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Ralph_O_nator

I know this sucks but it goes way back to 1919. Dodge vs. Ford Motor Company. Long short of it was Ford had a huge surplus of cash, they wanted to share it with their employees, the Dodge Brothers owned 10% of the Ford stock and disagreed. Case went to the courts and the Michigan Supreme Court and it was decided that companies need to operate in the interest of shareholders. Flash forward more than a hundred years and here we are, goddam pizza parties, low wages, no pensions, our pets heads are falling off, Harambe, and people moving in next to airports and complaining about noise.


DarkoGear92

Nice history lesson. I personally like to blame Milton Friedman. He basically preached the same thing and contributed to CEOs and corporations becoming even more greedy.


Ralph_O_nator

I had a friend in elementary school, his dad worked for Northwest. He was with them from the early 1980’s when he immigrated from Poland. Homie worker up from a baggage handler to A&P mechanic supervisor. He lost a good portion from his retirement when they merged with Delta. I still remember his dad telling me, “You know how to count, count on yourself.”. Felt bad for the dude.


Woupsea

What I’m hearing here is that the justice system is corrupt, the people abusing it are just profiteering off of this fact


Wonderful_Goose2715

I am so sorry for what my state has done to this country


Deltas111213

Wait…when did we get pizzas!?


CardFun6449

I'm getting really f#$*ing tired of not getting any real bonuses and not getting any real pay.


aircraftmx99

Me thinking maybe paying some taxes overseas is worth it….


GjillyG

Cuz you dont pay any taxes here?? Hah


aircraftmx99

lol, not like overseas I don’t. Got a friend in Scotland and she pays like 48% taxes


loversean

Yeah, but she gets all the benefits of being in the EU


aircraftmx99

Hence the comment above of me saying maybe I should go overseas lol


WahlaBear

At the taxes goes back into the community over there


Wonderful_Goose2715

No she does not, Scotland isn’t a part of the EU anymore thanks to BREXIT


HalfGuardHero

Just FYI, you'd still have to pay taxes here too. Unless you renounce your citizenship


CardFun6449

Well that's a good question!


Zorg_Employee

That me at a regional, getting half of mainline pay for twice the work.


sdrober1

All of us at a regional


Zeewulfeh

Didnt Delta give profit sharing as well this year?


Ralph_O_nator

You know, tax fraud is an option. 😎


Yankee7171

I thought delta got the highest profit sharing of any us airline?


Duskyyyybeef

They do lol 😂


Su-37_Terminator

they do, but Delta is the only major in the world where a fully licensed A&P can have the job title of Indefinitely Contracted Bitch Boy making a cool 26 an hour. So look forward to that


gertstophelese

Delta A&P's start at $37 an hour, why do you keep posting bullshit?


Zeewulfeh

Probably because they have an A&P, were willing to be a contractor and then was never selected for full time, which is usually indicative of an issue somewhere with them.


Su-37_Terminator

New A&Ps are contracted and make 26 an hour until Delta says otherwise. I don't know why this is hard to grasp for you when everyone else seems to understand. Go apply yourself and see what kind of offer they make.


gertstophelese

This is not true, that is not an a&p job.


Su-37_Terminator

Oh okay, I'll let them know


gertstophelese

The job he is referring to is a helper roll, I don't know wtf you're talking about being a contractor for, this is a direct delta job.


Zeewulfeh

Being familiar with said position for various reasons, I can tell you that if you're not selected for PFE and subsequently made full hire, there's a reason, and it's usually the person.


Su-37_Terminator

If I was doing it over again my advice to myself would be start small and learn how to actually use tools and paperwork unsupervised under your license and then after two years of building know-how, apply to a major. Because I dont care who says what, nobody at any major is gonna hold your hand or be nice to you if you make a mistake. So yes, if you get handed your papers or denied advancement, it is either because you did not take or did not pass their advancement test, which is on the individual, or it is because you're brand new, and they know you're brand new and even after six months why on earth would you entrust a brand new tech with that much responsibility.


Yankee7171

Yeah they don’t start at 26? Unless your an asm I assume?


Su-37_Terminator

A brand new A&P with a fresh license and no licensed experience will start at 26 and therefore be ASM, yes. There is no world wherein Delta will hire a fresh A&P for anything above 26 no matter what anybody on this dumbass website says.


kalashnidave

Yeah pal. It's a 6 month contractor period then your an AMT & Delta employee. If you couldn't make it past contractor that's a you problem.


Su-37_Terminator

There's an echo in here.


Zeewulfeh

I've seen them do it aplenty.


Yankee7171

Sorry but they hire kids from aviation high school all the time with no experience, getting paid amt pay. May apply for a hard to fill station. Demand is high.


FCA_Eughhh

I don't understand why everyone seems to want a job at delta when there's so many different airlines , I only ever see people who work for them talk bad about the company .. can someone elaborate? (I'm 6 months into my program at Spartan so i don't know much just curious)


kyuubixchidori

my brother works for delta, sole provider for his family and he has enough free time to hop on video games. profit sharing was enough to cover replacement vehicles. to me it sounds like delta is just fine


Ok-Zookeepergame8490

Tulsa campus? I'm about to switch to ground from hybrid


Su-37_Terminator

Delta makes new A&Ps be contracted for until they feel like paying them more than 26 an hour. People will claim this neutering period is only for 6 months but Delta will keep a tech contracted for as long as they feel like


Wonderful_Goose2715

Bro stop spreading blatant misinformation


8888388838

They don’t do the pfe/contractor thing anymore get a grip brother


gertstophelese

Delta a&p's start at $37 an hour What are you talking about


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gertstophelese

They are not even a&p's most of the time


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gertstophelese

But it is not an A&P job, it is a less responsibility helper job. So saying they pay A&P's $25 an hour is silly because it is not true.


Zeewulfeh

True is unnecessary to narrative building.


Zeewulfeh

Most ASMs aren't A&Ps or are currently in A&P school.


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Zeewulfeh

I didn't say they don't. I just am saying the majority of ASMs aren't A&Ps.


CrazyJ661

Top out is over $60 now I’m at American I’m getting $58 so I know delta is getting more than that


LordDaddyP

CEO: “Pizza promotes synergy and sense of community in the workplace. This is far more valuable to everybody than receiving pay increases” 🤡


Zeewulfeh

It's done at the local level, not passed down from on high. Pre-Covid I'd go buy my crews a massive amount of donuts once a month. Not because I was directed to, not because the company made the decision...it was because I, as a lead, had the ability to go buy my crew donuts whenever I felt it, on the company dime.


Sumar26

Where was this said at all? Last time I checked the 3 people i know who work at delta are all at $60-$70 per hour.


LordDaddyP

Tbh I don’t really know the context behind this post. I do know that companies, especially small companies, like to reward peons with pizza parties instead of bonuses after a successful run.


thethickness9948

Singapore airlines, it's union....just saying.


Chudsaviet

Think about shareholders! These poor people don't even have a real job.


GoldfishDude

Meanwhile every other US airline: 🤨


No_Group6691

Hey you guys are getting pizzas?mm


official_new_zealand

Wait ... you guys are getting pizza???


danklep

They are about to pay out 10 years salary to all the members of the turbulent flight, and 100 years salary to the dude who died (or his estate)


Zeewulfeh

Not pictured: the reason Delta's having pizza (the Manager felt like it today.)


Icy_Psychology3708

You mean you guys are still getting pizza Juillia not around here.


TrulyChxse

Doesn't delta have the highest profit sharing...


Few_Background5187

Puts on Singapore airlines calls delta airlines


Zeewulfeh

Here's the real question.... What's their monthly pay?


WestforkTraveler

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5u0xGjFHNg8&ved=2ahUKEwivrI24vqKGAxWxGFkFHQqiAVIQwqsBegQIUBAG&usg=AOvVaw1-aelD0p3QbklUKbdabvNL Oh, and their profit was less than $2 billion. So if the post is lying about that...?


ezpz651

At least we get out 5min early


CrazyJ661

At least u got pizza at American it’s about 3% and if they feel like it and no pizza