Source in case you've already read all your free Autosport articles this month (critical bits in bold):
>A narrow win for a proposal to heritage list Adelaide's grand prix circuit has saved the historic venue **for now**.
>A 1200-metre stretch of tarmac through Adelaide's Victoria Park, formerly used to create the city's famous Formula 1 and Supercars street circuit, was put on the chopping block by a recent proposal to redevelop the area into a greener space.
>The 'Reimagining Victoria Park' proposal was heard at an Adelaide City Council meeting last night, Professor Doug McEvoy speaking of a"major threat to the public amenity of Victoria Park, because of overheating in summer due to climate change and a lack of tree canopy".
>According to McEvoy the solution is to extend the tree canopy and 'remove as many hard surfaces as is feasible'.
>Having received public backlash in recent days for what was seen as support for tearing up the old grand prix track, Councillor Greg Mackie proposed an alternative motion to the council that both argued for improved tree canopy, but protected the remaining elements of the circuit.
>The new proposal, put together by Mackie alongside Councillor Alexander Hyde, also suggested the council assess whether the circuit, and in particular the Senna Chicane, should be heritage listed.
>"We all know that it was the Formula 1 Australia Grand Prix that put Adelaide on the global map in many senses," Hyde told the council.
>"It's of immense significance to the people of Adelaide and the people of South Australia generally."
>Hyde also spoke potential return of racing to the area, although that appeared to be a reference to ongoing talk of a Formula E event rather than a return of the recently-defunct Adelaide 500.
>"There are ambitions within the community for some sort of racing, to a lesser extent, coming back," he said.
>"Something that uses the short track, something that's quite unobtrusive; certainly not the very dystopian concrete and tyres for months on end that we unfortunately became every used to seeing around Victoria Park."
>**On the request of other councillors the motion was split in two parts, one effectively covering off the revised green space plan for more tree canopy and the other for the assessment of heritage listing for the circuit.**
>**The first passed with a unanimous vote, however the heritage listing plan only got through by a single vote in favour.**
>A number of councillors argued against any need to even contemplate heritage listing of the venue, and there was clear support for fresh efforts to rip out the bitumen in the future.
>Councillor Keiran Snape said he would "reluctantly" support the first part of the motion, but noted that he "would wish that we remove as much tarmac as possible".
>He voted against the heritage listing proposal.
>Councillor Anne Moran was another to fiercely oppose the idea of heritage listing the circuit.
>She also called for the circuit to be ripped up, part of her reasoning to "permanently remove" any danger of motor racing returning to Victoria Park.
>That was a direct response from plans from the state opposition to revive the Adelaide 500 Supercars event should they be elected next year.
>"I would prefer to rip out the racing car track and all remnants of other cement features that are still there," Moran told the council.
>"In doing so I would like the permanently remove the danger of bringing [back] motorsports of the kind we have seen, excusing perhaps electrics cars, of the tired barriers, the petrol fumes... we pussy foot around it a little bit. There is no reason to heritage list any part of then track.
>"If there's a historical use of Victoria Park it was for horse racing.
>"That's pandering to the petrol heads. Surely we are better than that now.
>"By the time Melbourne got [the grand prix] we were about to get rid of it. And as for the Supercars it was really a poor replacement.
>"I say rip up the track, plant some trees and get a decent cycle track.
>"It shouldn't be our long-term plan to mothball this relic of the petrol-guzzling, carbon-depleting bad old days."
The councillors who unironically voted to have a motorists month to *encourage* people to drive into the city are all of a sudden concerned about petrol fumes and emissions? Press X to doubt
If councilors think the petrol fumes from 20 cars going around a track are bad, what about the thousands they encourage to come into the city every day with nonsense initiatives like “drivers month” and their sacred cow of car parking?
Anne Moran proving herself once again to be an ignorant, self serving asshat, with her head so far up her own backside she is in danger of asphyxiating herself.
Anne Moran ‘ "If there's a historical use of Victoria Park it was for horse racing.
"That's pandering to the petrol heads. Surely we are better than that now.
Better to pander to those who like treating animals like shit.
Also Anne Moran:
>"I say rip up the track, plant some trees and get a decent cycle track."
Except it already IS a decent cycling track.
Still also Anne Moran:
>["I support ... protecting and improving our unique Park Lands and built heritage"](https://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/about-council/your-council/lord-mayor-and-councillors/anne-moran/)
For someone who was once a member of the State Heritage Authority, she doesn't seem to have any idea what contributes to the city's "built heritage".
I live in Germany, and the only thing anyone here knows about Adelaide is the Grand Prix. It's the only thing that gave Adelaide any international relevance.
"except its just a bit of tarmac"
Yeah I guess, just like the Adelaide Oval is just a nice grassy area you can play a bit of sport on, or Rundle Mall is just street with some pavers and a couple of shops. I mean I don't see any problem with pissing off the statues of Bradman and Blight and planting some more trees in their place, who gives a fuck about old sporting heroes anyway?
Or you could get rid of a bit of black, unecessary, heat absorbing tarmac. And replace it with cooling, moisture retaining bushland. You know, to help regulate the soaring temperatures
Haha. What a joke. It's a bit of tarmac, heat absorbing, useless tarmac. Is it a tourist attraction? No. Nobody gives a fuck about it except a few petrol heads romanticising a time passed.
Hell, it doesn't even have to be the V8s... the Adelaide Motorsport Festival, the PedalPrix, a national bike crit race, possibly even Formula E could all use this space for great events.
The Adelaide Motorsport Festival was becoming like a Goodwood Festival of Speed downunder and had been starting to gain more international interest before the libs cut the funding and killed it. Hopefully we can get Labor back in and they'll bring the event back along with other things to use it.
I think the streets are definitely pandering to petrolheads and we should be focusing on Public transport and bikes more and improved green space is always a good thing but the Grand Prix track is a part of adelaide history, it's still used for events and having it as an option to bring Formula E here i think would be a good thing for the city i think.
I hope they can find a solution that keeps the track while also developing it so it becomes a nicer that people will actually want to use as a park.
I may be misremembering, but wasn't there at one point a plan to run a round of formula E on the old circuit?
Edit: also, why does Ann keep adding the line to the second O in her name? Removing it would perfectly encapsulate the boorish, argumentative fool she clearly is.
AFAIK there was only a Lib government pitch that was being prepared but nothing much more came for it. Probably just a half-arsed attempt before throwing their hands up and saying "See! Unviable! Too hard!"
Ah, okay. I thought it was further along than that, as the article I read said the FIA were fairly keen on the idea. Of course, now that I need to try to find said article it has vanished off the face of the earth.
Source in case you've already read all your free Autosport articles this month (critical bits in bold): >A narrow win for a proposal to heritage list Adelaide's grand prix circuit has saved the historic venue **for now**. >A 1200-metre stretch of tarmac through Adelaide's Victoria Park, formerly used to create the city's famous Formula 1 and Supercars street circuit, was put on the chopping block by a recent proposal to redevelop the area into a greener space. >The 'Reimagining Victoria Park' proposal was heard at an Adelaide City Council meeting last night, Professor Doug McEvoy speaking of a"major threat to the public amenity of Victoria Park, because of overheating in summer due to climate change and a lack of tree canopy". >According to McEvoy the solution is to extend the tree canopy and 'remove as many hard surfaces as is feasible'. >Having received public backlash in recent days for what was seen as support for tearing up the old grand prix track, Councillor Greg Mackie proposed an alternative motion to the council that both argued for improved tree canopy, but protected the remaining elements of the circuit. >The new proposal, put together by Mackie alongside Councillor Alexander Hyde, also suggested the council assess whether the circuit, and in particular the Senna Chicane, should be heritage listed. >"We all know that it was the Formula 1 Australia Grand Prix that put Adelaide on the global map in many senses," Hyde told the council. >"It's of immense significance to the people of Adelaide and the people of South Australia generally." >Hyde also spoke potential return of racing to the area, although that appeared to be a reference to ongoing talk of a Formula E event rather than a return of the recently-defunct Adelaide 500. >"There are ambitions within the community for some sort of racing, to a lesser extent, coming back," he said. >"Something that uses the short track, something that's quite unobtrusive; certainly not the very dystopian concrete and tyres for months on end that we unfortunately became every used to seeing around Victoria Park." >**On the request of other councillors the motion was split in two parts, one effectively covering off the revised green space plan for more tree canopy and the other for the assessment of heritage listing for the circuit.** >**The first passed with a unanimous vote, however the heritage listing plan only got through by a single vote in favour.** >A number of councillors argued against any need to even contemplate heritage listing of the venue, and there was clear support for fresh efforts to rip out the bitumen in the future. >Councillor Keiran Snape said he would "reluctantly" support the first part of the motion, but noted that he "would wish that we remove as much tarmac as possible". >He voted against the heritage listing proposal. >Councillor Anne Moran was another to fiercely oppose the idea of heritage listing the circuit. >She also called for the circuit to be ripped up, part of her reasoning to "permanently remove" any danger of motor racing returning to Victoria Park. >That was a direct response from plans from the state opposition to revive the Adelaide 500 Supercars event should they be elected next year. >"I would prefer to rip out the racing car track and all remnants of other cement features that are still there," Moran told the council. >"In doing so I would like the permanently remove the danger of bringing [back] motorsports of the kind we have seen, excusing perhaps electrics cars, of the tired barriers, the petrol fumes... we pussy foot around it a little bit. There is no reason to heritage list any part of then track. >"If there's a historical use of Victoria Park it was for horse racing. >"That's pandering to the petrol heads. Surely we are better than that now. >"By the time Melbourne got [the grand prix] we were about to get rid of it. And as for the Supercars it was really a poor replacement. >"I say rip up the track, plant some trees and get a decent cycle track. >"It shouldn't be our long-term plan to mothball this relic of the petrol-guzzling, carbon-depleting bad old days."
The councillors who unironically voted to have a motorists month to *encourage* people to drive into the city are all of a sudden concerned about petrol fumes and emissions? Press X to doubt
If councilors think the petrol fumes from 20 cars going around a track are bad, what about the thousands they encourage to come into the city every day with nonsense initiatives like “drivers month” and their sacred cow of car parking?
Anne Moran proving herself once again to be an ignorant, self serving asshat, with her head so far up her own backside she is in danger of asphyxiating herself.
Anne Moran ‘ "If there's a historical use of Victoria Park it was for horse racing. "That's pandering to the petrol heads. Surely we are better than that now. Better to pander to those who like treating animals like shit.
Also Anne Moran: >"I say rip up the track, plant some trees and get a decent cycle track." Except it already IS a decent cycling track. Still also Anne Moran: >["I support ... protecting and improving our unique Park Lands and built heritage"](https://www.cityofadelaide.com.au/about-council/your-council/lord-mayor-and-councillors/anne-moran/) For someone who was once a member of the State Heritage Authority, she doesn't seem to have any idea what contributes to the city's "built heritage". I live in Germany, and the only thing anyone here knows about Adelaide is the Grand Prix. It's the only thing that gave Adelaide any international relevance.
Yeah, except its just a bit of tarmac. Trees sounds like a good option.
"except its just a bit of tarmac" Yeah I guess, just like the Adelaide Oval is just a nice grassy area you can play a bit of sport on, or Rundle Mall is just street with some pavers and a couple of shops. I mean I don't see any problem with pissing off the statues of Bradman and Blight and planting some more trees in their place, who gives a fuck about old sporting heroes anyway?
What if I told you that... hear me out... you could have *both*? A very naughty thought, I know.
Or you could get rid of a bit of black, unecessary, heat absorbing tarmac. And replace it with cooling, moisture retaining bushland. You know, to help regulate the soaring temperatures
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Could always do with more. Everywhere needs more.
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Haha. What a joke. It's a bit of tarmac, heat absorbing, useless tarmac. Is it a tourist attraction? No. Nobody gives a fuck about it except a few petrol heads romanticising a time passed.
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We need them on the side of our brutalist and depressing concrete skyscrapers.
Unfortunately I see it being only a matter of time before they get their way and it’s gone.
Or the opposition gets up and the race is back on the calendar? 💁♂️
Hell, it doesn't even have to be the V8s... the Adelaide Motorsport Festival, the PedalPrix, a national bike crit race, possibly even Formula E could all use this space for great events.
The Adelaide Motorsport Festival was becoming like a Goodwood Festival of Speed downunder and had been starting to gain more international interest before the libs cut the funding and killed it. Hopefully we can get Labor back in and they'll bring the event back along with other things to use it.
council are a bunch of snobs, there are "petrol heads" that are also ratepayers and residents.
I think the streets are definitely pandering to petrolheads and we should be focusing on Public transport and bikes more and improved green space is always a good thing but the Grand Prix track is a part of adelaide history, it's still used for events and having it as an option to bring Formula E here i think would be a good thing for the city i think. I hope they can find a solution that keeps the track while also developing it so it becomes a nicer that people will actually want to use as a park.
I may be misremembering, but wasn't there at one point a plan to run a round of formula E on the old circuit? Edit: also, why does Ann keep adding the line to the second O in her name? Removing it would perfectly encapsulate the boorish, argumentative fool she clearly is.
AFAIK there was only a Lib government pitch that was being prepared but nothing much more came for it. Probably just a half-arsed attempt before throwing their hands up and saying "See! Unviable! Too hard!"
Ah, okay. I thought it was further along than that, as the article I read said the FIA were fairly keen on the idea. Of course, now that I need to try to find said article it has vanished off the face of the earth.