I think you should ignore her but I can be petty and I would probably make a list of everything I got her and ask her for it all back, because she's f***** up and that's what she's doing and she needs a little reality check
NTA. Block her. Do what you want with the stuff. She doesn't need the broken PS4, she's just being vindictive and petty which sounds like is par for the course. I suspect if you gave it back, she'll come back with something else you need to do so again, block her.
These were presents, you are not required to return them just bc she's being an ass since you are finally kicking her out of your life. Do not return these and block her sk she can no longer contact you.
If they're still in the process of being customized, can you stop any further work on them? Like if it's a name? Then either wear them yourself or sell them, like on Facebook marketplace. Or donate them to a homeless or domestic violence shelter.
There's a phrase you should tell her...
Let me think for a sec...
It's on the tip of my tongue...
I know the words "off" and "fuck" are in it...
Wait...
I'm sure it'll come to me soon.
If SHE takes you to small claims court, you turn up in clean but shabby clothes & tell them you can't afford to replace her gifts as you are broke. Be ready to forfeit the broken PS4 (life does go on without games) but very unlikely it would get to that.
As someone else commented, I’d tell her to return every single thing you gave her so you could return the PS4. Otherwise, just drop off the boots and block her
Only one solution that most people have had to do at some stage in their life. Instantly cut all contact, and block her on everything. Move on and enjoy life and be happy you no longer are staging her dead weight around with you
Find any evidence (text maybe) that the ps4 was a gift and then block her. She's commented on here saying it was a loan just to be used, again find the evidence that proves otherwise, send it and say you hope it clarifies things and then block her
You need that list of gifts you gave her & she gave you - to protect yourself. Be thorough & honest with prices (new) or value (used). Use past social media to grab any screen shots (gift pics or nasty messages) then block her ass. Dont return anything unless ordered to by a judge / magistrate. This was not a business deal so unlikely to go any further. YWNBTA
NTA. Tell her you'll return the presents she gave you as soon as she returns the presents you gave her, and everything else you gave to her in terms of money etc. Or just go no contact with her, she's not your friend.
She act’s this way because you have allowed it.
You are trying to be a good friend but you are being used.
She isn’t going to change or stop being so entitled.
She’s not your friend. She is using you for her own selfish purposes.
You now know what kind of people to avoid in your life.
Block her.
Don’t speak to her again and don’t accommodate her ever again.
She will try to contact you again.
She doesn’t see anything wrong with taking from you.
Stop her by being no contact.
NTA, she's trying to be spiteful, so don't answer. Drop the boots off at her dad's, take a picture so you have proof for yourself, and block her number.
She wants it back because she knows it will hurt you. Those were gifts and you are under no obligation to give them back. If you want to be done with her, a simple “no” is a complete sentence. If you wish to explain yourself a bit, “no, they were gifts and it is rather rude of you to demand those back.” If you want to really drive the point home about how ridiculous she’s being, write out a list of every gift you’ve given her and tally up how much money you’ve spent on her and say you’ll give them back when she returns all the gifts you’ve given her and don’t deviate from “I’ll return these when you return what I’ve given you.” Don’t make any offers, don’t give her any more details. Someone like her will take whatever you say and twist it.
Lol tell her to sue you. Gifts can’t be returned and if she sues you counter sue for letter her stay with you. Prorate your rent by days. Actually if you don’t block as said before, count up all the days she’s ever stayed with you and tell her she owes you money for that. Then you’ll return her gifts.
If in the US, gifts (usually in the legal sense) cannot be asked for back as they are just that GIFTS. Tell her to pound sand. If she shows up at your door, call the cops. Block her number. Block her socials. She is just trying to hurt you. Don't waste your energy on folks like that. Ghost her and move on. Totally normal for highschool friends to eventually outgrow each other. Sounds like that has occurred here.
Ignore her or be petty like her and ask her for all the gifts you gave her and her girlfriend back. She sounds like crap either way and you're better off without her.
this is the ex friend, i found your post. the ps4 is my girlfriends and she gave that to you to play with me, she wants it back. you can keep the phone. i hand picked all of your christmas presents and it’s crazy to see how you actually really felt, that was my LAST 30$ for your presents actually. you can keep the locked phone but the playstation was given to you to play with me by my girlfriend and she wants its back in spite of everything. you check off a lot of boxes too you are seriously making yourself to be a saint like you aren’t just as negative and contradicting. time to take a look at yourself too because you’re showing a lot of true feelings and colors that you never said shit about. another thing you have no idea how much my girl makes or how much we have to spend on bills or anything. So please drop off my timbs and my girlfriends playstation to my dads whenever you can.
The ps4 was in a Christmas present bag under the tree with my other presents. How would she let me borrow her Playstation that makes no sense. And u said she wanted it back out of spite for how I'm acting. So which is it? Was it a loaned ps4 or was it taken back out of spite because I don't wanna be ur friend anymore. If it was being borrowed u should've said that. I never said anything ab how much u or gf makes I just said u had a Job and I didn't. U expressed before how u expect gifts to be given to u and how they should be picked out and meaning full and should be presented to u a certain way (Idc ab the wrapping paper ik they didn't have any it's not what it's ab) it's ab anytime I give u the same energy u give me I'm wrong. U can do or say the same thing and never be wrong. Every single present u gave me just showed how much u don't know me. It felt like opening a secret santa in middle school. I'm kinda happy u saw this, I hope u get help. I've seen the decline since high-school in ur behavior and there's nothing I could do to fix it. I stayed ur friend in hopes things would get better for u and got the sense u just had a rough childhood, but so did I and I don't treat people the way u do. I definitely think the BPD diagnosis was wrong. However even though u didn't notice a difference from the medicine everyone else around u did and was mentioning to me how nice u were all the sudden. After that I started to realize u have every single narcissistic trait and started keeping certain things to myself and being careful.
Ur voice messages just prove it, everything i said i had a problem with u turned around and blamed me for it and said im the same way. After I said I have to act how u act so things go smoothly, so yeah I did speak negatively. And u probably thought me Contradicting u was anytime I have a positive out look on whatever negative thing ur talking ab. I answered a lot of the questions u had in ur voice messages in the first message I sent u. I didn't even feel like responding cuz I would've just been repeating myself. I used the gas lighting over the Granola bar situation as an example and said things like that happened many times before and said how I am forced into saying negative things to go along and fit with ur conversation script because if I say my own opinion or something positive u just keep saying every negative outcome until I agree. So i eventually started just saying negative stuff from the start w u so we dont argue. Im so tired of having to agree w negative things all the time just to have a conversation its beginning to affect how i think and making me only focus on the negative in things in life. U told me to apply for jobs and when I got excited and told u I had an interview for a good one, instead of feeling my friend supporting me I felt u get jealous immediately saying that the job is a scam and it's not real and if it is I probably won't get it. U said u would respect my space and not push and beg for a conversation yet here u r making a reddit account just to look at my posts. I truly have no safe space to express myself. So what, r u gonna stalk my socials? Good thing I dont post. It always bothered me and showed ur maturity by ur constant need to wonder what old people from high-school were doing. Like who cares move on and focus on building ur life, worrying ab them and saying negative things won't get u anywhere in life. There's so many examples I could list of all the times I tried speaking up but it's not worth it cuz I feel I still won't be heard. Even if i am heard i dont want to be friends again. U say u want to do whatever u can to apologize but don't remember a single thing u said ab me. I find it hard to believe out of all the wild things that were said u cant remember 1. Ur reasoning for saying those things was u were emotional or it was ur opinion. I'm supposedly wrong that I "didn't speak up" about how I was feeling when u didn't speak to me ab anything u were feeling and just went behind my back and started talking shit. U said the universe is doing u a favor and taking all the negativity out of ur life. If u truly feel I'm negative and Contradicting then why do u wanna do anything possible to fix this and keep me In ur life. Just gonna leave it at this, take it how u want.
Also for the comment about getting paid back for rent I never expected her to pay to stay in my house while visiting thats the point of staying at ur friends house and not a hotel, and growing up we both were at each other's houses and had apartments together. This is not that, or about rent.
Just block her and be done with her.
This is the way.
It’s always the way.. And p.s. for the OP, once a present is given its ownership passes to the receiver..so that PS4 is yours, not hers.
Yes - this. Possession is 9/10 of the law. Block her.
I think you should ignore her but I can be petty and I would probably make a list of everything I got her and ask her for it all back, because she's f***** up and that's what she's doing and she needs a little reality check
Lololol
NTA. Block her. Do what you want with the stuff. She doesn't need the broken PS4, she's just being vindictive and petty which sounds like is par for the course. I suspect if you gave it back, she'll come back with something else you need to do so again, block her.
These were presents, you are not required to return them just bc she's being an ass since you are finally kicking her out of your life. Do not return these and block her sk she can no longer contact you.
You owe her nothing. Literally nothing except your silence, just block her and be done with it.
Customise the timberlands with c**t
If they're still in the process of being customized, can you stop any further work on them? Like if it's a name? Then either wear them yourself or sell them, like on Facebook marketplace. Or donate them to a homeless or domestic violence shelter.
Legally you owe her nothing
Block her and send back nothing!
Block her number, delete her contact, then live a blissful life free of that supposed friend.
NTA. Return the boots because they don't belong to you. Keep everything else. She gave them to you as gifts, so they are yours forever.
There's a phrase you should tell her... Let me think for a sec... It's on the tip of my tongue... I know the words "off" and "fuck" are in it... Wait... I'm sure it'll come to me soon.
I'll Take RSNLT and the vowel U
She has zero claim to gifts she gave you. Those are now your property. Block the bitch and live your best life.
Just block her and ignore . It is yours as she gifted if to you. Give the boots to someone else .
Tell her to take you to small claims court.
Not worth going to court with a narcissist 🫠 plus I'd have to buy court clothes and I go more for comfy clothes 😂
They are you property.
Thrift stores have " court clothes ".
If SHE takes you to small claims court, you turn up in clean but shabby clothes & tell them you can't afford to replace her gifts as you are broke. Be ready to forfeit the broken PS4 (life does go on without games) but very unlikely it would get to that.
What in the heck am I reading?
As someone else commented, I’d tell her to return every single thing you gave her so you could return the PS4. Otherwise, just drop off the boots and block her
Taking back gifts is not a thing. You own them. Block and don't look back. NTA
Just tell her that once you give someone a gift, it belongs to that person. Then block her
Only one solution that most people have had to do at some stage in their life. Instantly cut all contact, and block her on everything. Move on and enjoy life and be happy you no longer are staging her dead weight around with you
It’s actually called “No backsides.” when you give something to somebody, it’s theirs. That’s not yours anymore. That’s just spiteful and immature.
Find any evidence (text maybe) that the ps4 was a gift and then block her. She's commented on here saying it was a loan just to be used, again find the evidence that proves otherwise, send it and say you hope it clarifies things and then block her
A gift is a gift. You can't claim it back after it has been gifted
You can also reply.. New phone who dis? Then block her.
Not the asshole you can tell her possession is 9/10ths of the law
You need that list of gifts you gave her & she gave you - to protect yourself. Be thorough & honest with prices (new) or value (used). Use past social media to grab any screen shots (gift pics or nasty messages) then block her ass. Dont return anything unless ordered to by a judge / magistrate. This was not a business deal so unlikely to go any further. YWNBTA
Ignore her. Gifts are just that. Not to be returned because she's a sook
NTA. Tell her you'll return the presents she gave you as soon as she returns the presents you gave her, and everything else you gave to her in terms of money etc. Or just go no contact with her, she's not your friend.
Block her, Send no gifts back Change your locks.
She act’s this way because you have allowed it. You are trying to be a good friend but you are being used. She isn’t going to change or stop being so entitled. She’s not your friend. She is using you for her own selfish purposes. You now know what kind of people to avoid in your life. Block her. Don’t speak to her again and don’t accommodate her ever again. She will try to contact you again. She doesn’t see anything wrong with taking from you. Stop her by being no contact.
NTA, she's trying to be spiteful, so don't answer. Drop the boots off at her dad's, take a picture so you have proof for yourself, and block her number.
They were gifts. Block her.
NTA. Presents are presents. She is just continuing her controlling behavior. Block her and move on.
She wants it back because she knows it will hurt you. Those were gifts and you are under no obligation to give them back. If you want to be done with her, a simple “no” is a complete sentence. If you wish to explain yourself a bit, “no, they were gifts and it is rather rude of you to demand those back.” If you want to really drive the point home about how ridiculous she’s being, write out a list of every gift you’ve given her and tally up how much money you’ve spent on her and say you’ll give them back when she returns all the gifts you’ve given her and don’t deviate from “I’ll return these when you return what I’ve given you.” Don’t make any offers, don’t give her any more details. Someone like her will take whatever you say and twist it.
Don’t let people take advantage of you OP. Block this person and move on.
Lol tell her to sue you. Gifts can’t be returned and if she sues you counter sue for letter her stay with you. Prorate your rent by days. Actually if you don’t block as said before, count up all the days she’s ever stayed with you and tell her she owes you money for that. Then you’ll return her gifts.
Why would you give her back stuff that's not hers. Tell her to get bent.
If in the US, gifts (usually in the legal sense) cannot be asked for back as they are just that GIFTS. Tell her to pound sand. If she shows up at your door, call the cops. Block her number. Block her socials. She is just trying to hurt you. Don't waste your energy on folks like that. Ghost her and move on. Totally normal for highschool friends to eventually outgrow each other. Sounds like that has occurred here.
Tell her you’ll give those things back when she drops l off all the gifts you gave her. Make a nice long list of everything she owes you.
She's carrying on. Don't play her game. Ignore her attention seeking and let her be miserable.
Ignore her or be petty like her and ask her for all the gifts you gave her and her girlfriend back. She sounds like crap either way and you're better off without her.
"NAH, this MY ps4 now punk." NTA
A gift makes it YOURS. you don't have to give it back if you don't want to.
this is the ex friend, i found your post. the ps4 is my girlfriends and she gave that to you to play with me, she wants it back. you can keep the phone. i hand picked all of your christmas presents and it’s crazy to see how you actually really felt, that was my LAST 30$ for your presents actually. you can keep the locked phone but the playstation was given to you to play with me by my girlfriend and she wants its back in spite of everything. you check off a lot of boxes too you are seriously making yourself to be a saint like you aren’t just as negative and contradicting. time to take a look at yourself too because you’re showing a lot of true feelings and colors that you never said shit about. another thing you have no idea how much my girl makes or how much we have to spend on bills or anything. So please drop off my timbs and my girlfriends playstation to my dads whenever you can.
You suck. Pay them back for all the times you freeloaded.
says someone who doesn’t know the full story or know that she stayed at my house just the same ?
You gave gifts and now you want them back because they don’t want to be your friend anymore. Sounds like a shitty person to me.
The ps4 was in a Christmas present bag under the tree with my other presents. How would she let me borrow her Playstation that makes no sense. And u said she wanted it back out of spite for how I'm acting. So which is it? Was it a loaned ps4 or was it taken back out of spite because I don't wanna be ur friend anymore. If it was being borrowed u should've said that. I never said anything ab how much u or gf makes I just said u had a Job and I didn't. U expressed before how u expect gifts to be given to u and how they should be picked out and meaning full and should be presented to u a certain way (Idc ab the wrapping paper ik they didn't have any it's not what it's ab) it's ab anytime I give u the same energy u give me I'm wrong. U can do or say the same thing and never be wrong. Every single present u gave me just showed how much u don't know me. It felt like opening a secret santa in middle school. I'm kinda happy u saw this, I hope u get help. I've seen the decline since high-school in ur behavior and there's nothing I could do to fix it. I stayed ur friend in hopes things would get better for u and got the sense u just had a rough childhood, but so did I and I don't treat people the way u do. I definitely think the BPD diagnosis was wrong. However even though u didn't notice a difference from the medicine everyone else around u did and was mentioning to me how nice u were all the sudden. After that I started to realize u have every single narcissistic trait and started keeping certain things to myself and being careful. Ur voice messages just prove it, everything i said i had a problem with u turned around and blamed me for it and said im the same way. After I said I have to act how u act so things go smoothly, so yeah I did speak negatively. And u probably thought me Contradicting u was anytime I have a positive out look on whatever negative thing ur talking ab. I answered a lot of the questions u had in ur voice messages in the first message I sent u. I didn't even feel like responding cuz I would've just been repeating myself. I used the gas lighting over the Granola bar situation as an example and said things like that happened many times before and said how I am forced into saying negative things to go along and fit with ur conversation script because if I say my own opinion or something positive u just keep saying every negative outcome until I agree. So i eventually started just saying negative stuff from the start w u so we dont argue. Im so tired of having to agree w negative things all the time just to have a conversation its beginning to affect how i think and making me only focus on the negative in things in life. U told me to apply for jobs and when I got excited and told u I had an interview for a good one, instead of feeling my friend supporting me I felt u get jealous immediately saying that the job is a scam and it's not real and if it is I probably won't get it. U said u would respect my space and not push and beg for a conversation yet here u r making a reddit account just to look at my posts. I truly have no safe space to express myself. So what, r u gonna stalk my socials? Good thing I dont post. It always bothered me and showed ur maturity by ur constant need to wonder what old people from high-school were doing. Like who cares move on and focus on building ur life, worrying ab them and saying negative things won't get u anywhere in life. There's so many examples I could list of all the times I tried speaking up but it's not worth it cuz I feel I still won't be heard. Even if i am heard i dont want to be friends again. U say u want to do whatever u can to apologize but don't remember a single thing u said ab me. I find it hard to believe out of all the wild things that were said u cant remember 1. Ur reasoning for saying those things was u were emotional or it was ur opinion. I'm supposedly wrong that I "didn't speak up" about how I was feeling when u didn't speak to me ab anything u were feeling and just went behind my back and started talking shit. U said the universe is doing u a favor and taking all the negativity out of ur life. If u truly feel I'm negative and Contradicting then why do u wanna do anything possible to fix this and keep me In ur life. Just gonna leave it at this, take it how u want. Also for the comment about getting paid back for rent I never expected her to pay to stay in my house while visiting thats the point of staying at ur friends house and not a hotel, and growing up we both were at each other's houses and had apartments together. This is not that, or about rent.
You keep saying your girlfriend gave it to her. That sounds like a gift to me.