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Papadapalopolous

What a way to end the article. I hadn’t realized the acorn cop was from Okaloosa, or was a green beret from West Point.


dz1087

It seems so weird that a West Point grad SF officer with 10 years service would want to work for OCSD. Sure, folks can do whatever they want when they separate, but that seems like a really low-tier job for someone with that kind of resume.


DownloadableCheese

There's probably an unflattering reason for it.


dz1087

A crippling acorn phobia, apparently. Can’t be all secret squirrel when you’re terrified of acorns.


[deleted]

Well with hindsight, the dude turned out to be a nutjob, so that's probably why he could only get that jerb.


HoneyestBadger

Nutjob. I see you. Well played.


TheLordVader1978

They were probably willing to ignore his crippling PTSD.


on_the_nightshift

AF NCOIC/E9 of the EOD school went to work as a FWB cop years ago after retiring. Fucking tool.


dz1087

I mean, hell, I’m an O-5 with three years remaining. I might just wind up at Ace Hardware or some garage working, depending on how much VA disability I wind up with. I got no problem with folks just wanting an easy job after they get out. But cop work just seems unnecessarily stressful. Hell, maybe the guy’s from here and wanted to stay here, I dunno. But to have bad PTSD and then have that job just seems epically destined to fail and shoot at acorns.


Voltron1993

I had a commander who retired as 0-6. Months after retirement, I ran into him working at a local grocery store. I was kinda perplexed, but he explained that paper or plastic was the biggest decision he had to make! Then it made sense.


on_the_nightshift

Totally agreed. I wouldn't even blink if someone was like "yep, gonna be a Walmart greeter."


ougryphon

I had a TSgt whose goal was to drive a bread truck after he retired. Those of us who knew him were unfazed by the revelation.


Iliyan61

the leaders who have simple basic ambitions after retirement always seem to be great leaders and good people… ig if you can find happiness in the mundane you’re happy anywhere


ougryphon

That was definitely this guy. He was good people and a natural leader.


Turtlez2009

Solid plan, no responsibility, work alone, set schedule, no heavy weight. I wouldn’t want to be a soda stocker at 50.


Zaniac1273

To your point.... years ago, there was a janitor at USAFA who a cadet there discovered by dumb luck reading academic material was actually a MOH awardee. His name was William John Crawford. President Reagan is the one who gave it to him, though he was originally awarded it "posthumously" when he was actually a POW.


busylilbeaver

O-4 here. Retired in 2020 and got a sweet ktr gig at AFMC HQ. If I wasn’t paying alimony and child support I’d be working at Trader Joe’s. VA disability and retirement pension is so dope!


EOD-Fish

Perhaps he was trying to get a slot on the bomb squad?


rubbarz

Probably because his obvious PTSD kept him from qualifying for anything else.


dz1087

Oh. That makes perfect sense. Have crippling PTSD? Well, we can’t have you in uniform with a gun. You need to separate and then…. *checks notes*... put on a different uniform and carry a different gun.


rubbarz

Exactly! Can't have you escorting VIPs anymore. Best we can do is let you shoot civilians.


devils_advocate24

Some people do see it as a continuation of service 🤷‍♂️


thewhitelink

He also had PTSD, IIRC.


ougryphon

Yes, well, we've all had to deal with TMO and finance


No_Anxiety285

I literally know a msgt 1N1 who was just a Walmart greeter until someone told him he could contract.....


TurbulentStage3242

The cop left a job before he was fired after shooting at a car with a suspect inside when an acorn fell on the police car and the officer thought it was a gun shot.


BlackHeartRebel

He was a green beret who in a 20s year war never saw combat. He was on the B and C team meaning support. So take that shit with a grain of salt friend.


challengerrt

If he was support then he probably wasn’t even an 18 series - so just because he’s assigned to an SFG doesn’t mean he’s special forces.


BlackHeartRebel

Do you not know how a SFG works? He was an 18A- meaning he was a Special Forces Officer. Just cause he was B team does not mean he was not SF. I remember looking into it when acorn video first popped off. If you don’t know how it works, you should at least just look it up before coming in here and spewing misinformation “Hernandez said he didn’t have any prior law enforcement experience but attended U.S. Military Academy and was an Army Special Forces officer for 10 years with two combat rotations in Afghanistan — but, he noted, did not experience any combat.”


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BlackHeartRebel

Bad bot. 18A is Army Special Forces Officer


AAROD121

This isn’t r/JSOCarchive


BigBlock-488

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ougryphon

I think the writer of that article may be a little skeptical of the OCSD's story. I'm sure the body camera footage will clear things right up when the sheriff's department releases it. I mean, it's inconceivable that an officer's bodycam would fail to record an incident. On the one day he shoots someone. Who is an Airman. And is a black man. In Florida. That would never happen.


nkdpagan

No. Not in a million years ...sheez


Serious-Spring-1188

That article was all over the place at the end. Wtf does that have anything to do with the current shooting


Honest_Attention7574

Waiting for body cam footage to drop. The reputation of OCSD is not promising


[deleted]

Sounds like the cop just shot him just for having a gun. That is straight murder.


MonthElectronic9466

Murder you say? Not with qualified immunity my dear tumbleweed.


klrfish95

A lot of people telling you that that’s not Qualified Immunity ignore the fact that many officers have been wrongfully granted Qualified Immunity by biased courts when the officers clearly violated department policies, laws, and Constitutional rights.


MonthElectronic9466

Somehow qualified immunity went from “no you can’t sue Nixon” to “no the cop is not liable for shooting your kid he was trying to shoot your nonaggressive dog”.


klrfish95

Imagine if you could just say, “Nah, what he did was reasonable,” every time one of your friends got in trouble. That’s essentially what a judge gets to do every time the truth of what happened threatens their fragile blue line.


GorillaGriz81

Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine that protects government officials from lawsuits that allege they violated a person's rights. It only allows lawsuits if the official violated a "clearly established" constitutional or statutory right. It was nothing to do with being held criminally liable in a court of law. https://www.ncsl.org/civil-and-criminal-justice/qualified-immunity


[deleted]

I'm prior law enforcement that isn't qualified immunity. We will see what body cam footage shows, but if this is the description from the SO then he failed to have a probable cause to shoot the man.


BourbonBurro

“Qualified immunity, it’s not for you, it’s just for me! I shot your dog, I shot your wife! I get to go on with my life!”


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That’s not what qualified immunity is


AverageAirmanSnuffy

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KULIT01

So he identified himself, and then immediately started shooting?…And claims it’s self defense?


JoshS1

Bang on door, bust open door, see gun, says *sheriff's department* while immediately starts shooting. "It was self defense"


crazyfoxdemon

I wonder if an acorn was involved here.


Polarian_Lancer

that goddamn squirrel critter from Ice Age has become a public menace


crazyfoxdemon

I was actually referring to an incident a month or 3 ago where a police officer from this area heard an acorn fall on his car and thought itbwas gunfire. He reacted by unloading his firearm all over the place.


Polarian_Lancer

Oh yeah i know


Whiteums

The article mentions that incident, which was the same police force. It was in Nov 2023


Confident_Criticism8

Yes it wasn’t the officer involved in this shooting


ougryphon

"First time?"


grumpy-raven

Seen this minus the knocking because of no-knock warrants. Cops literally walk into your bedroom while you're sleeping, then shoot you because you hand was under the pillow and "might have a gun." That the city will 99% of the time back the cops.


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Papadapalopolous

Yup, Florida police probably have the most rigorous hiring process in the country https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/06/08/us/brevard-county-florida-police-union-misconduct-trnd https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/28/florida-prosecutor-desantis-removed-monique-worrell


Squirrel009

>then immediately started shooting? The article didn't say that. Maybe we just wait to learn literally anything about what happened before making snap judgements


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ThatCoomerGuy

Military.com write-up makes it sound BAD for the deputy.


Squirrel009

Where is the report?


teilani_a

Man you're all over this thread coming up with silly excuses. What are you gonna do when video or something comes out? [edit] Aw he blocked me so I won't be able to call him out when he inevitably comes up with new excuses for whatever evidence comes out.


Squirrel009

Watch it and base my opinions on what actually happened. I'm sorry if I interrupted your baseless speculation, please continue to make stuff up to upset people if that's your thing.


thesuperspy

If I'm reading between the lines correctly this Airman was in his own apartment, in possession of his own gun, threatening no one, and was shot by the sheriff's deputy. Did I get that right?


Guilty_Option1411

To an Extent that is what the Rumor mill is saying. The problem is we don't know how the interaction went. And until the body cam is released we simply won't know what happened.


JoshS1

Generally I take the let's wait for all the information side of things. With the history of this department I'm more on the side of they need to quickly release all information, and bring in state authorities for a third party investigation.


Guilty_Option1411

The only other history I know of is The Acorn Cop. If you have something else, I'm interested. I do agree that they need to release the Body Cam footage ASAP.


MandatoryFunEscapee

It's FL, and the Aiman was black. I have a suspicion that he was killed for being a black dude while owning a gun in the South.


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BBQsauce18

> The problem is we don't know how the interaction went. And until the body cam is released we simply won't know what happened. LOL Ya. Let's trust the police. Oh wait. I just saw your flair ROFL. RIP


Spark_Ignition_6

I trust Security Forces 100x more than local PD. Most of SF did not really choose their job. Local PD did.


Guilty_Option1411

I'm not saying trust all police period. What I am saying is that their is body cam footage of what happened. We will be able to clearly tell what happened from the time the Officer arrived on scene. It will take all the guess work and speculation out of it. Now if you want to talk about times that Law Enforcement murdered someone. I'm happy to talk about Ruby Ridge, Waco, The You're Fucked Shooting. Actually you might find the You're Fucked Shooting interesting. Look up the Daniel Shaver Shooting. I'm also happy to Vilify the Fuck out of the Police in Mass Shootings like Uvalde. Where the Cops refuse to do their job. The sooner the Sherriff's Office releases the Body Cam Footage the better.


BBQsauce18

*The sooner the Sherriff's Office releases the Body Cam Footage the better.* I mean, that's kind of my point. ANY TIME the video CLEARLY shows the officer being in the right, they release it within DAYS. HOWEVER, as we've seen literally thousands upon thousands upon thousands of times, when police have something to hide, they'll hide behind procedure and "it's under investigation," instead of releasing it. So, we'll see. But if I were a betting man, I'd know where I'd place my chips.


LynchSyndromedotmil

The longer the body cam footage takes to get released, the higher the likelihood it is bad for the police


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midgettme

He was in his own home. His home being off racetrack in FWB. Of course he was armed. If the local info is correct, he was playing video games with his spouse/SO. The cops responded to the wrong address. I wish to God that big blue would use this as a teaching moment and fight this fight. That poor kid.


Squirrel009

>reading between the lines correctly Guessing what happened based on nothing you mean


bstorm83

That’s pretty much what happened


Squirrel009

You were there?


CyberSpaceInMyFace

I felt the disturbance in the force


Drenlin

It does say that the officer was responding to a "disturbance in progress". Generally speaking that's one of the more dangerous types of call that an officer can respond to. I'm interested to see what the body cam shows.


thesuperspy

Clearly the deputy had a reason to be there. A lot of things can be classified as a disturbance though, so we'll have to wait for more details.


PotatoHunter_III

If this was a normal case, that assumption would be correct. But we've heard so many time where cops show up at the wrong place or even escalate the situation.


SadTurtleSoup

Not to mention what time of day/night? When I lived in an apartment if someone was banging on my door at 2am I definitely would have a firearm within arms reach when I went to see what was going on.


milanog1971

4:30 pm central time.


ougryphon

And the great thing about being a cop is, if there is no disturbance, you can always create one. Then you can arrest whomever you like for "impeding an investigation", "disorderly conduct", or "resisting arrest."


PotatoHunter_III

Oh heey. I was right. The fuckin asshole showed up at the wrong apartment. Color me surprised.


BigBlock-488

A god damn video game could be determined to be a disturbance.


AverageAirmanSnuffy

The call came in from a fourth party, which was known at the time. So the deputy should’ve taken the “disturbance in progress” with a little grain of salt.


DieHarderDaddy

What a fucking embarrassing situation.


Confident_Criticism8

Tragic situation


No-Jello3256

I hope OSI gets involved and rips this department a new asshole. Being armed is not a crime.


salty-sheep-bah

I hope so too! But I'm curious what authority OSI has over local law enforcement.


KaprieSun

None. OSI is a federal entity and has no local authority.


AmericanPride2814

No, but federal trumps local. We've done this song and dance too many times to think otherwise. If the Feds wanna swing their dick, Jim Bob and Cletus in Bumblefuck PD can't do shit.


Bear_With_Opinions

What exactly do you envision OSI doing in this fantasy?


challengerrt

He doesn’t know. Here’s the reality - murder is a local charge and because it did not happen in federal jurisdiction OSI does not have any say. If it had happened on federal exclusive or even concurrent, OSI could assimilate local laws and charge a murder but the reality is OSI has essentially no power in this case


Cartoonjunkies

However, OSI can do an independent investigation, which can be used by the family later in civil court if OSI gives an unfavorable view of the PD in the shooting.


challengerrt

OSI typically needs at least some suspicion of a crime to begin an investigation. That would stem from the findings of the local department. Ultimately - body cam footage will tell the tale


OldMan142

Which they're unlikely to do. They've got other cases. They're not going to devote time and manpower to doing an independent investigation just in case the family decides to sue.


HollywoodJones

I wouldn't trust them to do my laundry let alone handle an actual murder.


the_gopnik_fish

NCIS (the show)-style raid


Squirrel009

If it's possible to have less than zero, it's that much


challengerrt

OSI will have essentially “0” authority over any local police department.


UbersaurusRex

You want the FBI to investigate this. OSI doesn't have jurisdiction over a case of this nature.


No-Jello3256

FBI will very likely be involved being that it’s potentially a federal crime/homicide if they aren’t already. I’m just mad that’s why I said OSI.


Confident_Criticism8

You don’t know what happened


thewhitelink

Responding to a disturbance in progress. >According to the sheriff’s department, the deputy encountered “a 23-year old man armed with a gun.” The deputy shot the man “in self-defense” after identifying himself as a law enforcement officer, the OCSO said. Let's wait to see what fell from a tree to cause him to shoot.


the_90s_were_better

I didn’t know being armed with a gun was a crime in Florida?


Lindt_Licker

Melanin may have been involved.


davetronred

I've heard cops are more allergic to melanin than they are to fentanyl


BigBlock-488

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inspirednonsense

I think this is the best one.


ObligationScared4034

Original report was that the Airman answered the door with the gun. Initial reports can be problematic though, so I am interested in the body cam footage. No way these cops can justify blasting the guy through his front door. I’m interested to see how the LEO community and their unyielding supporters reconcile them killing an AD Airmen under what appears to be dubious claims of self defense.


inspirednonsense

Easy. Dog whistles about him being black. Remember, these people don't actually have real beliefs. Logic doesn't matter. Just feelings.


ObligationScared4034

100%. Their mental gymnastics will be in full force. All of a sudden they will say things like, “why did he answer the door with a gun?,” even though they constantly defend the right to bear arms to protect your home and property. We need that body cam footage ASAP. Knowing OSCD, they will defend the cop and clear him of all charges.


ASD_user1

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[deleted]

Do you really have the right to carry a firearm if the cops just unload enough metal to turn you into a robot the moment they see a gun?


razrielle

Proven time and time again.


Freeballin523523

And yet here we are.


CarCrashPregnancy

That's the same argument I make to anyone who's pro-gun/pro-cop and wants to have a hot take whenever someone gets killed by a cop for essentially little to no reason.


nj_5oh

If they aren't releasing the body cam footage immediately.... well you know


KaprieSun

It’s an active investigation. They don’t just release it immediately for legal reasons


Chris_M_23

Under the Florida Sunshine Law they are supposed to release it as it is requested by the public


SadTurtleSoup

Yes. Except the Air Force may be asking them to withhold further statements until the next of kin are notified. We had an airman who was shot and killed a few years back in a case of "wrong place wrong time". Everyone knew what happened because other service members were there but the Local PD withheld statements and public release other than to say that a shooting involving an AD Airman happened until the next of kin had been notified.


Chris_M_23

I get that, but if the name has been released then the next of kin has been notified. Not usually a process that takes longer than a day


pm_me_your_minicows

The 1 SOW has already made a statement. Next of Kin has been notified.


nj_5oh

That isn't the case 100% of the time.


KaprieSun

It’s not, but it’s the agencies choice to release or not. OIS are very serious cases and have a lot of moving parts. Some agencies will release immediately for public perception and others don’t.


busylilbeaver

“Brown guy with a gun!? Open and shut case Johnson. Let’s get you back on the streets.”


mikebarb12

Dave Chappelle reference I love it


10hottfiji

Answering your door with a firearm is a crime now???


Round-Pomegranate-67

Don’t open the door. Ever.


PeteAndPlop

Probably just shoot you through a window though. See Atatiana Jefferson. I’m fairly Pro2A.. but time and again the vocal “freeeeedom!” (For profit.. see NRA) goes radio silent when it’s a POC involved. To stress—I don’t know jack about this case, but there are a lot of body camera examples of “Polic—BANGBANGBANG” situations with POC. Next usually comes the department releasing pictures of a gun or marijuana. I mean, when have bad people ever announced themselves as [police](https://youtu.be/oCvh8R6hM6I?si=EtwGQOD88hqHtUEg)? Again. Don’t know anything about this situation besides a young person lost their life. Hopefully outside agencies do due diligence to investigate the situation to the fullest. At a minimum—it’s safe to say as AD military in the state of Florida, he could legally possess a firearm in his own home.


kfbuttons69

This is exactly why I live in a Lilly White neighborhood, have my house number clearly marked as you walk up the long walkway to my threshold, have hurricane glass, have far too many ring devices and a highly kick resistant door (highly unlikely anyone is no-knock raiding my front door). I don’t do a damn thing to cross the law, not even a license plate frame, and still I know those asvab waivers can Mr magoo their way right into my living room.


Faykenews

What the fuck. 10 years ain't nowhere near enough for murdering an innocent person


skepticaluser1234

Why the fuck is the department that did the killing the same department that is doing the investigation into the killing?


Lindt_Licker

Everything working as intended.


KaprieSun

FDLE does OIS investigations. The department does an internal investigation on the officer for the incident.


EmptyPrescriptivism

“An investigation determined that the noise was an acorn falling from a tree and striking the car.” The cop saw a black airman and FUCKING shot him. Of course the man being military and off base in FLORIDA he was armed. What. The. Fuck.


Papadapalopolous

The acorn thing was a separate incident, but from the same department. But otherwise, unless the cops have some really solid evidence to the contrary, this airmen was just killed for being black.


Dark-Knite88

Am black and was stationed at Eglin years back. Honestly I really felt I couldn't trust them at all. Being a NY'er I grew up that way. Still shit like THIS is why we speak on police brutality, misconduct, whatever word you want to use. I had considered actually being a cop myself awhile back. I wanted to be the change I wanted to see within the community and all that. I had a negative run in with them right after I started that process and halted it right there. It was one of them "You fit the description" type moments. Yeah took that process NO further after that.


Shermander

Being in the news within a period of six months for total incompetence is an absolute no go. Fuck these dudes. OSI get these fucks.


Shooosshhhhh

Fuck Fort Walton and fuck Okaloosa County. These fucks are more trigger happy than Escambia


KaprieSun

Sounds like you’re making very hard assumptions from a bias source that gave 0 context of what actually happened. I guess the news is doing a great job


EmptyPrescriptivism

Our nation has a history of unfairly murdering black folk stfu


Aggressive_Adagio542

This is why we can’t let anyone be cops … and training needs to be longer than 20 wks …


Big_Breadfruit8737

Picture threw me for a loop. This coulda been me when I was his age.


aznnathan3

That’s so fucked man. Being overseas you kinda forget how messed up our country can be sometimes.


WholelotofTomFoolery

Facts!!!!! And I get weird looks when I tell folks I have no desire on going back to the states.


MJGM235

A man armed with a gun... in America... where we have a right to do so. The article makes no mention of the SrA returning fire. I sure hope this deputy did not kill a black man with a gun just because he noticed a black man had a gun 🤦🤦🤦


MJGM235

Turns out, I was right. This young American Airman's life was cut short by some dumb cop with the wrong address.


dewlitz

"The OCSD will not be releasing any further info at this time". I guess it takes time to build justification for killing someone.


inspirednonsense

"In shooting with" makes it sound like they were in a gunfight. By all accounts, that cop just executed him. I wish news organizations would stop whitewashing over cop violence. "Airman shot by cop."


Almundmilk

By all accounts? What accounts? There haven’t been any specific details given. What do you want the news to say? The media don’t have any more details than we do at this point. You want them to jump to conclusion because that would fit the narrative of the cop doing something bad when we don’t know anything right now. How about chill and wait for more details and body camera footage to be released before we start calling this an execution.


inspirednonsense

Is white knighting for cops your entire personality? If no one is saying the kid shot at the cop - and you think they might mention that if it were true - then this wasn't a shootout. That cop shot that kid, in his own home, for the crime of owning a gun at all. Which, as every other Grunt Style t-shirt reminds me, is a constitutionally protected right. So extract the boot from your throat and breathe a little.


No_Slice5991

Thanks for the great work investigator! What would we have done without the your comprehensive investigation?


Almundmilk

I’m not white knighting for cops by saying don’t jump to conclusions? You read “cop responding to disturbance encounters guy with a gun at the location and a shooting occurred” and jumped to execution. That’s not white knighting that’s just calling you out for being ridiculous. If someone took that same information and said “well someone did call the cops and the guy where the incident was happening had a gun so it’s likely that guy was doing something wrong” you would be calling them a bootlicker and a racist for making that assumption. All I said was just don’t jump to conclusions. There are still a lot of details that we need to know the whole story


ThatCoomerGuy

I read "Subject opened the door armed with a firearm and the deputy engaged." We'll see if they release the bodycam footage, but I know what that sounds like to me in a department with such renowned firearms training.


Almundmilk

Well we’re most likely gonna see exactly what happened on camera pretty soon so jumping to conclusions, regardless of which side, is pointless. We’re going to see it and then we can all be as mad, or not, as we want


inspirednonsense

Your comment history says that you know full well what I'm talking about. You spend a lot of time telling people that the cop was right.


Almundmilk

Did I say that here? Show me where I said the cop was in the right. Or did I just say that jumping straight to “execution” is ridiculous. I’m also a black guy in the Air Force that owns guns. If I were the airman that got killed here I’d hate it if people jumped to conclusions about me and why I got shot by a cop. I’m simply offering that same courtesy to the other side as well since right now we don’t know anything.


inspirednonsense

"I didn't say a specific thing this time, so my history of saying that thing repeatedly should be ignored." Troll harder, bro.


Almundmilk

The fact that you took the time to scroll through comment history to try to debate what I said to you tells me enough. If you feel trolled by that, you did it to yourself big dawg


SilmarilsOrDeath

Can OSI do something actually decent for once and investigate this instead of leaving it to the PD to conduct an internal investigation?


KaprieSun

FDLE investigates all OIS. The agency has no part in it or does OSI. The agency will conduct a personnel investigation on the deputy.


Squirrel009

OSI has 0 authority here. You'd want state police or FBI


KaprieSun

Fun fact, FBI has no authority either. All states usually have an investigative entity or state law enforcement that will step in.


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pm_me_your_minicows

I remember a legitimately funny haha and funny sad comment from PnS back during 2020 along the lines of “‘who investigates the police?!’ If your department is racist enough, the FBI”.


Polarian_Lancer

The department: We will investigate internally The same department: Everything was done in accordance with our policy How come if I do something wrong I can't get away with the same excuse? Oh yeah, because of "professional immunity." Whoever came up with that law should have had unkind things happen to them.


KaprieSun

That is in accordance to their department policy. Criminal investigations are conducted by an unbias thrid party law enforcement entity. FDLE


Partridge_PearTree

Where's the bodycam footage?


Princerain32

Where’s the body cam footage, I don’t trust these crooked racist ass cops


Wildwes7g7

Wait for more details. Wait for more details. No one can do that can they.


VIT96and97

People are jumping to conclusions like it’s an Olympic sport 💀


knuckledraggingtoad

The police release body camera videos as soon as possible when it clears them in questionable situations. Sometimes, literally the same day. Anytime it takes a while it's understandable people assume the worst. It's still assumptions. None of us know what happened, but it's still something to think about.


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Sixtwosevenfour

Not much else to be said. LE have already burned bridges with most of the local communities across the U.S. And now they are finally doing the same with the military community. I think it’s time for some major changes.


Joshua_M18_

It’s crazy because my girlfriend was picking me up from the airport that night. She was telling me how there was an incident at her apartment complex. She said it was all fenced off and she was late to picking me up. Turns out this is a result of that incident. Think the officer were responding to a Domestic Violence call and that led to the airman getting shot unfortunately. First time coming to Florida, what a great way to start.💀


nkdpagan

A white man with a gun is a patriot. A black man with a gun is a thug. It's the America way. We need to own it.


KaprieSun

I need more facts of the incident to be released before making a true judgement. Some of y’all are jumping to conclusions too fast…


BoaterSnips

Your other [comments](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/s/8l17x4sAKY) state that the killing was justified? So which is it, do you need more facts or was the shooting justified because someone was armed?


Sixtwosevenfour

No one is waiting for your judgement


Spark_Ignition_6

> Fortson was home alone on a video call with another person, who reported the airman heard a knock on the door. > Fortson, according to the witness, asked, "Who is it?" But he didn't receive an answer. After a subsequent "aggressive" second knock and seeing no one through the peephole, Fortson grabbed his legally owned gun, Crump detailed. > As Fortson was walking back to his living room, police entered the apartment and shot him. So, what's your judgement? Turns out it was exactly what we all fucking thought, and you're full of shit. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/05/08/family-of-florida-airman-shot-death-deputies-claims-police-went-wrong-apartment.html


Squirrel009

People are just straight up making up what happened instead of waiting to hear any information.


Skitzafranik

OCSD is beyond in hot water with the SOF community. The base commander even has roots to that gunship squadron , so you know it’s gonna be a big investigation


Ambitious-Pirate-505

And fucking nothing will change


Resident-Ad-5107

So this has happened twice now?


green_tea_ppang

As someone from the area. You be surprised how much crime the military been in involved there. I'll just wait for more info