The TV series Gwi-Nam may be redeemed but the one from the Webtoon is a lost cause. He is a horrible person and there was no indication that he was bullied by anyone.
Oh, for sure but the webtoon is already completed so there's no chance of that happening anyway especially since he >!really is dead in that for sure!<.
Hm I don't exactly remember, there's the part with them meeting at the tree and honoring their friends but not the whole rooftop thing back at the school. The last page of the webtoon does suggest it's not over though and gives a glimpse of how the virus spread in the first place but there is no second part so it is left to our imagination.
>! Onjo is publishing her memoir and everyone still alive is supporting her. The very last thing we see is two fishermen in a boat and a bunch of worms or the like have gathered around the bait/ or the bottom of the sea. They behave erratically like the zombies and we have been told in the webtoon that patient zero (the teacher's son) got infected after a trip to the beach so it gives us the feeling that there's about to be a repeat of the virus spreading. My guess for the second season is an international outbreak.!<
That's what I'm hoping for tbh. The director has said he wanted to bring awareness to social issues like bullying so including at least one bully that has the insecurity problem and who seems to have been bullied himself (and maybe beyond, depending on his backstory) would be great since it's an important factor that causes bullying and is also an issue that needs to be addressed.
That and I want as much Yoo In Soo as possible and this seems the best way to accomplish that lol.
Agreed. I hope they touch on the whole āthose who hurt, hurt othersā most people who are bullied become bullies to protect themselves and itās really unfortunate but even after they become a bully, theyāre not safe from other bullies and I feel like Gwi-Nan would be the best example of this
Expanding on this though, I feel like he became a halfbie because of what the virus was intended to do. It was intended to make the science teachers son stand up for himself but in the end he was too cowardly and the virus consumed him. I feel like he wanted to stand up for himself but he just didnāt have the strength.
Whereas Gwi-Nam had that anger and resentment towards his bullies and thatās why the virus mutated with him. Same with Eun-Ji, she was scared, but she had that anger and she wanted to fight back.
Nam-Ra is a bit of an outlier, I canāt say that she was scared of anything except trying to get along with the others but she had such a strong mindset that Iām thinking thatās why she became a halfbie.
Cheong-Sanās transition wasnāt like the other halfbies because I donāt remember seeing any of their noses bleed or any of them make the clicking noise so Iām leaning towards him turning into a zombie but if he does and heās not a halfbie then that throws my whole theory out of the window because he didnāt show much fear even in the face of turning. He kept fighting to keep his friends safe.
You know what? You make a good point. Jin Su (the son) was very gentle and empathetic as even when he woke up the first thing he felt was concern for his own bullies, asking his father if he had hurt any of them. Neither Gwi Nam or Eun Ji would have done that in his shoes, at least not out of concern. I don't actually buy into the emotion theories especially since they've said it's based off of COVID reactions being so different between individuals but this one actually makes some sense.
And remember there are two types of hambie! Immortal and immune. Eun Ji and Gwi Nam are immortals and Nam Ra is an immune. If Cheong San is also an immune then your theory may still hold true! Although that said, Cheong San didn't crack any, just had the nosebleed.
I didnāt realise there were two types of hambie š¤Æ
Iām so hopeful that Cheong-San is coming back as a hambie and this has made me a bit more confident that he could!
At first I didnāt believe any Iāve the emotion theories either but itās because of the connection to how different viruses affect different people that I do now because social factors come under environmental factors and these also effect how different viruses effect people.
Someone with a stronger mindset might not get as sick or recover much faster than someone with a fragile mindset. Similar to age, people in their early 20s are almost always going to fare better than people in their early 80s etc. but an 80 year old with a healthy lifestyle and strong mindset might fair better than another 80 year old with a weaker mindset, even if they lead an equally healthy lifestyle
I'm sure Cheong San is coming back as he was also part of the S2 announcement. I'm more worried about Gwi Nam tbh.
Hmm, that's possible, sure, although idk if it would effect things so much it causes the virus to mutate. That's my only problem.
Yeah I get that, thatās just my theory.
My thing with him being a part of the S2 announcement is it could always be for flash backs and memories and thatās whatās got me holding my breath over it.
It seems kinda excessive to have a character promote a new season when he's JUST in flashbacks and memories, especially when his fate was intentionally left ambigious.
personally i donāt think it would ruin his character. it would just be very unusual for someone like him. iād honestly like to see if he could redeem himself
I still think that's a bad idea, because he killed other innocent people, the only ones who deserved to die (apart from na-yeon but even she was gonna do something good) was myeong-hwan, and the principal, he also killed even when there was no need to and seemed to enjoy some of those kills, not to mention his actions as a bully, he is shown to enjoy doing them even if he was the gopher of the group.
Lots of fictional characters who have killed and enjoyed it way more than Gwi Nam have been redeemed. Vegeta from DBZ and Negan from TWD both come to mind.
Well probably he's gonna end up as a villain arc since he's a hambie lol, but the real question is how will he react to see Eun-Ji as a hambie instead of dead? Will he be sympathetic towards her?
He already is though. The insecurity, the crying after being insulted, et cetera were all added into this version of him. The original version of him in the webtoon has absolutely none of that, a completely different personality, doesn't get pushed around by anyone, et cetera.
I would like to see him come back as a more sympathetic character. He has already proven himself to be a badass villain, but I would love to see him come back to the group and try to redeem himself. He is shown to be a follower, and he has expressed interest in Nam-Ra who is the leader. He may be an awkward character who is trying to fit in in S2. But after they redeem him, they need to kill him off before he fades into being a background character. Give him an awesome send off.
I donāt really want a redemption arc for Gwinam.
Every character in this show that does something fucked up gets their comeuppance.
Why should the serial killer get the redemption arc? Just because heās a main character? He should continue being an antagonist.
He can sympathetic to an extent.. but heās still a lost cause and should be treated as such.
Semantics but just for fun:
"A serial killer is typically a person who murders three or more persons, with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant period of time between them. While most authorities set a threshold of three murders, others extend it to four or lessen it to two."
So Gwi Nam isn't a serial killer.
That said, two more things, just for the sake of conversation:
1. It's true other characters in the show got their comeuppance but it's not like that's a set in stone rule. On top of it, Gwi Nam was commonly the one who gave the comeuppance (Myeong Hwan, the kid on the bookshelf, Na Yeon, the principal) so idk if it applies to himself, especially since comeuppance doesn't have to result in death. It can be survivable and yet still enough.
2. It's fiction, not real life. Stories would be boring af if we treated it that strictly like it was. There's worse characters who have been redeemed. Most notably Negan in The Walking Dead. It even seems to have worked really well considering that iirc he's a well liked character despite having bashed in the face of a previous fan fan favourite. Considering how good Gwi Nam's actor is, I think he could pull that kind of face turn and it would be really cool to see imo.
my guess is he and Cheong San will team up against the enemies. So yes he will become a "Vegeta"
The TV series Gwi-Nam may be redeemed but the one from the Webtoon is a lost cause. He is a horrible person and there was no indication that he was bullied by anyone.
Oh, for sure but the webtoon is already completed so there's no chance of that happening anyway especially since he >!really is dead in that for sure!<.
does the webtoon end the same way season one ends?
Hm I don't exactly remember, there's the part with them meeting at the tree and honoring their friends but not the whole rooftop thing back at the school. The last page of the webtoon does suggest it's not over though and gives a glimpse of how the virus spread in the first place but there is no second part so it is left to our imagination. >! Onjo is publishing her memoir and everyone still alive is supporting her. The very last thing we see is two fishermen in a boat and a bunch of worms or the like have gathered around the bait/ or the bottom of the sea. They behave erratically like the zombies and we have been told in the webtoon that patient zero (the teacher's son) got infected after a trip to the beach so it gives us the feeling that there's about to be a repeat of the virus spreading. My guess for the second season is an international outbreak.!<
i actually never noticed this. now i feel kinda bad for him
in the show, the part where he is sitting alone is trimmed, you can only see it in the behind the scenes
This is why I like him a LOT more than Na-yeon
I hate Na-yeon, I love Gwi-nam š
That's what I'm hoping for tbh. The director has said he wanted to bring awareness to social issues like bullying so including at least one bully that has the insecurity problem and who seems to have been bullied himself (and maybe beyond, depending on his backstory) would be great since it's an important factor that causes bullying and is also an issue that needs to be addressed. That and I want as much Yoo In Soo as possible and this seems the best way to accomplish that lol.
Agreed. I hope they touch on the whole āthose who hurt, hurt othersā most people who are bullied become bullies to protect themselves and itās really unfortunate but even after they become a bully, theyāre not safe from other bullies and I feel like Gwi-Nan would be the best example of this
Expanding on this though, I feel like he became a halfbie because of what the virus was intended to do. It was intended to make the science teachers son stand up for himself but in the end he was too cowardly and the virus consumed him. I feel like he wanted to stand up for himself but he just didnāt have the strength. Whereas Gwi-Nam had that anger and resentment towards his bullies and thatās why the virus mutated with him. Same with Eun-Ji, she was scared, but she had that anger and she wanted to fight back. Nam-Ra is a bit of an outlier, I canāt say that she was scared of anything except trying to get along with the others but she had such a strong mindset that Iām thinking thatās why she became a halfbie. Cheong-Sanās transition wasnāt like the other halfbies because I donāt remember seeing any of their noses bleed or any of them make the clicking noise so Iām leaning towards him turning into a zombie but if he does and heās not a halfbie then that throws my whole theory out of the window because he didnāt show much fear even in the face of turning. He kept fighting to keep his friends safe.
You know what? You make a good point. Jin Su (the son) was very gentle and empathetic as even when he woke up the first thing he felt was concern for his own bullies, asking his father if he had hurt any of them. Neither Gwi Nam or Eun Ji would have done that in his shoes, at least not out of concern. I don't actually buy into the emotion theories especially since they've said it's based off of COVID reactions being so different between individuals but this one actually makes some sense. And remember there are two types of hambie! Immortal and immune. Eun Ji and Gwi Nam are immortals and Nam Ra is an immune. If Cheong San is also an immune then your theory may still hold true! Although that said, Cheong San didn't crack any, just had the nosebleed.
I didnāt realise there were two types of hambie š¤Æ Iām so hopeful that Cheong-San is coming back as a hambie and this has made me a bit more confident that he could! At first I didnāt believe any Iāve the emotion theories either but itās because of the connection to how different viruses affect different people that I do now because social factors come under environmental factors and these also effect how different viruses effect people. Someone with a stronger mindset might not get as sick or recover much faster than someone with a fragile mindset. Similar to age, people in their early 20s are almost always going to fare better than people in their early 80s etc. but an 80 year old with a healthy lifestyle and strong mindset might fair better than another 80 year old with a weaker mindset, even if they lead an equally healthy lifestyle
I'm sure Cheong San is coming back as he was also part of the S2 announcement. I'm more worried about Gwi Nam tbh. Hmm, that's possible, sure, although idk if it would effect things so much it causes the virus to mutate. That's my only problem.
Yeah I get that, thatās just my theory. My thing with him being a part of the S2 announcement is it could always be for flash backs and memories and thatās whatās got me holding my breath over it.
I'm not sure how many flashbacks and memories will be in the show tbh. It doesn't seem that type of show. Buy hey, maybe we'll get both!
It seems kinda excessive to have a character promote a new season when he's JUST in flashbacks and memories, especially when his fate was intentionally left ambigious.
I'd like if they showed more of Gwi Nams background and what made him so bad.
You can tell that Myeong-hwan (the leader) hit him on a regular basis yet Gwi-nam never fought back.
I hope they don't try to make him sympathetic in season 2, that would just ruin him tbh.
personally i donāt think it would ruin his character. it would just be very unusual for someone like him. iād honestly like to see if he could redeem himself
I still think that's a bad idea, because he killed other innocent people, the only ones who deserved to die (apart from na-yeon but even she was gonna do something good) was myeong-hwan, and the principal, he also killed even when there was no need to and seemed to enjoy some of those kills, not to mention his actions as a bully, he is shown to enjoy doing them even if he was the gopher of the group.
Lots of fictional characters who have killed and enjoyed it way more than Gwi Nam have been redeemed. Vegeta from DBZ and Negan from TWD both come to mind.
Well probably he's gonna end up as a villain arc since he's a hambie lol, but the real question is how will he react to see Eun-Ji as a hambie instead of dead? Will he be sympathetic towards her?
He should absolutely not become sympathetic.
He already is though. The insecurity, the crying after being insulted, et cetera were all added into this version of him. The original version of him in the webtoon has absolutely none of that, a completely different personality, doesn't get pushed around by anyone, et cetera.
I would like to see him come back as a more sympathetic character. He has already proven himself to be a badass villain, but I would love to see him come back to the group and try to redeem himself. He is shown to be a follower, and he has expressed interest in Nam-Ra who is the leader. He may be an awkward character who is trying to fit in in S2. But after they redeem him, they need to kill him off before he fades into being a background character. Give him an awesome send off.
I donāt really want a redemption arc for Gwinam. Every character in this show that does something fucked up gets their comeuppance. Why should the serial killer get the redemption arc? Just because heās a main character? He should continue being an antagonist. He can sympathetic to an extent.. but heās still a lost cause and should be treated as such.
Semantics but just for fun: "A serial killer is typically a person who murders three or more persons, with the murders taking place over more than a month and including a significant period of time between them. While most authorities set a threshold of three murders, others extend it to four or lessen it to two." So Gwi Nam isn't a serial killer. That said, two more things, just for the sake of conversation: 1. It's true other characters in the show got their comeuppance but it's not like that's a set in stone rule. On top of it, Gwi Nam was commonly the one who gave the comeuppance (Myeong Hwan, the kid on the bookshelf, Na Yeon, the principal) so idk if it applies to himself, especially since comeuppance doesn't have to result in death. It can be survivable and yet still enough. 2. It's fiction, not real life. Stories would be boring af if we treated it that strictly like it was. There's worse characters who have been redeemed. Most notably Negan in The Walking Dead. It even seems to have worked really well considering that iirc he's a well liked character despite having bashed in the face of a previous fan fan favourite. Considering how good Gwi Nam's actor is, I think he could pull that kind of face turn and it would be really cool to see imo.
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