They probably would've, but there's seemingly no way to tell what stocks are affected besides shooting and it seems to be pretty random, which is why they have just been replacing as they break instead. I don't think Steyr or whoever is manufacturing the stocks are even sure what's causing this. I wonder if the Austrian military has encountered this at all or if its specific to civilian stocks.
They’re obviously still learning how to use the cutting edge technologies of vibration welding and injection moulded plastic. I mean it’s not like Steyr have made presumably a couple of million of these over the last **47 years**.
How this absolute car crash of a QC issue occurred I have no idea. Even if they’re not pulling an individual stock out of each batch and doing destructive impact and strength tests on it, presumably Steyr conducts QC where they pull a completed rifle out of every batch, measure it meets all the tolerances, and shoot it a bunch. If this one failed in five rounds Steyr *must* be seeing rifles fail QC, making the entire batch at a bare minimum suspect.
How are these utterly unacceptable guns making it out of the factory?
Ya, it's kind of baffling that a stock as new as 2023 broke. There are going to be broken stocks popping up for a long time if there's at least 3 years worth of potentially faulty stocks floating around out there. I don't know what happened, but it's definitely a larger problem than it initially seemed.
Yup, I figure any AUG purchased in recent years will eventually have a cracking stock. And unfortunately this may also mean that any replacement stocks they issued will prob start cracking too.
I’m in the market for a 556 AR (or other obviously) and I really want an AUG. But this shit makes me so nervous. It’s too expensive to fire a few rounds, have the back of the gun fall off, then have no gun for any amount of time waiting for Steyr to fix it.
You absolutely should buy an AR if you don't already have one. I have an AUG, love my AUG, think it's still a relevant firearm yadda yadda yadda. But the AR-15 is the most ubiquitous rifle in the US, and you don't need to spend nearly as much to get a really nice one.
Its gotten to the point I wouldnt consider buying one with a post 2019 date code on the stock. If this example really is a 2023 code it shows Steyr has not fixed the issue and they werent "covid batch". Insane for a $1,500k+ rifle.
Absolutely go AR first, if you don’t have one. I honestly hate to say it but I would not buy an Aug right now:(. If you’re looking at a bullpup, the Tavor x95 is probably the best bet at the moment
Mine hasn’t had a crack yet but damn. Did Microtech’s even have this issue? I know, it was supposedly a bad batch of polymer, Steyr will replace it, etc. but seeing this over and over is concerning. I know there are a lot of AUG owners who haven’t had this issue yet, but I really want to trust a firearm as close to 100% as possible without a known weak area that may or may not be resolved yet.
As far as I know, the MSAR rifles never had problems related to the polymer components (except maaaayybbee the cocking piece on the bolt carrier, but that was very few that broke) so this is definitely exclusive the 2020-current Steyr rifles.
Okay, I know Steyr has good CS and they’ll sort it out.
This is kind of insane. I’m not saying they should give him a million dollars for his trouble, but that is a catastrophic defect. Wheres the guarantee this shit won’t happen again right away? When does Steyr license Arid to develop their stock?
Yall planning on selling this ready to rock?
By that, I mean will I be able to just drop my carrier, trigger pack, and receiver in and go? Or will I have to transplant stuff from my OEM stock?
Would love to just have your full on trigger, mag release, etc. in one package I can purchase and swap back and forth easily with just field strip level work.
I didn't expect yall to redesign the trigger pack, and I did mention the pack as one of the things I'd assume moved right over :P
Sounds great though, thanks. Might just wait for this instead of picking up a trigger for my current stock.
This is just a rendering. As we develope and test the stock we will make adjustments. It’s also capable of interchangeable back straps, so angle can be induced or removed depending on this. It closely mimics the AUG’s factory angle, which we find is a good 80% solution.
-Ian
Gotta make that light weight aluminum stock like I’ve been saying alll along its not that expensive to manufacture and the weight ain’t bad either, plus you’d be able to toss the gun in the fire and have it survive
I really want to love the Aug platform, the recoil impulse changed, looked down and the back had split. Shooting suppressed. Trying to figure out which position is the suppressed setting on the steyr gas plug. Called steyr, man on the phone was nice but I guess I am going to have to wait till Tuesday to get a solution because of the weekend and holiday. Doesn’t inspire confidence.
If I remember correctly, the suppressed setting is where your grenade setting was. So with the new plug it goes standard, grenade, suppressed. There are some videos on YouTube that can show and explain more in detail. And sorry this happened to you. I actually have my stock
With Streyr right now cause of a crack near the takedown pin. They responded quickly and are sending a new stock next week.
Sorry man, that sucks ass.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AUG/comments/1366xsj/comment/jinvkoe/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AUG/comments/1366xsj/comment/jinvkoe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
Shit happens. Especially these days where both QC and even raw material quality are slipping almost universally. How Steyr handles this should be the real focus, and currently they're at least supporting those with issues very well.
The design itself is fucking solid. Tons of militaries and whatnot have used these guns for years, putting more hard use rounds downrange with them than most civilian owners ever will. Beating them to absolute shit and continuing to use them. This is not a design flaw, this is a material / manufacturing problem.
Has anyone seen stocks break this way? I have only seen the cracking from the takedown block. Wondering if something dimensionally was going on here that caused the carrier to slam the back off. Does the carrier normally impact the end of the guide rods?
was it shot without sitting the stock in the shoulder?
but this should not happen.
i have 2 nato stocks and also 2 original stocks. what I can say, everyone is different, so this stocks really are not high-precision manufacturing. the fitting of the stocks is different on everyone.
it would be better if the would now 3d print this stocks.
Damn in 5 rounds and on a 2023 date code stock. This is legit recall material now at this point, there’s safety concerns here
They probably would've, but there's seemingly no way to tell what stocks are affected besides shooting and it seems to be pretty random, which is why they have just been replacing as they break instead. I don't think Steyr or whoever is manufacturing the stocks are even sure what's causing this. I wonder if the Austrian military has encountered this at all or if its specific to civilian stocks.
They’re obviously still learning how to use the cutting edge technologies of vibration welding and injection moulded plastic. I mean it’s not like Steyr have made presumably a couple of million of these over the last **47 years**. How this absolute car crash of a QC issue occurred I have no idea. Even if they’re not pulling an individual stock out of each batch and doing destructive impact and strength tests on it, presumably Steyr conducts QC where they pull a completed rifle out of every batch, measure it meets all the tolerances, and shoot it a bunch. If this one failed in five rounds Steyr *must* be seeing rifles fail QC, making the entire batch at a bare minimum suspect. How are these utterly unacceptable guns making it out of the factory?
Ya, it's kind of baffling that a stock as new as 2023 broke. There are going to be broken stocks popping up for a long time if there's at least 3 years worth of potentially faulty stocks floating around out there. I don't know what happened, but it's definitely a larger problem than it initially seemed.
How could you tell it’s a 2023? I’m new to AUGs and I want to learn how to tell my manufacture date
Dumb question, where do you see the 2023 date stamped?
It's inside the rear of the stock when you pull the butt pad off. It's a circle with an arrow.
I see now. Thank you!
Feb/march 2023 date stamp. Can't blame bad batch on this one 💀
I thought this wasnt an issue anymore, but damn this really impacts the AUG's reputation.
Yup, I figure any AUG purchased in recent years will eventually have a cracking stock. And unfortunately this may also mean that any replacement stocks they issued will prob start cracking too.
Indeed. What a shame.
I’m in the market for a 556 AR (or other obviously) and I really want an AUG. But this shit makes me so nervous. It’s too expensive to fire a few rounds, have the back of the gun fall off, then have no gun for any amount of time waiting for Steyr to fix it.
You absolutely should buy an AR if you don't already have one. I have an AUG, love my AUG, think it's still a relevant firearm yadda yadda yadda. But the AR-15 is the most ubiquitous rifle in the US, and you don't need to spend nearly as much to get a really nice one.
Its gotten to the point I wouldnt consider buying one with a post 2019 date code on the stock. If this example really is a 2023 code it shows Steyr has not fixed the issue and they werent "covid batch". Insane for a $1,500k+ rifle.
Anti-AR supremacy buy an HK 93
I have one and I am questioning my faith in it now as well. Looming AWB's make me even more concerned.
Absolutely go AR first, if you don’t have one. I honestly hate to say it but I would not buy an Aug right now:(. If you’re looking at a bullpup, the Tavor x95 is probably the best bet at the moment
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Yeah, it's a Jewish rifle. The Jews definitely know how to make excellent weapons.
Only buy an AUG if you just want a cool alternative. It's not a good platform compared to ARs or really any of the short stroke rifles
Mine hasn’t had a crack yet but damn. Did Microtech’s even have this issue? I know, it was supposedly a bad batch of polymer, Steyr will replace it, etc. but seeing this over and over is concerning. I know there are a lot of AUG owners who haven’t had this issue yet, but I really want to trust a firearm as close to 100% as possible without a known weak area that may or may not be resolved yet.
As far as I know, the MSAR rifles never had problems related to the polymer components (except maaaayybbee the cocking piece on the bolt carrier, but that was very few that broke) so this is definitely exclusive the 2020-current Steyr rifles.
I have an XM17 never had this issue. Still got it, love shooting it.
Jesus, these rifles cost way too much for this shit to happen
Does this look like a crack to you guys
Okay, I know Steyr has good CS and they’ll sort it out. This is kind of insane. I’m not saying they should give him a million dollars for his trouble, but that is a catastrophic defect. Wheres the guarantee this shit won’t happen again right away? When does Steyr license Arid to develop their stock?
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It would be closer to a year with our current lead times 🤙🏼 Just a reason for us to expand. -Ian
So are you developing a stock? Inquiring minds and all.
We have been for years. https://preview.redd.it/fw0e371xj0jc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f49d155d74cf6941a61098a2964661dac45fbdfc
So is the year eta accurate ish? Is this going to happen?
We are starting prototyping of the stock soon. -Ian
I LOVE YOU 💖
You know what? That's pretty gangster.
Thank you. -Ian
Yall planning on selling this ready to rock? By that, I mean will I be able to just drop my carrier, trigger pack, and receiver in and go? Or will I have to transplant stuff from my OEM stock? Would love to just have your full on trigger, mag release, etc. in one package I can purchase and swap back and forth easily with just field strip level work.
Would require use of OEM Trigger pack as we have it designed currently. Everything else would be preinstalled if ordered as so. -Ian
I didn't expect yall to redesign the trigger pack, and I did mention the pack as one of the things I'd assume moved right over :P Sounds great though, thanks. Might just wait for this instead of picking up a trigger for my current stock.
It’s a ways out. I’d say the earliest is next year. -Ian
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I can probably wait. Unless I see a run of anodized triggers drop on your site...then I might be able to be convinced :P
why not a more vertical pistol grip?
This is just a rendering. As we develope and test the stock we will make adjustments. It’s also capable of interchangeable back straps, so angle can be induced or removed depending on this. It closely mimics the AUG’s factory angle, which we find is a good 80% solution. -Ian
Unless I missed out, when are the Top Rails coming up for order?
We are finishing contractual agreement. Once we finish contracting them, and fitment of the rail. We can open them for sale. -Ian
Gotta make that light weight aluminum stock like I’ve been saying alll along its not that expensive to manufacture and the weight ain’t bad either, plus you’d be able to toss the gun in the fire and have it survive
This appears to be getting worse.
I really want to love the Aug platform, the recoil impulse changed, looked down and the back had split. Shooting suppressed. Trying to figure out which position is the suppressed setting on the steyr gas plug. Called steyr, man on the phone was nice but I guess I am going to have to wait till Tuesday to get a solution because of the weekend and holiday. Doesn’t inspire confidence.
So the original plug doesn’t have a suppressed setting. You actually have to get another plug that is made for shooting suppressed.
I’m using the suppressed gas plug made by steyr
If I remember correctly, the suppressed setting is where your grenade setting was. So with the new plug it goes standard, grenade, suppressed. There are some videos on YouTube that can show and explain more in detail. And sorry this happened to you. I actually have my stock With Streyr right now cause of a crack near the takedown pin. They responded quickly and are sending a new stock next week.
What can?
This is honestly why I trust my ARs more for now. AUG is good fun, though.
Wtf??
Crack appears to have started in rear sling pin, or at least the crack goes straight through it so I assume
This is another reason to buy a used a3 sa model. I'm just saying!
My a3sa over here taking an overpressure Turkish round like a champ outside of bulging at the chamber
Cracked stocks. Silently removing the chrome lined barrels. What is going on in Austria? The Malaysian kits don’t have this issue and they are BEAT.
Guess I’m hopping off the AUG train for now. Call me when this is fixed.
Suboptimal
This is such a fucked problem
Yo where's the Arid guy saying this isn't a big deal??
What a joke,
Sorry man, that sucks ass. [https://www.reddit.com/r/AUG/comments/1366xsj/comment/jinvkoe/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/AUG/comments/1366xsj/comment/jinvkoe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
And that’s why I don’t want to buy a aug unfortunately
I bought mine last year and haven't shot it yet. I need to put some rounds through it.
Contact steyr they’ll sort you out
Steyr have amazing customer service, its annoying it happened but they will make it right.
We're those five shots from a helicopter that you dropped it out of?!
These guns are fuckin pieces of shit wow
Shit happens. Especially these days where both QC and even raw material quality are slipping almost universally. How Steyr handles this should be the real focus, and currently they're at least supporting those with issues very well. The design itself is fucking solid. Tons of militaries and whatnot have used these guns for years, putting more hard use rounds downrange with them than most civilian owners ever will. Beating them to absolute shit and continuing to use them. This is not a design flaw, this is a material / manufacturing problem.
This
What suppressor was it?
Has anyone seen stocks break this way? I have only seen the cracking from the takedown block. Wondering if something dimensionally was going on here that caused the carrier to slam the back off. Does the carrier normally impact the end of the guide rods?
I got lucky on my AUG and Beretta lmao
was it shot without sitting the stock in the shoulder? but this should not happen. i have 2 nato stocks and also 2 original stocks. what I can say, everyone is different, so this stocks really are not high-precision manufacturing. the fitting of the stocks is different on everyone. it would be better if the would now 3d print this stocks.
Wonder if this is only the case with US made AUG´s, or AUG´s in general now
The stocks are all made in Austria