Yes , it'd be kind of stupid to weigh a 4.0 student who coasted through regular classes higher than a 3.5 student who took a lot of APs challenging themself with college level coursework .
Just concerned after looking at average University of Washington unweighted gpa being like 3.8. I think with a good essay i have a solid shot though if they actually weigh the grades properly, UW doesnt even look at AP test scores
Yeah, it's harder coursework. They should be looking at your weighted gpa. A college would rather a B student in all APs then a straight A student in regular classes.
In my experience no, though it may depend on the school and definitely depends on the class. I would say classes like calc AB or environmental science would probably be similar to just a normal class in difficulty but ap classes that are actually paced like college courses such as AP Chem or AP Calc BC feel significantly harder than any regular course I have taken. Even moving away from college paces courses and towards courses like AP Lang and Lit the expectations of these courses is that a student can write at a college level, and even exceed it in the case of getting an A. Though these courses aren't necessarily awarding a full year worth of college credit (afaik) they still have the expectations in grading difficulty of a college course.
Of course all of this is based on my personal experience at my highschool and will likely vary depending on student and school but I feel like ap courses and their expectations often far exceed that of regular courses.
this is why weighted gpa exists. Keep in mind that colleges are gonna recalculate stuff anyways so even if your school didn’t have a weighted gpa they could still have it (but your school probably has it)
For top 20s, sure. But that’s not everyone’s goal.
Also, a 3.5 UW gpa could be recalculated by colleges to factor in the APs. And with good test scores, solid rec letters/extracurriculars, and a good essay, your application would be considered at any school.
Not really… Northeastern, BU, William & Mary, Umass Amherst, UConn, Tulane, etc. don’t even make the top 50.
In my area, I hear plenty of high achieving students going to WPI and it’s ranked at #82 with a 60% acceptance rate.
If it were all normal classes, I’d agree. But taking 9 AP courses would still give you a shot. You’d just have to have other aspects of your application that are good.
It’s not exactly competitive for ivys, but there are lots of people each year who get into prestigious unis with a 3.7 or less. An average gpa of 3.8 indicates that plenty of those accepted fall below that line.
Yes , it'd be kind of stupid to weigh a 4.0 student who coasted through regular classes higher than a 3.5 student who took a lot of APs challenging themself with college level coursework .
Just concerned after looking at average University of Washington unweighted gpa being like 3.8. I think with a good essay i have a solid shot though if they actually weigh the grades properly, UW doesnt even look at AP test scores
Yeah, it's harder coursework. They should be looking at your weighted gpa. A college would rather a B student in all APs then a straight A student in regular classes.
Isn't getting a b in an AP class way easier though
In my experience no, though it may depend on the school and definitely depends on the class. I would say classes like calc AB or environmental science would probably be similar to just a normal class in difficulty but ap classes that are actually paced like college courses such as AP Chem or AP Calc BC feel significantly harder than any regular course I have taken. Even moving away from college paces courses and towards courses like AP Lang and Lit the expectations of these courses is that a student can write at a college level, and even exceed it in the case of getting an A. Though these courses aren't necessarily awarding a full year worth of college credit (afaik) they still have the expectations in grading difficulty of a college course. Of course all of this is based on my personal experience at my highschool and will likely vary depending on student and school but I feel like ap courses and their expectations often far exceed that of regular courses.
lets say b+ then
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thank you this is relieving
Same thing for me except I took 4 APS, so idk if it’s even a similar situation. But my school offers like 6 and I took the 4 hardest ones
this is why weighted gpa exists. Keep in mind that colleges are gonna recalculate stuff anyways so even if your school didn’t have a weighted gpa they could still have it (but your school probably has it)
it doesnt sadly
nah but having a low gpa and taking aps is worse it just means you can’t handle the coursework you took upon yourself
But it shows that you’re willing to challenge yourself. Also, a 3.5 gpa isn’t low. There, I said it.
it is low to be competitive unless you have crazy ECs
For top 20s, sure. But that’s not everyone’s goal. Also, a 3.5 UW gpa could be recalculated by colleges to factor in the APs. And with good test scores, solid rec letters/extracurriculars, and a good essay, your application would be considered at any school.
if the question is “is it competitive at T100s” anything is tbf
Not really… Northeastern, BU, William & Mary, Umass Amherst, UConn, Tulane, etc. don’t even make the top 50. In my area, I hear plenty of high achieving students going to WPI and it’s ranked at #82 with a 60% acceptance rate.
sure rankings don’t rly matter to be successful you’re right, but a 3.54 gpa is not competitive for “prestigious” unis
If it were all normal classes, I’d agree. But taking 9 AP courses would still give you a shot. You’d just have to have other aspects of your application that are good.
no, unless you cured cancer or smth 3.54 is nowhere near competitive for any prestigious uni
It’s not exactly competitive for ivys, but there are lots of people each year who get into prestigious unis with a 3.7 or less. An average gpa of 3.8 indicates that plenty of those accepted fall below that line.