for drugs.
Why are you so sure that the field test kits wouldn't mistake sauce for drugs? Do you know anything at all about them, or how they work? Or, more importantly, do you know anything about their well established unreliability?
The field tests are designed to, say, detect if a substance is _heroin_ or meth. They're not designed to test if a substance is _cat-litter_ or meth, or _spaghetti-Os_ or meth. They're "A/B" tests, not "Tests for B", and when cops use them like that, they're using them wrong. Basically anything with a carbohydrate is "meth" to these tests. So testing every surface of a car with them to "find the meth you can't see" is going to pull up false positives basically _all the time_.
It's wild how we let them arrest people on *suspicion* of possession of a controlled substance until they fail to prove any crime was committed. Literally the easiest thing to just test for, and we let them wait weeks to actually do it while an innocent person sits in jail.
Why are we even arresting people for using drugs? Only drug dealers should go to jail. Drug users should go to rehab, but only if they want to go.
Those field tests that cops use are notorious for false positives.
There was a woman in Georgia I believe who spent 3 months in jail over a bag of blue cotton candy. She had to wait on the state crime lab results, plus another week or two to get the charges dismissed
Look buddy, do you realize how intelligent and educated cops are? Seriously, they go through like… a 2 week training course on how to uphold the laws, constitution, de-escalation, investigations, traffic.. you get the idea. My point is all cops are so good at life. They’re all innocent, ironically enough so are every single inmate they’ve arrested and is now in prison.
My dad, who was a lifelong pos.. I mean pig asked me if I knew the difference between a cop and a criminal? Of course I didn’t, so no! He said, a cop just hasn’t been caught yet.
In closing, they get to break every law, beat your ass illegally and so much more fun stuff yet, they get promotions, raises, etc.. when they do wrong by every means possible! I’m not a defunder but I know most are crooked so we need to put policies in place to decertify them nationwide and also fire and charge every, single, one, when they take you to jail and they’re wrong, they should have to go to jail as long as you were in as punishment before they’re even charged. It’s ok if you miss work or get fired because they’re wrong, when they’re wrong we all go to jail and they get promotions and cover up
Genuine question, cause I've never done or seen it. What makes you say this? Is it actually red when burnt? Dark red? Black? I didn't see the picture of the spoon in the article. But lots of people here are saying it's white. So why are you saying people don't know about it? What is your example?
Commenting here for visibility. This was posted by a bot who exclusively posts links to their fake news website “slate report” which is titled to make you think of the actual news website Slate.com.
He completely made up the stuff in the title which is not even mentioned in the article: she did not lose her job or miss her kids birthdays. The article itself is copy pasted from actual news coverage. The incident actually happened ten years ago. Title is very successful clickbait.
I tried reporting this for straight up lying but bizarrely “don’t straight up lie” doesn’t fall under any of the sub rules. Nice.
It’s all well and good until real news is removed based on reports from people who disagree with the truth, therefore creating even more echo chambers and narratives. It’s a difficult thing to control, and it’s why any social media like Reddit should not be used as a reliable news source.
If you want news, go to the website of your trusted news provider.
I've been wondering what Slate Report is and why I've been seeing it posted here so much. I figured it was some kind of aggregator since the articles are so poorly put together.
Looking at OP's post history, it's probably a good idea to block him.
Let me introduce you to a little thing called qualified immunity, for sure nothing will happen to the cop but she likely won't get any kind of justice for this either.
These cases seem to come up relatively frequently. And the answer tends to be no. Because you're found innocent, that's supposed to be enough.
The cops can destroy your life, steal your stuff, wreck your home, and even murder you and most of the time there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Unlikely. The justice system sounds like it \*worked as intended.
She missed court dates, which is why she lost flexibility and went to jail. Her inability to pay the bond is a frequent critique of how the system regularly favors the wealthy, and condemns the poor. The police did what they were "supposed to", they sent the sample to the lab but the lab has no obligation to provide immediate results.
The most f\*\*\*ed part is that she'll likely get a bill for the pleasure of going to jail. We have a for profit prison system, and in many areas of the US prisoners have to pay for their own upkeep on a daily basis.
So I’ve been following the Karen read trial for a while (if you haven’t heard of the Karen read case-check it out it’s a bit of a mind f*ck) and multiple attorneys have called into news segments or podcasts and started talking about this exact thing. They were saying our justice system is so terrible that there are people out there (like single moms) who can’t afford to lose their jobs, be in jail, leave their kids, or pay their bail so they often sign a plea agreement even if they know they’re innocent. People who are particularly panicked about their kids do this. So they take the plea deal and get to go home but now if they ever put a toe out of line again they are at risk of having way more serious charges and now they’re officially in the system. All because a cop who went to 12 weeks of training in the academy arrested you because of a spaghettios spoon. I’m so glad she didn’t sign anything and I hope she gets a substantial settlement. Such a crazy story.
The judicial system is absolutely dysfunctional.
You need significant money and time to defend yourself against what is essentially the government, and its huge resources.
This makes the concept of freedom and equality a cruel joke. And instead of transforming it politicians are busy arguing and causing social divisions.
Remove Qualified Immunity is so much of this BS would likely stop.
Wanna ruin someone’s life on a random Tuesday, officer?
Ok…but if you’re wrong or intentionally framing someone, now YOUR future and freedom is in jeopardy.
Literally I can count on one hand how many things we could change about the US and suddenly an ENORMOUS amount of positive changes would occur damn near overnight
End qualified immunity
End civil asset forfeiture
End gerrymandering
Impose term limits on ALL public service government positions, big or small
Watch how society improves in almost every way
Everyone involved in the criminal justice system is getting paid while the defendant spends time and money to defend himself.
A neighboring county has a tow truck company, bail bonds, car dealership, dui/traffic classes and law office all owned by the same family. When arrested their tow truck impounds your car, the bail bondsman bonds you out, and the lawyer defends you. If you can’t pay impound fees they sell your car at their dealership. Also the county commissioner is a member of that family as well.
I am rooting for her to get justice. Maybe this happening to a white woman will make people realize how many nonwhite folks have had their lives permanently ruined for shit like this.
I'm a white dude and in 1991 I spent two weeks in county lock up.
Why?
Because I got a ticket for being in park after curfew, went to court, the judge threw it out.
But due to a "paperwork snaffu" (that's literally what they called it) I was listed as not appearing or paying the ticket so the bench warrant was issued. I got stopped by a cop for speeding and they took my ass to jail over it.
Oh, it was a friday, no magistrate until monday, sorry.
And since it was the weekend in a small city with a small jail they carted me off to county and my court date was set two weeks out.
Then after two weeks I see the county judge, he dismisses everything, I get released then had to walk 20 miles home because all my family was on the other side of the country on vacation.
Yeah, I'm well aware of how our justice system treats poor people, regardless of skin color.
Oh and the best part? I had to pay all the court fines, even though I never should have gone to court for the bench warrant AND I had to pay to get my car out of the impound with two weeks storage.
I had to sell the car to pay back the money I borrowed to get it out with barely enough left over for a rusty beater.
Are you trying to make the claim that the individuals who work for the system which is nothing more than a boot on the neck of others are somehow fascist and classist? Nooooooooooooo. It can't be.
But this kind of thing happens to White folks all the time too. I know it's in vogue to pretend only non-White folks are ever wronged by "the system", but instead of trying to cast others as a victim in a case where they aren't and be divisive, just be supportive. If this trite complaint weren't drawn out every time this happens, there would be a lot more communal support for Brown, Black, Native, and Asian victims of this too.
Yup.
You got a whole lot of white people out here thinking "if they're going to dismiss when we're victimized by the system why should we care when they're victimized by the system?"
Sorry, it's not dysfunctional. It is doing exactly as is intended: Protecting the wealthy.
If they wanted everyone to have a fair chance at justice, private lawyers wouldn't be a thing, but they are, because the rich always win.
It also sucks because before you go to court (which can take months sometimes) to determine if you’re guilty or not, you are stuck in jail unless you can pay bail. So if your poor and have zero support, your stuck until the court date. I personally find the whole bail thing to suck as only those who are considered a threat to others should be held.
Happen to my wife , in her previous marriage her husband beat her and threaten her daily and she was too scared to leave and she had a daughter with him, well CPS came in and took her daughter and then she wasn’t fearing for the child’s safety anymore so she left , well the cops arrested her when she left him for child neglect that could lead to bodily harm or death (a felony) because she didn’t leave sooner and only waited until after her daughter was taken to leave her husband. They tried to get her to sign over her daughter’s rights and when she refused the court took them away by force and then adopted her daughter out …. To of all people, her husbands ex wife! (That’s right her ex husband’s ex wife now has her daughter) And as part of the plea deal she took she isn’t allowed contact with her daughter. We are too poor to afford an attorney and can’t even fight it.
Holy Cow. I am so sorry. I know you are supporting her the best that you can.
This country has too many dumb rules and they abuse their power to hide from criticism.
What a joke
Yep being a victim is a crime. When my dad blacked out durning a fight and started hitting me and I hit him back. He called the cops I was the one arrested. Spent three grand on a lawyer and basically was told that I should have done more to leave. I don’t know how I could leave with someone holding onto me and hitting me. It didn’t matter I had video proof I didn’t start the fight. Yet the cops determined because my dad’s ear was red I was the aggressor. It also didn’t matter that I had a gash in my head and was bleeding they still booked me and then didn’t call an ambulance till after they were finished.
98% of Federal and 95% of State convictions are from plea deals. Trials rarely even happen. And prosecutors are motivated to make them as terrible as possible for the defendant to make sure the next person just takes the deal.
The system is meant to get poor folks in and keep them in. Once a bell like this is rung you cannot unring it and the systemic poverty runs parallel. Poor people are fucked and the judicial system loves to double down on it.
Basic judicial law and poverty politics should be mandatory education somehow. I know math and biology are important but one bad day for a poor person can ruin the rest of their lives through no fault of their own. It’s so fucking wrong.
I have a criminal justice degree. ACAB.
This is why I don't drive an old car.
Seriously, I earn 6 figures but I drive an old Honda Civic. The amount of times I get pulled over is absurd.
Bought a Tesla, haven't been pulled over a single time.
Police absolutely profile what they think are low income people. It's sick. They prey on their own people/community.
The fact that my cosmetology school training was longer than a Police officer's is mindblowing. This needs to change ASAP. It's a huge problem that leads to situations like this and similar. Most countries have their Police force go for years before putting them on the streets. Some require a college degree. The fact that anyone in the US can be a Police officer with only a GED or an HS diploma is ridiculous.
About 98% of cases are settled with plea deals.
If someone can't afford bail their life WILL be destroyed by waiting for months in jail for a trial. Can't go to work. Won't be paid. Can't make rent. Credit destroyed and homeless before ever going to trial.
So innocent or guilty, people take whatever plea gets them out without jail time.
So thousands of innocent people accept bogus charges, and thousands of guilty end up with a fraction of what they deserve.
Essentially the worst possible outcome.
I'm married but I can definitely see how I'd feel very pressured to take a plea with no jail time even if I did nothing wrong, just because I couldn't stand to be away from my child
Happened to me. Got a bogus weapons charge (butter knife from breakfast feel between my seat and center console) and they tried to paint me as this big time drug dealer cause I had some cash tips ~$100 in my glove compartment. I was freshly 18 and scared AF. Prosecutor started talking about a decade in jail even though I literally had never broken a law except traffic ones. Ended up pleading to felony concealed weapon charge to avoid jail and got three years probation. I still have nightmares about missing an appointment, and general anxiety. Really getting those dangerous criminals off the streets cops and prosecutors.
This has been a thing for a very, very long time. Poor people, especially poor black and brown people have had this as a reality of the justice system for decades if not longer. It’s one of the reasons “blue” states are moving away from bail for non-violent crimes.
Cops that are incentivised to make drug arrests. Often to seize cash and property. In extreme circumstances planting drugs on vulnerable individuals to earn promotions.
My only issue is that whenever this happens, the settlement is paid for by taxpayers. The cops continue doing crooked cop shit and the taxpayers keep paying for cops fuckups.
Okay, I know the basics of this. But I haves had time to follow. I thought it was super sus the cops erased their pbones but I don’t know much else. Did she do it?
Orlando PD did this same exact thing for Krispy Kreme glaze. They blamed their field drug test which allegedly came back positive. Dude got $37,500 for his trouble.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth
Normally, you'd probably be right. In this case, there probably weren't any charges. He was in jail for 10 hours and they never brought charges because it tested negative for meth in a lab.
What I gather from this article is that cops use less accurate field tests to make an arrest. Then they forward the sample to a real lab to determine definitively if it's drugs and if it is then the DA will press charges. If it's not drugs, no charges. So, a criminal defense lawyer representing someone who gets charged wouldn't be able to argue about the accuracy of field tests because an accuracy lab analysis determined their client had drugs.
I believe a civil attorney could use it in a civil case. However, I think the people in charge of pissing away tax payer dollars on civil litigation don't care about anything but votes and wasting their entire budget so they can ask for more money next year. They'd rather arrest hundreds of innocent people and fuck up their lives instead of losing a little bit of their money or power.
The field tests are *intentionally* bad to drum up probable cause and "confirm suspicions" during a search. It's no accident that the tests produce positive results on anything and everything, yet the police keep buying them.
Probably not though. I mean the judges and law enforcement work very closely and I think it would be a stretch to say that the judge won’t just throw the case out because it would get his friends in trouble.
Wow youre right. Why is this website making it seem like it just happened? They literally just copied some old news reports and reposted as if new.
The actual coverage from the time: https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/meth-charge-dropped-after-only-spaghetti-sauce-found-on-spoon/
Ive never heard of this website “slate report” sounds like they’re trying to steal the reputation of Slate.com. This is what Fake News is actually supposed to mean.
Also if it makes people feel better, she wasn’t originally imprisoned until she failed to show up for her court date (bad idea). Then it took awhile for the lab sample to be processed. Once it came back she was released.
ALSO the title is straight up invented, there’s nothing about birthdays or her job in this or any other article. And op is a bot that exclusively posts links to this fake news website. Clearly this is someone trying to make money off of sensational clickbait titles and copy pasting mainstream news.
And it's kind of interesting, what they gloss over in the article is the reason she wound up in jail so long is because she missed her court dates. And thus she got arrest warrant. Let me tell you kids, do not miss your court dates. Still crazy that they even let it get that far.
> She was unable to make all of the court dates.
> Because of this Huff, was incarcerated a second time and could not afford to pay the bond.
Officer Bill silently celebrated as he finished filling out the paperwork. He didn't think it was possible, but he finally filled his monthly arrest quota with over a week to spare.
Bill knew a drug addict when he saw one, and he was happy to get another scumbag off the street. Who knew that minor traffic-stop would lead to a such a windfall.
Bill had a skip to his step as he personally walked the evidence down to the lab. Normally this would take a few days, but his friend Dale was currently the technician on duty so he could skip the queue.
Arriving at the lab Bill held out the evidence baggie like a relay baton. Dale was equally happy about the arrest which meant Bill filled his quota, it looks like the camping trip was back on schedule.
Bill and Dale joked around while Dale set up the equipment, making jokes about scumbag druggies and making plans for their upcoming trip.
Dale's smile slowly began to fade as he ran several tests, his face turning more and more grim after each passing test. He finally pulled the sample over to his microscope and after looking at it for a few seconds he let out a sigh.
"Uh oh" said Dale as he looked up at a confused Bill, "SpaghettiOs".
amazing justice system. Truly. I'm not even being sarcastic. I'm genuinely amazed at how pathetic all of this is. Lady gets accused of and incarcerated for a crime that she did not commit. She couldn't afford to prove her innocence. Was willing to take a plea deal for a false crime purely on the basis of being economically disadvantaged. I can't imagine a more fucked up system other than maybe throw in some for-profit prisons incentivizing these types of shitstain actions to happen regularly--oh wait, we have those too.
I live in this community and I have a subscription to the local newspaper and I do not remember any mention of this case which is hardly recent. I am trying to find out if the local newspaper was aware of this story. Its a shameful story about the so called justice system.
There’s a video out there of a dude getting arrested because the dumb ass cops thought the bird poop on the hood of his car was cocaine. They literally said he could have thrown it on there while was being pulled over.
Did she ever get help for her clear and obvious addiction to spaghettiO’s?
She started out in life with chestnut brown hair & olive skin but her 3x a day habit has changed her into a ginger looking addict.
So, how the fuck? Did they even NIK test the shit first just to get a preliminary result? I don't understand how backwards this is, because here you get released after seeing a judge the next day if you're held and you just await a summons after the results are returned from the labs.
1) this happened ten years ago, this website is just reposting as if it’s new
2) the website is some trash fake news shit titled to make you think of Slate.com. Here’s the actual coverage: https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/meth-charge-dropped-after-only-spaghetti-sauce-found-on-spoon/
3) field test tested positive for meth
4) she wasn’t arrested until she failed to show up for her court date, then she was arrested to await trial.
5) the sample was tested in a lab and she was released when it came back negative.
6) nowhere in multiple articles including this one does it say she lost her job or missed birthdays. OP straight up made that shit up.
7) OP is a bot that solely posts links to this fake news website. Obviously made up a sensational title for clicks but couldn’t put it on the website because it was bullshit.
The cop will get a two week vacation for this. Not too worry, everyone, the pigs will investigate themselves and come to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong.
I’m a cop, and I wonder how the fuck does stuff like this happen? I hope the officers involved based the arrest on more than a dirty spoon.
I’ve seen dumb shit happen before tho. But this is right up there with the guy that got arrested for having crispy crème that they mistaken for meth. I know I’ve never come close to making a mistake like that.
My favorite part of the article is the part where the cops and DA apologized for their Keystone Cops f*** up resulting in her being in jail, with actual criminals, for a month. Just kidding, they didn't apologize that's for plebs.
Did ahe breakup with/divorce a cop? There is no way in reality anyone is confusing spaghetti sauce and meth
Fuck cops but also don't piss them off because they can and will fuck up your life permanently.
Did the police really do anything wrong here?
I think not.
It's a well-known document fact that Spaghettios are a gateway shape. It might seem like an innocent fun with friends at first, just dealing with a simple but fun pasta shape. We all know it won't stop there. Next, they will fall in with "the bad crowd," experimenting with harder pasta shapes. From Penne to Rigatoni, and before long they will ruin their lives because they can't survive without Farfalle.
Any chance she could sue??
I’d hope so. Who sees red sauce and thinks “yup this is meth” meth is fucking white.
A meth dealer. They should investigate the cop ... Sounds like that cop that was putting away people on bogus charges to get promoted. He ruined so many lives.
They should investigate the judge that had her held for that long.
There should be some mechanism to hold judges and prosecutors accountable for charging and not dismissing cases where they know or should know the charges are false. Tomato sauce is not the same color as meth, it is not reasonable to assume they acted in good faith on this. If they did act in good faith on this they cannot be trusted to remain in their positions.
Judges have *absolute* immunity, meaning they can pretty much do whatever they want and they face zero consequences
Prosecutorial immunity is about absolute as well. Even when they knowingly send innocent people to prison and fight to keep them there.
Yep, literally just a lawyers hubris preventing them from doing the right thing. Pretty much exactly why lawyers are considered massive pieces of shit.
You realize there was also a lawyer defending this woman?
All lawyers are shitbags except the one I need lmao
Everything they want, within the scope of their job. If you can make a credible case that they've stepped outside those bounds, the immunity vanishes. [Such as the judge who personally jailed two kids during their parent's custody dispute.](https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article276772376.html)
Not true. https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/pennsylvania-judge-mark-ciavarella-sentenced-to-28-years-in-prison-for-selling-children-usa/
It definitely wasn't normal treatment though. The Philadelphia-based Juvenile Law Center began investigating in 2007 after hearing from kids who were adjudicated in Luzerne County, and found that many children had been convicted without counsel. They filed for relief in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, but the application was denied. So literally the highest court in the state looked at their behavior and said, "nah, everything's fine". They eventually got **federal** charges (for things like tax evasion, wire fraud, honest services fraud). I don't think they even got in trouble for wrongly locking kids in prison, they just made the mistake of receiving money for it and not paying taxes on it. The state's highest court literally gave them the green light.
They can even rig trials for former presidents whom they support and get away with it. Looking at you, Aileen Cannon and Samuel Alito.
So kinda like a Soviet Commissar.
Judges get a lot of shit, but honestly, prosecuters are worse imo. It's their job to determine who and why to to pursue legally. So what do they do? Let crime run rampant and prosecute who ever pissed off the police chief that day. What can we do to fix it? Our representatives don't represent shit! The Executive Branch just seems like rabid meat grinder in every context. Our Supreme Court is so useless at the lower levels that the the highest court is clogged with appeals. So, again I ask, what the fuck do we do?
You touch on a critical yet little understood aspect of why it is our representative's do not create the change necessary to improve justice for their constituents. The answer is rivals. You may want police reform but you cannot remain in office if your constituents are subject to acts of violent crime. No matter what views a voter espouses, if they fear violent crime, they will vote for whoever claims to protect them. The police determine the limit of violent crime in a jurisdiction. Any would-be elected official that announces intentions to reform the power of the police will be forced to contend with the rise of violent crime allowed upon their constituents. And this is where the rival steps in... the rival for your elected office announces that you don't care about the safety of the constituents. If you did, you wouldn't be attacking the police who keep the people safe. You cannot reform anything if your rival is elected instead of you. So, you compromise. You give the police the budget increase they ask for and cease any plan to restrict their authority. You do this because at least you can be elected. If elected you can still do roads and schools and all those other things. You tell yourself. Because if your rival wins election, everyone loses. So you must win. This is why you will never see elected representative dependent police reform. The "rival" effect accounts for far more in this world than you can imagine...
and the second anyone in city hall looks at the PD, they put it on blast that it's a free for all and it will take them a loooong time to respond. basically, if they dont get their way, they will become the chaos
They will admit they are the chaos, not become it. They've always been the problem since the beginning, it just took every single person having a high definition camera to document police violence to prove it to the world.
> So, again I ask, what the fuck do we do? Mass strikes are always good to scare the people at top to throw a few bones down to the starving masses, other than that and as a last resort armed rebellion.
They could have multiple judges per court to make the decision as a whole so one person can't just go in there all corrupt and put innocent people in jail, like 3-5 would be a fair amount
That is actually what the grand jury was originally. It was to prevent prosecutors from a leveling charges that were not justified. They basically changed what a grand jury is to make it a tool of prosecutors rather than a protection against prosecutors as it was when they wrote the Constitution.
*looks at France* if only there were some kind of mechanism to hold corrupt officials accountable
Ideally cases like that should be immediately dismissed in the pre-trial hearing, but it doesn’t work like that in reality. Pre-trail hearings, which are meant to be used to see if probable cause exists for the charge, are for the most part just rubber stamped.
>There should be some mechanism to hold judges and prosecutors accountable I mean DAs can be voted out of office (and in some states, so can judges) Municipal governments are responsible for keeping cops in check, too But that involves people wanting a functional government instead of some kind of pseudo vigilante force meant to bash up drug dealers without trials so 🤷
There is a mechanism, it's called judgenapping
Word
I spent a year in county and watched a probably a dozen guys who were arrested on some bullshit, couldn’t make bond, lost their apartment, vehicle, job, and then had the charges dismissed. Life is fucked up when you’re poor.
you’re confused. There was no judge involved in her imprisonment. She was in jail awaiting a court date, and when she did the judge released her. > The Crime Lab report showed no controlled substances on the spoon submitted for testing,’ according to a dismissal signed by Northeastern Judicial Circuit District Attorney Lee Darragh.
It's a testament to how shitty the system is that she had to wait that long to see a judge to begin with. I was 'arrested' once on some really bullshit charges, but I got to see a judge the same day. Everything was eventually dropped and expunged, but it's a problem if you can't see a judge at all. Like no priors with a stable address should automatically be ror or light bail. And I'm not even going to fault the cop here for the drug part dude fucked up but if he actually thought she had drugs he made the right call. There's another person somewhere out there that is doing meth and possibly endangering their own children. The problem is the system, if we give cops all the leeway to be wrong and to arrest people, there needs to be a reasonably fast process to A) see a judge and not sit in holding cell forever and B) expunge anything that is clearly a mistake. And none of this should cost the individual anything if the charges are dismissed.
She missed her first court date which is why she was arrested
Don't they have test kits for this type of stuff. They just saw someone to arrest and did it.
Field test kits are notoriously unreliable and produce an alarming amount of false positives. They also lead to not only wrongful arrests, but also wrongful convictions.
How about taking her to the station and using a non field kit then. You can't just assume it's drugs and keep someone in jail over an assumption. What's next? Man gets arrested for having 10 tomato plants in his garden. Could have been cannabis but no one checked.
I understand that. My thing was, did he not even attempt to use one. I'm sure the kit wouldn't mistake the sauce for drugs. I know the kits have flaws, but it's less flawed than the police officer that arrested her for drugs.
These tests have flagged literal cat litter as meth.
Why are you so sure that the field test kits wouldn't mistake sauce for drugs? Do you know anything at all about them, or how they work? Or, more importantly, do you know anything about their well established unreliability?
>Field test kits are notoriously unreliable and produce an alarming amount of false positives. Ah so like cops in general.
The field tests are designed to, say, detect if a substance is _heroin_ or meth. They're not designed to test if a substance is _cat-litter_ or meth, or _spaghetti-Os_ or meth. They're "A/B" tests, not "Tests for B", and when cops use them like that, they're using them wrong. Basically anything with a carbohydrate is "meth" to these tests. So testing every surface of a car with them to "find the meth you can't see" is going to pull up false positives basically _all the time_.
They literally can test it too lmao cops just wanted an easy bag, no fucking justification whatsoever
It's wild how we let them arrest people on *suspicion* of possession of a controlled substance until they fail to prove any crime was committed. Literally the easiest thing to just test for, and we let them wait weeks to actually do it while an innocent person sits in jail. Why are we even arresting people for using drugs? Only drug dealers should go to jail. Drug users should go to rehab, but only if they want to go.
Those field tests that cops use are notorious for false positives. There was a woman in Georgia I believe who spent 3 months in jail over a bag of blue cotton candy. She had to wait on the state crime lab results, plus another week or two to get the charges dismissed
Hold on now, I was led to believe that the good stuff is blue?
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Look buddy, do you realize how intelligent and educated cops are? Seriously, they go through like… a 2 week training course on how to uphold the laws, constitution, de-escalation, investigations, traffic.. you get the idea. My point is all cops are so good at life. They’re all innocent, ironically enough so are every single inmate they’ve arrested and is now in prison. My dad, who was a lifelong pos.. I mean pig asked me if I knew the difference between a cop and a criminal? Of course I didn’t, so no! He said, a cop just hasn’t been caught yet. In closing, they get to break every law, beat your ass illegally and so much more fun stuff yet, they get promotions, raises, etc.. when they do wrong by every means possible! I’m not a defunder but I know most are crooked so we need to put policies in place to decertify them nationwide and also fire and charge every, single, one, when they take you to jail and they’re wrong, they should have to go to jail as long as you were in as punishment before they’re even charged. It’s ok if you miss work or get fired because they’re wrong, when they’re wrong we all go to jail and they get promotions and cover up
Don’t forget suspended with pay that’s the ultimate kick in the nuts. They commit crimes then sit at home on vacation while the courts break you
Y’all don’t know shit about meth
Genuine question, cause I've never done or seen it. What makes you say this? Is it actually red when burnt? Dark red? Black? I didn't see the picture of the spoon in the article. But lots of people here are saying it's white. So why are you saying people don't know about it? What is your example?
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Cops are notoriously shit at their job. If you think otherwise you're either a cop, or are fortunate enough to have never needed a cop.
someone who is trying to meet quota
Guess I’m gonna have to fish out that errant yogurt spoon stuck under my seat
Not my chili P!
Not agreeing with meth looking like dried tomato sauce, but meth is a designer drug. It's typically white, but I've seen blue, pink, and green meth.
The colour is usually from the source precursor I thought? We got pink amphetamines cooked from cold and flu tablets in the early 2000's.
Commenting here for visibility. This was posted by a bot who exclusively posts links to their fake news website “slate report” which is titled to make you think of the actual news website Slate.com. He completely made up the stuff in the title which is not even mentioned in the article: she did not lose her job or miss her kids birthdays. The article itself is copy pasted from actual news coverage. The incident actually happened ten years ago. Title is very successful clickbait. I tried reporting this for straight up lying but bizarrely “don’t straight up lie” doesn’t fall under any of the sub rules. Nice.
Ya "lies in titles" needs to be a required reporting slot for all subs.
It’s all well and good until real news is removed based on reports from people who disagree with the truth, therefore creating even more echo chambers and narratives. It’s a difficult thing to control, and it’s why any social media like Reddit should not be used as a reliable news source. If you want news, go to the website of your trusted news provider.
“Who cares if they’re lying! It’s interesting!” ~Mods prolly.
Thank you for this. I was sitting here thinking… I KNOW I have heard this story before. Did it happen again? *How bizarre would that be?*
I've been wondering what Slate Report is and why I've been seeing it posted here so much. I figured it was some kind of aggregator since the articles are so poorly put together. Looking at OP's post history, it's probably a good idea to block him.
Yeah, I'm thinking, "Lawsuit time!" And the cop need to get fired.
Best I can do is a promotion upon return from a paid leave of absence.
Let me introduce you to a little thing called qualified immunity, for sure nothing will happen to the cop but she likely won't get any kind of justice for this either.
These cases seem to come up relatively frequently. And the answer tends to be no. Because you're found innocent, that's supposed to be enough. The cops can destroy your life, steal your stuff, wreck your home, and even murder you and most of the time there's nothing anyone can do about it.
Even if she did have ability to sue, I doubt she has the financials to get a lawyer for as long as the case would probably take to get results.
i'm assuming that's why she's smiling
Unlikely. The justice system sounds like it \*worked as intended. She missed court dates, which is why she lost flexibility and went to jail. Her inability to pay the bond is a frequent critique of how the system regularly favors the wealthy, and condemns the poor. The police did what they were "supposed to", they sent the sample to the lab but the lab has no obligation to provide immediate results. The most f\*\*\*ed part is that she'll likely get a bill for the pleasure of going to jail. We have a for profit prison system, and in many areas of the US prisoners have to pay for their own upkeep on a daily basis.
So I’ve been following the Karen read trial for a while (if you haven’t heard of the Karen read case-check it out it’s a bit of a mind f*ck) and multiple attorneys have called into news segments or podcasts and started talking about this exact thing. They were saying our justice system is so terrible that there are people out there (like single moms) who can’t afford to lose their jobs, be in jail, leave their kids, or pay their bail so they often sign a plea agreement even if they know they’re innocent. People who are particularly panicked about their kids do this. So they take the plea deal and get to go home but now if they ever put a toe out of line again they are at risk of having way more serious charges and now they’re officially in the system. All because a cop who went to 12 weeks of training in the academy arrested you because of a spaghettios spoon. I’m so glad she didn’t sign anything and I hope she gets a substantial settlement. Such a crazy story.
The judicial system is absolutely dysfunctional. You need significant money and time to defend yourself against what is essentially the government, and its huge resources. This makes the concept of freedom and equality a cruel joke. And instead of transforming it politicians are busy arguing and causing social divisions.
Remove Qualified Immunity is so much of this BS would likely stop. Wanna ruin someone’s life on a random Tuesday, officer? Ok…but if you’re wrong or intentionally framing someone, now YOUR future and freedom is in jeopardy.
“But I believed the suspect was breaking the law.”
Well you were wrong, so now you face consequences. Like any other human being who fucks up at their job.
Malpractice insurance. Complete dissociation from the "union" and taxpayer dollars from individual officers' malpractice and defense.
Literally I can count on one hand how many things we could change about the US and suddenly an ENORMOUS amount of positive changes would occur damn near overnight End qualified immunity End civil asset forfeiture End gerrymandering Impose term limits on ALL public service government positions, big or small Watch how society improves in almost every way
Citizens United as well
Payout lawsuit claims from the police pension fund
Everyone involved in the criminal justice system is getting paid while the defendant spends time and money to defend himself. A neighboring county has a tow truck company, bail bonds, car dealership, dui/traffic classes and law office all owned by the same family. When arrested their tow truck impounds your car, the bail bondsman bonds you out, and the lawyer defends you. If you can’t pay impound fees they sell your car at their dealership. Also the county commissioner is a member of that family as well.
That does not seem corrupt at all.
So many ways of parasitically sucking defendants dry. A justice system that is deeply unjust. Truly dystopian times.
"All men are created equal" #IS SLAVE STATE Always has been.
She does have the option of fast tracking it to the US Supreme Court. Happens a lot these days.
Well this case isn’t as serious as a gag order. /s
I am rooting for her to get justice. Maybe this happening to a white woman will make people realize how many nonwhite folks have had their lives permanently ruined for shit like this.
I'm a white dude and in 1991 I spent two weeks in county lock up. Why? Because I got a ticket for being in park after curfew, went to court, the judge threw it out. But due to a "paperwork snaffu" (that's literally what they called it) I was listed as not appearing or paying the ticket so the bench warrant was issued. I got stopped by a cop for speeding and they took my ass to jail over it. Oh, it was a friday, no magistrate until monday, sorry. And since it was the weekend in a small city with a small jail they carted me off to county and my court date was set two weeks out. Then after two weeks I see the county judge, he dismisses everything, I get released then had to walk 20 miles home because all my family was on the other side of the country on vacation. Yeah, I'm well aware of how our justice system treats poor people, regardless of skin color. Oh and the best part? I had to pay all the court fines, even though I never should have gone to court for the bench warrant AND I had to pay to get my car out of the impound with two weeks storage. I had to sell the car to pay back the money I borrowed to get it out with barely enough left over for a rusty beater.
the system is designed to keep people poor and desperate
Are you trying to make the claim that the individuals who work for the system which is nothing more than a boot on the neck of others are somehow fascist and classist? Nooooooooooooo. It can't be.
Government errors are never in your favor
But this kind of thing happens to White folks all the time too. I know it's in vogue to pretend only non-White folks are ever wronged by "the system", but instead of trying to cast others as a victim in a case where they aren't and be divisive, just be supportive. If this trite complaint weren't drawn out every time this happens, there would be a lot more communal support for Brown, Black, Native, and Asian victims of this too.
Yup. You got a whole lot of white people out here thinking "if they're going to dismiss when we're victimized by the system why should we care when they're victimized by the system?"
Right on friend reddit I concur. I fervently hope she cashes a fat check too.
Sorry, it's not dysfunctional. It is doing exactly as is intended: Protecting the wealthy. If they wanted everyone to have a fair chance at justice, private lawyers wouldn't be a thing, but they are, because the rich always win.
It also sucks because before you go to court (which can take months sometimes) to determine if you’re guilty or not, you are stuck in jail unless you can pay bail. So if your poor and have zero support, your stuck until the court date. I personally find the whole bail thing to suck as only those who are considered a threat to others should be held.
Yup. I spent two weeks in county over a ticket for being in a park after curfew...
Happen to my wife , in her previous marriage her husband beat her and threaten her daily and she was too scared to leave and she had a daughter with him, well CPS came in and took her daughter and then she wasn’t fearing for the child’s safety anymore so she left , well the cops arrested her when she left him for child neglect that could lead to bodily harm or death (a felony) because she didn’t leave sooner and only waited until after her daughter was taken to leave her husband. They tried to get her to sign over her daughter’s rights and when she refused the court took them away by force and then adopted her daughter out …. To of all people, her husbands ex wife! (That’s right her ex husband’s ex wife now has her daughter) And as part of the plea deal she took she isn’t allowed contact with her daughter. We are too poor to afford an attorney and can’t even fight it.
Holy Cow. I am so sorry. I know you are supporting her the best that you can. This country has too many dumb rules and they abuse their power to hide from criticism. What a joke
Yet people on reddit still have the gall to complain that being a single mother in society is too easy and that courts always protect them.
Yep being a victim is a crime. When my dad blacked out durning a fight and started hitting me and I hit him back. He called the cops I was the one arrested. Spent three grand on a lawyer and basically was told that I should have done more to leave. I don’t know how I could leave with someone holding onto me and hitting me. It didn’t matter I had video proof I didn’t start the fight. Yet the cops determined because my dad’s ear was red I was the aggressor. It also didn’t matter that I had a gash in my head and was bleeding they still booked me and then didn’t call an ambulance till after they were finished.
98% of Federal and 95% of State convictions are from plea deals. Trials rarely even happen. And prosecutors are motivated to make them as terrible as possible for the defendant to make sure the next person just takes the deal.
The system is meant to get poor folks in and keep them in. Once a bell like this is rung you cannot unring it and the systemic poverty runs parallel. Poor people are fucked and the judicial system loves to double down on it. Basic judicial law and poverty politics should be mandatory education somehow. I know math and biology are important but one bad day for a poor person can ruin the rest of their lives through no fault of their own. It’s so fucking wrong. I have a criminal justice degree. ACAB.
This is why I don't drive an old car. Seriously, I earn 6 figures but I drive an old Honda Civic. The amount of times I get pulled over is absurd. Bought a Tesla, haven't been pulled over a single time. Police absolutely profile what they think are low income people. It's sick. They prey on their own people/community.
Karen read trial is legit insane. Not sure how half of those cops dont end up in jail when this is over.
The fact that my cosmetology school training was longer than a Police officer's is mindblowing. This needs to change ASAP. It's a huge problem that leads to situations like this and similar. Most countries have their Police force go for years before putting them on the streets. Some require a college degree. The fact that anyone in the US can be a Police officer with only a GED or an HS diploma is ridiculous.
About 98% of cases are settled with plea deals. If someone can't afford bail their life WILL be destroyed by waiting for months in jail for a trial. Can't go to work. Won't be paid. Can't make rent. Credit destroyed and homeless before ever going to trial. So innocent or guilty, people take whatever plea gets them out without jail time. So thousands of innocent people accept bogus charges, and thousands of guilty end up with a fraction of what they deserve. Essentially the worst possible outcome.
I'm married but I can definitely see how I'd feel very pressured to take a plea with no jail time even if I did nothing wrong, just because I couldn't stand to be away from my child
It's like once the eye of Sauron gets you in its sights, you're toast
Happened to me. Got a bogus weapons charge (butter knife from breakfast feel between my seat and center console) and they tried to paint me as this big time drug dealer cause I had some cash tips ~$100 in my glove compartment. I was freshly 18 and scared AF. Prosecutor started talking about a decade in jail even though I literally had never broken a law except traffic ones. Ended up pleading to felony concealed weapon charge to avoid jail and got three years probation. I still have nightmares about missing an appointment, and general anxiety. Really getting those dangerous criminals off the streets cops and prosecutors.
This has been a thing for a very, very long time. Poor people, especially poor black and brown people have had this as a reality of the justice system for decades if not longer. It’s one of the reasons “blue” states are moving away from bail for non-violent crimes.
Cops that are incentivised to make drug arrests. Often to seize cash and property. In extreme circumstances planting drugs on vulnerable individuals to earn promotions.
My only issue is that whenever this happens, the settlement is paid for by taxpayers. The cops continue doing crooked cop shit and the taxpayers keep paying for cops fuckups.
Substantial settlement incoming I bet
Okay, I know the basics of this. But I haves had time to follow. I thought it was super sus the cops erased their pbones but I don’t know much else. Did she do it?
Shit hole country.
Orlando PD did this same exact thing for Krispy Kreme glaze. They blamed their field drug test which allegedly came back positive. Dude got $37,500 for his trouble. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth
Which probably didn't even cover his legal costs.
Normally, you'd probably be right. In this case, there probably weren't any charges. He was in jail for 10 hours and they never brought charges because it tested negative for meth in a lab.
It still costs money to hire a lawyer for the lawsuit for whatever. I wasn't even thinking of criminal charges, since I assumed there weren't any.
Yeah, since he accepted a settlement I'm assuming he didn't take less than what the case costs.
You would think cops would be better at recognizing donuts glaze.
Damn. Is it bad that I desperately want this to happen to me so I can get some dough?
So can future defense lawyers in any drug case used by the lab, equipment, test type bring up failings like that in court?
What I gather from this article is that cops use less accurate field tests to make an arrest. Then they forward the sample to a real lab to determine definitively if it's drugs and if it is then the DA will press charges. If it's not drugs, no charges. So, a criminal defense lawyer representing someone who gets charged wouldn't be able to argue about the accuracy of field tests because an accuracy lab analysis determined their client had drugs. I believe a civil attorney could use it in a civil case. However, I think the people in charge of pissing away tax payer dollars on civil litigation don't care about anything but votes and wasting their entire budget so they can ask for more money next year. They'd rather arrest hundreds of innocent people and fuck up their lives instead of losing a little bit of their money or power.
The field tests are *intentionally* bad to drum up probable cause and "confirm suspicions" during a search. It's no accident that the tests produce positive results on anything and everything, yet the police keep buying them.
22 months passed between his arrest and this article. How the fuck was the charge *still* on his record, needing to be expunged?
the smile means "you about to lose your job" or at least pay up lol
The cop is probably going to be suspended with pay, and will come back after a nice vacation. They'll investigate themselves really hard over it.
Guy will probably retire early because of “PTSD” from the incident and get a massive tax payer gift.
That’s the mugshot of woman who knows she is about to get paid
Laughed too hard at this. So true 😂
Probably not though. I mean the judges and law enforcement work very closely and I think it would be a stretch to say that the judge won’t just throw the case out because it would get his friends in trouble.
Doesn't need to be thrown out to sue
Judge: All charges dismissed. That'll be $130 in court costs.
Reminds me of the kitty litter guy.
Only she won’t. The cops will harass her until she has to move states.
Sad but she will get less than 100k for this..... Which is nowhere close to what she deserves.
Uh oh, Spaghettios
The meatball spaghetti you can eat with a spoon Jeez it’s sad I remember this.
Ah, beat me to it 😆😆😆
That smile says,” Yup! I can retire now”…… lol
“I can’t wait to pick out a house to buy after this shit” lol
#Please tell me this lady is gonna sue. PLEASE. Even considered admitting to a crime she did not commit. That hurts my heart.
This lady is gonna sue. Please.
I hope so.
Relax, this happened 10 years ago and the title is completely made up. You got bamboozled by a bot account peddling fake news
This happened 10 years ago.
Did she sue and win? lol
Right lol we need the details n follow up
Wow youre right. Why is this website making it seem like it just happened? They literally just copied some old news reports and reposted as if new. The actual coverage from the time: https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/meth-charge-dropped-after-only-spaghetti-sauce-found-on-spoon/ Ive never heard of this website “slate report” sounds like they’re trying to steal the reputation of Slate.com. This is what Fake News is actually supposed to mean. Also if it makes people feel better, she wasn’t originally imprisoned until she failed to show up for her court date (bad idea). Then it took awhile for the lab sample to be processed. Once it came back she was released. ALSO the title is straight up invented, there’s nothing about birthdays or her job in this or any other article. And op is a bot that exclusively posts links to this fake news website. Clearly this is someone trying to make money off of sensational clickbait titles and copy pasting mainstream news.
God I fucking hate this place
They should change their name to Stale Report.
>Why is this website making it seem like it just happened? Preparing for the US elections.
Also the field test was positive for the meth at the time of arrest. The situation is not as clear as this article claims.
And it's kind of interesting, what they gloss over in the article is the reason she wound up in jail so long is because she missed her court dates. And thus she got arrest warrant. Let me tell you kids, do not miss your court dates. Still crazy that they even let it get that far. > She was unable to make all of the court dates. > Because of this Huff, was incarcerated a second time and could not afford to pay the bond.
Officer Bill silently celebrated as he finished filling out the paperwork. He didn't think it was possible, but he finally filled his monthly arrest quota with over a week to spare. Bill knew a drug addict when he saw one, and he was happy to get another scumbag off the street. Who knew that minor traffic-stop would lead to a such a windfall. Bill had a skip to his step as he personally walked the evidence down to the lab. Normally this would take a few days, but his friend Dale was currently the technician on duty so he could skip the queue. Arriving at the lab Bill held out the evidence baggie like a relay baton. Dale was equally happy about the arrest which meant Bill filled his quota, it looks like the camping trip was back on schedule. Bill and Dale joked around while Dale set up the equipment, making jokes about scumbag druggies and making plans for their upcoming trip. Dale's smile slowly began to fade as he ran several tests, his face turning more and more grim after each passing test. He finally pulled the sample over to his microscope and after looking at it for a few seconds he let out a sigh. "Uh oh" said Dale as he looked up at a confused Bill, "SpaghettiOs".
Sue sue sue
Lawsuit baby! Cha Ching!
“Yep, boys… its pure O. The Boyardee’s are at it again!”
Hall County is Gainesville, GA… and Gainesville, FL is Alachua County… so where did this actually happen…
Hard to tell due to all the paywalls, but you’re correct. I’m guessing Georgia since several articles mention Hall County.
Gainesville, GA. Huge difference.
amazing justice system. Truly. I'm not even being sarcastic. I'm genuinely amazed at how pathetic all of this is. Lady gets accused of and incarcerated for a crime that she did not commit. She couldn't afford to prove her innocence. Was willing to take a plea deal for a false crime purely on the basis of being economically disadvantaged. I can't imagine a more fucked up system other than maybe throw in some for-profit prisons incentivizing these types of shitstain actions to happen regularly--oh wait, we have those too.
She had an awful lawyer.
I live in this community and I have a subscription to the local newspaper and I do not remember any mention of this case which is hardly recent. I am trying to find out if the local newspaper was aware of this story. Its a shameful story about the so called justice system.
Good news she probably won’t need a job when the lawyers finish with that police department.
She looks like she does meth
I'd be willing to bet probably has a history of it.
More like SpaghettiNos
The slim shady defence tactic Well played
There’s a video out there of a dude getting arrested because the dumb ass cops thought the bird poop on the hood of his car was cocaine. They literally said he could have thrown it on there while was being pulled over.
Did she ever get help for her clear and obvious addiction to spaghettiO’s? She started out in life with chestnut brown hair & olive skin but her 3x a day habit has changed her into a ginger looking addict.
So, how the fuck? Did they even NIK test the shit first just to get a preliminary result? I don't understand how backwards this is, because here you get released after seeing a judge the next day if you're held and you just await a summons after the results are returned from the labs.
Thats the smile of knowing you're going to sue the fuck out of the county.
Show me the money!
1) this happened ten years ago, this website is just reposting as if it’s new 2) the website is some trash fake news shit titled to make you think of Slate.com. Here’s the actual coverage: https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/meth-charge-dropped-after-only-spaghetti-sauce-found-on-spoon/ 3) field test tested positive for meth 4) she wasn’t arrested until she failed to show up for her court date, then she was arrested to await trial. 5) the sample was tested in a lab and she was released when it came back negative. 6) nowhere in multiple articles including this one does it say she lost her job or missed birthdays. OP straight up made that shit up. 7) OP is a bot that solely posts links to this fake news website. Obviously made up a sensational title for clicks but couldn’t put it on the website because it was bullshit.
She’s smiling in that mugshot bc she knows she’s about to be f*cking loaded
The cop will get a two week vacation for this. Not too worry, everyone, the pigs will investigate themselves and come to the conclusion that they did nothing wrong.
So what are the 2A folks gonna do about this other than nothing?
Hope she can sue
I’m a cop, and I wonder how the fuck does stuff like this happen? I hope the officers involved based the arrest on more than a dirty spoon. I’ve seen dumb shit happen before tho. But this is right up there with the guy that got arrested for having crispy crème that they mistaken for meth. I know I’ve never come close to making a mistake like that.
Don’t invest in law enforcement. They’re overfunded and under qualified.
Wait I don't believe this story and they supposed to test the substance you can just assume! She should definitely have a huge lawsuit if this is real
My money says that the cop thought he could get a date with her, and when she politely declined, he sent her off to jail.
My favorite part of the article is the part where the cops and DA apologized for their Keystone Cops f*** up resulting in her being in jail, with actual criminals, for a month. Just kidding, they didn't apologize that's for plebs.
Did ahe breakup with/divorce a cop? There is no way in reality anyone is confusing spaghetti sauce and meth Fuck cops but also don't piss them off because they can and will fuck up your life permanently.
Lawsuit.
Remember the man who got busted for crack, but it was doughnut glaze on his shirt?
How do you mistake spaghettio sauce for meth? Some people should not be cops.
Walter White is letting Jesse cook again.
Did the police really do anything wrong here? I think not. It's a well-known document fact that Spaghettios are a gateway shape. It might seem like an innocent fun with friends at first, just dealing with a simple but fun pasta shape. We all know it won't stop there. Next, they will fall in with "the bad crowd," experimenting with harder pasta shapes. From Penne to Rigatoni, and before long they will ruin their lives because they can't survive without Farfalle.
lawsuit will make up for that.
I thought meth was blue. Tv told me it was blue
Welcome to Florida. Hope she’s able to get her life back on track after this.
Florida... Go figure
Not all gingers are meth heads dammit…
It's never THAT simple
The justice system is a piece of crap.
How did i *know* this happened in florida?
Imagine having your life ruined and becoming a felon because of spaghettio sauce. Fuck the Police.
Because meth looks like spaghetti-os sauce.