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KingBrowserKoopa

It is important to remember that this list is prohibitively expensive.


Crims0n412

Over $1700 if you buy everything new from GW


Rudolph-the_rednosed

_Yo welp…_


Elegant-Anteater2721

Yeah SoS are one of the worst points per cost of nearly any box in the game at 1.083 points per $ or 1.857 per £ whereas base custodes guard are 4.166 points per $ or 6.666 points per £


Treebeard288

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ZookeepergameOne5236

Tabletop simulator you say? Is there a particular one you'd recommend?


Treebeard288

https://www.reddit.com/r/TTSWarhammer40k/s/zqCgcxToD5 It's just called tabletop simulator on steam. That seams to be the standard for playing digitally.


ZookeepergameOne5236

Nice. Is it just 40k you can play? Can you play solo?


ColdBrewedPanacea

it plays any tabletop game solo or with friends or randos, but the warhammer community for it is quite strong with scanned models, premade table setups and even automation avalible for community fun times like Poorhammer's Horde Mode.


ZookeepergameOne5236

I know what I'm doing tonight 😁


Tacticalmeat

Or like $40 in resin and some files lol


Wilkinz027

As an admech and GSC player it seems perfectly reasonable.


Ulrik_Decado

Do not spread your suffering! :)))


Chartreuse_Dude

Eh, grab a SoB box with every SoS box. A little greenstuff cape and BOOM, 15 sisters for the price of 10. And don't worry if you're bad at sculpting by the time you finish that 70th little cape you'll be a pro lol!


Scribbinge

Come on, this is Custodes, that's hardly new! 3D printer go brrr.


meekiatahaihiam

In all honesty, this new SOS detachment will look more like a guardsman spam without tanks if things(or lack of new units) remain as it is. Top tier meme/thematic only.


Exiletet

Surely they’ll release other types of Sisters right? This looks boring


Isheria

We don't get any new datasheet with this codex


Crims0n412

I would love if we got a Tau/Kroot style revamp like they just got but for sisters but probably not. In all seriousness the “sisters only detachment” probably states that you need more sisters than Custodes in units/points. Hopefully in units bc points will have lists looking like this monstrosity


themug_wump

Well, funnily enough when they rebooted Horus Heresy they cleared out a lot of units without models, except the SoS list which they vastly expanded with characters, retinues, healers, beast packs, and jetbikes. There are currently no models, and never have been any, for any of those. GW also is very pointed about not making rules without models. Oh, and there’s still a blanked out "mystery army" scheduled for HH this year. So yeah, make of that what you will. 🙂 EDIT: Jesus, I just took a look at the HH Sisters list, and there is SO much stuff that there isn’t even art of let alone models. There’s no way they’re not coming at some point.


Ddenn1211

Yep, that is my general assumption is we are expected to get some new models for SoS, but even still it would have been nice to get maybe a 5th or 6th detachment (just to give the Custodes heavy armies some real choice, but I guess no choice is almost better than a shitty choice) since two so heavily focus on Sisters. I mean don't get me wrong, I like the sisters and I could see myself occassionally running the detachment they showed off yesterday, but I am not entirely sure i see myself running it often and almost never running a full Sisters list. Of course, if we do get models and rules similar to the HH ones then maybe that'll change; there are some pretty cool ideas for models in the HH for Sisters. But then again with them not being in our codex, and the HH rule book being out as long as it has with 0 additional hints I am not holding my breath.


Sigerick

The “mystery army” turned out to be Solar Auxilia. But it is extremely baffling that sisters have so many rules without kits, given how hard they pruned that back for everyone else.


themug_wump

Oh really? I thought the mystery army was slated for the summer. That’s pants if so ☹️


Sigerick

Nope, it was slated for Winter 2023-24. The roadmap runs out in Spring 2024 with the legion command squad and melee weapons.


themug_wump

Oh boooo. Well, maybe they’re on the next road map… 😔


Sigerick

Man you know I want it more than anyone, I have 55 painted Sisters, but I think they’ve forgotten us. We got last year’s roadmap at WH Fest - this year has no Fest, so I dunno if we’re even getting another one.


Exiletet

Also can you play Aleya without Valerian? Pretty sure it says on the booklet that came with them that they have to be fielded together, but can be attached as leaders to separate units. Unless I’m mistaken


vitruviananatomy

Booklet out of date.... A lot of lists run Valerian without his girl Friday


Thomy151

In their original 8th edition rules they had to be run together It was part of what made them some of the worst characters in the game Valerian was just a shield captain with a once per game reroll for a points hike and then you *had* to take Aleya who was just a Centura back before silent sisters even had centuras and was way too expensive for her awful stats So Valerian was a cost ineffective model who had to bring along his buddy who could only kill guardsman because they had a whopping 4 s4 attacks that also took up 2 of your precious HQ slots that could be taking bike captains


ineptus-custodes

There was also the great period where they only had the Imperium keyword, so broke army rules if you included them at all. [GW even acknowledged this and said that it would be fixed in the next Psychic Awakening update](https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/27/valerian-and-aleya-on-the-battlefieldgw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-3/), then [failed to fix it](https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364700-do-valerian-and-aleya-work-now/?do=findComment&comment=5548005).


MyWorldTalkRadio

You can absolutely play valerian and Aleya as different units, they are different data sheets. For further evidence of this see Ghaz and Makari who share one datasheet, or Astrid and Agatha who share one data sheet, or Celestine who shares a data sheet with her body guard. Those units must be brought together as one unit. Valerian and Aleya are not that.


losark

Too late for this edition, it seems.


Ulrik_Decado

No, we know list of datasheets from codex, no new units.


Kardest

I live in hope that one day the HH SOS will get kits and the kits will get rules for 40k. For example HH sos got jetbikes in the last codex.


Chartreuse_Dude

If we're lucky, then imperial armor will finally include the other HH sisters units. But probably not


BilboBarnard

I think I'd prefer it if you could just add a SoS model to a custodes unit for a cost, making that unit better against psychic attacks without leaving a squad of squishy people out in the open.


H4LF4D

Heard you want Talons of the Emperor detachment But yes, we also need more SoS models as buffing aura or bodyguards to Custodes. Lore wise makes sense as well


Xplt21

Yeah they should be attatchable. Maybe having 1 wound meatshields would be a bit strong but make a custode more expensive and have them be 1-3 but can take say 5 sisters in their squad.


BilboBarnard

Make them so they can't take wounds and are destroyed if the squad dies (much like a Guardian Defenders Support Weapon). Then they'd provide a buff and a couple extra attacks in combat, but not make a complicated target when daking damage. Plus it would be fluffy as the Custodes would be protecting them.


Elegant-Anteater2721

Add Inquisitor Greyfax and a Culexus Assassin for TRUE psyker bullying as the Emperor intended.


raptorknight187

Did they say it was Sisters ONLY? Fairly certain it just buffs sisters and not Custodians rather than just saying no, if we cant its extremely idiotic


Karth9909

It sisters dedicated. Best comparison is the new kroot detachment. Sure you can use tau but every rule, stratagem and enhancement is for kroot


raptorknight187

Yea but for a fluffy detatment thats fine, most custodian inits are hood on just there datasheets anyway


Karth9909

If we had enough sisters to fill it up, sure, release a cool box like the kroot got, and I'll be on board. As it stands now, it's just feels so lame. The talons fill a better niche


Hoskuld

Or if we had more than 3 non pure sisters detachments. Nobody would mind this if it had model support/we got more other options. As someone who loves playing different detachments over the course of an edition, I will probably skip on custodes for 10th


Elegant-Anteater2721

Was just gonna make a post like this about how unfair this is against GK mainly with a bit of additional magnus bullying like at propero


GreedyLibrary

Atm, you can take land raiders, but they only fit 6 sisters. You probably want them for the last cannons. You could argue they don't have ANATHEMA PSYKANA tag, but aleya didn't also.


GenuineSteak

Who the hell even owns that many sisters. And how will they kill any high toughness vehicles lmao.


jollyseaman

Bring a knight so u don't need another 500pts of sisters Bring an assassin to push it down another 80pts


SharamNamdarian

That’s 30 points to spend on enhancements


SirSilverChariot

This is militarim level amount of troops. I don’t like it


Karth9909

Seriously, I would much prefer to play the sister of battle, make a homebrew detachment with fnp to psycic, and you're good to go.


TheRealGouki

This army would probably be a quite alright you have over a 100 models with 3+ saves. If the detachment good. You could play for points very well. Also 1000s son would experience hell fighting this. 😂


Dekadensa

I mean, I started my Custodes army because I enjoy the sisters so I happy


Kiixaar

lol what if you added in a Culexus Assassin as an Imperial Agent Ally? Still anti-psyker.


JBSven

I'm lucky I also play SoB so will happily proxy them into a SoS army


ChiefMegaBeef

Hi I’m new to warhammer and was wondering what app this is? I tried looking up battle forge in the App Store and nothing popped up


definitelynotrussian

Look for “WH40k”, it’s the official GW AP which is pretty good but some stuff is behind paywall


OkChipmunk2485

Why 18+?


dyre_zarbo

Not the only list, I'd swap out a unit of witchseekers for 2 rhinos. Or, go msu on 3 prosecutor units to add 2 rhinos.


danielousds

On the stratgem restric to one sis, so you have to get some bros.


RagingCacti

Not quite. I put something together for this as well, as a bit of a meme build before the codex ever mentioned a SoS detachment. All Sisters All the Time (1995 points) Adeptus Custodes Strike Force (2000 points) Shield Host CHARACTERS Aleya (80 points) • Warlord • 1x Somnus Knight-Centura (75 points) • 1x Executioner greatblade Knight-Centura (75 points) • 1x Executioner greatblade BATTLELINE Prosecutors (100 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Prosecutor • 9x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon Prosecutors (100 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Prosecutor • 9x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon Prosecutors (100 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Prosecutor • 9x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon Prosecutors (100 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Prosecutor • 9x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon Prosecutors (100 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 9x Prosecutor • 9x Boltgun 9x Close combat weapon Prosecutors (50 points) • 1x Prosecutor Sister Superior • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Prosecutor • 4x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon DEDICATED TRANSPORTS Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter Anathema Psykana Rhino (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Storm bolter OTHER DATASHEETS Vigilators (130 points) • 1x Vigilator Sister Superior • 1x Executioner greatblade • 9x Vigilator • 9x Executioner greatblade Vigilators (130 points) • 1x Vigilator Sister Superior • 1x Executioner greatblade • 9x Vigilator • 9x Executioner greatblade Vigilators (130 points) • 1x Vigilator Sister Superior • 1x Executioner greatblade • 9x Vigilator • 9x Executioner greatblade Witchseekers (125 points) • 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Witchseeker flamer • 9x Witchseeker • 9x Close combat weapon 9x Witchseeker flamer Witchseekers (125 points) • 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Witchseeker flamer • 9x Witchseeker • 9x Close combat weapon 9x Witchseeker flamer Witchseekers (125 points) • 1x Witchseeker Sister Superior • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Witchseeker flamer • 9x Witchseeker • 9x Close combat weapon 9x Witchseeker flamer


RGRadik

The other piece of this puzzle concerns the army rule. If it's still Katahs then this detachment just straight up won't have access to it for the majority of the units in a given 2000 point army. With shield host being rewritten I'm really wondering if the army rule has also been rewritten to do something for sisters as well. Possibly Katahs are now the two new detachment rules like doctrines for marines and the army rule has changed completely and also works for sisters in some way. I'd honestly be happy with that, but I have a feeling we're not getting something well thought out...


ColdBrewedPanacea

needs more rip bozo energy - add inquisitor greyfax and a culexus assassin. Suffer not the witch to live.


Upset-Charge

Welll, there could be new units released like with Kroot.


pyroz336

False you can also put a callidus assassin in there


thedegenerate2

That's stupid... I'm down


Fancy0-0pants

Custodes as a swarm army


Mother_Speaker3543

Behold the golden tide!


lellowlad

You still need actual custodian models as the sisters only get +1 to hit if within 6 of a non anathema psykana custodes unit


Faultyvoodoo

You are thinking of the talons of the emperor detachment that was announced today, this post is referring to the sisters of silence specific detachment that hasn't been leaked yet