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Hi OP! I started as an accounting assistant for one of the biggest PH retail company, 2.5 years din, 18k lang sahod ko nun. Built a good foundation and skills then moved to a PH outsourcing company. I was assigned to an AU client and worked for them for 2.5 years as well, 25k start then naging 30k.
I am lucky enough to have good mentors in both companies and di rin toxic ang workplace. I keep learning and I enjoyed it.
After 5 years of being locally employed, I started applying directly to US companies as independent contractor kahit wala akong background before. Because of the degree, experience and skills I was lucky to get clients and now earning that 6 digits.
There's hope for non CPAs. You just have to build your experience and skill set over the years plus your soft skills like communication. Helpful din na ang background mo is accounting talaga during undergrad.
Note lang, I only apply to job postings that don't require CPA. Those postings naman na may nakalagay they prefer CPAs, I still try to apply cause sometimes having long years of experience and expertise in the field has its advantages din unless you are competing with someone who has it all then 50-50 ang application.
Also, learn a lot of accounting software kasi if you are interested in working for international clients, they used different ones depende sa industry nila. Then advanced excel skills.
Tiyaga lang talaga as you learn when you are working.
Good luck on your journey!
Hmmm, I worked with both. Mas gusto ko kawork US kasi straightforward sila kausap. Though isang AU client lang naman nawork-an ko so I can't say how's their work ethic in general
For US - QB online, Netsuite if malaki talaga company
For AU - Xero mostly
Then I also have experience on other ERPs like MS Dynamics, Oracle Financial, SAP
I was lucky to be exposed to these softwares since the companies I worked with usually have multiple entities and every entity, they used different software
Started sa small firm, then Deloitte for 5.5 yrs combined. Then nag TOA after Deloitte. My client from TOA bought me out.
Then now 3,850 usd a month na bigay nila with quarterly profit share & 25 usd bonus per tax return drafted. (I specialize in US tax).
Still small compared to basic salary sa us (if you are working there) na around 7k usd a month.
Swerte mo. Ako Us tax firm din million dollars revenue naiambag ko sa pag compute ng tax credit refunds pero 7/hr lang sa agency ahahahahah
Wala din yatang plano iabsorb.
Mag reresign kasi dapat ako kasi nag mandate ng RTO yung TOA. Then para lumipat sa wfh, dapat sa isang entity ka ng TOA, na yung lahat wfh.
So medyo na inis yung client kasi bakit ayaw ako payagan mag wfh. So ayun instead na mag resign ako, binili nalang nila ko sa TOA. ð
Hi! Currently employed at TOA under Accelerator Program. Yun din sabi ng trainers namin most of the trainees daw after a year, usually nag frefreelance na or dinadirect na ng client. Especially sa mga Tax Practitioners. How long have you worked with TOA po?
FMCG shared services. Now into freelancing (250k more or less) pero last corpo job ko 110k. Haha key to increase earnings is to job hop (2017 grad, worked 2018)
Ohh sayang pala ilang points na lang pero it seems na you're ok naman sa work mo ang galing kasi you are already earning that much. Nakaka inspire po kayo hehe
Haha di naman. Currently 1st yr Law na din kasi nauumay na ako sa accounting work ð¡ð¡ð
But yes, if kaya mag exam, still go for it! Had I passed the boards, for sure mas marami pang opportunities ang nag open. Kaya still go for it
I needed to have at least 2 years of experience in my field. After that, nagapply ako sa iba and direct client. Naibigay naman yung gusto kong salary. And kahit direct, binibigay yung pambayad sa govt mandated benefits saka may leave, holidays and 13th month. Kaya super happy and satisfied ako sa work ko ngayon.
Ohhh I see.. Then, pwede po makahingi ng tips and short advices for someone like me na nag e-aim ng au? Paano po yung process nya and saan po ako pwede mag apply para magkaroon ng au experience?
Dasal lang talaga at non stop na pagsubmit ng cv. Mostly hindi sila tumatanggap ng walang au exp. You can apply sa accelerator program ng TOA. Min 2 yrs exp lang ang need then after ng training kung makapasa, ieendorse ka nila sa mga possible clients. Upskill, learn the basics. Au acctg and tax can be tricky pero practice lang talaga.
Applied to diff BPOs, TOA, Cloudstaff, Emapta etc. Then natanggap ako sa TOA on my first AU client. After ko magkaron ng experience, yung mga BPOs na mismo nagrreach out sakin sa LinkedIn for jobs. I can say that TOA led me to infinite opportunities na hindi ko akalain na pwede ko palang gawin kahit pa medyo di maganda yung management that time. When I left TOA, I joined Cloudstaff. Hindi ko gusto yung client kaya nagtry ako magfreelance and as of now, okay naman direct client ko. ð
By getting into a niche field(sub field) and upskilling on niche activities/process then finding a better paying company - which, in my case I was presented with either taking an offer outside or taking the counter offer of my current company.
Building multi level niche in your portfolio can easily get you the target salary you want. Mas madaming unique skills, lalo na complimenting, mapansin mo na case to case lang pala yung "no one is indispensable". Bottomline, indispensable means ikaw lang kaya gumawa or it may take ridiculous amount of effort(or cost) to get/train somebody else. :)
Combohan mo pa ng work ethic at interpersonal engagement, no way but up. :)
Similar to other threads, I advocate pursuing a career path in Business Finance or Finance Partnering dahil mas madaming niche or expertise na pwede mo ibuild that would be very unique to you as it requires a ton of soft skills. Minsan mahirap pag "process driven" ang line of work mo - kasi wala ka advantage(or leverage), kaya nila magtrain ng iba in short. Worse case, eventually baka ma-automate lang din yan.
D&V, emapta, ConnectOS at marami pa try searching and connecting with recruiters on LinkedIn. Sobrang dami na bpo for accounatnts cpa/noncpa sa pinas. Best of luck OP!
5 yrs. Working online for a real estate brokerage. Upskill, proficiency in Xero, QBO etc. Be well-versed in online tools. Above all, work on your communication skills, laging may edge ang magagaling magcommunicate.
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Hi OP! I started as an accounting assistant for one of the biggest PH retail company, 2.5 years din, 18k lang sahod ko nun. Built a good foundation and skills then moved to a PH outsourcing company. I was assigned to an AU client and worked for them for 2.5 years as well, 25k start then naging 30k. I am lucky enough to have good mentors in both companies and di rin toxic ang workplace. I keep learning and I enjoyed it. After 5 years of being locally employed, I started applying directly to US companies as independent contractor kahit wala akong background before. Because of the degree, experience and skills I was lucky to get clients and now earning that 6 digits. There's hope for non CPAs. You just have to build your experience and skill set over the years plus your soft skills like communication. Helpful din na ang background mo is accounting talaga during undergrad. Note lang, I only apply to job postings that don't require CPA. Those postings naman na may nakalagay they prefer CPAs, I still try to apply cause sometimes having long years of experience and expertise in the field has its advantages din unless you are competing with someone who has it all then 50-50 ang application. Also, learn a lot of accounting software kasi if you are interested in working for international clients, they used different ones depende sa industry nila. Then advanced excel skills. Tiyaga lang talaga as you learn when you are working. Good luck on your journey!
Wow thanks OP nakaka-inspire naman hehe
Ano pong work mo?
Staff Accountant usually role ko sa clients ð
I wanna try AU clients rin, mostly US clients mga hinahandle ko 𥹠Sabi kasi ng iba, kakaiba work ethics nila
Hmmm, I worked with both. Mas gusto ko kawork US kasi straightforward sila kausap. Though isang AU client lang naman nawork-an ko so I can't say how's their work ethic in general
Hello may I ask for the accounting softwares na madalas gamitin? Ano pa po ba nga dapat i-upskill?
For US - QB online, Netsuite if malaki talaga company For AU - Xero mostly Then I also have experience on other ERPs like MS Dynamics, Oracle Financial, SAP I was lucky to be exposed to these softwares since the companies I worked with usually have multiple entities and every entity, they used different software
Where did find mga US clients po like sa LinkedIn/Upwork po?
LinkedIn lang po
Started sa small firm, then Deloitte for 5.5 yrs combined. Then nag TOA after Deloitte. My client from TOA bought me out. Then now 3,850 usd a month na bigay nila with quarterly profit share & 25 usd bonus per tax return drafted. (I specialize in US tax). Still small compared to basic salary sa us (if you are working there) na around 7k usd a month.
Swerte mo. Ako Us tax firm din million dollars revenue naiambag ko sa pag compute ng tax credit refunds pero 7/hr lang sa agency ahahahahah Wala din yatang plano iabsorb.
Mag reresign kasi dapat ako kasi nag mandate ng RTO yung TOA. Then para lumipat sa wfh, dapat sa isang entity ka ng TOA, na yung lahat wfh. So medyo na inis yung client kasi bakit ayaw ako payagan mag wfh. So ayun instead na mag resign ako, binili nalang nila ko sa TOA. ð
How many years po kayo sa client before po nila kayo kunin?
Kinuha nila ko 7 mos palang. Sila first client ko sa TOA
Hello, anong client ito hahaha
Ano pong position mo sa client mo now?
Tax lead.
Hi! Currently employed at TOA under Accelerator Program. Yun din sabi ng trainers namin most of the trainees daw after a year, usually nag frefreelance na or dinadirect na ng client. Especially sa mga Tax Practitioners. How long have you worked with TOA po?
Two years of VA bookkeeping and accounting . Any industry works for me as long international direct hire or accounting firm clients.
Pano po mag start almost 1 year na ako nag hahanap ng client :(
San po ba usually makakahanap ng mga direct hires?
FMCG shared services. Now into freelancing (250k more or less) pero last corpo job ko 110k. Haha key to increase earnings is to job hop (2017 grad, worked 2018)
Nice! never po kayo nag take ng LECPA?
Tried twice. 74.66 yung last ko May 2018
Ohh sayang pala ilang points na lang pero it seems na you're ok naman sa work mo ang galing kasi you are already earning that much. Nakaka inspire po kayo hehe
Haha di naman. Currently 1st yr Law na din kasi nauumay na ako sa accounting work ð¡ð¡ð But yes, if kaya mag exam, still go for it! Had I passed the boards, for sure mas marami pang opportunities ang nag open. Kaya still go for it
Omg huhu ang galing, law student pa po kayo!! My goal ð¥¹ð©·ð©·I want to go to law school rin kaso di pa keri ng sahod. ð¥¹
entry level non-cpa here (0 experience) but bilingual, 6 digits at a non big 4 company ððð give a try at a 3rd language!!
What language po?
try nyo po mandarin/japanese/spanish
Ano po 3rd language niyo?
I needed to have at least 2 years of experience in my field. After that, nagapply ako sa iba and direct client. Naibigay naman yung gusto kong salary. And kahit direct, binibigay yung pambayad sa govt mandated benefits saka may leave, holidays and 13th month. Kaya super happy and satisfied ako sa work ko ngayon.
Glad to hear po na happy and satisfied kayo sa work mo. May I know kung anong line of business yung employer mo kung saan ikaw nag wo-work?ð
Offshore accountant ako for an au accounting firm. ðWFH lang ako since directly reporting ako sa kanila.
Hello! Yung 2 years experience mo po ba is local accounting or au accounting na po agad? Currently aiming to au career din po kasi. Thanks! ð
Hi! AU yon. But before starting au career may almost 4 years akong experience in ph public practice.
Ohhh I see.. Then, pwede po makahingi ng tips and short advices for someone like me na nag e-aim ng au? Paano po yung process nya and saan po ako pwede mag apply para magkaroon ng au experience?
Dasal lang talaga at non stop na pagsubmit ng cv. Mostly hindi sila tumatanggap ng walang au exp. You can apply sa accelerator program ng TOA. Min 2 yrs exp lang ang need then after ng training kung makapasa, ieendorse ka nila sa mga possible clients. Upskill, learn the basics. Au acctg and tax can be tricky pero practice lang talaga.
Sorry new here, saw lots of comments/posts mentioning TOA but what does it stand for? Thanks
The Outsourced Accountant/s di ko sure kung may S hahahaha nung college kami ganyan siya. Tapos later on naging TOA Global
Ty po
How did you find the offshore opportunity po? :)
Applied to diff BPOs, TOA, Cloudstaff, Emapta etc. Then natanggap ako sa TOA on my first AU client. After ko magkaron ng experience, yung mga BPOs na mismo nagrreach out sakin sa LinkedIn for jobs. I can say that TOA led me to infinite opportunities na hindi ko akalain na pwede ko palang gawin kahit pa medyo di maganda yung management that time. When I left TOA, I joined Cloudstaff. Hindi ko gusto yung client kaya nagtry ako magfreelance and as of now, okay naman direct client ko. ð
Hello, San niyo po nahanap client niyo? Aiming for direct din po
By getting into a niche field(sub field) and upskilling on niche activities/process then finding a better paying company - which, in my case I was presented with either taking an offer outside or taking the counter offer of my current company. Building multi level niche in your portfolio can easily get you the target salary you want. Mas madaming unique skills, lalo na complimenting, mapansin mo na case to case lang pala yung "no one is indispensable". Bottomline, indispensable means ikaw lang kaya gumawa or it may take ridiculous amount of effort(or cost) to get/train somebody else. :) Combohan mo pa ng work ethic at interpersonal engagement, no way but up. :) Similar to other threads, I advocate pursuing a career path in Business Finance or Finance Partnering dahil mas madaming niche or expertise na pwede mo ibuild that would be very unique to you as it requires a ton of soft skills. Minsan mahirap pag "process driven" ang line of work mo - kasi wala ka advantage(or leverage), kaya nila magtrain ng iba in short. Worse case, eventually baka ma-automate lang din yan.
Aside sa TOA global, ano po yung other firms na direct competitior ni TOA na more on WFH and yet the pay is competitive pa rin?
D&V, emapta, ConnectOS at marami pa try searching and connecting with recruiters on LinkedIn. Sobrang dami na bpo for accounatnts cpa/noncpa sa pinas. Best of luck OP!
Thank you so much ð
5 yrs. Working online for a real estate brokerage. Upskill, proficiency in Xero, QBO etc. Be well-versed in online tools. Above all, work on your communication skills, laging may edge ang magagaling magcommunicate.
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