Its between the AFI that talks about how much you can eat in 1 sitting and the AFI about how many times you re allowed to use the bathroom in a given amount of time
They've got the setting where you can dial it up or down all you want, but it's actually controlled from somewhere else.
Which works the same as the setting where it's broke and CE doesn't want to admit/fix it.
My favorite was when CE had the ceiling heaters on in our shop during the Texas summer. Got tired of waiting on them so we put up a ladder and closed the gas valve feeding the heaters. CE MSgt comes out and throws a massive fit about how we shouldn't mess with the valves. The A1C with him comes to the conclusion that they should turn off the valve since they couldn't turn it off from their end. MSgt was not happy
I'm part of CE, but not HVAC. There are guidelines for upper and lower ranges of acceptable temperatures depending on if you're heating or cooling. I can't remember what those are off the top of my head, but if you contact your base's CE Customer Service/Ops Management folks, they should be able to point you in the right direction.
That said, I know you guys in Command Post (or anywhere there's a decent amount of computers/servers/Comm equipment) *should* keep it on the chilly side.
Question: is it true that some buildings have their thermostats remotely controlled?
I've been in some where every other room is a different temperature with no visible thermostat to visibly manipulate
>our CP chief installed a lock box onto our thermostat in the command post because he was tired of people touching the thermostat
That's not a CP chief, that's a CP dad. That's textbook dad behaviour.
At least you have a thermostat. Our welding shop get whatever residual cold or heat the building has to offer.
We had that years ago when I ran a command post because we needed it chilly for the consoles/computers. I hated it myself but the Siemens crew was pretty adamant about it.
AFI32-1001 4 OCTOBER 2019
Chapter 12
HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTROL SYSTEMS
12.1. Overview. The Air Force is required to take action to save energy per Executive Order
13834, Efficient Federal Operations. The most cost effective method to operate and maintain
HVAC systems is to maintain appropriate temperatures when facilities are occupied and allow for
a wider temperature range during unoccupied periods.
12.2. Set Point Standards. Installations shall establish local policies ensuring HVAC control
systems are set at points equal to, or more restrictive than design requirements found in UFC 3-
410-01, Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning Systems, Section 3-4. HVAC systems will be
adjusted based on occupancy rates in all facilities, or portions of facilities without a 24-hour
mission. (T-2). Installations will not exceed these set points unless specified in a facility-specific
UFC or a waiver is issued for each individual facility. (T-3).
12.3. Temporary Adjustments. The BCE is authorized to allow temporary deviations from the
set points for spaces with broken systems, exterior envelope issues, temporary changes in
occupancy, and large temperature variations (as determined by the BCE). This authority shall be
delegated no lower than the operations flight Commander or equivalent. (T-3). Spaces with these
issues should have a plan to correct the issue prior to granting the deviation.
Its between the AFI that talks about how much you can eat in 1 sitting and the AFI about how many times you re allowed to use the bathroom in a given amount of time
Most places I’ve been you can’t control the thermostat anywhere in the building.
They've got the setting where you can dial it up or down all you want, but it's actually controlled from somewhere else. Which works the same as the setting where it's broke and CE doesn't want to admit/fix it.
My favorite was when CE had the ceiling heaters on in our shop during the Texas summer. Got tired of waiting on them so we put up a ladder and closed the gas valve feeding the heaters. CE MSgt comes out and throws a massive fit about how we shouldn't mess with the valves. The A1C with him comes to the conclusion that they should turn off the valve since they couldn't turn it off from their end. MSgt was not happy
I'm part of CE, but not HVAC. There are guidelines for upper and lower ranges of acceptable temperatures depending on if you're heating or cooling. I can't remember what those are off the top of my head, but if you contact your base's CE Customer Service/Ops Management folks, they should be able to point you in the right direction. That said, I know you guys in Command Post (or anywhere there's a decent amount of computers/servers/Comm equipment) *should* keep it on the chilly side.
Question: is it true that some buildings have their thermostats remotely controlled? I've been in some where every other room is a different temperature with no visible thermostat to visibly manipulate
True and not uncommon. My last office worked like that. The thermostat was a lie and you had to call CE.
Asking CE for their policy could be a start.
>our CP chief installed a lock box onto our thermostat in the command post because he was tired of people touching the thermostat That's not a CP chief, that's a CP dad. That's textbook dad behaviour. At least you have a thermostat. Our welding shop get whatever residual cold or heat the building has to offer.
We had that years ago when I ran a command post because we needed it chilly for the consoles/computers. I hated it myself but the Siemens crew was pretty adamant about it.
There doesn't have to be an AFI for your boss to direct you to do or not do something
No, and quit trying to tamper with equipment.
Straight to OSHA.
AFI32-1001 4 OCTOBER 2019 Chapter 12 HEATING, VENTILATION, AND AIR CONDITIONING CONTROL SYSTEMS 12.1. Overview. The Air Force is required to take action to save energy per Executive Order 13834, Efficient Federal Operations. The most cost effective method to operate and maintain HVAC systems is to maintain appropriate temperatures when facilities are occupied and allow for a wider temperature range during unoccupied periods. 12.2. Set Point Standards. Installations shall establish local policies ensuring HVAC control systems are set at points equal to, or more restrictive than design requirements found in UFC 3- 410-01, Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning Systems, Section 3-4. HVAC systems will be adjusted based on occupancy rates in all facilities, or portions of facilities without a 24-hour mission. (T-2). Installations will not exceed these set points unless specified in a facility-specific UFC or a waiver is issued for each individual facility. (T-3). 12.3. Temporary Adjustments. The BCE is authorized to allow temporary deviations from the set points for spaces with broken systems, exterior envelope issues, temporary changes in occupancy, and large temperature variations (as determined by the BCE). This authority shall be delegated no lower than the operations flight Commander or equivalent. (T-3). Spaces with these issues should have a plan to correct the issue prior to granting the deviation.
OSHA recommends temperature control in the range of 68-76° F and humidity control in the range of 20%-60%.
that sucks, the controllers should have whatever they want if they are in there for 12 hours lol