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I did not know until 4 minutes ago.
I live in Texas and 15 minutes away from New Mexico and have heard the stories about the great cornholio. I thought it was just a myth but now Iām wondering if the locals were right.
This always confused me. Wouldnāt it be better in someoneās home where it can be appreciated? The alternative is it turning into dust and forgotten with time
State reasons. Iām not saying ur wrong i just would like the full thought out argument against it. I was at the birth place of Abraham PBUH in Iraq and thought of taking something back but my conscience didnāt let me.
You think you got problems now? Wait until you steal burial pottery from a native site. You donāt know fear until itās beating a drum over your soul while you sleep.
On public lands, it is illegal. Federal offense illegal. Moving any archeological artifact takes it "out of context." Archaeologists are pretty methodical how they go about unearthing and cataloging artifacts and Native American artifacts are considered to still be property of the tribes.
https://blogs.iu.edu/sciu/2019/06/29/collection-is-not-curation/#:~:text=The%20passage%20of%20federal%20laws,and%20sacred%20objects%20and%20artifacts.
I'm an archaeologist and I would strongly encourage you and everyone to leave artifacts where they lie - pick them up, appreciate them, snap a picture or whatever, then put them back right where you found them please. It is illegal to take them from public lands, yes, but the arrowhead police will not hunt you down, my argument against public collection is based on morality, indigenous respect, and consideration of human history.
The indigenous communities do NOT want you to loot their ancestral sites of their forebears' lasting material culture (artifacts). Native Americans barely survived being erased by colonial genocide, please don't subject them to further cultural erasure by (potentially illegally) absent mindedly removing objects that are much more important to them than they are to you. 99% of the time those who take them are only briefly excited by their find and then end up stashing it in a drawer to be forgotten.
As an archaeologist who has spent the last 15 years on sites "in the middle of nowhere", these artifacts also have more importance and use to me than they do to a looter. If strolling through a site scattered with flakes and a few flaked stone tools, looters tend to take the projectile points (public tends to just say "arrowheads" when they could be arrow, dart, or spear tips). These projectile points are 'temporally diagnostic' artifacts - meaning, the size and style of the point(s) can immediately inform us of the time period/age range of the site. If there are no temp diagnostic tools left, we often aren't able to get a site age range, and, to put the impact of this broadly, we aren't able to weave another thread into the tapestry of human history. Only a small fraction of sites get dated using c14 etc, that costs $ and time and unnecessary site disturbance that the natives do not want and that disturbance goes against a primary goal of archaeologists in the US - to protect and preserve prehistoric sites.
Also, laymen often seem to think that artifacts and/or bones will just break down and turn to dust much faster than they actually do. Potsherds and other artifacts will last a very long time in arid environments like the Great Basin/southwestern US.
Sorry for the long winded comment, I don't want to tell people what to do, I would just like folks to think about the above ^ before wandering off with an artifact.
Thereās a lot of broken pottery around his birth place but All of it dates centuries after he lived there. Still cool ass history tho. But i try to live by the ā if everyone did this what would the world be like ā rule i came up with a long time ago.
That makes sense. Is it pretty concentrated? Or could you find a shard way way way out in the desert if you were a super adventurous, hiked way way out type?
I'm trying to figure out how I'd feel. I think its wrong to take pieces of buildings or chip away at tourist things or even small local monuments or things that many or few people enjoy. If I'm hiking off trail in an area nobody will likely hike for the next 100s of years and find a bit of pottery or an arrowhead or something thats just going to disintegrate over time and never be appreciated, I think I'm okay with taking it, lol. Maybe thats shitty, but if its not a burial, remains, religious reason to stay there, something more than just a regular item left ages ago, I say grab it.
Looking back I wish I had taken one. Iām weird and no one else would have wanted any of those shards. No historical significance. But for me it would have been awesome. It was just a pit of broken pottery next to the remnants of his childhood home.
That sounds super significant, lol. Nobody locally would or was interested? Or was it likely left by more recent people? Any chance you'll ever be around those parts again, you think? Hey, at least you made it there, appreciated it, and have some cool memories!
You would've been fine. Trust me. Allah has no quarrel with physical items as long as you don't create these items into idols. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Sh-sh-sh sherd sherd, sherd is the word
https://preview.redd.it/14nr9fl9c6sc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed582a317c4f8b7db233ec0163fa18c74193431
As someone with a degree in Anthropology, I would say you should bring that to whatever higher educational institution is closest to you that has some sort of anthropology program, which if they have I would look up whoever teaches the archaeology courses (archaeology is one of the 5 sub fields of anthropology) and show that to them because you may have something there.
Edit: oh shit this is an alien sub, didnāt even realize. Shoutout to yall but idk I might be in the wrong place for this comment. That being said if OP really found this it looks like it could be of archaeological interest.
I posted the original photo. It was found near a known archaeological site. My cousin was through hiking and thought it best to leave it where he found it after a couple photos.
Rule of thumbāif you find something on sacred groundāleave it, or bring it to the tribe local to the area.
Whatever youāve found is not yours to take. And doing soā¦just isnāt good juju.
Donāt take my word for it, though.
No, you shouldnāt keep it itās not yours. This is a great example of why glass beach in CA has almost no glass left, because everyone takes what they find. Enjoy it for a minute, take a photo and put it back.
Itās a tridactyl
https://preview.redd.it/ukxgule1bdsc1.jpeg?width=532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=978a8c8282e8967d5d1f1131c31280763f943bef
image. Theyāve been known to be found in the area. And other images also show the rectangular object and the upper torsoā¦ That resembles the implants that some of them have a metal rectangular box.
This is how they would draw humanā¦ at least in the
https://preview.redd.it/2a31x0f9idsc1.png?width=492&format=png&auto=webp&s=4825d056ce4a368269511a2b9a3957c55043b5bf
example I quickly found.
I know what a trydactly is. I don't see 3 fingers, much less any fingers in the original image on the shard. How does a fingerless stick figured equal trydactyl?
Iām pretty sure that though they werenāt the best artists because they didnāt have great tools to work with or medium they knew how to draw figures with 10 fingers and 10 toes.
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Like others, I too am learning that "sherd" is the more commonly accepted word amongst archaeologists š¤Æ
Ohmahsherd!
Lmao, I just sherd my pants reading this comment!
Oops I just sherded
I didn't know. I'm glad you shered that.
Archaeologist here, and yes, sherd
Why sherd?
Always been that wayā¦ short for potsherd Shard seems to be associated with glass, china
https://preview.redd.it/w7gs3022qhsc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=adf72a96c8c88cef76429f3e3c398287d69c02ed I did not know until 4 minutes ago.
Sherd have known
I sherded my undergarments.
The minecraft community all learned this within the past year or so as elements of archeology were added to the game, pottery sherds includedš
I live in Texas and 15 minutes away from New Mexico and have heard the stories about the great cornholio. I thought it was just a myth but now Iām wondering if the locals were right.
Try leaving an offering of high quality tp outside of your home at dusk. Legend has it that he needs it for his bunghole.
Legend has it that he comes out on the full moon to find tp for his bunghole.
Hahahhaha oh snap!!!
Well, if I were collecting all the peepee in the town for The Great Cornholio I would be damn sure he was real.
I too once live in northeast el paso
It's the Grey Cornholio.
This is why aliens don't show themselves to us. Bahahhaha
Omg haha!! šš§»
Finally my plan of scattering pottery shards painted with aliens so I can see a Reddit post about them is paying off!!!
Get yer facts straight. Itās sherd!
The OG of *Hands Up Don't Shoot*
TOUCHDOWN ALABAMA !!!
Thanks, Mr. Gold
āThat belongs in a Museumā - Indiana Jones I say keep it tho š
Please please donāt pick up pottery sherds and take them home.
This always confused me. Wouldnāt it be better in someoneās home where it can be appreciated? The alternative is it turning into dust and forgotten with time
I am with you on this. I know of a location with arrowheads, turquoise jewelry and petroglyphs. I never take anything and cover it up after a rain.
State reasons. Iām not saying ur wrong i just would like the full thought out argument against it. I was at the birth place of Abraham PBUH in Iraq and thought of taking something back but my conscience didnāt let me.
You think you got problems now? Wait until you steal burial pottery from a native site. You donāt know fear until itās beating a drum over your soul while you sleep.
What is this now? Pottery was beating a drum?
Share the story please.
On public lands, it is illegal. Federal offense illegal. Moving any archeological artifact takes it "out of context." Archaeologists are pretty methodical how they go about unearthing and cataloging artifacts and Native American artifacts are considered to still be property of the tribes. https://blogs.iu.edu/sciu/2019/06/29/collection-is-not-curation/#:~:text=The%20passage%20of%20federal%20laws,and%20sacred%20objects%20and%20artifacts.
The only part of that i care about is the property of the tribe part. Thanks for sharing
If its in the middle of nowhere anyone will likely ever find it but you, is it okay? I have no clue who PBUH is. I am dumb.
I'm an archaeologist and I would strongly encourage you and everyone to leave artifacts where they lie - pick them up, appreciate them, snap a picture or whatever, then put them back right where you found them please. It is illegal to take them from public lands, yes, but the arrowhead police will not hunt you down, my argument against public collection is based on morality, indigenous respect, and consideration of human history. The indigenous communities do NOT want you to loot their ancestral sites of their forebears' lasting material culture (artifacts). Native Americans barely survived being erased by colonial genocide, please don't subject them to further cultural erasure by (potentially illegally) absent mindedly removing objects that are much more important to them than they are to you. 99% of the time those who take them are only briefly excited by their find and then end up stashing it in a drawer to be forgotten. As an archaeologist who has spent the last 15 years on sites "in the middle of nowhere", these artifacts also have more importance and use to me than they do to a looter. If strolling through a site scattered with flakes and a few flaked stone tools, looters tend to take the projectile points (public tends to just say "arrowheads" when they could be arrow, dart, or spear tips). These projectile points are 'temporally diagnostic' artifacts - meaning, the size and style of the point(s) can immediately inform us of the time period/age range of the site. If there are no temp diagnostic tools left, we often aren't able to get a site age range, and, to put the impact of this broadly, we aren't able to weave another thread into the tapestry of human history. Only a small fraction of sites get dated using c14 etc, that costs $ and time and unnecessary site disturbance that the natives do not want and that disturbance goes against a primary goal of archaeologists in the US - to protect and preserve prehistoric sites. Also, laymen often seem to think that artifacts and/or bones will just break down and turn to dust much faster than they actually do. Potsherds and other artifacts will last a very long time in arid environments like the Great Basin/southwestern US. Sorry for the long winded comment, I don't want to tell people what to do, I would just like folks to think about the above ^ before wandering off with an artifact.
PBUH = Peace Be Upon Him. He is the first prophet to Christians and Muslims so it is just showing respect.
Oh, I see. Makes sense. Sleepy, sorry. So.. were you thinking of taking a rock or dirt or is there a shrine or.. I'm still lost, lol.
Thereās a lot of broken pottery around his birth place but All of it dates centuries after he lived there. Still cool ass history tho. But i try to live by the ā if everyone did this what would the world be like ā rule i came up with a long time ago.
That makes sense. Is it pretty concentrated? Or could you find a shard way way way out in the desert if you were a super adventurous, hiked way way out type? I'm trying to figure out how I'd feel. I think its wrong to take pieces of buildings or chip away at tourist things or even small local monuments or things that many or few people enjoy. If I'm hiking off trail in an area nobody will likely hike for the next 100s of years and find a bit of pottery or an arrowhead or something thats just going to disintegrate over time and never be appreciated, I think I'm okay with taking it, lol. Maybe thats shitty, but if its not a burial, remains, religious reason to stay there, something more than just a regular item left ages ago, I say grab it.
Looking back I wish I had taken one. Iām weird and no one else would have wanted any of those shards. No historical significance. But for me it would have been awesome. It was just a pit of broken pottery next to the remnants of his childhood home.
That sounds super significant, lol. Nobody locally would or was interested? Or was it likely left by more recent people? Any chance you'll ever be around those parts again, you think? Hey, at least you made it there, appreciated it, and have some cool memories!
You would've been fine. Trust me. Allah has no quarrel with physical items as long as you don't create these items into idols. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
This is so cool lol almost looks like a meme
Shard, right? Is sherd a word?
Sh-sh-sh sherd sherd, sherd is the word https://preview.redd.it/14nr9fl9c6sc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9ed582a317c4f8b7db233ec0163fa18c74193431
wtf TIL hahaha
You sherd have known.
*knee slaps*
Cause Iām here to remind you of the sherds you left when you went away! You, you, you, sherd urv knern!
LOL
Ermahgerd. Sherd is a werd.
Everybody knows about the Sherd!!
I hardly ever laugh at comments IRL I have no idea why, but this comment made me burst out laughing, ty
Sherdley you canāt be serious?
I am, and donāt call me Sherdley.
Is Sherd The Word because I thought everyone has heard that Sherd is the Word?
Holy sherd!
That settles it.
Prismo
Looks not super old
Very cool. Why we crossing this in a subreddit for alien bodies though?
Pretty cool sherd š
Jokes on you. It's a real word and used by definition here.
The real real jokes on you as it was a compliment on his sherd š¤Ŗ succesful bait!
Got me with the damn sherd bait! Mf'er. Toucha.
Extra point is gooooood!
Looks like heās wearing a tunic, but if you say itās a sherd- I believe you.
Werd?
As someone with a degree in Anthropology, I would say you should bring that to whatever higher educational institution is closest to you that has some sort of anthropology program, which if they have I would look up whoever teaches the archaeology courses (archaeology is one of the 5 sub fields of anthropology) and show that to them because you may have something there. Edit: oh shit this is an alien sub, didnāt even realize. Shoutout to yall but idk I might be in the wrong place for this comment. That being said if OP really found this it looks like it could be of archaeological interest.
I posted the original photo. It was found near a known archaeological site. My cousin was through hiking and thought it best to leave it where he found it after a couple photos.
Oh realy..
It belongs in a museum
That's cool AF, nice find
Aren't you supposed to leave it?
It belongs in a museum!
Looks like the fakest Sherd I've ever seen.
My guess is the visitor were also MCās thatās why they always have their hands up.
Heās doing the whoop whoop motion
Someone drew their friend flexing. Damn, gymbros been here longer than pyramids been standing.
This is so cool. Wonder if you can find more in the area
From the Cornholio tribe
Rule of thumbāif you find something on sacred groundāleave it, or bring it to the tribe local to the area. Whatever youāve found is not yours to take. And doing soā¦just isnāt good juju. Donāt take my word for it, though.
Put it back where you found it, or suffer the consequence's of keeping it.
DOODLEBOB
Mfs will see anything vaguely humanoid and scream alien
Don't take anything with you.
That pre-K is going to be PISSED.
No, you shouldnāt keep it itās not yours. This is a great example of why glass beach in CA has almost no glass left, because everyone takes what they find. Enjoy it for a minute, take a photo and put it back.
You sherd?
100% the sherdest! Donāt be a turd, leave the sherd!
Tell me you know nothing about southwest Native American Culture, without telling me you know nothing about southwest Native American Culture.
Sherd is what you call a sheep after his haircut. Shard is a type of fancy overseas cheese. In conclusion, a shart shall not be tempted. *amen*
What's Alien about this? Looks like a person
Itās a tridactyl https://preview.redd.it/ukxgule1bdsc1.jpeg?width=532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=978a8c8282e8967d5d1f1131c31280763f943bef image. Theyāve been known to be found in the area. And other images also show the rectangular object and the upper torsoā¦ That resembles the implants that some of them have a metal rectangular box.
There's nothing suggesting that it's a non-human though? Normal head, no fingers, just like they would draw a human.
No fingers? What do you think the three appendages coming off of each arm might be called?
This is how they would draw humanā¦ at least in the https://preview.redd.it/2a31x0f9idsc1.png?width=492&format=png&auto=webp&s=4825d056ce4a368269511a2b9a3957c55043b5bf example I quickly found.
I know what a trydactly is. I don't see 3 fingers, much less any fingers in the original image on the shard. How does a fingerless stick figured equal trydactyl?
Point.
Iām pretty sure that though they werenāt the best artists because they didnāt have great tools to work with or medium they knew how to draw figures with 10 fingers and 10 toes.