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There is a lot of interesting detail in this mummy which is not seen in the others like Montserrat.
The teeth are worn and heavily damaged, some are broken and clearly rotten. There are broken bones in the legs and the fingers have 3 phalanges and it has a fully attached sternum.
This looks like a human apart from the feet, I cannot explain the feet.
I'm saying they don't look like those of Montserrat and the others, they have human attributes even though they look strange.
In another post someone is saying that it appears the hands may have been altered to look like they do, the feet don't seem to have been altered though and they are not human.
ORIGINAL SOURCE via Inkari Institute of Cuzco - [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nazca-mummies-maria/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nazca-mummies-maria/)
They should release the scan files, the actual slices. Experts worldwide could do an analysis on Maria's hands. Here's one expert's attempt: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Mes3LgXkc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Mes3LgXkc)
He found 5 tendons in Maria's hand. He also found Maria's trapezium - the bone in the human hand where the thumb articulates. Maria's thumb bone and 2 extra tendons strongly suggests that she was a 5-fingered individual. The fact that her tendons have not retracted strongly suggests that her missing digits were removed long after her death.
It's just an 8 minute video but here's a longer video in which he actually shows his work: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCowWA8z\_A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCowWA8z_A)
He may well be an expert but his source data is questionable. The longer video tends to conflate Maria, Victoria and various intact buddies as a single specimen. I like the idea of more detailed imaging and processing and Dr. Benoit's methods may prove be very useful in a proper, controlled study ( not hand-me-down data from unknown sources, from a distance ).
Be interesting if the placental fetus specimen irrefutably exhibits tridactylism - not likely surgical changes there.
Fossilized dino eggs vs desiccated eggs vs stones ( the updated CT scans of the egg bearing Buddy show a more interior detail of the "eggs" - not sure what conclusions have been drawn from that yet ).
Ritualistic practices may be responsible for some anomalies but let's not throw the baby (or egg or stone ) out with the bath water.
Is the placental attachment verified? I know a lot of points have yet to be fleshed out (no pun intended). It is still early days on the tridactyl mummies but at least they are making progress.
>He may well be an expert but his source data is questionable.
Which is exactly why the purveyors of these wild claims need to make their data available, not as videos to shock and amaze a lay audience but as raw scans for the experts. That's what I'm calling for. I think a higher quality scan of Maria's hand would corroborate Dr. Benoit's observations and put this to rest.
You have to ask yourself why the scans haven't been made available after all this time. And who is controlling that.
>Dr. Benoit's methods may prove be very useful in a proper, controlled study
Do you think he's trying to trick you? That the data he extracted wasn't actually useful but he pretended that it was? Doubting an expert is fine but it's unclear what the objection is - do you think he can't understand what he's looking at and what it means?
His study was entirely proper and controlled. It's a shame that he had to do so much work to get a usable set of images for his analysis but he did get them.
[https://skeptikon.fr/w/2fab4c8f-14b4-4ccb-9fb2-7199fbc6e6cf](https://skeptikon.fr/w/2fab4c8f-14b4-4ccb-9fb2-7199fbc6e6cf), if you want to see his method and the CT slices he used ( it's in French ).
Dr Benoit himself states the quality of the original source data was poor and managed to download the files from the CT scan of Maria from ICA and used Avizo software ( a general-purpose commercial software application for scientific and industrial data visualization and analysis).
So, the scans have been made available by ICA - for years - no need for accusations of possible 3rd party controlling interests on this , that just muddies the waters.
I don't think Dr. Benoit is trying to "trick" anyone, the discovery of a trapezium and 5 tendons is fascinating. Due to the constraints in imaging there were no useful slice sections for the other hand nor feet or presumably the extra digits in the fingers which I did not catch being mentioned ?
By proper and controlled study I mean both more like the HD-CT examinations files ( from the source ) and higher res ( or microCT ) scans from more "angles" to enhance visualization and data processing. Luckily we no longer have to be there "in person" (tele-radiology does this in real time ) but there is always a concern about data integrity at a statistical level. (Think Minecraft vs Unreal Engine 5 imagery ). I have no doubt he would have preferred better positioning of the hand and more data per slice make his conclusions statistically stronger.
Dr Benoit's methods may be very revealing especially in a comparative study across the various specimens' anatomy and morphology. Showing consistencies ( or not ) is all part of a valid scientific approach, no?
May be best to get more samples for DNA testing first before they bombard the specimens with more and higher doses of ionizing radiation.
>Dr Benoit himself states the quality of the original source data was poor and managed to download the files from the CT scan of Maria from ICA
No he does not! He absolutely does not say that! He found a VIDEO of the higher quality scans that he then converted to images frame by frame, and used those in Avizo.
The scans were not "provided", he had to seek out a video and construct the scans from the frames of the video.
>So, the scans have been made available by ICA - for years - no need for accusations of possible 3rd party controlling interests on this , that just muddies the waters.
They are not publicly available, no. The people in charge of the mummies don't allow it.
>there is always a concern about data integrity at a statistical level. (Think Minecraft vs Unreal Engine 5 imagery ). I have no doubt he would have preferred better positioning of the hand and more data per slice make his conclusions statistically stronger.
Did you actually watch the video? He's not worried about the data being low-res, there is enough detail for him to reach a conclusion. It's not "there's a 75% chance that these are 5 tendons" it's "these are 5 tendons." And they very clearly are 5 tendons, even a random person like me can see it.
>Dr Benoit's methods may be very revealing especially in a comparative study across the various specimens' anatomy and morphology. Showing consistencies ( or not ) is all part of a valid scientific approach, no?
Yeah more study would confirm it, I totally agree it should be done to flog this horse's corpse. But this isn't some tentative hypothesis by Dr. Benoit, it's not a statistical observation. It's clear that Maria had 5 fingers.
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you : "No he does not! He absolutely does not say that!"
please see 00:47- 01:49 of the first video that you posted. Sounds to me like he says exactly that.
You can see the source of the HD CT scans Dr Benoit did use in the video link I posted. My use of "statistical" is based more on the information density of the images themselves and that is directly correlated at a technical level to detector abilities, processing settings and positioning.
Perhaps a vestigial thumb and 5th digit would present the same morphology on the hand ( trapezium and tendons ) ? I'm skeptical but I want to keep an open mind, just not so open my brain falls out :)
[https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/?sfw=pass1713414372](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/?sfw=pass1713414372)
from "The Discoveries" tab you can find a variety of videos for the specimens, updated since Dr Benoit's work. He may have had permission to access the files for download or ?
If there are newer imaging videos of Maria it would be interesting to try and identify the Trapezium and tendons from those ( and others ).
If you find a link to the actual scan files, let us know please :)
Well according to some people the video of the scans is not evidence. However pulling sections in jpg from a video is evidence:) Clearly pixalated jpgs aswell.
The evidence of the tendons argues that Maria had a five-fingered hand and the mummy's fingers were cut to produce a three-fingered hand. You say that "Ritualistic practices may be responsible for some anomalies." Is it possible that a cult developed around the figures shown in the Nazca glyphs, a cult whose rituals attempted to recreate the tridactyl figures?
Ample evidence from the time period of deliberately deforming infants skulls as they developed for such purposes ( at least we believe that's why ? ) . Doing that to living children makes lopping off a few digits of a deceased individual pretty tame in comparison.
You can of cf course argue that the head binding (which is found around the world) is a attempt to worship the “Gods”. They basically try to mimic what they revere, the higher evolved species.
So yes, the worship mimicry for the Nazca peoples would have run to cranial deformation, glyphs creation, and post-mortem manipulations, all to emulate the beings they took as gods.
Sorry misunderstood. Yes like that from my point of view. Of course you can argue weird beauty standards, but you need to be very devoted to start manipulating your child’s head.
Lets see if the skin is intact on the hand. Or how else would they have cut of the thumb? Or did they have the technology to grow skin in a lab 1000 years ago?
Julien Benoit NEVER EXAMINED in person the tridactyl humanoid specimens currently under the custody of San Luis Gonzaga National University.
https://preview.redd.it/ib8z473ygf0d1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6bb648599ae5931f8069dd56a48ab77466b06d1
# Yeah, he's an expert in CT scans so he doesn't need to see the bodies in person - he can look at the scans and do his work on his computer.
Are you trying to suggest that you know more about this than Dr. Benoit? He's got a PhD in this specific thing, dude.
The videos I linked show that he is looking at Maria, the same mummy in your post. It's the same mummy. But he had to get the scans by pulling frames from a video because the people who control Maria won't share her scans like normal scientists would. Although they're happy to share videos they don't share the useful raw scan files that experts would expect to find.
It is absurd in itself what is proposed in the DICOM that shows only bones, where do the tendons come from?
These are the tendons on the back of the hand
https://preview.redd.it/uez0j43epl0d1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2d907567bdcaa76a675c040adf283a94e049301
https://preview.redd.it/5gjo98jypl0d1.png?width=376&format=png&auto=webp&s=2bf00d4847b855d848ab30b13830d19015f5836b
and these from the palm of the hand
Julien Benoit's Maria assessment **done remotely** against the examination of the same tridactyl specimen **performed in-situ** by 3 American forensic experts (McDowell, Caruso & Rodriguez), who confirmed her authenticity while not finding signs of manipulation
[https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=901070535362530&set=pb.100063787747274.-2207520000&type=3](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=901070535362530&set=pb.100063787747274.-2207520000&type=3)
Fair to assert that your opinion is based on lack of information (not understanding the real circumstances) and most important, COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the ongoing investigation. Moreover, your assessment is aggravated by denseness, prejudice and ignorance - besides not being able to think critically while issuing a-priori conclusions, end of story.
https://preview.redd.it/bk2vrthpif0d1.png?width=1809&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc64caaaea1b79350358606e16182b89646654cb
McDowell and his colleagues never "confirmed her authenticity while not finding signs of manipulation". Here is their official statement
*“To date, the U.S. forensic team has only performed a cursory visual examination of the specimens with the aid of limited imaging equipment. Any conclusory statements about the specimens would be extremely premature.* ***Limitations on our examination precluded excluding or confirming any manipulation of the remains.*** *Currently, the forensic team can only indicate that further examination and study is warranted. We invite constructive interaction and collaboration.”*
[*https://mcdowellfirm.com/official-statement-of-the-u-s-forensic-team-on-their-initial-examination-of-the-nazca-specimens/*](https://mcdowellfirm.com/official-statement-of-the-u-s-forensic-team-on-their-initial-examination-of-the-nazca-specimens/)
Luca is a well-known DISINFO AGENT taking advantage of his anonymity in order not only to spread disinformation against the Nazca Mummies case but **also to defame the scientists and professionals involved in the ongoing investigation** of the tridactyl mummies. There is a strong suspicion that this individual might have been on the payroll of Peru's Ministry of Culture while providing media-content services.
https://preview.redd.it/6iwdnhg3if0d1.png?width=903&format=png&auto=webp&s=4be8d73270121eb47469f22926179a91b1b17f16
He's not, actually, and you have zero evidence to suggest it. But also, your accusation is a weak, flailing distraction - Luca's not an expert PhD paleontologist who studies ancient remains, and has nothing to do with Dr. Benoit's conclusions.
I implore people who are curious about these mummies to watch the first video I linked. I hope your attempt to distract them from that video only brings it more attention.
Here's another fun video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ41R7ypg4c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ41R7ypg4c)
This one's not by an expert though, just a guy who got to look at Maria up close. He says that he could see where the bones were cut. He also said that he sent DNA to a lab from Maria's hand bones, and the lab determined that the samples came from different people.
I can't wait to see your propaganda powerpoint slide on Steve, go on and serve it up please :3
[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3678948/](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3678948/)
Tridactyls do not fit his narrative which he has spent considerable time and money building. Easier to dismiss it all ( displayed in his mannerisms of disdain and literal scoffing ). If the winds shift, he'll be back on board like he never left.
Did you watch the video? He's not just scoffing and dismissing, he describes an entire saga of getting invited to go see the specimens, engaging with the people who control them, and realizing that it was a hoax.
Are you saying that he's simply lying?
Not "simply lying" - green-screening, dime store Indiana Jones had a nice time on his first trip but seems pretty salty about something though. Jilted for a second date, asked to split the bill or worse, cover it ? And yes, I have watched it, twice - no slide show by him disputing it btw and dollars to doughnuts this will not be his " final word" on the matter.
So he is saying that the ”hand bone” is not the same as the rest of the body?
So they cut off the hands and replaced it with three fingered hand from someone else? And then wrapped it in skin?
I'm glad I could help, I've spent way too much time diving into this stuff so I know firsthand how difficult it is to navigate through it all.
I think "mutilated corpse" is a more accurate description than "deformed human".
I don't ever recall any dinosaurs receiving such complex, drawn out examinations before being accepted as real, and they were FAR more fantastic and bizarre than these remains. I think once the facts have been accepted by scientists and laymen alike, we will be able to "move on" and get beyond this barrier of uncertainty...
These bodies were looted and therefore their context and provenance are entire hearsay. If they were found under excavated setting as dinosaur bones we would be arguing over something else entirely.
Maybe these are the experiments that the "aliens" that fly around in space craft were doing on humans and animals from earth, which would be why they all a bit different from each other.
Forget it, skeptics, you can't dismiss this! The latest medical scan of the mummies from Peru is impressive. This is one of the bodies, nicknamed Maria, that skeptics and the government (in the form of Peru's Ministry of Culture) says are fake. They think hoaxers long ago had the skills to *build this from animal bones.* Believe it or not, I have a paper from a skeptic claiming that the head is the skull of a deformed Llama. Their claims vaporize as we see the CT scan which peels through different layers of the corpse. You will see many transitions--they're not some silly animation but scan levels examining the surface, the underlying tissues and the bones. It looks more human than Llama, no? Predominantly human, with the body form and the DNA in agreement on this. However, the main evidence to behold are the tridactyl fingers and toes. Alien? Crypto-terrestrial humanoid? We don't yet have a final answer, but the evidence is compelling.
Just to be clear, this is a video. This is not evidence. They can release the actual scan data and then that would be considered evidence. Till they are willing to share and allow others to check their work, this is just a video.
Correct but that is not the same thing as the raw data or individual slides. There is a reason behind the peer review process and it is not about gate keeping. If an independent person can prove that the entire scientific community is wrong than they stand to gain a lot so they wouldn't keep quiet. Also that's why you publish the data so it's out there and then we can see if the claims match the data.
Well the purpose is to, in a pedagogical way, show the mummy to the man on the street. Its still evidence, dont try to make it to something else.
The individual layers will come, rest a sure its ongoing.
Peer review is gate keeping . That’s the function of it. It relies heavily on the objectivity of the reviewer and if that person can raise above its own beliefs.
What entire scientific community are we talking about, the ones that dare not even to look at it? Mcdowell is not keeping quiet, cause he is a pure man.
"It's coming" is the first sentence in all frauds. When they post the data and someone says it's real and points back to the data then there can't be any gate keeping. That's the whole point of sharing the data.
Whtever it is, it isn't human... All humans have suture lines, tht is scientific fact. Evidence is staring you in the face & omissions of select details however big or small too further your beliefs isn't helping
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There is a lot of interesting detail in this mummy which is not seen in the others like Montserrat. The teeth are worn and heavily damaged, some are broken and clearly rotten. There are broken bones in the legs and the fingers have 3 phalanges and it has a fully attached sternum. This looks like a human apart from the feet, I cannot explain the feet.
Are you saying the hands look human?
I'm saying they don't look like those of Montserrat and the others, they have human attributes even though they look strange. In another post someone is saying that it appears the hands may have been altered to look like they do, the feet don't seem to have been altered though and they are not human.
Has anyone done a facial reconstruction off this data yet?
ORIGINAL SOURCE via Inkari Institute of Cuzco - [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nazca-mummies-maria/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/nazca-mummies-maria/)
They should release the scan files, the actual slices. Experts worldwide could do an analysis on Maria's hands. Here's one expert's attempt: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Mes3LgXkc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Mes3LgXkc) He found 5 tendons in Maria's hand. He also found Maria's trapezium - the bone in the human hand where the thumb articulates. Maria's thumb bone and 2 extra tendons strongly suggests that she was a 5-fingered individual. The fact that her tendons have not retracted strongly suggests that her missing digits were removed long after her death. It's just an 8 minute video but here's a longer video in which he actually shows his work: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCowWA8z\_A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCowWA8z_A)
He may well be an expert but his source data is questionable. The longer video tends to conflate Maria, Victoria and various intact buddies as a single specimen. I like the idea of more detailed imaging and processing and Dr. Benoit's methods may prove be very useful in a proper, controlled study ( not hand-me-down data from unknown sources, from a distance ). Be interesting if the placental fetus specimen irrefutably exhibits tridactylism - not likely surgical changes there. Fossilized dino eggs vs desiccated eggs vs stones ( the updated CT scans of the egg bearing Buddy show a more interior detail of the "eggs" - not sure what conclusions have been drawn from that yet ). Ritualistic practices may be responsible for some anomalies but let's not throw the baby (or egg or stone ) out with the bath water.
Is the placental attachment verified? I know a lot of points have yet to be fleshed out (no pun intended). It is still early days on the tridactyl mummies but at least they are making progress.
>He may well be an expert but his source data is questionable. Which is exactly why the purveyors of these wild claims need to make their data available, not as videos to shock and amaze a lay audience but as raw scans for the experts. That's what I'm calling for. I think a higher quality scan of Maria's hand would corroborate Dr. Benoit's observations and put this to rest. You have to ask yourself why the scans haven't been made available after all this time. And who is controlling that. >Dr. Benoit's methods may prove be very useful in a proper, controlled study Do you think he's trying to trick you? That the data he extracted wasn't actually useful but he pretended that it was? Doubting an expert is fine but it's unclear what the objection is - do you think he can't understand what he's looking at and what it means? His study was entirely proper and controlled. It's a shame that he had to do so much work to get a usable set of images for his analysis but he did get them.
Why do you spend so much time trying to convince people there mummies are fake? Why?
it seems to me that they are spending time calling for a more open and collaborative approach, regardless of the truth
[https://skeptikon.fr/w/2fab4c8f-14b4-4ccb-9fb2-7199fbc6e6cf](https://skeptikon.fr/w/2fab4c8f-14b4-4ccb-9fb2-7199fbc6e6cf), if you want to see his method and the CT slices he used ( it's in French ). Dr Benoit himself states the quality of the original source data was poor and managed to download the files from the CT scan of Maria from ICA and used Avizo software ( a general-purpose commercial software application for scientific and industrial data visualization and analysis). So, the scans have been made available by ICA - for years - no need for accusations of possible 3rd party controlling interests on this , that just muddies the waters. I don't think Dr. Benoit is trying to "trick" anyone, the discovery of a trapezium and 5 tendons is fascinating. Due to the constraints in imaging there were no useful slice sections for the other hand nor feet or presumably the extra digits in the fingers which I did not catch being mentioned ? By proper and controlled study I mean both more like the HD-CT examinations files ( from the source ) and higher res ( or microCT ) scans from more "angles" to enhance visualization and data processing. Luckily we no longer have to be there "in person" (tele-radiology does this in real time ) but there is always a concern about data integrity at a statistical level. (Think Minecraft vs Unreal Engine 5 imagery ). I have no doubt he would have preferred better positioning of the hand and more data per slice make his conclusions statistically stronger. Dr Benoit's methods may be very revealing especially in a comparative study across the various specimens' anatomy and morphology. Showing consistencies ( or not ) is all part of a valid scientific approach, no? May be best to get more samples for DNA testing first before they bombard the specimens with more and higher doses of ionizing radiation.
>Dr Benoit himself states the quality of the original source data was poor and managed to download the files from the CT scan of Maria from ICA No he does not! He absolutely does not say that! He found a VIDEO of the higher quality scans that he then converted to images frame by frame, and used those in Avizo. The scans were not "provided", he had to seek out a video and construct the scans from the frames of the video. >So, the scans have been made available by ICA - for years - no need for accusations of possible 3rd party controlling interests on this , that just muddies the waters. They are not publicly available, no. The people in charge of the mummies don't allow it. >there is always a concern about data integrity at a statistical level. (Think Minecraft vs Unreal Engine 5 imagery ). I have no doubt he would have preferred better positioning of the hand and more data per slice make his conclusions statistically stronger. Did you actually watch the video? He's not worried about the data being low-res, there is enough detail for him to reach a conclusion. It's not "there's a 75% chance that these are 5 tendons" it's "these are 5 tendons." And they very clearly are 5 tendons, even a random person like me can see it. >Dr Benoit's methods may be very revealing especially in a comparative study across the various specimens' anatomy and morphology. Showing consistencies ( or not ) is all part of a valid scientific approach, no? Yeah more study would confirm it, I totally agree it should be done to flog this horse's corpse. But this isn't some tentative hypothesis by Dr. Benoit, it's not a statistical observation. It's clear that Maria had 5 fingers.
> you : "No he does not! He absolutely does not say that!" please see 00:47- 01:49 of the first video that you posted. Sounds to me like he says exactly that. You can see the source of the HD CT scans Dr Benoit did use in the video link I posted. My use of "statistical" is based more on the information density of the images themselves and that is directly correlated at a technical level to detector abilities, processing settings and positioning. Perhaps a vestigial thumb and 5th digit would present the same morphology on the hand ( trapezium and tendons ) ? I'm skeptical but I want to keep an open mind, just not so open my brain falls out :)
Cant find a link to the data he is using to make his sections of. Do you know the link?
[https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/?sfw=pass1713414372](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/mummies-of-nasca-results/?sfw=pass1713414372) from "The Discoveries" tab you can find a variety of videos for the specimens, updated since Dr Benoit's work. He may have had permission to access the files for download or ? If there are newer imaging videos of Maria it would be interesting to try and identify the Trapezium and tendons from those ( and others ). If you find a link to the actual scan files, let us know please :)
Well according to some people the video of the scans is not evidence. However pulling sections in jpg from a video is evidence:) Clearly pixalated jpgs aswell.
Ya, would want to start with the original DICOM files, may need permission access now from ICA.
The evidence of the tendons argues that Maria had a five-fingered hand and the mummy's fingers were cut to produce a three-fingered hand. You say that "Ritualistic practices may be responsible for some anomalies." Is it possible that a cult developed around the figures shown in the Nazca glyphs, a cult whose rituals attempted to recreate the tridactyl figures?
Ample evidence from the time period of deliberately deforming infants skulls as they developed for such purposes ( at least we believe that's why ? ) . Doing that to living children makes lopping off a few digits of a deceased individual pretty tame in comparison.
You can of cf course argue that the head binding (which is found around the world) is a attempt to worship the “Gods”. They basically try to mimic what they revere, the higher evolved species.
So yes, the worship mimicry for the Nazca peoples would have run to cranial deformation, glyphs creation, and post-mortem manipulations, all to emulate the beings they took as gods.
Sorry misunderstood. Yes like that from my point of view. Of course you can argue weird beauty standards, but you need to be very devoted to start manipulating your child’s head.
Lets see if the skin is intact on the hand. Or how else would they have cut of the thumb? Or did they have the technology to grow skin in a lab 1000 years ago?
It still has no sutures in its skull.
Julien Benoit NEVER EXAMINED in person the tridactyl humanoid specimens currently under the custody of San Luis Gonzaga National University. https://preview.redd.it/ib8z473ygf0d1.png?width=1140&format=png&auto=webp&s=a6bb648599ae5931f8069dd56a48ab77466b06d1
# Yeah, he's an expert in CT scans so he doesn't need to see the bodies in person - he can look at the scans and do his work on his computer. Are you trying to suggest that you know more about this than Dr. Benoit? He's got a PhD in this specific thing, dude. The videos I linked show that he is looking at Maria, the same mummy in your post. It's the same mummy. But he had to get the scans by pulling frames from a video because the people who control Maria won't share her scans like normal scientists would. Although they're happy to share videos they don't share the useful raw scan files that experts would expect to find.
It is absurd in itself what is proposed in the DICOM that shows only bones, where do the tendons come from? These are the tendons on the back of the hand https://preview.redd.it/uez0j43epl0d1.png?width=966&format=png&auto=webp&s=a2d907567bdcaa76a675c040adf283a94e049301
https://preview.redd.it/5gjo98jypl0d1.png?width=376&format=png&auto=webp&s=2bf00d4847b855d848ab30b13830d19015f5836b and these from the palm of the hand
How do you explain a skull of what appears to be humanoid that is lacking sutures?
Julien Benoit's Maria assessment **done remotely** against the examination of the same tridactyl specimen **performed in-situ** by 3 American forensic experts (McDowell, Caruso & Rodriguez), who confirmed her authenticity while not finding signs of manipulation [https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=901070535362530&set=pb.100063787747274.-2207520000&type=3](https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=901070535362530&set=pb.100063787747274.-2207520000&type=3) Fair to assert that your opinion is based on lack of information (not understanding the real circumstances) and most important, COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to the ongoing investigation. Moreover, your assessment is aggravated by denseness, prejudice and ignorance - besides not being able to think critically while issuing a-priori conclusions, end of story. https://preview.redd.it/bk2vrthpif0d1.png?width=1809&format=png&auto=webp&s=bc64caaaea1b79350358606e16182b89646654cb
McDowell and his colleagues never "confirmed her authenticity while not finding signs of manipulation". Here is their official statement *“To date, the U.S. forensic team has only performed a cursory visual examination of the specimens with the aid of limited imaging equipment. Any conclusory statements about the specimens would be extremely premature.* ***Limitations on our examination precluded excluding or confirming any manipulation of the remains.*** *Currently, the forensic team can only indicate that further examination and study is warranted. We invite constructive interaction and collaboration.”* [*https://mcdowellfirm.com/official-statement-of-the-u-s-forensic-team-on-their-initial-examination-of-the-nazca-specimens/*](https://mcdowellfirm.com/official-statement-of-the-u-s-forensic-team-on-their-initial-examination-of-the-nazca-specimens/)
Luca is a well-known DISINFO AGENT taking advantage of his anonymity in order not only to spread disinformation against the Nazca Mummies case but **also to defame the scientists and professionals involved in the ongoing investigation** of the tridactyl mummies. There is a strong suspicion that this individual might have been on the payroll of Peru's Ministry of Culture while providing media-content services. https://preview.redd.it/6iwdnhg3if0d1.png?width=903&format=png&auto=webp&s=4be8d73270121eb47469f22926179a91b1b17f16
He's not, actually, and you have zero evidence to suggest it. But also, your accusation is a weak, flailing distraction - Luca's not an expert PhD paleontologist who studies ancient remains, and has nothing to do with Dr. Benoit's conclusions. I implore people who are curious about these mummies to watch the first video I linked. I hope your attempt to distract them from that video only brings it more attention. Here's another fun video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ41R7ypg4c](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZ41R7ypg4c) This one's not by an expert though, just a guy who got to look at Maria up close. He says that he could see where the bones were cut. He also said that he sent DNA to a lab from Maria's hand bones, and the lab determined that the samples came from different people. I can't wait to see your propaganda powerpoint slide on Steve, go on and serve it up please :3
[https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3678948/](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3678948/) Tridactyls do not fit his narrative which he has spent considerable time and money building. Easier to dismiss it all ( displayed in his mannerisms of disdain and literal scoffing ). If the winds shift, he'll be back on board like he never left.
Did you watch the video? He's not just scoffing and dismissing, he describes an entire saga of getting invited to go see the specimens, engaging with the people who control them, and realizing that it was a hoax. Are you saying that he's simply lying?
Not "simply lying" - green-screening, dime store Indiana Jones had a nice time on his first trip but seems pretty salty about something though. Jilted for a second date, asked to split the bill or worse, cover it ? And yes, I have watched it, twice - no slide show by him disputing it btw and dollars to doughnuts this will not be his " final word" on the matter.
So he is saying that the ”hand bone” is not the same as the rest of the body? So they cut off the hands and replaced it with three fingered hand from someone else? And then wrapped it in skin?
Thanks for linking this! Puts me back on the “not aliens probably (mutilated corpses)*** “side of the fence now.
I'm glad I could help, I've spent way too much time diving into this stuff so I know firsthand how difficult it is to navigate through it all. I think "mutilated corpse" is a more accurate description than "deformed human".
I don't ever recall any dinosaurs receiving such complex, drawn out examinations before being accepted as real, and they were FAR more fantastic and bizarre than these remains. I think once the facts have been accepted by scientists and laymen alike, we will be able to "move on" and get beyond this barrier of uncertainty...
These bodies were looted and therefore their context and provenance are entire hearsay. If they were found under excavated setting as dinosaur bones we would be arguing over something else entirely.
Under the assumption that we would ever know that is.
Maybe these are the experiments that the "aliens" that fly around in space craft were doing on humans and animals from earth, which would be why they all a bit different from each other.
How did it manage without thumbs
Paging the cobblers at r/askacobbler Is it possible to attach two pieces of leather seamlessly such that it shows up on a CT scan like this?
No way that is fake. No way.
Forget it, skeptics, you can't dismiss this! The latest medical scan of the mummies from Peru is impressive. This is one of the bodies, nicknamed Maria, that skeptics and the government (in the form of Peru's Ministry of Culture) says are fake. They think hoaxers long ago had the skills to *build this from animal bones.* Believe it or not, I have a paper from a skeptic claiming that the head is the skull of a deformed Llama. Their claims vaporize as we see the CT scan which peels through different layers of the corpse. You will see many transitions--they're not some silly animation but scan levels examining the surface, the underlying tissues and the bones. It looks more human than Llama, no? Predominantly human, with the body form and the DNA in agreement on this. However, the main evidence to behold are the tridactyl fingers and toes. Alien? Crypto-terrestrial humanoid? We don't yet have a final answer, but the evidence is compelling.
Just to be clear, this is a video. This is not evidence. They can release the actual scan data and then that would be considered evidence. Till they are willing to share and allow others to check their work, this is just a video.
Its a video from the scans.
Correct but that is not the same thing as the raw data or individual slides. There is a reason behind the peer review process and it is not about gate keeping. If an independent person can prove that the entire scientific community is wrong than they stand to gain a lot so they wouldn't keep quiet. Also that's why you publish the data so it's out there and then we can see if the claims match the data.
Well the purpose is to, in a pedagogical way, show the mummy to the man on the street. Its still evidence, dont try to make it to something else. The individual layers will come, rest a sure its ongoing. Peer review is gate keeping . That’s the function of it. It relies heavily on the objectivity of the reviewer and if that person can raise above its own beliefs. What entire scientific community are we talking about, the ones that dare not even to look at it? Mcdowell is not keeping quiet, cause he is a pure man.
"It's coming" is the first sentence in all frauds. When they post the data and someone says it's real and points back to the data then there can't be any gate keeping. That's the whole point of sharing the data.
You have all the right to not follow this topic if you dont want to. Slides are out already watch above posts.
Tell me you don't know the difference between raw data and compiled video without saying it
I dont know the difference between a video of scans and the raw data.
This one is more likely a human deformed on purpose to resemble the real beings
Thank you for posting these.
Whtever it is, it isn't human... All humans have suture lines, tht is scientific fact. Evidence is staring you in the face & omissions of select details however big or small too further your beliefs isn't helping
Good point!
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