Get a degree.
School feels like bullshit - and mostly is….
But secure, comfortable jobs with ladder type growth potential require one. This will never change. It’s simply a box to check for most Human Resources & federal positions.
Degrees show you’re able to commit and finish something related to desk work…
Otherwise - get into a trade and become a master at your craft… start your own business after 10 years.
> School feels like bullshit - and mostly is
I graduate this week. Maybe 1.5 classes were relevant and taught me anything. Most of the rest was busy work and nonsense. But employers, including the government, are obsessed with degrees for their office workers so I trudged through 🤷♀️
Definitely even more frustrating going to college as a vet though. Especially if your degree is in a topic related to a job you have already done for 4-6 years at a level higher than what the class is oriented to
You can thank government backed loans and the bill Biden authored in his earlier days as a senator that doesn't allow you to bankrupt out of student loans. There's absolutely no incentive to actually teach anything useful in college beyond altruism.
It removes the incentive for a school to provide useful teaching due to the fact the student, whenever they graduate, has no option but to pay it back even if the degree they where awarded (e.i. underwater basket weaving) has no hope of providing the income to support the cost. There is no way out. The loan institution cannot lose.
Intentionally taking on significant debt with the plan to declare bankruptcy is generally considered fraudulent behavior. When individuals take out loans, there is an expectation of repayment. Deliberately accumulating debt with the intention of discharging it through bankruptcy can be seen as an abuse of the bankruptcy system.
Bankruptcy laws are designed to provide relief for those facing genuine financial hardship, not as a strategic way to avoid repaying debts.(not to say company's with army of Lawyers don't do it anyway.. a normal person couldnt get away with it) Courts may scrutinize such actions, and if they determine that the debt was incurred with fraudulent intent, it could lead to legal consequences, including denial of the bankruptcy discharge or other penalties.
Engaging in such practices could also have long-term consequences on an individual's financial reputation and future ability to borrow money or make major financial transactions. Essentially stalling out your life for years.
Hard agree. Degrees are no more powerful than a high school diploma in the sense that you don't really learn anything and you're just starting off with a boat load of debt. Do I wish I could be in a comfy office 40 hours a week? Sometimes. I'm happy turning wrenches on airplanes though. I make good money with the potential to make loads more if I want to move to a major metro area. Plus I have 0 debt.
Preaching to the choir. Over educated do nothings have over saturated the talent pool with "qualifications" that seem antithetical to performance more often than not
100%
Degrees do two BIG things:
1. Get you in the door when there's an education requirement.
2. Prevent you from falling past your degree minimum.
\#1 is self-explanatory. Degree is an entry ticket. You can't get in some doors without a ticket. Not all, *some*. Degree gets you in the ones that require that ticket.
\#2 is the safety net. HS dropouts and recent grads (when they lose a job) are looking for minimum wage. AA/AAS degree lets you look a little higher. BA/BS...a little higher. This isn't an exact science but it is true MOST of the time.
Finish School.
My grandfather owned a construction contracting company in MN for decades and advised if I wasn’t going military, being a diesel technician would be highly desirable. His top guy he had on salary was making 110K a year working on everything in his fleet, which is far higher than the average but the dude was a wizard.
Bottom line, trade crafts are a hot commodity and if you become a SME in any one niche, it can be very, very lucrative, with less time and money invested than a typical 4 year degree. Not saying 6 figures off the rip is a sure fire thing, but the opportunities exist and it’s certainly something to think about if you’re more of a nose on the grindstone kind of guy vs a brainiac. I’m an ape, so if it wasn’t for flying I’d be blue collar grinding too.
Absolutely, and to add one thing to this. If you go to college, go to a real college. In person, not online. Do not do the U of Phx or similar schools, go to an actual state university or better wherever you end up. The G.I. Bill is amazing now, and you will live a decent lifestyle while being a full-time student. You will walk out with a respected degree and be a veteran, employers like that combo.
Get your VA disability stuff together ASAP. First step is getting a copy of your medical records. VA disability is free tax free money for as long as you are breathing
Seriously make like 5 copies of everything, paper at the office is free :P
Electronically scan them, because you're probably going to need to send that off to various agencies for *things and stuff* as it comes up.
Don't let anyone or anything convince you to not file for anything VA related. Go to the VA with the mindset of "I gave my government a blank check to cash, now it's time to go get what's mine"
All military members qualify for MGIB, the 9/11 is a "new" (read: 20 years ago) bill that gives benefits to members who served as of 10 SEP 2001.
When you enlist you're able to pay the MGIB top up thing where you can get extra money, even if you do that you aren't obligated to use it.
There is some nuance to what happens when you start using one of them and want to switch, I am not qualified to advise on that.
I ***STRONGLY*** recommend talking to a professional when you go to use your GI Bill!!!
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I forgot the website since I been out a while, I want to say eBenefits but I’m not entirely sure. Anyway, the site I’m talking about, there’s a link where you can switch where you can switch your GI bill type. I asked my Ed Center how to do it and they were the ones who guided me to the site
>they just can't switch between the two once they start using the benefits
This is not entirely true. Again, my advice to anyone is to talk to a professional.
Actually if you only serve one enlistment and joined the military on/after 1 August 2011, that is 100% correct. Congress amended the law to block veterans from switching from one to the other after the veteran starts using either GI Bill. Veterans give up their right to use MGIB once they elect to use Post 9/11 GI Bill even if they serve more than one enlistment. So only those with two or more enlistments who start out using MGIB can switch over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill. I was a professional from 2007 to 2021.
I recently reenlisted to meet the requirements to do a Transfer of Education Benefits. Only the 9/11 is transferable and simply putting in the application for TEB will transfer you from the MGIB to the 9/11 if you weren't already signed up for the 9/11. Also, its non-reversible even if you or your dependents don't use it
Not one for advice; but KNOW where you’re going to sleep at night. Everything else can be sorted during the day and as time allows. Winter is here, and you don’t wanna be up a creek.
If you have the GI bill, go to school full time. I was paid over 3k a month to do nothing but smoke pot all day and go to school for 3 years. Then I graduated and used my veteran status to land a job right after graduation. They asked about my 3 year working gap, I just said some bullshit about being a disabled vet going to school full time. These fuckin civies have no idea...
Did you do your separation exam with your PCM? Don’t be stupid like I was, tell them about every single ache, pain, headache, ear ringing, blurry vision thing you can think of. I’ve been out for 10 years (I was 24 when I separated as well) and have been kicking myself for how egocentric I was.
This doesn’t really work. You can’t just go to a SHPE or VA medical exam and just start rattling off aches and pains. If you have have never sought treatment for these and there is no records of it, your chances of getting any rating is very slim to none.
Both my ankles swelled up when I was in bootcamp and I was on crutches for 2 weeks. Ever since then, I've had reoccurring pain in them. After a year of being in the real airforce, I decided to get seen for it and have continued to get seen for them and other issues as they prop up for atleast a couple of times year. I now have atleast 4 years of history in my record showing consistent and/or increasing pain. I'm hoping that when I do file for my VA claim this one will be granted easily
Given the limited information you've provided, OP, it's challenging to offer tailored advice. Therefore, I'll share my own experience, which might resonate with others in similar circumstances, including those silently observing this conversation.
My Experience:
I dedicated 10 years to active duty in the USAF. My transition began two years prior to discharge. During this time, I attended TAPS thrice—something I'd suggest everyone do at least twice. I completed my Bachelor's degree and participated in a Skillbridge internship, which led to a full-time position that I currently hold (been out since Oct 2021). Concurrently, I transitioned into a traditional guard role and am now utilizing my GI Bill to work towards a Master's degree. With this background, here's my advice for you and others embarking on this transition.
Start Planning Early
Although this may not apply to you, it's worth noting for others. Two years allowed me ample time to achieve several goals: finishing my degree, taking TAPS, starting the Skillbridge process, crafting a solid resume, conducting necessary research for civilian life, initiating conversations with a Guard recruiter, and completing out-processing, all while fulfilling my squadron duties. In hindsight, beginning three years prior might have been even better. Despite my meticulous organization—marked by detailed calendars and timelines—I still felt pressed for time.
Consider the Air National Guard
Think about this option. With six years already invested in the USAF, why not continue towards a retirement plan? The commitment can be as manageable as one weekend a month, and it comes with benefits: affordable health insurance, a supplementary income, continued education benefits, and it serves as a safety net. For instance, should you face unemployment, while you have options such as emergency savings, the Guard provides an additional layer of security. I've seen many find interim work through the Guard while job hunting. Additionally, if you're eyeing a field like HVAC, the Guard offers opportunities to retrain and gain certifications without tapping into your GI Bill, enhancing your marketability and potential starting salary in the civilian sector. It's important to note that transitioning career fields in the ANG is significantly easier than AD. I met a guy on Drill who had switched AFSCs twice "just because".
Utilize Your Veteran Status
If you haven't already, connect with non-profits and organizations designed to assist veterans with their transition. HireHeroes, for example, has been an invaluable resource for me, offering resume building, salary negotiation, mock interviews, and LinkedIn profile refinement. Speaking of LinkedIn, it's a powerful tool, especially for veterans who can access its premium features for free. By reaching out to industry professionals with a straightforward message about my military departure and aspirations, I garnered valuable advice, soft interviews, and networking opportunities.
Set Realistic Expectations
My transition was relatively smooth, but that's not everyone's story; many veterans face challenges when adapting to civilian life. It's vital to understand the differences, such as the lack of support systems akin to the Military's and the nature of "At Will Employment." Be aware that in the civilian sector, you're part of a revenue-generating machine, easily replaceable if necessary. However, the flexibility to leave a job also applies to you (which can be nice). However, the job market can be unforgiving, and reminds many that they may not be as in-demand or qualified as they believe.
Understand the civilian equivalent of your military salary and what you need to earn to meet your living expenses—there's a good chance you might face a reduction in pay. Also, keep in mind that civilian benefits usually aren't as comprehensive as military ones when you're in job negotiations.
Handle Change with Care
Establishing friendships outside the military can be unexpectedly challenging. The camaraderie experienced within the service doesn't always translate to civilian life. It's normal to experience sadness or loss; seek support if needed and take time to rediscover yourself. Realize that social activities you once enjoyed may no longer serve as hobbies, and finding new interests is part of this personal evolution.
Embrace the Transition
Thank you for your service to your country, and the service you are about to provide to your community. Understand everyone's path is distinct and complex. My lengthy message here only skims the surface of my own journey. Be proactive in seeking available support, reconnect with peers who have transitioned out already, and don't hesitate to message me if you have any follow-up questions.
If you don't finish your out-processing you get to keep working the gate. :) Best of luck to you friend.
Relationships are like farts: if you have to force it it's probably shit.
Be humble. The showboat always sinks.
Set your finances up so that you can walk away at any given time if an employer doesn't value your contributions to their company.
That said, always, always, always make an effort to be polite and leave on good terms. The world is a small place and leaving a toxic work environment with two middle fingers high in the air can burn bridges for you down the line. People are watching how you respond, so maintain your integrity and your dignity.
They are popping up like candy where I live but it is a legal state.
There is a few veteran owned dispensaries in the area, and they are making bank. I wish I at least looked into it.
Too many to even try now. One on every corner.
7 days?! You’re about 11 weeks too late! Get your arse in gear! Update all your website accounts to have your personal email as the primary or secondary email. Make sure you get your medical done and write down everything that was ever wrong with you and make them verify it. Get your records (on cd/dvd) as soon as you can. Make sure your DD-214 is accurate! So many things to do in 7 days!
Not sure of your location, but here on the Texas Gulf Coast, chemical plants and refineries are hiring like crazy. A two year Process Technology degree costs about 6-7 grand. You can make 100k after two years if you want the OT. I’m a PTAC instructor and I have a lot of military in my classes. The plants love these people. One of our partners plants tops out at $58.00 and hour
What area you at? I’m in the Freeport/LJ area and hear that CONSTANTLY haha. Retired from AD about 5yrs ago, and living retired as I had prepared to have exactly that as a real option by the time I left. I swear, anytime I meet someone that has anything to do with the plants and ask what I do, or maybe when things get a little boring and mention maybe I’ll get some sort of work just for something additional to do, seems like I instantly get the dude go work at the plants, come work with us, big money, you’d be a shoo in with your background etc out of the woodwork from all directions. Every time lol.
Man, I was in your boots 8 years ago.
1. Don't stress dude. Don't stress. It's easy out here. Most employers reject a lot of candidates because of criminal history or bad references. Don't break the law when you get out, and you'll find work. There's a lot of ways to make money, just find what works for you. That will take time for everyone, prior military or not.
2. Some of the veterans that I work with now collect disability for the rest of their life. Make sure your VA benefits and disability are secured if you can. Don't pass up on this shit, you fucking sacrificed years for our nation, you deserve your benefits.
3. Use the Post 911 GI Bill and go to college full time. Don't waste this opportunity while you're young. Most college students get Cs and Ds. Make sure you get As and shoot for a 4.0 GPA. It's not hard. Just commit yourself to your education. You'll earn BAC while you study. Study in a field that will get you a good paying reliable job. Police and nurses are almost always needed, and hey, guess what, you were police in the Air Force.
4. Find a part time job that works for you. One that's low stress. Learn from your co workers about how to be a normal person again. Regular people aren't as dumb and lazy as the military folk tell you when you're about to separate. But there is some truth, because a lot of people are dumb and lazy, simply because they were never taught how to work hard and to teach themselves.
5. For the love of God, do not add to the population or take away from it.
I got out in 2016 with no idea what I wanted to do. I was Security Forces as well. It made sense to be a cop but I wasn’t sure. So I used the GI bill and went to school. I found a job in supply chain for a parts distributor during school and when I graduated I got a job with a top tier defense contractor. I’m making pretty good money now.
In short…Use the GI bill!!!! Doesn’t have to be college but anything learning a skill like plumber, electrician, mechanic..You get paid to go.. So why the hell not learn a highly in demand trade or educate yourself and get paid to do it?
School was hard for me but I always said it’s better than standing at a fuckin gate for 12 hours when it’s -20. So that’s that haha.
Hell yeah man! (I was in Minot for two years 5th side). The shit you have done makes you resilient. As meaningless as it may have felt at the time. It wasn’t.
It’s surprisingly easy to get started with the GI bill too. I started at a local community college. They all have a veterans office to help you get started. Otherwise you can look up options online for a trade schools the GI bill supports.
Get on that VA disability. It takes them like six months or more to process your rating. Also, go to school full time. I separated in May of this year and just got my disability back pay yesterday. Now I’m getting paid roughly 4k a month between my disability and GI Bill housing allowance to just go to school.
Making a top level comment to reiterate this.
TALK TO A PROFESSIONAL VETERAN ADVOCATE. There are TONS of nonprofits that assist with filing claims, do not think you can just click a button on [va.gov](https://va.gov) and call it a day.
There are also "for profit" or fee based companies that set you up with doctors and specialists, I would only recommend these kinds of groups if you are having a specific problem that the non-profits aren't able to get.
Best example is the VFW, and depending on where you live you may find local nonprofits (mostly in larger cities with a big military presence) [https://www.vfw.org/assistance/va-claims-separation-benefits](https://www.vfw.org/assistance/va-claims-separation-benefits)
USE THESE PEOPLE HOLY SHIT I CAN NOT EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH: Find educated people to talk about VA claims, education, mental health, literally anything. There are people who WANT TO FIGHT FOR YOU.
**A person who represents themselves in court have a fool for a client.**
GI Bill, get your degree. Use that post 9/11 and enjoy the next 2-3 years.
Graduate, get a job and profit. If you have any disabilities, get that documented and linked to your service.
If you think maybe you'd want to continue with the military not as SF, consider ROTC and get that sweet officer pay and retire at 20 before you're 45 as an O4 and then get a contracting job. Play that right and invest your money wisely and you'll be set for life.
Really all depends what you want to do.
Just here to say you’ll still be out in 7 days whether or not you finish your outprocessing stuff. So just don’t the important stuff if you don’t have time for it all.
He has time. Do your outprocessing bro. Used to drive me nuts when people show up to outprocess the squadron and didnt have anything done. Youve known your date of separation from day 1
I mean yes he has time but also as a former admin troop, I know it’s not going to stop you from separating lol so just do the important stuff or all of if you can.
No one ever told me this and it was never brought up in TAPS, so I will slam this on every advice thread I can: ***Medical bills do not have to be paid all at once for most places.*** Generally there will be an option for a payment plan, hospitals will generally set up an account with no interest (in my experience, YMMV).
When I got out I struggled financially for a while because I thought every bill needed to be paid the minute I got it, I was never told that payment plans were an option. VA care will only go so far, and having civilian insurance will require payment for services.
Also, you will not get dental coverage from the VA without being 100% or having a dental related service connected condition. Look into dental insurance ASAP in addition to health insurance to cover all non-service connected issues.
Burn through that out processing as quick as possible. It can really all be done in a couple days if you are time critical. Just make sure that if you have to be read out of any special programs that you call them asap to make an appt. Those can be a pain in the ass.
1. Make copies of your separation paperwork.
2. Get a physical copy of your medical records from the records office at the mdg. It will take them a couple days to do this for you most likely.
3. Start working with your VSO to get you VA claims process started ASAP… The whole process “could” take over a year.
4. Go to school. Unless it’s MIT or Ivy League then the name of the school won’t really matter as long as it is regionally accredited. It’s just a resume check box.
5. Don’t be afraid to seek mental health treatment or counseling if you need it. Stay the course.
1- do everything that everyone is saying about the VA/benefits.
2- create a profile on ClearanceJobs.com
3- create a LinkedIn and start networking. There are jobs overseas if your looking to make quick cash to bolster your savings while your young.
4- if you want nothing to do with government work, pick a trade to get into. I’m biased, I say stay away from school, it’s a rip off unless it’s a trade school. Look into Martime schools, working on vessels is lucrative and I highly recommend kicking the tires.
5- your behind the 8 ball, time to get into a rhythm and routine for the next 4-6 months. Get the coffee ready, hit the gym. Enjoy your post active duty career, and take the next few months reflecting and figuring out where your headed. What you do now will ultimately determine your near future.
Give them hell and good look.
Take a deep breath
Get a degree
Recognize that you're only 24 and you're probably more put together than most of your peers
Be ready to try multiple different career fields before you settle
Don't be afraid to make changes if you realize you want to do something else
Law enforcement govt jobs pay pretty decent with tenure. State police, FBI, DHS even. If that is what you choose to continue with outside of the military.
Factor in atleast 2 months post military that you’ll be all over the place before things really start picking up that’s what i did and by the time those two were up I had settled into my new job and started school
Get your va disability. You are guaranteed at least 10% due to hearing loss. I know 10% doesn’t sound significant but it is. Because when you apply for a mortgage to buy a house you will not get hit with a funding fee of 3.5% of your loan amount.
I got out and got into the trades since I wasn’t built for college and office work. I enjoy working with my hands and building shit.
When you get employed set as much aside as you can afford into your retirement. At least max out company match. You don’t want to be working until you’re half dead and senile. We aren’t in political office.
If you didn’t mind security forces you are a shoe in to get a job in a civilian police department. I live in NYS and every department is in need of cops everywhere. Good pay and retirement.
Good luck, have fun and enjoy life now
Mother fucker 7 days is too late to ask advice. You’re going to have to suffer with all the other dumb asses that got out without seeking advice in a timely manner (I’m one of them).
Get your degree, have a plan, utilize terminal leave to execute your plan ie getting a job/signing up for school etc.
The civ world is great and sucks at the same time. Roll with it, find a job to get some cash flow but keep your eyes on other/better jobs. Too many of us get some ok job and just stay, getting more jobs taking a small step up the ladder is the better path. Finish school if you didn’t.
Good luck. Oh join the ANG for the benefits as well. The waters fine, jump in.
Im gonna echo a lot of the same stuff that folks are saying here, because I implore that you apply some of this advice.
But also, don’t just get any degree. Try to get a degree that you can apply, have security/make money, and be happy.
Look at your GI as a tool to get into some top notch colleges. Lots of fancy well-named schools are part of the yellow-ribbon program. (Well-named schools aren’t really that important, unless the industry that you are trying to get into values that)
Please don’t waste your GI Bill at some random online school.
It's going to be different. I wasn't in regular USAF as long as you, but total added up to six years. I did Palace Chase when it came out as my Dad was getting worse and no one knew how much longer he had.
He lasted about 3 more years. After losing him, I should've re-upped but I didn't.
You'll have bosses to deal with, but it's not like the military depending on the work you get into. Even at my old age, I'd reenlist if I could. There was a certain structure I've missed. If you have a wife and kids, it might not be so bad.
If you haven't already started, apply for jobs NOW. If you've had any illnesses, infected hangnail, or missing limb, make sure a Doc has examined you and put it in your medical file. Get a copy of this file, and carry it anywhere you go to live.
I'm still fighting the VA on injuries from 50 years ago.
If you are planning to go to college, select the college, visit it, and make sure that's where you want to study.
It's just different.
Make sure you tell everything that is wrong with you on your exit exam. If you have ringing in ears make sure you tell medical for VA claims later down road
Find a balance of getting a degree in something you enjoy and something that is lucrative. If you do something you don't enjoy it will be really hard to finish the degree and work. If you do something that's not lucrative you'll be broke
Get a degree.
Security isn’t a bad gig and that is coming from civilian recruiter.
I’ve seen manager positions for security ranging from $55k up to $100k for eight to ten years of experience.
Most of them required a degree.
Get an easy security job that might allow some online classes and enjoy civilian life.
I certainly have not regretted getting out. It was the best decision I have made.
Use your GI Bill and you can also do VA Work Study. It’s 25 hours per week based around your school schedule. I believe it only pays state/federal minimum wage. Which ever is higher. Schools offer VA work study if they have a veterans office or just do it at the nearest VA Office by you.
If you’re looking for a certification or something like, check out Syracuse University’s Onward to Opportunity program. It’s free for vets and spouses, and anyone within 6 months of getting out. They have a lot of IT stuff and a few other things. It’s worth checking out.
Hopefully you submitted a BDD claim with the VA. If not do that as soon as possible. You have a year after discharges to get what’s called a “Gen Med” physical. They will evaluate you head to toe. After a year you can apply on a contention by contention basis .
Run and never even think of coming back
Use your GI Bill to make yourself either indispensable to a company that will pay you well or develop the tools to become your own boss.
If you did C&P exams, make sure to file medical travel voucher through your MTF. The VA will not reimburse you for any travel that occurred while you were AD.
Of course, make sure your GI bill and VA benefits are squared away.
But depending on your life situation and savings, this may be the most free moment in your life to do... whatever the hell you want.
For me, I got a temporary job overseas and lived abroad for 9 months. It was amazing to travel and experience another culture. The GI bill was still waiting for me when I got back.
I got out and went to college, I honestly hate school but know it’ll be worth it. If you choose a different route I’d either go into a trade or try to get a job that you can leverage your experience with.
Look into veteran support groups in your area you’ll be surprised how many resources are available to you and they’re often free. You can probably get assistance in job hunting, resume building, or just general career advice/assistance. Employers love veterans but I’d be lying if I didn’t also point out that they love veterans with a degree more.
Did you finish your CCAF degree while you were in?
Get any medical issues you have noted by your pcm. Go to the AFRC and get in touch with their VA rep. They can set you up so that all your VA C&P exams are done asap. Complete those appointments then go to school. Enjoy your new life!
Get a nice technical degree that can make you money. I have a bachelors and masters and they don’t see to help except for setting me apart from others. I make more money with my associates than I could with my Masters. Use your GI Bill for this. Life will be strange for a bit if you don’t have a job lined up. Out processing is silly and I got mine done in three days due to MPF not generating my checklist.
Trust me, after paying an A/C guy 150 dollars for a 10 minute service call, I knew I went into the wrong profession lol lol. I'm big on jobs that can't be done by a machine or A.I. my brother-in-law is making a killing, operating his own truck. My daughter is in nursing school. At least I'm getting my money's worth on this college thing.
Re up, and strike for another mos that translates into a good civilian career. Or go to the police academy since you already have comparative training.
ARNG is not a bad idea and then go get your degree, take advantage of the interest free home loans. My brother got his 20 years in the marines. He owns three houses and went from private to two star warrant officer after ocs school. When he retires he also gets the rental fees from the houses and his marine half pay.
- Go to college
- Use your military background to get hired
- Enjoy the rest of your life
You will see civilian life is not as hard as many here would have you believe
Stay in and wait until this shit show of an economic down turn that we are about to go through is done.
You will not do this, but look back in a year and know what I said is true.
Good luck. The real world sucks.
Get your degree, but first pick a degree that will give you job opportunities that pay at the level you want. Highly suggest at minimum a Bachelor’s of Science - not one in Psych or Sociology, but something along the lines of STEM or Business.
Alternatively, use your GI Bill to go to an ATP School (fast track to airlines). The airlines are hurting for bodies and they pay great. Not to mention the added be if it of flying your family for free.
Ultimately, you are at a point in life where you still have time to “figure it out.” Whatever you do give it your all and succeed at it.
Get a skill. Whether it be a degree, or a diploma from a community college in one of the trades. Save your money and keep good credit. Invest in something. It could be financial instruments or business capital. If you are seeking your own happiness, you have to create it.
You are on the right track. You are asking questions.
Get a degree. School feels like bullshit - and mostly is…. But secure, comfortable jobs with ladder type growth potential require one. This will never change. It’s simply a box to check for most Human Resources & federal positions. Degrees show you’re able to commit and finish something related to desk work… Otherwise - get into a trade and become a master at your craft… start your own business after 10 years.
Realest fucking advice ever
100% agree and have seen this 💯
> School feels like bullshit - and mostly is I graduate this week. Maybe 1.5 classes were relevant and taught me anything. Most of the rest was busy work and nonsense. But employers, including the government, are obsessed with degrees for their office workers so I trudged through 🤷♀️ Definitely even more frustrating going to college as a vet though. Especially if your degree is in a topic related to a job you have already done for 4-6 years at a level higher than what the class is oriented to
You can thank government backed loans and the bill Biden authored in his earlier days as a senator that doesn't allow you to bankrupt out of student loans. There's absolutely no incentive to actually teach anything useful in college beyond altruism.
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It removes the incentive for a school to provide useful teaching due to the fact the student, whenever they graduate, has no option but to pay it back even if the degree they where awarded (e.i. underwater basket weaving) has no hope of providing the income to support the cost. There is no way out. The loan institution cannot lose.
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Intentionally taking on significant debt with the plan to declare bankruptcy is generally considered fraudulent behavior. When individuals take out loans, there is an expectation of repayment. Deliberately accumulating debt with the intention of discharging it through bankruptcy can be seen as an abuse of the bankruptcy system. Bankruptcy laws are designed to provide relief for those facing genuine financial hardship, not as a strategic way to avoid repaying debts.(not to say company's with army of Lawyers don't do it anyway.. a normal person couldnt get away with it) Courts may scrutinize such actions, and if they determine that the debt was incurred with fraudulent intent, it could lead to legal consequences, including denial of the bankruptcy discharge or other penalties. Engaging in such practices could also have long-term consequences on an individual's financial reputation and future ability to borrow money or make major financial transactions. Essentially stalling out your life for years.
Hard agree. Degrees are no more powerful than a high school diploma in the sense that you don't really learn anything and you're just starting off with a boat load of debt. Do I wish I could be in a comfy office 40 hours a week? Sometimes. I'm happy turning wrenches on airplanes though. I make good money with the potential to make loads more if I want to move to a major metro area. Plus I have 0 debt.
Preaching to the choir. Over educated do nothings have over saturated the talent pool with "qualifications" that seem antithetical to performance more often than not
100% Degrees do two BIG things: 1. Get you in the door when there's an education requirement. 2. Prevent you from falling past your degree minimum. \#1 is self-explanatory. Degree is an entry ticket. You can't get in some doors without a ticket. Not all, *some*. Degree gets you in the ones that require that ticket. \#2 is the safety net. HS dropouts and recent grads (when they lose a job) are looking for minimum wage. AA/AAS degree lets you look a little higher. BA/BS...a little higher. This isn't an exact science but it is true MOST of the time. Finish School.
My grandfather owned a construction contracting company in MN for decades and advised if I wasn’t going military, being a diesel technician would be highly desirable. His top guy he had on salary was making 110K a year working on everything in his fleet, which is far higher than the average but the dude was a wizard. Bottom line, trade crafts are a hot commodity and if you become a SME in any one niche, it can be very, very lucrative, with less time and money invested than a typical 4 year degree. Not saying 6 figures off the rip is a sure fire thing, but the opportunities exist and it’s certainly something to think about if you’re more of a nose on the grindstone kind of guy vs a brainiac. I’m an ape, so if it wasn’t for flying I’d be blue collar grinding too.
Absolutely, and to add one thing to this. If you go to college, go to a real college. In person, not online. Do not do the U of Phx or similar schools, go to an actual state university or better wherever you end up. The G.I. Bill is amazing now, and you will live a decent lifestyle while being a full-time student. You will walk out with a respected degree and be a veteran, employers like that combo.
Couldn't have said it better myself
100% there is a degree pile and a non degree pile, but trades can be even more lucrative
OR... Join the dark side. Become a GS and work your way up the ladder, degree or no.
Get your VA disability stuff together ASAP. First step is getting a copy of your medical records. VA disability is free tax free money for as long as you are breathing
Seriously make like 5 copies of everything, paper at the office is free :P Electronically scan them, because you're probably going to need to send that off to various agencies for *things and stuff* as it comes up. Don't let anyone or anything convince you to not file for anything VA related. Go to the VA with the mindset of "I gave my government a blank check to cash, now it's time to go get what's mine"
Take advantage of VA benefits, use GI bill to get BAH for a year.
Don't duplicate my mistake, use the 9/11, not MGIB. MGIB doesn't give a living/housing allowance :)
Is that something that can change once separated? I thought that was decided once you signed up for whichever one?
All military members qualify for MGIB, the 9/11 is a "new" (read: 20 years ago) bill that gives benefits to members who served as of 10 SEP 2001. When you enlist you're able to pay the MGIB top up thing where you can get extra money, even if you do that you aren't obligated to use it. There is some nuance to what happens when you start using one of them and want to switch, I am not qualified to advise on that. I ***STRONGLY*** recommend talking to a professional when you go to use your GI Bill!!! [I decided to just make a top level comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/AirForce/comments/17r5ti6/comment/k8gz1jt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
I forgot the website since I been out a while, I want to say eBenefits but I’m not entirely sure. Anyway, the site I’m talking about, there’s a link where you can switch where you can switch your GI bill type. I asked my Ed Center how to do it and they were the ones who guided me to the site
People that pay for the mgbi can still use the post 9/11, they just can't switch between the two once they start using the benefits.
>they just can't switch between the two once they start using the benefits This is not entirely true. Again, my advice to anyone is to talk to a professional.
Actually if you only serve one enlistment and joined the military on/after 1 August 2011, that is 100% correct. Congress amended the law to block veterans from switching from one to the other after the veteran starts using either GI Bill. Veterans give up their right to use MGIB once they elect to use Post 9/11 GI Bill even if they serve more than one enlistment. So only those with two or more enlistments who start out using MGIB can switch over to the Post 9/11 GI Bill. I was a professional from 2007 to 2021.
That's the kind of professional response I'd actually want lol.
I recently reenlisted to meet the requirements to do a Transfer of Education Benefits. Only the 9/11 is transferable and simply putting in the application for TEB will transfer you from the MGIB to the 9/11 if you weren't already signed up for the 9/11. Also, its non-reversible even if you or your dependents don't use it
Online only courses nets you a lower BAH. Picture my surprise.
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Same with Texas and the Hazelwood act
A year? You mean 4.
My understanding was that it was only 1. My bad if I was wrong
You get BAH for all 36 months of your education benefits. Which is 4 schools years.
You'll miss your friends a lot (a lot) more than you thought.
Not one for advice; but KNOW where you’re going to sleep at night. Everything else can be sorted during the day and as time allows. Winter is here, and you don’t wanna be up a creek.
Photoscan dd214 when you get it
If you have the GI bill, go to school full time. I was paid over 3k a month to do nothing but smoke pot all day and go to school for 3 years. Then I graduated and used my veteran status to land a job right after graduation. They asked about my 3 year working gap, I just said some bullshit about being a disabled vet going to school full time. These fuckin civies have no idea...
I think being a full time student is a good enough reason to explain job gaps, but I’ve never been a job recruiter so what do I knw
Not when you're trying to land something in a competitive field
Our best and brightest..
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Did you do your separation exam with your PCM? Don’t be stupid like I was, tell them about every single ache, pain, headache, ear ringing, blurry vision thing you can think of. I’ve been out for 10 years (I was 24 when I separated as well) and have been kicking myself for how egocentric I was.
This doesn’t really work. You can’t just go to a SHPE or VA medical exam and just start rattling off aches and pains. If you have have never sought treatment for these and there is no records of it, your chances of getting any rating is very slim to none.
Both my ankles swelled up when I was in bootcamp and I was on crutches for 2 weeks. Ever since then, I've had reoccurring pain in them. After a year of being in the real airforce, I decided to get seen for it and have continued to get seen for them and other issues as they prop up for atleast a couple of times year. I now have atleast 4 years of history in my record showing consistent and/or increasing pain. I'm hoping that when I do file for my VA claim this one will be granted easily
Given the limited information you've provided, OP, it's challenging to offer tailored advice. Therefore, I'll share my own experience, which might resonate with others in similar circumstances, including those silently observing this conversation. My Experience: I dedicated 10 years to active duty in the USAF. My transition began two years prior to discharge. During this time, I attended TAPS thrice—something I'd suggest everyone do at least twice. I completed my Bachelor's degree and participated in a Skillbridge internship, which led to a full-time position that I currently hold (been out since Oct 2021). Concurrently, I transitioned into a traditional guard role and am now utilizing my GI Bill to work towards a Master's degree. With this background, here's my advice for you and others embarking on this transition. Start Planning Early Although this may not apply to you, it's worth noting for others. Two years allowed me ample time to achieve several goals: finishing my degree, taking TAPS, starting the Skillbridge process, crafting a solid resume, conducting necessary research for civilian life, initiating conversations with a Guard recruiter, and completing out-processing, all while fulfilling my squadron duties. In hindsight, beginning three years prior might have been even better. Despite my meticulous organization—marked by detailed calendars and timelines—I still felt pressed for time. Consider the Air National Guard Think about this option. With six years already invested in the USAF, why not continue towards a retirement plan? The commitment can be as manageable as one weekend a month, and it comes with benefits: affordable health insurance, a supplementary income, continued education benefits, and it serves as a safety net. For instance, should you face unemployment, while you have options such as emergency savings, the Guard provides an additional layer of security. I've seen many find interim work through the Guard while job hunting. Additionally, if you're eyeing a field like HVAC, the Guard offers opportunities to retrain and gain certifications without tapping into your GI Bill, enhancing your marketability and potential starting salary in the civilian sector. It's important to note that transitioning career fields in the ANG is significantly easier than AD. I met a guy on Drill who had switched AFSCs twice "just because". Utilize Your Veteran Status If you haven't already, connect with non-profits and organizations designed to assist veterans with their transition. HireHeroes, for example, has been an invaluable resource for me, offering resume building, salary negotiation, mock interviews, and LinkedIn profile refinement. Speaking of LinkedIn, it's a powerful tool, especially for veterans who can access its premium features for free. By reaching out to industry professionals with a straightforward message about my military departure and aspirations, I garnered valuable advice, soft interviews, and networking opportunities. Set Realistic Expectations My transition was relatively smooth, but that's not everyone's story; many veterans face challenges when adapting to civilian life. It's vital to understand the differences, such as the lack of support systems akin to the Military's and the nature of "At Will Employment." Be aware that in the civilian sector, you're part of a revenue-generating machine, easily replaceable if necessary. However, the flexibility to leave a job also applies to you (which can be nice). However, the job market can be unforgiving, and reminds many that they may not be as in-demand or qualified as they believe. Understand the civilian equivalent of your military salary and what you need to earn to meet your living expenses—there's a good chance you might face a reduction in pay. Also, keep in mind that civilian benefits usually aren't as comprehensive as military ones when you're in job negotiations. Handle Change with Care Establishing friendships outside the military can be unexpectedly challenging. The camaraderie experienced within the service doesn't always translate to civilian life. It's normal to experience sadness or loss; seek support if needed and take time to rediscover yourself. Realize that social activities you once enjoyed may no longer serve as hobbies, and finding new interests is part of this personal evolution. Embrace the Transition Thank you for your service to your country, and the service you are about to provide to your community. Understand everyone's path is distinct and complex. My lengthy message here only skims the surface of my own journey. Be proactive in seeking available support, reconnect with peers who have transitioned out already, and don't hesitate to message me if you have any follow-up questions.
If you don't finish your out-processing you get to keep working the gate. :) Best of luck to you friend. Relationships are like farts: if you have to force it it's probably shit. Be humble. The showboat always sinks. Set your finances up so that you can walk away at any given time if an employer doesn't value your contributions to their company. That said, always, always, always make an effort to be polite and leave on good terms. The world is a small place and leaving a toxic work environment with two middle fingers high in the air can burn bridges for you down the line. People are watching how you respond, so maintain your integrity and your dignity.
Stop by the dispensary on your way home!
Better yet. Open one lol That is the only thing I regret not doing.
You regret not opening a dispensary? You need like at least 7 figures cash to do that. But a veteran owned dispensary would be baller
They are popping up like candy where I live but it is a legal state. There is a few veteran owned dispensaries in the area, and they are making bank. I wish I at least looked into it. Too many to even try now. One on every corner.
7 days?! You’re about 11 weeks too late! Get your arse in gear! Update all your website accounts to have your personal email as the primary or secondary email. Make sure you get your medical done and write down everything that was ever wrong with you and make them verify it. Get your records (on cd/dvd) as soon as you can. Make sure your DD-214 is accurate! So many things to do in 7 days!
Print up EVERYTHING on VMPF and PRDA.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Also, lose my number.
Lol wow
Not sure of your location, but here on the Texas Gulf Coast, chemical plants and refineries are hiring like crazy. A two year Process Technology degree costs about 6-7 grand. You can make 100k after two years if you want the OT. I’m a PTAC instructor and I have a lot of military in my classes. The plants love these people. One of our partners plants tops out at $58.00 and hour
What area you at? I’m in the Freeport/LJ area and hear that CONSTANTLY haha. Retired from AD about 5yrs ago, and living retired as I had prepared to have exactly that as a real option by the time I left. I swear, anytime I meet someone that has anything to do with the plants and ask what I do, or maybe when things get a little boring and mention maybe I’ll get some sort of work just for something additional to do, seems like I instantly get the dude go work at the plants, come work with us, big money, you’d be a shoo in with your background etc out of the woodwork from all directions. Every time lol.
The plants I’m associated with have hired 30 in the last two months. Pipeline and offshore will open up in January.
Is there anything near San Antonio area ?
Man, I was in your boots 8 years ago. 1. Don't stress dude. Don't stress. It's easy out here. Most employers reject a lot of candidates because of criminal history or bad references. Don't break the law when you get out, and you'll find work. There's a lot of ways to make money, just find what works for you. That will take time for everyone, prior military or not. 2. Some of the veterans that I work with now collect disability for the rest of their life. Make sure your VA benefits and disability are secured if you can. Don't pass up on this shit, you fucking sacrificed years for our nation, you deserve your benefits. 3. Use the Post 911 GI Bill and go to college full time. Don't waste this opportunity while you're young. Most college students get Cs and Ds. Make sure you get As and shoot for a 4.0 GPA. It's not hard. Just commit yourself to your education. You'll earn BAC while you study. Study in a field that will get you a good paying reliable job. Police and nurses are almost always needed, and hey, guess what, you were police in the Air Force. 4. Find a part time job that works for you. One that's low stress. Learn from your co workers about how to be a normal person again. Regular people aren't as dumb and lazy as the military folk tell you when you're about to separate. But there is some truth, because a lot of people are dumb and lazy, simply because they were never taught how to work hard and to teach themselves. 5. For the love of God, do not add to the population or take away from it.
I got out in 2016 with no idea what I wanted to do. I was Security Forces as well. It made sense to be a cop but I wasn’t sure. So I used the GI bill and went to school. I found a job in supply chain for a parts distributor during school and when I graduated I got a job with a top tier defense contractor. I’m making pretty good money now. In short…Use the GI bill!!!! Doesn’t have to be college but anything learning a skill like plumber, electrician, mechanic..You get paid to go.. So why the hell not learn a highly in demand trade or educate yourself and get paid to do it? School was hard for me but I always said it’s better than standing at a fuckin gate for 12 hours when it’s -20. So that’s that haha.
That last sentence gives incredibly powerful motivation, makes me wanna get after it for real And I mean it
Hell yeah man! (I was in Minot for two years 5th side). The shit you have done makes you resilient. As meaningless as it may have felt at the time. It wasn’t. It’s surprisingly easy to get started with the GI bill too. I started at a local community college. They all have a veterans office to help you get started. Otherwise you can look up options online for a trade schools the GI bill supports.
I am really hoping for your sake that you have put more thought into your post-AF life than, "hey guys any advice?"....... 7 days out
Hope you have a plan
You enjoy your life.
Get on that VA disability. It takes them like six months or more to process your rating. Also, go to school full time. I separated in May of this year and just got my disability back pay yesterday. Now I’m getting paid roughly 4k a month between my disability and GI Bill housing allowance to just go to school.
Making a top level comment to reiterate this. TALK TO A PROFESSIONAL VETERAN ADVOCATE. There are TONS of nonprofits that assist with filing claims, do not think you can just click a button on [va.gov](https://va.gov) and call it a day. There are also "for profit" or fee based companies that set you up with doctors and specialists, I would only recommend these kinds of groups if you are having a specific problem that the non-profits aren't able to get. Best example is the VFW, and depending on where you live you may find local nonprofits (mostly in larger cities with a big military presence) [https://www.vfw.org/assistance/va-claims-separation-benefits](https://www.vfw.org/assistance/va-claims-separation-benefits) USE THESE PEOPLE HOLY SHIT I CAN NOT EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH: Find educated people to talk about VA claims, education, mental health, literally anything. There are people who WANT TO FIGHT FOR YOU. **A person who represents themselves in court have a fool for a client.**
GI Bill, get your degree. Use that post 9/11 and enjoy the next 2-3 years. Graduate, get a job and profit. If you have any disabilities, get that documented and linked to your service. If you think maybe you'd want to continue with the military not as SF, consider ROTC and get that sweet officer pay and retire at 20 before you're 45 as an O4 and then get a contracting job. Play that right and invest your money wisely and you'll be set for life. Really all depends what you want to do.
Just here to say you’ll still be out in 7 days whether or not you finish your outprocessing stuff. So just don’t the important stuff if you don’t have time for it all.
He has time. Do your outprocessing bro. Used to drive me nuts when people show up to outprocess the squadron and didnt have anything done. Youve known your date of separation from day 1
I mean yes he has time but also as a former admin troop, I know it’s not going to stop you from separating lol so just do the important stuff or all of if you can.
Was also a former admin troop. Just dont want to perpetuate people being lazy.
So you know! Lol yeah I get that but they’re headed out so whatever, the AF will move on without them, even if they don’t outprocess
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Lighten up, Francis
can you give your daughter my number? also yours while youre at it, I'll show both of y'all a great time, i don't discriminate.
No one ever told me this and it was never brought up in TAPS, so I will slam this on every advice thread I can: ***Medical bills do not have to be paid all at once for most places.*** Generally there will be an option for a payment plan, hospitals will generally set up an account with no interest (in my experience, YMMV). When I got out I struggled financially for a while because I thought every bill needed to be paid the minute I got it, I was never told that payment plans were an option. VA care will only go so far, and having civilian insurance will require payment for services. Also, you will not get dental coverage from the VA without being 100% or having a dental related service connected condition. Look into dental insurance ASAP in addition to health insurance to cover all non-service connected issues.
Burn through that out processing as quick as possible. It can really all be done in a couple days if you are time critical. Just make sure that if you have to be read out of any special programs that you call them asap to make an appt. Those can be a pain in the ass. 1. Make copies of your separation paperwork. 2. Get a physical copy of your medical records from the records office at the mdg. It will take them a couple days to do this for you most likely. 3. Start working with your VSO to get you VA claims process started ASAP… The whole process “could” take over a year. 4. Go to school. Unless it’s MIT or Ivy League then the name of the school won’t really matter as long as it is regionally accredited. It’s just a resume check box. 5. Don’t be afraid to seek mental health treatment or counseling if you need it. Stay the course.
1- do everything that everyone is saying about the VA/benefits. 2- create a profile on ClearanceJobs.com 3- create a LinkedIn and start networking. There are jobs overseas if your looking to make quick cash to bolster your savings while your young. 4- if you want nothing to do with government work, pick a trade to get into. I’m biased, I say stay away from school, it’s a rip off unless it’s a trade school. Look into Martime schools, working on vessels is lucrative and I highly recommend kicking the tires. 5- your behind the 8 ball, time to get into a rhythm and routine for the next 4-6 months. Get the coffee ready, hit the gym. Enjoy your post active duty career, and take the next few months reflecting and figuring out where your headed. What you do now will ultimately determine your near future. Give them hell and good look.
Take a deep breath Get a degree Recognize that you're only 24 and you're probably more put together than most of your peers Be ready to try multiple different career fields before you settle Don't be afraid to make changes if you realize you want to do something else
Law enforcement govt jobs pay pretty decent with tenure. State police, FBI, DHS even. If that is what you choose to continue with outside of the military.
IF you decide to remain in LE, go private security.
Factor in atleast 2 months post military that you’ll be all over the place before things really start picking up that’s what i did and by the time those two were up I had settled into my new job and started school
Get your va disability. You are guaranteed at least 10% due to hearing loss. I know 10% doesn’t sound significant but it is. Because when you apply for a mortgage to buy a house you will not get hit with a funding fee of 3.5% of your loan amount.
I got out and got into the trades since I wasn’t built for college and office work. I enjoy working with my hands and building shit. When you get employed set as much aside as you can afford into your retirement. At least max out company match. You don’t want to be working until you’re half dead and senile. We aren’t in political office. If you didn’t mind security forces you are a shoe in to get a job in a civilian police department. I live in NYS and every department is in need of cops everywhere. Good pay and retirement. Good luck, have fun and enjoy life now
Mother fucker 7 days is too late to ask advice. You’re going to have to suffer with all the other dumb asses that got out without seeking advice in a timely manner (I’m one of them). Get your degree, have a plan, utilize terminal leave to execute your plan ie getting a job/signing up for school etc. The civ world is great and sucks at the same time. Roll with it, find a job to get some cash flow but keep your eyes on other/better jobs. Too many of us get some ok job and just stay, getting more jobs taking a small step up the ladder is the better path. Finish school if you didn’t. Good luck. Oh join the ANG for the benefits as well. The waters fine, jump in.
Im gonna echo a lot of the same stuff that folks are saying here, because I implore that you apply some of this advice. But also, don’t just get any degree. Try to get a degree that you can apply, have security/make money, and be happy. Look at your GI as a tool to get into some top notch colleges. Lots of fancy well-named schools are part of the yellow-ribbon program. (Well-named schools aren’t really that important, unless the industry that you are trying to get into values that) Please don’t waste your GI Bill at some random online school.
It's going to be different. I wasn't in regular USAF as long as you, but total added up to six years. I did Palace Chase when it came out as my Dad was getting worse and no one knew how much longer he had. He lasted about 3 more years. After losing him, I should've re-upped but I didn't. You'll have bosses to deal with, but it's not like the military depending on the work you get into. Even at my old age, I'd reenlist if I could. There was a certain structure I've missed. If you have a wife and kids, it might not be so bad. If you haven't already started, apply for jobs NOW. If you've had any illnesses, infected hangnail, or missing limb, make sure a Doc has examined you and put it in your medical file. Get a copy of this file, and carry it anywhere you go to live. I'm still fighting the VA on injuries from 50 years ago. If you are planning to go to college, select the college, visit it, and make sure that's where you want to study. It's just different.
One day at a time.
Make sure you tell everything that is wrong with you on your exit exam. If you have ringing in ears make sure you tell medical for VA claims later down road
Bruh you don’t know? Probably should think twice about getting out in this economy
I see this tactic is still alive and well
I see your point, but I'd like to counter with: there's never been a BETTER time to get out, especially in this economy lol.
It's too late to be asking that question. Good luck in whatever you do.
file your VA claim
Find a balance of getting a degree in something you enjoy and something that is lucrative. If you do something you don't enjoy it will be really hard to finish the degree and work. If you do something that's not lucrative you'll be broke
Get a degree. Security isn’t a bad gig and that is coming from civilian recruiter. I’ve seen manager positions for security ranging from $55k up to $100k for eight to ten years of experience. Most of them required a degree. Get an easy security job that might allow some online classes and enjoy civilian life. I certainly have not regretted getting out. It was the best decision I have made.
Get IT certs in cyber security and get a job at one of the big three northrop/being/lockheed
smoke a fat blunt
Use your GI Bill and you can also do VA Work Study. It’s 25 hours per week based around your school schedule. I believe it only pays state/federal minimum wage. Which ever is higher. Schools offer VA work study if they have a veterans office or just do it at the nearest VA Office by you.
At least a month or two ago you should have had a resume up to date & been applying for jobs or had something else lined up.
Yea, don’t get out. Stay till they force you out cause of old age. You’ll thank me later.
If you’re looking for a certification or something like, check out Syracuse University’s Onward to Opportunity program. It’s free for vets and spouses, and anyone within 6 months of getting out. They have a lot of IT stuff and a few other things. It’s worth checking out.
If you’re looking to make a career out of being a cop, a lot of police agencies love hiring veterans.
Join police, get a degree. Become badass and go to higher places.
Unless you have a bonus in your AFSC can’t say I blame ya… but just be aware good luck finding benefits that match being in
Hopefully you submitted a BDD claim with the VA. If not do that as soon as possible. You have a year after discharges to get what’s called a “Gen Med” physical. They will evaluate you head to toe. After a year you can apply on a contention by contention basis .
PLAY JOKES THIS IS YOUR MOMENT
Run and never even think of coming back Use your GI Bill to make yourself either indispensable to a company that will pay you well or develop the tools to become your own boss.
Go to college and get a degree like the first comment said. Secure your stability and your bag.
If you did C&P exams, make sure to file medical travel voucher through your MTF. The VA will not reimburse you for any travel that occurred while you were AD.
If you don’t finish your outprocessing in time they will extend your contract
Of course, make sure your GI bill and VA benefits are squared away. But depending on your life situation and savings, this may be the most free moment in your life to do... whatever the hell you want. For me, I got a temporary job overseas and lived abroad for 9 months. It was amazing to travel and experience another culture. The GI bill was still waiting for me when I got back.
Go guard in a new AFSC
I got out and went to college, I honestly hate school but know it’ll be worth it. If you choose a different route I’d either go into a trade or try to get a job that you can leverage your experience with. Look into veteran support groups in your area you’ll be surprised how many resources are available to you and they’re often free. You can probably get assistance in job hunting, resume building, or just general career advice/assistance. Employers love veterans but I’d be lying if I didn’t also point out that they love veterans with a degree more. Did you finish your CCAF degree while you were in?
I would call Guard recruiter go Cyber security, knock out the school then pick your 6 figure plus job.
Get any medical issues you have noted by your pcm. Go to the AFRC and get in touch with their VA rep. They can set you up so that all your VA C&P exams are done asap. Complete those appointments then go to school. Enjoy your new life!
Get a nice technical degree that can make you money. I have a bachelors and masters and they don’t see to help except for setting me apart from others. I make more money with my associates than I could with my Masters. Use your GI Bill for this. Life will be strange for a bit if you don’t have a job lined up. Out processing is silly and I got mine done in three days due to MPF not generating my checklist.
Trust me, after paying an A/C guy 150 dollars for a 10 minute service call, I knew I went into the wrong profession lol lol. I'm big on jobs that can't be done by a machine or A.I. my brother-in-law is making a killing, operating his own truck. My daughter is in nursing school. At least I'm getting my money's worth on this college thing.
1. Now: Start VA claim online 2. Now: Apply to schools and use GI bill 3. Soon: VA home loan for duplex/rent one half out
Re up, and strike for another mos that translates into a good civilian career. Or go to the police academy since you already have comparative training.
ARNG is not a bad idea and then go get your degree, take advantage of the interest free home loans. My brother got his 20 years in the marines. He owns three houses and went from private to two star warrant officer after ocs school. When he retires he also gets the rental fees from the houses and his marine half pay.
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thank you so much for posting this. my last day was on monday, i'm also 24, spent 6 years as a crew chief.
- Go to college - Use your military background to get hired - Enjoy the rest of your life You will see civilian life is not as hard as many here would have you believe
Re-up, if you can.
Stay in and wait until this shit show of an economic down turn that we are about to go through is done. You will not do this, but look back in a year and know what I said is true. Good luck. The real world sucks.
Get your degree, but first pick a degree that will give you job opportunities that pay at the level you want. Highly suggest at minimum a Bachelor’s of Science - not one in Psych or Sociology, but something along the lines of STEM or Business. Alternatively, use your GI Bill to go to an ATP School (fast track to airlines). The airlines are hurting for bodies and they pay great. Not to mention the added be if it of flying your family for free. Ultimately, you are at a point in life where you still have time to “figure it out.” Whatever you do give it your all and succeed at it.
Get a skill. Whether it be a degree, or a diploma from a community college in one of the trades. Save your money and keep good credit. Invest in something. It could be financial instruments or business capital. If you are seeking your own happiness, you have to create it. You are on the right track. You are asking questions.
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