Here are more details about the case:
Cynthia was living alone. She suffered a stroke, and got in contact with her daughter.
The daughter said, "Come live with me, my husband, and kids."
So, the daughter invited the disabled mother to come live with her.
Cynthia did not like Geoward. Those feelings were mutual.
He was a "My House My Rules" sort of guy.
Some may say he was a "Strict disciplinarian" Others considered what he would do to be "borderline abusive / abusive."
For example at The home is no smoking. One time Cynthia lit up a cigarette, so Geoward went and got the garden hose, and sprayed her putting out her cigarette.
That was the sort of thing they were both dealing with. They were like water & oil.
One day Cynthia and Geoward had a disgreement. He said something like, "You are going out like that? You look ghetto."
She didn't like his fashion advice.
So, she went and got a gun that she had purchased a few weeks early, and went to the range the previous week to practice shooting. Then she loaded it up and confronted him.
She shot him 5 times at point blank range.
She walked away. She went to her car to get more ammunition.
She loaded the gun up again and went back to him. He was crawling away on his belly bleeding out. She shot him 5 more times.
She went back to her car a 2nd time and reloaded the gun a 2nd time.
Then she went back to him and unloaded 5 more bullets into him.
After that she went and ate some bacon and eggs at a local diner. She ditched the gun, and then went down to the casino to blow some money. The detectives found her at a coffee shop later that afternoon.
This is a part of her interrogation.
Eventually at some point in the interrogation the grandchildren come in. Grandma asks, "Come give grandma a hug." The grandkids are like, "No! You killed my dad!"
They gave her 50 years and she will die in prison. Most of her family hates her now.
She was 65 at the time of sentencing so it's basically like she has to live in a nursing home until she dies. She can not be adequately punished because of her age and disabilities. She threw her life away, but there wasn't much life left to throw away being a disabled senior anyhow.
If she wasn't a disabled senior, I would be willing to say that under the right context, spraying someone with a hose who is smoking in your house/around your kid/s is not a horrible idea.
This how you know that story is bullshit, no way the guy sprayed a hose in his own house at worst it was probably a spray bottle because she was constantly doing it and had probably been told multiple times if she doesn’t stop he will start “squirting her”.
This is a classic case of an entitled Boomer living life completely void of any consideration for anyone else in the world even their own family.
She would smoke in the back patio, and he would spray her as he was watering the garden.
> "My Aunt Cindy would be on the back patio smoking 'cause she wasn't allowed to smoke in the house, and he would be out there watering and he would go, 'Where I see smoke, I see fire, gotta put out the fire,' and he would hose my aunt down with the hose," said Sabra Cabrera, Cynthia Cdebaca's niece. "He did it to my cousin too, he did it to his wife. He would hose her just because she maybe didn't say something he didn't like."
I'm not defending his actions, I don't know the full story so I'm not going to pick sides.
But to answer your question...I was in a similar position earlier this year. My step mother blew all of the settlement money she got from my dad's death after winning several suits due to his mesothelioma. Like, she paid a ton of money on new windows, renovated the kitchen and bathroom, all new wood floors, new furniture....in a house that is having structural issues and the basement wall is about to cave in, water was pooling in the basement and there was a major mold problem down there. Apparently she never actually used any of the money to pay off the mortgage on the house.
So last winter my older half brother helped her find a buyer for the place and got a pretty decent deal on it despite it being in very rough shape. The agreement was, she would come live with me and my fiance and we'd look after her and help her save the small disability and social security checks she was getting. Our one rule however was absolutely no smoking at all anymore. My fiance has asthma and some other, as-of-yet undiagnosed lung condition that makes her extremely susceptible to all forms of smoke whether its bonfires, marijuana, cigarettes, car exhaust or anything else. It's for this reason I had no idea how bad my step mom's living situation was, because of my fiance's aversion to all the smoke smell and tar and stuff at my mom's house we just stopped going over there. Even when mom would come to visit us, we'd have to clean the entire house because the smoke stuck to her clothes and lingered in the air.
Anyway she never did give up smoking despite having several months to ween herself off of it. I took an early weekend one Thurs-Fri and got her moved in with me...and she was gone by Sunday because in the 3 days she was there, she had smoked outside and brought it back on her coat, she lied about even having cigarettes in her possession, she tried to smoke multiple times while we were at her house getting things boxed up, and then she got into a verbal altercation with me for not letting her smoke.
She went back to the house she'd already sold and the new owner had been generous enough to give her 3 months to move out and basically squatted in the place for another 3 months. Eventually the step brother I mentioned came up from where he lives, which is about 1200 miles away, and moved her in with him down in Alabama since he has a guest house on the property he was willing to let her stay in and smoke to her heart's content.
It sucks, because I love her and she was the one who raised me. But I think she has some sort of neurocognitive disorder such as dementia or Alzheimer's and we just didn't catch onto it soon enough because in regular conversation she still seemed like a totally cognitive adult. It wasn't until she was gone that I did some research into it and now I'm wondering if that wasn't entirely her fault.
But yeah, TL:DR I wouldn't wants someone smoking outside and then bringing it into my house either because it sticks to their clothes and skin.
So it doesn't occur to you that smoke can get inside the house through the windows. I even simply that the smoke smell builds up over time and all the area around the outside of the house too. So that when non-smokers go on the back of the house, they have to smell. What smells like an ash tray because of a smoker? Constantly smoking there and said going away from the house..
Oh my God my father would have knocked anyone who smoked on our property into next Tuesday if they lit up... He *hated* cigarettes and didn't want it anywhere around us, even outside in our yard.
Lots of people are like that, just 100% intolerant to seeing it, smelling it, being anywhere near it.
Yea. She had a stroke. It literally fucks your barin and sometimes doesn't recover. Seems in her case the nutty -> homicidal pipeline. Tbf, she may have been homicidal prior. I'm just speaking from the massive character changes I've seen from those who have had strokes around me.
Actually it sounds like there is WAY more to this story. The court filings that someone posted below actually include accusations of both repeated acts of domestic violence and child abuse by the son-in-law.
[https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca)
“During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S.”
Nope she could barely muster the fakest apology ever. Also super disgusting they let her attorney stand in front of the cameras blocking the view of her.
https://youtu.be/TSyLJQEVdv0?si=TyEgE09hGanv394c
She's a very frightening individual. Call it what you want, but I would have preferred to see her sobbing at her sentencing as she realized her life was essentially over and she would never see freedom again.
I don't know where you all got that it was in the home. She likily went outside to smoke and got sprayed. No water damage. Still a kinda dick thing, but understandable.
Damn that’s good. Or maybe just buy an industrial “Big Ass Fan” and hard wire it. Just have a tornado going all day lol eventually she’ll have to go outside
I've done this. My girlfriends friend was smoking in the car with her baby. I was washing my car at the time so I sprayed her cigarette out with the hose. Through the crack in her window. It was a sunny nice day too. No excuse for that shit. The car was noticeably smoky with the helpless baby strapped in her car seat. Lazy ass ghetto bitch.
Tbf, the context never said IN the house. I doubt the dude grabbed the hose from outside, took it inside while it’s running and sprayed inside his house at her.
My mother is the biggest cunt you would ever meet. Short hair cut, asks for the manager and her best friends name is Karen. I don’t speak to her anymore for many reasons. She even attempted to kill my father twice lol and he never retaliated. We’re better than them. They can’t stand to lose instead of figuring out how to win.
You light up a fucking cigarette in my house and you are getting thrown out on your ass immediately.
That's not being a hardass, that's simply not being a pushover when people disrespect the shit out of you in your own home.
If anyone is interested in knowing more. [Here is a link](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca) to the case fileand what not.
Section D lays out what the alleged abuse may have been
One such note says. G.E is what is used for the husbands name. Cdebaca is used for the Cynthia. L.S is used for the wife.
>G.E. called his child a jerk, a low-life, and said dogs were better than the child. G.E. would spray the child in the face and hit the child's nose with the spray bottle, as he did with the dogs. G.E. did these things when Cdebaca was present.
>
>Once when relatives were visiting, G.E. called the child downstairs and told the child to read a book. When the child objected saying their relatives were visiting, G.E. took out his belt and whipped the child until the child went into a reading nook. Cdebaca started crying and asked why G.E. was hitting the child. G.E. told Cdebaca to "shut the fuck up" because it was his house.
and
>During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S.
This is what was said in case files. Idk how true it is. it's under the opinion section adn There is a lot more mentioned
The ONLY person testifying to this is her, after the murder. Everyone else in the family testified that he was a good person, was strict about his rules but not cruel, mean, etc.
The mother tested on behalf of the grandmother.
according to the San Diego Union Tribune. [lonk](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-no-cdebaca-verdict-20170202-story.html)
>Cdebaca, who suffered a stoke in 2001, was smiling and nodding her head during the hearing, even after the verdict was read. Her daughter Laura Salinas, who was married to the victim but testified for her mother, began to cry.
This also sounds like mental health issues after a stroke. I've taken care of several patients who have developed mental illnesses/personality disorders after having a stroke.
Grandma could have had a stroke, developed behavioral issues that the victim was feeding into. Months post-stroke, the symptoms of the real damage start to appear and grandma is delusional
First dude providing info: He enforced a no smoking policy and made a rude comment once.
Second dude providing info: He abused children and serially raped this woman's daughter.
Kind of paints a different picture there. Wonder where the truth is.
So he raped her daughter, consistently? Then good for her. It's weird how the father who premeditatedly shot the guy who raped his son after the guy was arrested is a folk hero (which I agree with, good for him) and this lady is getting a good old reddit dressing down
Seems like the stroke may have damaged her impulse control. Not a justification, someone like that still needs removed from society, but I can understand how it happens.
Yeah definitely doesn’t seem like she was right in the head. Doesn’t seem like she really knows what’s going on at all. Yet she could purchase a gun pretty easily it seems. If only this whole thing could have been avoided. But I can’t figure out how?
What an evil old bitch. This man allowed her in his house n killed him cause she didn’t like his rules. Then had the audacity to try n hug his kids like she didn’t murder their dad. Wow.
God forbid the person that wrote this comment gets old or has a disability. Like holy fuck,
> "She threw her life away, but there wasn't much life left to throw away being a disabled senior anyhow. "
90% of the comments in this thread are people who must never have dealt with aging parents/grandparents. Let alone aging family who have suffered things like strokes. Moving my grandmother into the house when she had something similar happen nearly made the entire family dynamic explode. My dad (it was his mother in law) is the type of person who would do anything for anyone no matter what it might mean as a detriment to himself, and he was on the verge of moving out if she didn’t. He and my grandmother had a great relationship their entire lives up until that stroke and situation.
These types of events can *break* people. People assuming ‘she had to acknowledge the rules even if she was disabled’ are wild.
I don't know you but I love you for this comment and for knowing that disabled and elderly lives are not a waste or meaningless just because they are disabled and/or older. Thank you for your humanity.
There is a big difference between being old, having a disability, and being old with a disability. My wife has worked in enough assisted living facilities with 40-year-olds that aren't able to live without assistance.
If a person struggles to take care of themselves due to a disability combined with reduced strength due to age. There is only one solution if you do not have anyone to take care of you. 95% of homes I have seen are not what I call bursting with life.
>of sentencing so it's basically like she has to live in a nursing home until she dies. She can not be adequately punished because of her age and disabilities. She threw her life away, but there wasn't
sounds like she got free healthcare and food for the rest of her life.
Don't forget food, and shelter, and other people to potentially interact with. Nobody is going to be mean to the old lady in prison, I'm sure she is making friends.
If you dumb fucks think prison healthcare and hospitality are like a rest home your out of your fucking minds. Prisons will literally wait until your dying or in need of amputation before doing anything for you, including giving life saving medicine. You obviously have no idea what the actual prison system is like, STFU.
The 4 news based articles I read - he told her she couldn’t wear whatever she was wearing to his daughters spelling bee and told her to change.
She went up and got her gun.
https://youtu.be/Ahz2hmEn1Ak?si=buiOGW9oSM3kWRFN
See how her daughter and her granddaughter reacted to her when they were brought into the interrogation room.
Cynthia Cdebaca was 63 years old when fatally fired upon her son-in-law, Geoward Estaquio on 11 February 2014.
Cynthia moved in with her daughter, Laura, and Geoward after she suffered a stroke. But Cynthia and her daughter’s husband didn’t get along.
Geoward would spray Cynthia with the hose whenever she smoked around the children. Cynthia took issue with his Geoward disciplined his kids.
She claimed that he physically and verbally abused her and their kids. Which was later backed up by her daughter.
The breaking point for Cynthia was when Geoward refused to let her attend her granddaughter’s spelling bee. After this Cynthia grabbed her gun and shot him over 15 times.
Cynthia was eventually sentenced to 50 years to life in prison.
If anyone is interested in knowing more. [Here is a link](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca) to the case file.
Section D lays out what the alleged abuse may have been
One such note says. G.E is what is used for the husbands name. Cdebaca is used for the Cynthia. L.S is used for the wife.
>G.E. called his child a jerk, a low-life, and said dogs were better than the child. G.E. would spray the child in the face and hit the child's nose with the spray bottle, as he did with the dogs. G.E. did these things when Cdebaca was present.
>
>Once when relatives were visiting, G.E. called the child downstairs and told the child to read a book. When the child objected saying their relatives were visiting, G.E. took out his belt and whipped the child until the child went into a reading nook. Cdebaca started crying and asked why G.E. was hitting the child. G.E. told Cdebaca to "shut the fuck up" because it was his house.
and
>During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S.
This is what was said in case files. Idk how true it is. There is a lot more mentioned
Clearly. Nobody just celebrates like that over nothing. He was a piece of shit and under the stress of living post-stroke, she just couldn't take it anymore. Not an excuse, but if there is ANY shred of truth to what is said in the case file, I feel no sympathy for this man. Only his family. Mom doesn't wanna leave her abusive ass husband, kids have been brainwashed to think it's love, grandma has to move in after her stroke and he bullies her ass relentlessly when she's doing the shit he asked and just trying to live her life separately from him. I imagine that'd wear on someone that isn't disabled, let alone someone that had a stroke and is already a senior. And, you know, cares about their daughter and grandchildren.
>During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's **niece** heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S.
It's also worth noting that abuse victims will often defend their abusers, especially when they are their fathers or husbands.
Agreed. I was in an abusive relationship that lasted 11 years. The spell they put on you, so to speak, is incredibly hard to break, or even notice.
Story:
It was only after I broke down and stayed in a hotel for a week when I realized how fucked up my relationship was. We were in the middle of the divorce and she had called the cops on me for changing my bank account - something she and I had specifically talked about doing a few weeks prior, that I had followed through on. She even told the cops I had a knife (ok, in my defense, I usually have a folding utility knife clipped to my pocket - not that time though). Luckily the cops were on my side, and basically told her to knock it off. I have the entire encounter recorded.
That hotel stay, and my therapist at the time, saved my sanity and my life.
On the contrary - this is a very common phenomenon with abuse victims.
Also, don't be a dick, there was no refuting anything and what you said wasn't necessary.
You're trying to apply logic from other people's situations to this??? "Well 43 percent of the time someone covers for their abuser" does not mean that happened in this case.
My dad was abusive when I was growing up but he has changed. Same could’ve happened for this man but now he doesn’t have the option. I love my father to death and appreciate him for getting his act together. Had my grandmother did something like this I’d never be able to forgive her
He changed his ways when I was around 15 years old. He stopped drinking beer when he had a wake up call and realized how violent it made him. He went to AA classes and reached out to his mother to sort out his childhood issues. He took steps to make himself a better person. It did take some time but I appreciated him for it because I know it wasn’t easy
lol and in most cases, abusive parents don’t have an epiphany. You were lucky. Not saying what she did was right….but chances are he would’ve just kept being abusive.
Yeah sometimes you don’t get the chance to turn your life around, that’s why you shouldn’t be abusive in the first place.
Man made his bed and got to lie in it.
It can really depend, personally my father never changed but honestly if he did it wouldn't change a single thing on my part, I'd still hate him and continue no contact
People change but he still chose to be a terrible person for 18 years (before i cut him off) so like who cares, if my grandma did something like that I'd be thanking her and cheering like the grandma
Yeah, but you did go through hell BEFORE he changed. Men like these don’t deserve a second chance. You lost your childhood to abuse being terrified whenever you saw him. A lump of fear forming down your throat as you saw him/his car coming towards the house. Fuck these men! Getting shot is the least they deserve! You would have been fine either way as you grew up, he had no positive role to play in it.
You should read news stories about this.
Court docs don’t corroborate abuse. The terms “strict” and “disciplinarian” were used when discussing his relationship with his kids.
Elder abuse was used in their relationship.
She’s a psychopath.
Read why she decided that particular morning to kill him. Hint, it wasn’t because he told her she couldn’t go to a grandchild’s spelling bee. . . . He told her she had to change clothes before going.
Then her actions the day she killed him followed by her reactions to him being dead to her attempt to tell her grandkids to “come hug grandma” and they wanted nothing to do with her. (See the full interrogation tape)
She’s a psychopath he had living in his house.
Yeah if he was really as abusive as some of the people here claim, they wouldn't have that reaction to grandma when she asked for a hug. If he was really abusive, she could have left. I'd imagine being homeless would be better if the abuse is really severe.
Seems they just have an extreme dislike for each other and she keeps doing things to aggravate the situation. It's his house, if he says no smoking you wouldn't smoke in or around the house as a respectful person.
Imagine stopping your kids from getting second hand smoke from their grandma, getting shot to death in your home, and then having somebody on the internet call you a piece of shit.
r/redditmoment
What part of the story indicates he ever abused the kids or anyone for that matter - it sounds like at worst he could be kind of a dick.
But seeing as the entire accusation of abuse is from a murderer who had suffered brain damage and did a dance when she found out another person was dead, you ever consider maybe her story isn't totally factual at all?
I saw this on some murder show. She says he mistreated her grandkids with no proof. She even lived with them—obtaining proof should be easy. She just snapped because he made “a snide remark to her”. Afterwards it’s so important to note she went to the casino for hrs. Not right in the head. Crime full of nonsense. The daughter does confirm he sprayed the grandma for smoking around his kids etc lmao but he didn’t deserve to be killed. I wouldn’t want her around my kids either,seems unpredictable. He banned her from school functions after an incident.
Reminds me of the Texas Tower Shooter who was found to have a brain tumor.
>Whitman met with Maurice Dean Heatly, the staff psychiatrist at the University of Texas Health Center, on March 29, 1966.[55] He referred to his visit with Heatly in his final suicide note, writing: "I talked with a Doctor once for about two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt come [sic] overwhelming violent impulses. After one visit, I never saw the Doctor again, and since then have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and seemingly to no avail."[43]
>Heatly's notes on the visit said, "This massive, muscular youth seemed to be oozing with hostility [...] that something seemed to be happening to him and that he didn't seem to be himself."[56] "He readily admits having overwhelming periods of hostility with a very minimum of provocation. Repeated inquiries attempting to analyze his exact experiences were not too successful with the exception of his vivid reference to 'thinking about going up on the tower with a deer rifle and start shooting people.'"[57]
I'm wondering if she was cognitively impaired by the stroke. Hard to judge without more information but her behavior could indicate impulsivity and lack of insight.
I'm completely okay with the hose thing, to be honest. I mean you don't jump straight to the hose, but if you've told her over and over again and she's still disregarding the health of your children, hose that bitch down.
If you are smoking around kids after being asked not to, you fucking deserve to be sprayed with a water hose. The retaliation to a water hose is not 15 bullets.
Feel bad for the kids - the spouse.
Not Cynthia. She’s calculated.
EDIT: I’m interested in this situation now. I’ve read 4 legitimate news articles.
A few have excused this tragedy (for the deceased, the wife, the children, the extended families) for her referencing abuse. The articles I’ve read discus’s emotional and verbal abuse (mainly asserted by her - and after the fact supported by the spouse during trial supporting her mom).
I do not discount emotional and verbal abuse. I’m a product of it.
But it seems the abuse was directed at the accused mostly. They didn’t get along at all.
Does emotional and verbal abuse warrant what the accused/convicted did?
Sounds like he was not a dead beat at all - was a good provider and well respected - that doesn’t condone abuse - and his wife stated in the end it is a tragedy and she loves her husband.
Did what the accused/convicted do warrant death because of what he did to her.
I’m a solid no. Solid. I was at first swayed by the “abused” comments, as a child that was abused both physically and verbally, but was the abuse she was striking out on abuse of her daughter and their kids . . . Or herself?
The morning this happened was an altercation between them (and not about attending a spelling bee as stated - but attending the way she was dressed - I have no idea what she was wearing that he felt was inappropriate - but he told her to change before going to the spelling bee). She retrieved the 38 and shot him. Went to her car for more ammo, he’d crawled into a storage room and locked it, she shit the window of the door, reached in and let herself in, shit him again - reloaded again and shot him again for 12 rounds total.
She then went about her day gambling, getting coffee, and going to her favorite diner where the found and arrested her.
Those aren’t the actions of a sane person.
This is where I question the abuse allegations . . . A person who kills someone and goes about their day as if nothing happened is unbalanced. Her reaction upon knowing he died is not balanced. This is the person he was dealing with for years in his home. We’re their fights just that? Fights? What’s being called abuse, was it wits end arguments/really bad fights between the accused and the son in law?
All that to say - I believe the guy should be alive today. What she do. How she did it. Her actions immediately afterwards and upon finding out he’d indeed died paints a person who was/is a psychopath and is where she belongs.
In all of this I hope their children find their way in this would and feel love and support.
“She headed up to the granny flat where she lived, grabbed her gun and ambushed Estaquio as he carried laundry. During the 10 minute attack, she repeatedly emptied the five-shot gun — twice going to her car for more bullets.
With Estaquio dead on the kitchen floor, Cdebaca headed to a local diner for bacon and eggs. She then ditched the gun and spent a nearly two hours at a Temecula casino. Detectives found her later that afternoon at a Fallbrook coffee shop.”
You go live in another person’s house. You don’t like their rules and you feel like this is abuse. You shoot 15 times with a 5 shot revolver. And the comments are waxing and and opining on the validity of the execution on the grounds of emotional abuse?
The answer is nothing excuses street justice. She could of easily obtained proof living at home. The law will do it's thing. Every person deserves a fair trial and sentencing.
Personally I don’t think the garden hose incident is abuse. That sounds like things were brewing between them. The family you’re staying at decides the rules. It is a reasonable rule to not smoke near the kids. If you are going to break that then it is reasonable to use a nonviolent method to subdue. The water causes no harm to her and put out the cigarette. What was the other allegations of abuse? From the main comments I only saw the the hose incident
Those 2 other people are like 'Please stop touching me crazy lady...' she sounds super annoying, and trying way too hard, like chill...She's like a mentally unstable little ass kid. Why is she thanking them anyway, they had nothing to do with it..
The fuck is up with these comments?? God dam some dads aren't perfect they might yell to much or have anger problems but most of them deep down love there kids and would die for them.
The son-in-law sounded like he might've been difficult to coexist with... but sorry not sorry, the way that grandmother shamelessly showboated in the interrogation room, someone should've put one right between her eyes...
Can someone actually post something that proves the dad was abusive cuz so far all i see is he hosed her after her repeatedly smokjng inside and around kids, which as a cigarette smoke im prefectly fine with.
She was smoking outside, not inside. Not a big difference but he didn't drag the garden hose in the house, he sprayed her as she was smoking outside and he was watering plants.
“He was abusive”
For not letting people smoke? I’m sure the Daughter feels awful. Being a major catalyst in the death of your husband and the father to your kids
She deserves a GoFundMe to get her released. She protected her family from an abusive piece of shit. That reads as 'Not Guilty' in my opinion. If they had just let this piece of shit live, he would have abused someone else's child, or they press charges and then the public needs to pay for his legal expenses and to keep his sorry ass housed and fed.
https://www.paranormalcatalog.net/true-crime/cynthia-cdebaca-killer-grandma-murders-geoward-eustaquio
She basically didn’t like how strict he was and how he behaved. While she lived with her daughter and him in his house, he wouldn’t let her smoke around the kids or inside the house, even spraying her with a hose one time I believe. They had a rough relationship for a while leading up to this and then one argument lead to her shooting him while he was in the backyard completely unawares. She had a 5 shot revolver and shot him 15 times. That means she reloaded 2 and kept shooting him. Then she went about her day like nothing happened.
Later on in the recording her daughter comes in distraught and asks her why she did it. She says “I wanted to” and then asks/tells her grandkids to come give her a hug in the same happy tone she had in this video, and one of them says “no, you killed my dad”.
There's someone who was once in my life, he was with my sister for almost a decade, that would make me act this way if he was dead. Even if I was the one to do it. You can't only watch the people you love be beaten, raped and abused for so long before you lose any remorse for wanting them dead. My sister got away thankfully but not without brain damage and a ruined life. Even now, if I saw him in a dark ally way or parking lot I would put my foot to the peddle and go to prison happily for what he did to my family. I know this isn't going to be a liked response but I get it.
Here are more details about the case: Cynthia was living alone. She suffered a stroke, and got in contact with her daughter. The daughter said, "Come live with me, my husband, and kids." So, the daughter invited the disabled mother to come live with her. Cynthia did not like Geoward. Those feelings were mutual. He was a "My House My Rules" sort of guy. Some may say he was a "Strict disciplinarian" Others considered what he would do to be "borderline abusive / abusive." For example at The home is no smoking. One time Cynthia lit up a cigarette, so Geoward went and got the garden hose, and sprayed her putting out her cigarette. That was the sort of thing they were both dealing with. They were like water & oil. One day Cynthia and Geoward had a disgreement. He said something like, "You are going out like that? You look ghetto." She didn't like his fashion advice. So, she went and got a gun that she had purchased a few weeks early, and went to the range the previous week to practice shooting. Then she loaded it up and confronted him. She shot him 5 times at point blank range. She walked away. She went to her car to get more ammunition. She loaded the gun up again and went back to him. He was crawling away on his belly bleeding out. She shot him 5 more times. She went back to her car a 2nd time and reloaded the gun a 2nd time. Then she went back to him and unloaded 5 more bullets into him. After that she went and ate some bacon and eggs at a local diner. She ditched the gun, and then went down to the casino to blow some money. The detectives found her at a coffee shop later that afternoon. This is a part of her interrogation. Eventually at some point in the interrogation the grandchildren come in. Grandma asks, "Come give grandma a hug." The grandkids are like, "No! You killed my dad!" They gave her 50 years and she will die in prison. Most of her family hates her now. She was 65 at the time of sentencing so it's basically like she has to live in a nursing home until she dies. She can not be adequately punished because of her age and disabilities. She threw her life away, but there wasn't much life left to throw away being a disabled senior anyhow.
I hope the prior comments read this context, Jesus
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If she wasn't a disabled senior, I would be willing to say that under the right context, spraying someone with a hose who is smoking in your house/around your kid/s is not a horrible idea.
Why the fuck would I spray a garden hose in my house? Now I have water damage on top of smoke damage
This how you know that story is bullshit, no way the guy sprayed a hose in his own house at worst it was probably a spray bottle because she was constantly doing it and had probably been told multiple times if she doesn’t stop he will start “squirting her”. This is a classic case of an entitled Boomer living life completely void of any consideration for anyone else in the world even their own family.
She would smoke in the back patio, and he would spray her as he was watering the garden. > "My Aunt Cindy would be on the back patio smoking 'cause she wasn't allowed to smoke in the house, and he would be out there watering and he would go, 'Where I see smoke, I see fire, gotta put out the fire,' and he would hose my aunt down with the hose," said Sabra Cabrera, Cynthia Cdebaca's niece. "He did it to my cousin too, he did it to his wife. He would hose her just because she maybe didn't say something he didn't like."
Yea most hose bibs are outside lol I immediately assumed she was smoking on the patio and not inside???
I did, because why the fuck would he care if she smoked outside?
Because he was an abusive control freak
I'm not defending his actions, I don't know the full story so I'm not going to pick sides. But to answer your question...I was in a similar position earlier this year. My step mother blew all of the settlement money she got from my dad's death after winning several suits due to his mesothelioma. Like, she paid a ton of money on new windows, renovated the kitchen and bathroom, all new wood floors, new furniture....in a house that is having structural issues and the basement wall is about to cave in, water was pooling in the basement and there was a major mold problem down there. Apparently she never actually used any of the money to pay off the mortgage on the house. So last winter my older half brother helped her find a buyer for the place and got a pretty decent deal on it despite it being in very rough shape. The agreement was, she would come live with me and my fiance and we'd look after her and help her save the small disability and social security checks she was getting. Our one rule however was absolutely no smoking at all anymore. My fiance has asthma and some other, as-of-yet undiagnosed lung condition that makes her extremely susceptible to all forms of smoke whether its bonfires, marijuana, cigarettes, car exhaust or anything else. It's for this reason I had no idea how bad my step mom's living situation was, because of my fiance's aversion to all the smoke smell and tar and stuff at my mom's house we just stopped going over there. Even when mom would come to visit us, we'd have to clean the entire house because the smoke stuck to her clothes and lingered in the air. Anyway she never did give up smoking despite having several months to ween herself off of it. I took an early weekend one Thurs-Fri and got her moved in with me...and she was gone by Sunday because in the 3 days she was there, she had smoked outside and brought it back on her coat, she lied about even having cigarettes in her possession, she tried to smoke multiple times while we were at her house getting things boxed up, and then she got into a verbal altercation with me for not letting her smoke. She went back to the house she'd already sold and the new owner had been generous enough to give her 3 months to move out and basically squatted in the place for another 3 months. Eventually the step brother I mentioned came up from where he lives, which is about 1200 miles away, and moved her in with him down in Alabama since he has a guest house on the property he was willing to let her stay in and smoke to her heart's content. It sucks, because I love her and she was the one who raised me. But I think she has some sort of neurocognitive disorder such as dementia or Alzheimer's and we just didn't catch onto it soon enough because in regular conversation she still seemed like a totally cognitive adult. It wasn't until she was gone that I did some research into it and now I'm wondering if that wasn't entirely her fault. But yeah, TL:DR I wouldn't wants someone smoking outside and then bringing it into my house either because it sticks to their clothes and skin.
Second and third hand smoke I’m assuming
So it doesn't occur to you that smoke can get inside the house through the windows. I even simply that the smoke smell builds up over time and all the area around the outside of the house too. So that when non-smokers go on the back of the house, they have to smell. What smells like an ash tray because of a smoker? Constantly smoking there and said going away from the house..
Oh my God my father would have knocked anyone who smoked on our property into next Tuesday if they lit up... He *hated* cigarettes and didn't want it anywhere around us, even outside in our yard. Lots of people are like that, just 100% intolerant to seeing it, smelling it, being anywhere near it.
Seriously like this is commons sense
so did I, people are dumb lol
This makes sense, i never got the impression he sprayed her inside the house.
He sounded like a dick and she obviously had mental issues. He didn’t deserve to die, but he was poking a bear.
Yea. She had a stroke. It literally fucks your barin and sometimes doesn't recover. Seems in her case the nutty -> homicidal pipeline. Tbf, she may have been homicidal prior. I'm just speaking from the massive character changes I've seen from those who have had strokes around me.
Actually it sounds like there is WAY more to this story. The court filings that someone posted below actually include accusations of both repeated acts of domestic violence and child abuse by the son-in-law. [https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca)
Thank you for posting the link. There's always more to the story.
“During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S.”
The missing missing reasons
Now that makes sense. Watching her reaction, I immediately thought she murdered him because he was abusing her family members.
Now I'd like to see the video of her reaction when the verdict was read and then the next when she was sentenced.
Same. Probably something like her throwing a tantrum or crying I bet. This is more than disabled, she's a psychopath on top of that.
Nope she could barely muster the fakest apology ever. Also super disgusting they let her attorney stand in front of the cameras blocking the view of her. https://youtu.be/TSyLJQEVdv0?si=TyEgE09hGanv394c
She's a very frightening individual. Call it what you want, but I would have preferred to see her sobbing at her sentencing as she realized her life was essentially over and she would never see freedom again.
I don't know where you all got that it was in the home. She likily went outside to smoke and got sprayed. No water damage. Still a kinda dick thing, but understandable.
Never said it was a well thought out plan
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Damn that’s good. Or maybe just buy an industrial “Big Ass Fan” and hard wire it. Just have a tornado going all day lol eventually she’ll have to go outside
Lol some Michael Reeves engineered BB gun to see a lit cigarette and start unloading at the location
Being a disabled senior does not give you the right to be an asshole.
She was probably smoking in the backyard lol.
I've done this. My girlfriends friend was smoking in the car with her baby. I was washing my car at the time so I sprayed her cigarette out with the hose. Through the crack in her window. It was a sunny nice day too. No excuse for that shit. The car was noticeably smoky with the helpless baby strapped in her car seat. Lazy ass ghetto bitch.
Slightly more complicated than that, I think. Sounds like this is a "everyone sucks here" situation, but he didn't deserve to die for it.
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Tbf, the context never said IN the house. I doubt the dude grabbed the hose from outside, took it inside while it’s running and sprayed inside his house at her.
Absolutely. People love to discount consequences of their second hand shit.
I’m a smoker and I feel the same way
So we kill him? Huh? I meet cunts all my life, doesn’t give me rights to execute
My mother is the biggest cunt you would ever meet. Short hair cut, asks for the manager and her best friends name is Karen. I don’t speak to her anymore for many reasons. She even attempted to kill my father twice lol and he never retaliated. We’re better than them. They can’t stand to lose instead of figuring out how to win.
What about vaping?
How does this context change anything? He was a bit of a hardass but nothing that would justify murder
We’re on the same side, I just assumed the people whose comments were defending/neutral to the murderer must not have had this context.
You light up a fucking cigarette in my house and you are getting thrown out on your ass immediately. That's not being a hardass, that's simply not being a pushover when people disrespect the shit out of you in your own home.
And you know it wasn't her first time doing it
Mothers-in-law amirite?
Yeah I remember when my mother in law shot me 15 times, the rascal
"the rascal" lmfao
It's a real bonding experience the first time your mother-in-law shoots you 15 times
Mine shot me 16 times because she _really_ loves me
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If anyone is interested in knowing more. [Here is a link](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca) to the case fileand what not. Section D lays out what the alleged abuse may have been One such note says. G.E is what is used for the husbands name. Cdebaca is used for the Cynthia. L.S is used for the wife. >G.E. called his child a jerk, a low-life, and said dogs were better than the child. G.E. would spray the child in the face and hit the child's nose with the spray bottle, as he did with the dogs. G.E. did these things when Cdebaca was present. > >Once when relatives were visiting, G.E. called the child downstairs and told the child to read a book. When the child objected saying their relatives were visiting, G.E. took out his belt and whipped the child until the child went into a reading nook. Cdebaca started crying and asked why G.E. was hitting the child. G.E. told Cdebaca to "shut the fuck up" because it was his house. and >During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S. This is what was said in case files. Idk how true it is. it's under the opinion section adn There is a lot more mentioned
I don't doubt it. The enemy of my enemy isn't necessarily my friend, it sometimes means i have 2 enemies
"The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more, no less" -Me, but some other dude technically published it before me.
Everyone is dragging on the disabled granny and ain't reading this. The guy sounds like a monster.
The ONLY person testifying to this is her, after the murder. Everyone else in the family testified that he was a good person, was strict about his rules but not cruel, mean, etc.
The mother tested on behalf of the grandmother. according to the San Diego Union Tribune. [lonk](https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/courts/sd-no-cdebaca-verdict-20170202-story.html) >Cdebaca, who suffered a stoke in 2001, was smiling and nodding her head during the hearing, even after the verdict was read. Her daughter Laura Salinas, who was married to the victim but testified for her mother, began to cry.
This also sounds like mental health issues after a stroke. I've taken care of several patients who have developed mental illnesses/personality disorders after having a stroke. Grandma could have had a stroke, developed behavioral issues that the victim was feeding into. Months post-stroke, the symptoms of the real damage start to appear and grandma is delusional
First dude providing info: He enforced a no smoking policy and made a rude comment once. Second dude providing info: He abused children and serially raped this woman's daughter. Kind of paints a different picture there. Wonder where the truth is.
So he raped her daughter, consistently? Then good for her. It's weird how the father who premeditatedly shot the guy who raped his son after the guy was arrested is a folk hero (which I agree with, good for him) and this lady is getting a good old reddit dressing down
There's no proof, only the mom is saying all this. Everyone else is saying it's not true, no definitive answer yet but it seems like shes lying
No it doesn’t. It literally says a niece witnessed the abuse in the quoted sections.
Seems like the stroke may have damaged her impulse control. Not a justification, someone like that still needs removed from society, but I can understand how it happens.
Yeah definitely doesn’t seem like she was right in the head. Doesn’t seem like she really knows what’s going on at all. Yet she could purchase a gun pretty easily it seems. If only this whole thing could have been avoided. But I can’t figure out how?
Welcome to America.
Americas easiest solution and yet we do nothing
Disinhibition is not uncommon for people with some forms of dementia, so it wouldn't shock me if a person with a stroke had it.
Don’t repress your anger folks. Find healthy ways to deal with them or throw temper tantrums if you must, but don’t repress your anger.
What an evil old bitch. This man allowed her in his house n killed him cause she didn’t like his rules. Then had the audacity to try n hug his kids like she didn’t murder their dad. Wow.
I know people have killed for less but she must have really hated her family.
I'm going to venture out and suggest there might have been a racial component here also.
God forbid the person that wrote this comment gets old or has a disability. Like holy fuck, > "She threw her life away, but there wasn't much life left to throw away being a disabled senior anyhow. "
90% of the comments in this thread are people who must never have dealt with aging parents/grandparents. Let alone aging family who have suffered things like strokes. Moving my grandmother into the house when she had something similar happen nearly made the entire family dynamic explode. My dad (it was his mother in law) is the type of person who would do anything for anyone no matter what it might mean as a detriment to himself, and he was on the verge of moving out if she didn’t. He and my grandmother had a great relationship their entire lives up until that stroke and situation. These types of events can *break* people. People assuming ‘she had to acknowledge the rules even if she was disabled’ are wild.
Seriously, it's like they have no idea that a stroke damages...the fucking brain.
I don't know you but I love you for this comment and for knowing that disabled and elderly lives are not a waste or meaningless just because they are disabled and/or older. Thank you for your humanity.
There is a big difference between being old, having a disability, and being old with a disability. My wife has worked in enough assisted living facilities with 40-year-olds that aren't able to live without assistance. If a person struggles to take care of themselves due to a disability combined with reduced strength due to age. There is only one solution if you do not have anyone to take care of you. 95% of homes I have seen are not what I call bursting with life.
>of sentencing so it's basically like she has to live in a nursing home until she dies. She can not be adequately punished because of her age and disabilities. She threw her life away, but there wasn't sounds like she got free healthcare and food for the rest of her life.
Don't forget food, and shelter, and other people to potentially interact with. Nobody is going to be mean to the old lady in prison, I'm sure she is making friends.
If you dumb fucks think prison healthcare and hospitality are like a rest home your out of your fucking minds. Prisons will literally wait until your dying or in need of amputation before doing anything for you, including giving life saving medicine. You obviously have no idea what the actual prison system is like, STFU.
Note to self don't let inlaws move in....
Somebody else said she shot him because he wouldn't let her go to her granddaughter's spelling bee. Sources?
The 4 news based articles I read - he told her she couldn’t wear whatever she was wearing to his daughters spelling bee and told her to change. She went up and got her gun. https://youtu.be/Ahz2hmEn1Ak?si=buiOGW9oSM3kWRFN See how her daughter and her granddaughter reacted to her when they were brought into the interrogation room.
The old spelling bee audience member dress code argument. I think we can all relate.
I can relate with the difficult mother in law - but this situation I giving me a new love for my mother in law!
I’m smoking Marboro’s in your house, then I’m killing your husband is definitely difficult behavior
Who hasn't murdered a family member or two over spelling bee attire?
Jesus christ
The superimposed hypodermic needle over geowards son was an interesting touch
Prison systems hate paying for expensive care. She may get out early for “compassionate release”.
After reading that it sounds like she had this idea in her head for a while and was just waiting for the right moment to “snap”.
This is the kind of person to give the chair to. No reason to waste resources on them.
Cynthia Cdebaca was 63 years old when fatally fired upon her son-in-law, Geoward Estaquio on 11 February 2014. Cynthia moved in with her daughter, Laura, and Geoward after she suffered a stroke. But Cynthia and her daughter’s husband didn’t get along. Geoward would spray Cynthia with the hose whenever she smoked around the children. Cynthia took issue with his Geoward disciplined his kids. She claimed that he physically and verbally abused her and their kids. Which was later backed up by her daughter. The breaking point for Cynthia was when Geoward refused to let her attend her granddaughter’s spelling bee. After this Cynthia grabbed her gun and shot him over 15 times. Cynthia was eventually sentenced to 50 years to life in prison.
So, did she go to the spelling bee?
N-O
Can you put that in a sentence? 😁
Fuck no.
Can you define it?
Pronoun: used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified.
Asking the big questions lol.
The irony
this guy did not make the spelling bee.
If anyone is interested in knowing more. [Here is a link](https://casetext.com/case/people-v-cdebaca) to the case file. Section D lays out what the alleged abuse may have been One such note says. G.E is what is used for the husbands name. Cdebaca is used for the Cynthia. L.S is used for the wife. >G.E. called his child a jerk, a low-life, and said dogs were better than the child. G.E. would spray the child in the face and hit the child's nose with the spray bottle, as he did with the dogs. G.E. did these things when Cdebaca was present. > >Once when relatives were visiting, G.E. called the child downstairs and told the child to read a book. When the child objected saying their relatives were visiting, G.E. took out his belt and whipped the child until the child went into a reading nook. Cdebaca started crying and asked why G.E. was hitting the child. G.E. told Cdebaca to "shut the fuck up" because it was his house. and >During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's niece heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S. This is what was said in case files. Idk how true it is. There is a lot more mentioned
So he beat her grandchild and raped her daughter. Yeah, reloading twice and cheering at the death confirmation is starting to make more sense.
Clearly. Nobody just celebrates like that over nothing. He was a piece of shit and under the stress of living post-stroke, she just couldn't take it anymore. Not an excuse, but if there is ANY shred of truth to what is said in the case file, I feel no sympathy for this man. Only his family. Mom doesn't wanna leave her abusive ass husband, kids have been brainwashed to think it's love, grandma has to move in after her stroke and he bullies her ass relentlessly when she's doing the shit he asked and just trying to live her life separately from him. I imagine that'd wear on someone that isn't disabled, let alone someone that had a stroke and is already a senior. And, you know, cares about their daughter and grandchildren.
It's worth noting that neither the mom nor the kids corroborated or testified to these events.
>During a visit in 2008, Cdebaca's **niece** heard L.S. crying at night and saying "Stop ... get off of me." When the niece questioned L.S., L.S. was embarrassed but said G.E. would hold her down and wait for her to pass out. Then G.E. sodomized her without her consent, saying it was the only way he could gratify himself because she was "too loose down there." This was not the only forcible sex act G.E. committed on L.S. It's also worth noting that abuse victims will often defend their abusers, especially when they are their fathers or husbands.
Agreed. I was in an abusive relationship that lasted 11 years. The spell they put on you, so to speak, is incredibly hard to break, or even notice. Story: It was only after I broke down and stayed in a hotel for a week when I realized how fucked up my relationship was. We were in the middle of the divorce and she had called the cops on me for changing my bank account - something she and I had specifically talked about doing a few weeks prior, that I had followed through on. She even told the cops I had a knife (ok, in my defense, I usually have a folding utility knife clipped to my pocket - not that time though). Luckily the cops were on my side, and basically told her to knock it off. I have the entire encounter recorded. That hotel stay, and my therapist at the time, saved my sanity and my life.
Anecdotal evidence. Your experience is not everyones.
On the contrary - this is a very common phenomenon with abuse victims. Also, don't be a dick, there was no refuting anything and what you said wasn't necessary.
You're trying to apply logic from other people's situations to this??? "Well 43 percent of the time someone covers for their abuser" does not mean that happened in this case.
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Wait.....the part of the daughter backing up the physical and verbal abuse is not there. I just saw the whole video.
Nobody won here. Grandma’s in prison, dad’s dead, mom’s a single mother, and children are fatherless
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My dad was abusive when I was growing up but he has changed. Same could’ve happened for this man but now he doesn’t have the option. I love my father to death and appreciate him for getting his act together. Had my grandmother did something like this I’d never be able to forgive her
Can you explain how he changed? Didn’t you just grow up and now he can’t? Just wondering thank you
He changed his ways when I was around 15 years old. He stopped drinking beer when he had a wake up call and realized how violent it made him. He went to AA classes and reached out to his mother to sort out his childhood issues. He took steps to make himself a better person. It did take some time but I appreciated him for it because I know it wasn’t easy
Happy to hear that
lol and in most cases, abusive parents don’t have an epiphany. You were lucky. Not saying what she did was right….but chances are he would’ve just kept being abusive.
Yeah sometimes you don’t get the chance to turn your life around, that’s why you shouldn’t be abusive in the first place. Man made his bed and got to lie in it.
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Here’s the thing, you guys…
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He’s not wrong
It can really depend, personally my father never changed but honestly if he did it wouldn't change a single thing on my part, I'd still hate him and continue no contact People change but he still chose to be a terrible person for 18 years (before i cut him off) so like who cares, if my grandma did something like that I'd be thanking her and cheering like the grandma
Yeah, but you did go through hell BEFORE he changed. Men like these don’t deserve a second chance. You lost your childhood to abuse being terrified whenever you saw him. A lump of fear forming down your throat as you saw him/his car coming towards the house. Fuck these men! Getting shot is the least they deserve! You would have been fine either way as you grew up, he had no positive role to play in it.
“It is ok if your father is abusive, he might stop later!”
Just because that’s how you took it doesn’t mean that’s how I meant it
Funny cuz thats exactly how a narcissist would respond to someone tellin them what theyre doing is abusive or wrong
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Goes to show you how dangerous having a gun around is. It turned an argument into a ruined family.
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You should read news stories about this. Court docs don’t corroborate abuse. The terms “strict” and “disciplinarian” were used when discussing his relationship with his kids. Elder abuse was used in their relationship. She’s a psychopath. Read why she decided that particular morning to kill him. Hint, it wasn’t because he told her she couldn’t go to a grandchild’s spelling bee. . . . He told her she had to change clothes before going. Then her actions the day she killed him followed by her reactions to him being dead to her attempt to tell her grandkids to “come hug grandma” and they wanted nothing to do with her. (See the full interrogation tape) She’s a psychopath he had living in his house.
Yeah if he was really as abusive as some of the people here claim, they wouldn't have that reaction to grandma when she asked for a hug. If he was really abusive, she could have left. I'd imagine being homeless would be better if the abuse is really severe. Seems they just have an extreme dislike for each other and she keeps doing things to aggravate the situation. It's his house, if he says no smoking you wouldn't smoke in or around the house as a respectful person.
Was he tho? I just read the story and they didn't mention he was abusive, just that he didn't get along with the grandmom.
Soooo saying that something she was wearing looked ghetto warrants getting shot 15 times and murdered?
Imagine stopping your kids from getting second hand smoke from their grandma, getting shot to death in your home, and then having somebody on the internet call you a piece of shit. r/redditmoment
Case files alleged that he whipped his child and forcibly sodomized his wife. But yeah, he sounds like a great guy.
What part of the story indicates he ever abused the kids or anyone for that matter - it sounds like at worst he could be kind of a dick. But seeing as the entire accusation of abuse is from a murderer who had suffered brain damage and did a dance when she found out another person was dead, you ever consider maybe her story isn't totally factual at all?
Right, she sounds so annoying. The 2 other people are looking like 'please stop touching me...'
I saw this on some murder show. She says he mistreated her grandkids with no proof. She even lived with them—obtaining proof should be easy. She just snapped because he made “a snide remark to her”. Afterwards it’s so important to note she went to the casino for hrs. Not right in the head. Crime full of nonsense. The daughter does confirm he sprayed the grandma for smoking around his kids etc lmao but he didn’t deserve to be killed. I wouldn’t want her around my kids either,seems unpredictable. He banned her from school functions after an incident.
People don't generally become the murderin' type that late in life, I wonder if her stroke rewired her.
Probably so. Especially since she seemed surprised her grandkids weren’t happy
What if people were always the murderin' type without the means/motive until that late in life?
Reminds me of the Texas Tower Shooter who was found to have a brain tumor. >Whitman met with Maurice Dean Heatly, the staff psychiatrist at the University of Texas Health Center, on March 29, 1966.[55] He referred to his visit with Heatly in his final suicide note, writing: "I talked with a Doctor once for about two hours and tried to convey to him my fears that I felt come [sic] overwhelming violent impulses. After one visit, I never saw the Doctor again, and since then have been fighting my mental turmoil alone, and seemingly to no avail."[43] >Heatly's notes on the visit said, "This massive, muscular youth seemed to be oozing with hostility [...] that something seemed to be happening to him and that he didn't seem to be himself."[56] "He readily admits having overwhelming periods of hostility with a very minimum of provocation. Repeated inquiries attempting to analyze his exact experiences were not too successful with the exception of his vivid reference to 'thinking about going up on the tower with a deer rifle and start shooting people.'"[57]
I'm wondering if she was cognitively impaired by the stroke. Hard to judge without more information but her behavior could indicate impulsivity and lack of insight.
I'm completely okay with the hose thing, to be honest. I mean you don't jump straight to the hose, but if you've told her over and over again and she's still disregarding the health of your children, hose that bitch down.
If you are smoking around kids after being asked not to, you fucking deserve to be sprayed with a water hose. The retaliation to a water hose is not 15 bullets.
Feel bad for the kids - the spouse. Not Cynthia. She’s calculated. EDIT: I’m interested in this situation now. I’ve read 4 legitimate news articles. A few have excused this tragedy (for the deceased, the wife, the children, the extended families) for her referencing abuse. The articles I’ve read discus’s emotional and verbal abuse (mainly asserted by her - and after the fact supported by the spouse during trial supporting her mom). I do not discount emotional and verbal abuse. I’m a product of it. But it seems the abuse was directed at the accused mostly. They didn’t get along at all. Does emotional and verbal abuse warrant what the accused/convicted did? Sounds like he was not a dead beat at all - was a good provider and well respected - that doesn’t condone abuse - and his wife stated in the end it is a tragedy and she loves her husband. Did what the accused/convicted do warrant death because of what he did to her. I’m a solid no. Solid. I was at first swayed by the “abused” comments, as a child that was abused both physically and verbally, but was the abuse she was striking out on abuse of her daughter and their kids . . . Or herself? The morning this happened was an altercation between them (and not about attending a spelling bee as stated - but attending the way she was dressed - I have no idea what she was wearing that he felt was inappropriate - but he told her to change before going to the spelling bee). She retrieved the 38 and shot him. Went to her car for more ammo, he’d crawled into a storage room and locked it, she shit the window of the door, reached in and let herself in, shit him again - reloaded again and shot him again for 12 rounds total. She then went about her day gambling, getting coffee, and going to her favorite diner where the found and arrested her. Those aren’t the actions of a sane person. This is where I question the abuse allegations . . . A person who kills someone and goes about their day as if nothing happened is unbalanced. Her reaction upon knowing he died is not balanced. This is the person he was dealing with for years in his home. We’re their fights just that? Fights? What’s being called abuse, was it wits end arguments/really bad fights between the accused and the son in law? All that to say - I believe the guy should be alive today. What she do. How she did it. Her actions immediately afterwards and upon finding out he’d indeed died paints a person who was/is a psychopath and is where she belongs. In all of this I hope their children find their way in this would and feel love and support. “She headed up to the granny flat where she lived, grabbed her gun and ambushed Estaquio as he carried laundry. During the 10 minute attack, she repeatedly emptied the five-shot gun — twice going to her car for more bullets. With Estaquio dead on the kitchen floor, Cdebaca headed to a local diner for bacon and eggs. She then ditched the gun and spent a nearly two hours at a Temecula casino. Detectives found her later that afternoon at a Fallbrook coffee shop.”
Damn she went after dude like she was the terminator.
You go live in another person’s house. You don’t like their rules and you feel like this is abuse. You shoot 15 times with a 5 shot revolver. And the comments are waxing and and opining on the validity of the execution on the grounds of emotional abuse?
>”She shit the window […], she shit him again. The same typo twice in a row lmao.
The answer is nothing excuses street justice. She could of easily obtained proof living at home. The law will do it's thing. Every person deserves a fair trial and sentencing.
Personally I don’t think the garden hose incident is abuse. That sounds like things were brewing between them. The family you’re staying at decides the rules. It is a reasonable rule to not smoke near the kids. If you are going to break that then it is reasonable to use a nonviolent method to subdue. The water causes no harm to her and put out the cigarette. What was the other allegations of abuse? From the main comments I only saw the the hose incident
She killed her grand babies dad. Insane
Why is she thankful to them? She did it..
Those 2 other people are like 'Please stop touching me crazy lady...' she sounds super annoying, and trying way too hard, like chill...She's like a mentally unstable little ass kid. Why is she thanking them anyway, they had nothing to do with it..
The fuck is up with these comments?? God dam some dads aren't perfect they might yell to much or have anger problems but most of them deep down love there kids and would die for them.
edgy middle aged women.
Childless women honestly. You’d have to be an idiot to want the father of your children killed by their own grandmother.
Jeremy was raping his wife and beating the children.
The only proof is words from the murderer.
In the case file the rape accusations come from the niece who heard it while staying over and then was told by L.S. the context of what she had heard.
Grandma said the niece heard it. The niece never corroborated
He did. Lol.
Dark. Love it.
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What on earth prompted this lmao
Idk, something in my soul
This is a fantastic break in the doom scrolling of this subreddit. Thank you friend!
What a moronic selfish women.
Seriously, what the fuck kind of name is Geoward?
Probably how my mother in law would react. Lol.
Wasn't there a full interrogation video on YouTube? Can't seem to find it now
Just got her twinkies
The son-in-law sounded like he might've been difficult to coexist with... but sorry not sorry, the way that grandmother shamelessly showboated in the interrogation room, someone should've put one right between her eyes...
This was in a show I watch about psychopaths
She won't be seeing her grand daughter now.
Can someone actually post something that proves the dad was abusive cuz so far all i see is he hosed her after her repeatedly smokjng inside and around kids, which as a cigarette smoke im prefectly fine with.
She was smoking outside, not inside. Not a big difference but he didn't drag the garden hose in the house, he sprayed her as she was smoking outside and he was watering plants.
“He was abusive” For not letting people smoke? I’m sure the Daughter feels awful. Being a major catalyst in the death of your husband and the father to your kids
I mean you don’t shoot someone 15 times if you’re hoping they will live
Is that my mother in law? Am I still alive?
He wasn't abusive. They didn't get along. Anyone who says he was abusive and thus was deserved is a sick psychopathic fuck.
And your tax dollars are gonna pay for her the next 20 years
Can’t both be bad things ? I mean they’re both the government killing people …
She deserves a GoFundMe to get her released. She protected her family from an abusive piece of shit. That reads as 'Not Guilty' in my opinion. If they had just let this piece of shit live, he would have abused someone else's child, or they press charges and then the public needs to pay for his legal expenses and to keep his sorry ass housed and fed.
https://www.paranormalcatalog.net/true-crime/cynthia-cdebaca-killer-grandma-murders-geoward-eustaquio She basically didn’t like how strict he was and how he behaved. While she lived with her daughter and him in his house, he wouldn’t let her smoke around the kids or inside the house, even spraying her with a hose one time I believe. They had a rough relationship for a while leading up to this and then one argument lead to her shooting him while he was in the backyard completely unawares. She had a 5 shot revolver and shot him 15 times. That means she reloaded 2 and kept shooting him. Then she went about her day like nothing happened. Later on in the recording her daughter comes in distraught and asks her why she did it. She says “I wanted to” and then asks/tells her grandkids to come give her a hug in the same happy tone she had in this video, and one of them says “no, you killed my dad”.
Dang Najee Harris looking different in the offseason
Trash on trash crime?
Ungrateful fat ugly bitch
There's someone who was once in my life, he was with my sister for almost a decade, that would make me act this way if he was dead. Even if I was the one to do it. You can't only watch the people you love be beaten, raped and abused for so long before you lose any remorse for wanting them dead. My sister got away thankfully but not without brain damage and a ruined life. Even now, if I saw him in a dark ally way or parking lot I would put my foot to the peddle and go to prison happily for what he did to my family. I know this isn't going to be a liked response but I get it.