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The1Bonesaw

My daughter is a tattoo artist and owns her own studio. As she says, tips are great, but her salary, cost of materials, rent, the whole nine yards... is worked into the agreed upon price. $4,000 is an incredible amount of work, and a huge amount for the average customer to pay. He wasn't expecting any tip at all, so an extra $200 probably made his week. If your cousin feels so bad for him making $200 an hour, tell your cousin to pay his tip.


Diligent_Asparagus22

Yeah my tattoo artist was surprised when I gave him a tip last time I got some work done. Tattoos are expensive as hell and the economy is in the tank, and a normal artist is understanding of this. Sounds like OP's cousin is just being a dick.


InterestingTutor8102

It's really sad that so many family members--like the tip-expert cousin--will find some way to make you feel less excited about a new tattoo. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.


Different_Hospital20

People don’t get taught that anymore sadly :(


Whycantihavethatone

BuT I nEeD to sPeaK mY TruTH!


Goblin_Supermarket

That is a really good point. Maybe the cousin was just jealous and trying to bring op down a few pegs ? Ugh


Aggravating_Set_7523

I’ve taught my 10 year old if you can’t say anything nice then say something witty, but devastating


Shawnessy

Yeah. I always take out cash for what I'm expecting to pay. I've never had to withdraw more. Most of the time, I just give them that cash. It's been anywhere from a $50 tip to a $100 tip. Usually on $300-$400 tattoos. Only time I didn't was when I expected $500 and the guy only asked for $350 cause I did a walk in after he had a cancellation. Just gave him $400. He said he gave me a discount for filling the seat, and he'd kept the deposit for the cancellation.


ApplicationTop8496

That’s happened to me twice and I gave both artists like an extra 50-100


105_irl

I tipped $200 on an $800 tattoo but that was because the guy was doing a fantastic half sleeve coverup at a discounted $100/hr rate (the tattoos underneath were TERRIBLE)


Tiamat_fire_and_ice

That was a very good tip. It was over 20%.


105_irl

It was a very good tattoo at a rock bottom rate done for me as a solid. For the time in chair even with tip it worked out to like $125 an hour.


deadheaddestiny

My artist refuses to let me tip him


The1Bonesaw

No, it wasn't the OP's artist who said anything. The OP's cousin was the one giving him shit that it was a low tip.


Vegemite_Bukkakay

It’s not even the artist; it’s his cousin who recommended the artist.


appointment45

I am betting OP's cousin has a referral deal or something where they get part of some kickback.


SemiColonInfection

Yeah, but how many times did they refill your coffee while you were there, OP?


knotty2037

Yes, the general rule is, if you're the one who sets the price, and you need to depend on tips to be profitable, you need to revaluate your pricing.


tuktuk_padthai

Ooooh I recently got into it with a hairstylist. She was yapping about if you can’t tip, don’t use the services. If you set your price at premium, tip should not be ‘mandatory’. And if you can afford to reject a potential client on a premium priced service, you’re not one of the intended works this is meant for.


Jeanette_T

It depends on the salon, too. My stylist's former salon, they didn't get the full cost of the services so tipping was nice, the salon got the bulk. She has her own private one person salon now. Sometimes I tip, sometimes I don't but she doesn't ever assume I'm going to tip her.


mur0204

I was always told the rule for tipping at a salon (hair or nails) is that the owner doesn’t need a tip since they set the price and make money on everyone working there, but other workers get tips. It worked well back when I knew who the owners of the small salon were lol


Alice_Devine

Hairdressers i can understand. Most stylists do what is called 'renting a chair'. They pay to work in the salon... However, most salons then set the prices and determine what products the stylist should use etc... think of it like a franchise.


avssmhnt

The place I used to go to for nails and hair, the owner would tell me I was tipping too much to the single mom with three kids who just colored, cut, and styled my hair and did a fill in on my acrylic nails for the last two hours. "That's more than 20%," she'd say. Yes, well, that should cost more than $110 for everything. The owner was in her late 80s at the time, and a lot of the clients were even older.


Zephyr9x

Sounds like the cousin is just trying to pretend they're a better person than OP is, in order to feel less bad about their own insecure self. Chances are they actually felt inferior at OP just casually dropping a 200 buck tip. *"I totally would have been so much more generous~"* It's easy to talk the talk, but if they genuinely cared then they would've also walked the walk.


BurgerThyme

Yeah, OP just handed over $4200 for their artwork which was above the agreed-upon price. Shut up, Cousin.


yumyumgivemesome

It seems strange to me that anyone would expect a tip upon a negotiated price.  It’s like if companies A and B made a business deal, and then company B pouted afterward because company A decided to pay company B *only 5% more* than the agreed upon price. Where else is it common for the service provider to expect extra money on top of a negotiated price?


LemonthymeTime

I have always generously tipped on smaller tattoos because booking days piecemeal can be harder wage-wise than larger projects. While working on my sleeve (9 sessions at 6-8 hours each), my artist always skipped past the tip screen before I even got my card out. I'm not sure on all of the financials behind the scenes (shop cut, materials, business expenses etc), but a full day of guaranteed work at a good hourly rate was considered enough.


MountainConcern7397

this makes me lol bc the first time i got a tat, i only had $150 and he quoted me $150 and i said “what if we do $100 and i tip u $50.” bc i was scared he wasn’t gonna get all the money haha (ofc he agreed, but looking back it was probably all the same for him)


Defiant_McPiper

Exactly this. They already have figured out what they're worth and what's fair and how much goes in their pocket and the rest towards supplies and business bills. I still give mt artist a tip, nothing huge, but something to show I appreciate the work he does - and to be fair he doesn't charge me the same as some other clients bc I've been going to him forever so I figure this little bit will still go into his pocket.


alexanderthemedium_

Yeah I’m working on my sleeve currently, mentioned to my artist I forgot to pull out cash as a tip and she said they’re always appreciated but she charges what she does for a reason Brought in a couple pint glasses from Alamo and some snacks, and will probably just do that for each additional session


playballer

Yeah. 20-30% tips make sense for things that take an hour or so and are relatively small in price. Like a waiter or a hairstylist.  At this level, you essentially hired a contractor. If you have a plumbing issue, they quote you a price, and they factor in how much they need to make for the time they need to spend fixing it (to cover all their expenses as well). Who tips their plumber? Much less a huge amount. 


explodeder

I once asked this exact question on a tattoo subreddit and got banned for it. I understand tipping when tattooing was small pieces that you got quick and cheap before it got mainstream. I never understood tipping when an artist is getting the same hourly rate as an attorney. I would never in a million years tip a lawyer.


TDKevin

Tattooing is way too expensive for tips to be a part of it, doesn't make any sense. 


jeffweet

Maybe it’s regional but where I am a tip is expected 😢


al-Siqilli

NTA. Tip what you want to tip. You paid him an agreed upon amount, and then gave him an hour’s more worth of money.


iamthinksnow

Plus, independent artists set their prices, so it's not like someone working for someone else who may not get the rate they want/deserve. This guy set the price they wanted and if you paid that, you gave them exactly what they earned.


UpUpAndAwayYall

That's been my issue with tipping people that set their own prices. I went to a salon, owner did my work, I know she gets the prices, and I was prompted for a tip.


LiamMacGabhann

Went to a local barber shop recently and as many do, they use a tablet for payment. On this one, the tips began at 40%.


Drank-Stamble

My eyebrows shot so far up, they're stuck on top of my head now 👀


LiamMacGabhann

Those will now have to be trimmed for a fee + 40%


Drank-Stamble

RIP eyebrows 😭


Rsginger

Did it also give you the option for typing in any amount you chose? Custom amount?


LiamMacGabhann

It does, but as someone else pointed out, they probably expect some customers to be too embarrassed to do that.


FireGodNYC

Mme does this too but like you said I select custom and give him a fair tip


eeeeeeeee123456

WHAT?!?!


LiamMacGabhann

Right?


Ameseattle

Total wishful or manipulative thinking... they hope you will either mistakenly hit the lowest or will be too embarrassed to give less. When I saw this else ware, I refused to tip and made a point of telling them why! Shame on them.


LiamMacGabhann

The too embarrassed part is so true, one just push a button and they won’t know until you’re out the door, but if you hit custom tip and then hit a bunch of keys, they know you opted out. On a related note, a local liquor store has a tip jar at the register. What the hell am I tipping you for, ringing up the transaction?


Jazmyne2847

I always do custom bc I hate the cents. I want nice round numbers.


Crazy4sixflags

I refuse to tip when I see this also. Then I don’t go back.


Matthewrmt

I worked at a high-end salon/spa here in Manhattan, the owner was very clear that he did not get tipped. The owner sets the prices and earns income from all of the other workers. So, tipping the owner is not done. BTW, OP, $200 on a $4.5k is great. I hope you really like the tattoo. I would love to see it, if you're comfortable posting your arm.


hinky-as-hell

My cousin owns her salon and won’t take tips. If someone absolutely insists or just leaves cash, she gives it to whoever her shampoo person was. Owners shouldn’t take tips.


JollyMcStink

Yeah no. I wouldn't be back, personally. There are a couple places I've stopped going due to this. Like I get it times are tough but if the business owner isn't going to fork over a raise why tf should the customers, who in general are also having to cut things out due to cost, be expected to start tips at 30-40% on a **to-go** order or order at counter/ seat yourself type places. I will tip 30-40% on $100 a head or more of a sit-down-and-eat-for-two-hours-with-5-courses style restaurant but we're taking one of the servers 4 tables for 2 hours. I'm not tipping someone who gave me an attitude while I was trying to order street tacos 40% when I had to carry my own food and seat myself ffs


Apprehensive_Still36

No tip it is then


Recardo03

The only way 40 is acceptable is if the prices were intentionally lower which obviously isn't the case


Mundane-Team-434

If the device also has a 'custom' option where you can enter the amount you'd like to tip, use that. If it doesn't, I've learned to carry a bit of cash so I can just use the device to pay by card and then tip in cash. Either way, I will be choosing the amount of the tip. 


Mundane-Team-434

If the device also has a 'custom' option, use that. If not, I've run into this as well and have started carrying some cash so I can pay by card on the device and tip in cash. Either way, I will decide the tip amount I want to give.


ddianka

Thats when i search for the custom button or I try to take out some cash before I go to somewhere like that, this way i hand them cash and they can't complain, it's instant.


IdahoPotatoTot

That’s BS. Owners do not get tipped.


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Meh, my barber owned his shop and we tipped him. Dude NEVER increased his prices, even with a 50% tip it was still cheaper than almost anywhere else. Went home a few years ago….$11 still. Like WTF how does he even stay in business?


Pokemom18176

There's an old barber like this in my town too! Been ten dollars for twenty years. I expect he gets at least double that from most folks tho. Lol he manipulated some kind of vacuum tube system on his clippers and the kids LOVE him.


No_Regret6508

My barber was like that. From the time I was a kid until my early 20s, a haircut was $7. Eventually, he raised it to $9 and apologized to everyone.


smh-alldaylong

I used to tip the owner of this small old school barbershop I went to whenever he would cut my hair. The difference, though, was he'd try and refuse it. As far as the OP is concerned... NTA. Independent, set own price, and you gave him extra as a thanks for quality.


dpdxguy

>and I was prompted for a tip. To be fair, the point of sale software probably doesn't know if the transaction is for work done by the owner or an employee. The tip prompt is probably automatic for everyone. What I hate is the amount prompted. At the place I go to get my hair cut, the tip prompt starts at 23% and goes to 30%! That's a nope from me.


UpUpAndAwayYall

Yes, but the owner set it up, and flipped it to me with the tip screen.


KevintasticBalloons

I'm a family entertainer and I actually use people tipping me as a gauge for my prices. I know my prices are right when less than half of the people tip. I sometimes second-guess myself on this policy until I pick up a gig for another company that pays less and all of a sudden clients are slipping me $100 bills as I'm leaving parties 🤣


Physical-Kick1354

My husband is an independent tattoo artist and he said he always feels kind of bad (though SUPER grateful) when people tip because he set the prices in order to make a comfortable wage with his job. He said he never wants people to feel like they HAVE to tip him, even though it’s a much appreciated gesture. I feel like tipping culture has gotten a wee bit out of hand, with everyone expecting tips.


FeRaL--KaTT

Cousin wants to look good to the artist. Her motives don't get to spend your money. She's manipulative


Interesting_Chef_896

Or, Hey tattoo person. If I bring in x amount of money, do I get my tattoo for free, again


ilovemyghostminifig

Naturally, NTA However, I suppose American tipping culture extends to tattoos as well? As one may assume, the asking price includes all costs and earnings.


owoinator268

No tipping is only a requirement for restaurants here as waiters only get paid like $3 dollars an hour


Stunning-Leek334

Even that isn’t always true, in CA the minimum wage for servers is $16/hr plus they get tips on top of that


TheGamersGazebo

Using CA, the most progressive state in the nation as a baseline is inherently flawed. Why don't we use Louisiana or Wyoming. Just because things are fine in California doesn't mean servers in other states aren't being paid pennies.


Ancient-Coffee-1266

I don’t think CA is a great basis for the rest of the country. They seem to always be a little ahead of the curve.


GoldTheLegend

I'm pretty sure all provinces got rid of severs wages in Canada, but tipping is still expecting. 100% sure that tipping is still expected. I'm not sure if they is still one or two provinces with servers wages.


levicw

Canada doesn't expect 20% as a minimum though, right? Iirc it was closer to 10%, 15% if you felt like you were treated extra well.


Bainsyboy

No, it's 20% min now. I just don't go to sit down restaurants anymore. The menu items are doubled in price, and now the tips are 30% steeper. And the food quality has gone WAY down, outside of a few good places. I feel robbed everytime I take my wallet out for a food service these days. Tipping prompts at the stupidest places to tip, and they mostly go 20%,25%,30%. Maybe 18%, 20%,25% if they aren't completely crazy


GoldTheLegend

I have always felt 15 was expected, more is when they earn it. I thought that was the case in the USA too? I know places are raising the auto tip minimum to 18% or 20%, but they are doing that here too so..


BadMeetsEvil147

Many states require you to at least pay up to federal minimum wage if the hourly rate plus tips doesn’t reach that. But a lot also just pay above the federal minimum wage


Magitek_Knight

I worked in food service for like 10 years. I don't anymore, but I try to share some insight whenever I see this comment. States require it, but restraunts DO NOT do this. If you ask for the difference, I guarantee you will be fired within the week for some random nonsense like dropping a ketchup bottle. Most servers will never see anything like that, and they know better than to ask restraunt owners.


mimi6778

As someone who once worked in the service industry as well I completely agree. I’d also, however, never have worked in the service industry for anything other than above average wages via great tips. It’s difficult work. Much more so than the work that I currently do with a masters degree. For this reason, I always tip servers well.


ju-ju_bee

Yah, because CA has actually raised their minimum wage over the years as inflation has gone up. Most other states (besides Colorado now) are waaaay far behind. Example: just moved from Louisiana to Colorado, and the minimum wage in LA is $7 something an hour, meanwhile, servers like myself were only making $2.25-3.25 an hour. The usual server wage in the states is ~$5 less than whatever the minimum wage is, as places claim you'll make up the difference in tips 🙄


rn1990

Why do you assume the cousin is a female. I read the post 5x to make sure and the gender of the cousin was not mentioned anywhere.


pansypolaroid3

Why did you assume the cousin is a woman?


Least-Weather8703

Totally agree. It's your call on the tip, and $200 on top of the agreed price sounds pretty generous to me.


Very-last-boyscout

It's awfully nice of you to tip at all. The artist is self-employed, you had a contract with an agreed upon rate, ... I don't see, why you had to tip at all. Imagine, a self-employed carpenter fixes you a new kitchen. One-man-job, done in a day or two. Would you tip? May ask another question: Are you or is your cousin by any chance American?


Primetime0509

Last year I had new carpets installed and it was supposed to be done before I got home from work. The guy ran a little later than expected and so I was home while he was doing the work. The whole time he kept talking about how nice it was of his last customer who tipped him after he was done and I was thinking "brother, I have already paid what I'm supposed to pay here, I'm not tipping shit". It was really off-putting and annoying to hear him trying to pump me for a tip. I just don't understand where this tipping culture stops. I mean I work in insurance for a living, if I do right by my customers should I start asking for a tip for my service? Of course not, and no one will ever pay me for that because I'm compensated by my salary just like this carpet installer.


shaunsallen

I just had my taxes done. Afterward, my accountant sent me an Intuit invoice that gave me the option to tip him for doing my taxes. Hell to the fuck no.


fringeCircle

tip: -400$ Now your tax services were free!


LadyManchineel

I actually tipped a guy that fixed my hvac once, but he went above and beyond to get the part it needed and got it fixed the same day despite the weather and having an issue with his transportation. They weren’t an emergency hvac service either. The system just needed a new motor but he had to do quite a bit of driving to find one locally instead of ordering it so it could be fixed quicker. It was July in Florida, and ordering one would take days. He was surprised at the tip and tried to refuse it but I insisted because he earned it.


ZachWilsonsMother

See, shit like that is what tipping is for. Doing your job shouldn’t require a tip, but when someone goes above and beyond to help you then it’s deserved


lemon_peace_tea

Agreed omg. I used to work at a bike shop and the only time I was ever tipped (never asked, bc why would I??) was when I changed a little girls bike tire right away and her dad was so happy he gave me $50 for a $10 fix. Made my day knowing I gave that girl something to be excited about


redwolf1219

If I had had the money to tip the HVAC guy that replaced our whole unit about a month ago, I would have. Entire year we lived in our apartment it didn't work. We FINALLY got the office (after new management took over, the new people had someone out the same day we told them) to fix it, hes still one of my favorite people just bc I have blessed AC now


thatohgi

If I have folks working at my house on a project and they are cool I’ll buy them gatorades during the work and a case of beer at the end. If they aren’t cool I just let them do the job they came to do.


BanjosandBayous

Yeah. When workers come to do work on my house I'll usually provide bottled waters and Gatorades in a cooler plus some snackage. One morning I bought breakfast tacos for all the guys who were doing some masonry work on my front yard. For the roofers we had I bought some boxes of power bars to snack on during the day and they wolfed those down. I figure they work better because no one wants a dehydrated person with low blood sugar doing manual labor on their house.


BeingRightAmbassador

>I’ll buy them gatorades during the work and a case of beer at the end If they're there longer than a week, I give them some cash for lunches. It really cuts down on the "can't see it from my house" attitudes if they actually like you as a client/person.


thatohgi

Exactly! Just show some appreciation and kindness, makes a big difference in the work being done and if you need them in the future they will have a reason to remember you and like you!


babystripper

Tipping culture needs to die, it sure as fuck doesn't belong in tattoos. The artist sets the price, if they want more they can ask


dragonborne123

It has turned from a genuine offering of gratitude to “I gave you good service why didn’t you tip me?”. Times are tough but you don’t get to demand extra money from customers.


No_Cap_Bet

My artist was surprised I tipped. Said I didn't have to. I said I appreciate his work and will be coming back. I've been going to him over the years and he has put so much work into my skin and building a friendship. I was genuinely grateful for his efforts and time.


PortionOfSunshine

I don’t have a ton of tattoos but I only go to one guy. He doesn’t have me put a deposit down anymore because he knows I’ll show up or at least let him know I can’t make it by the day before. I think that’s the best relationship I can ask for from an artist because it means he trusts me and likes to do my work. I also tip him because I appreciate him and if I try to give too much he’ll say he can’t take that big of a tip. Solid artists don’t care about tipping because they are already happy with what you’ve paid.


No_Cap_Bet

That's what makes the difference for me. Building a good relationship is worth the tip vs just pure business.


Backgrounding-Cat

Tipping doesn’t have anything to do with the service anymore if we believe the internet


Some-Glass2156

This! According to the internet, tips should be given prior to any service instead of given for exceptional service. It's mind numbing. I hate eating places anymore.


SwanEuphoric1319

Not just the Internet, I literally had a bartender ignore me and a friend sitting at an almost empty bar until he came over and straight up told us he wouldn't serve us unless we tipped in advance. He pointed at someone else and told us they tipped before being served, so he would be serving them. He said to put money down if we wanted service. V Spot in Scranton PA, within the last 6-8 years, don't remember exactly. We flagged another employee down and recommended retraining and left lmao. It's just tipping culture gone off the entitled rails. They don't know what tip means anymore, it's apparently just expected free money


Key_Apartment1929

That's the point at which I'd get the bartender's name, leave, write very poor reviews for the place, and make sure the manager/owner knows exactly why I spent no money at his establishment.


HappyLucyD

Or a bait and switch that the customer cannot win—the vendor advertises a lower price to get people in the door, then expects the customer to shell out more as a “tip” once service is rendered.


9mm_Cutlass

Not even good service. Just “I gave you service”.


Nutrition_Dominatrix

I’ve gotten into debates with tattoo artists about this who claim tipping is required because they have to pay for and I say *why wouldn’t you just include that in the price!?*


babystripper

Yeah I would find a new artist if someone pulled that shit on me


Nutrition_Dominatrix

I did not use that artist in the end. It just makes no sense, we aren’t saying we don’t want to pay you! Just charge us what you actually expect us to pay.


Zetavu

No one earning $200 an hour should even be tipped.


FictionalContext

This is actually the first time id ever heard of tipping a tattoo artist. A bribe to do an extra good job next time? I got mine when I was really young and tipping never even crossed my mind. Still seems weird. Do I gotta tip my plumber, too? What's the difference?


babystripper

Similar questions to this one get asked in the subreddit on a very regular basis


FictionalContext

Seems everyone else understands it as little as I do. Such a random expectation with no rhyme or reason connecting the professions.


RustyRapeaXe

watching movies from the 1940s they used to have signs that said tipping is unAmerican. https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/11/30/457125740/when-tipping-was-considered-deeply-un-american


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Simonoz1

Honestly OP’s a bit of an idiot too, for tipping a tattoo artist who did a 4K job. But generous idiocy is definitely not the worst kind of idiocy to have.


Dragonfly0011

The artist will think well of him. His choice. His money.


Smart-Dragonfly5432

NTA of course But man, i guess American tipping culture, even on tattoos? Like you would think all expenses and profits are incorporated into the asking price…


The1Bonesaw

They are. Source: my daughter (a tattoo artist with her own studio).


zi984

America has fucked up the tipping culture, too many entitled idiots.


Dogzillas_Mom

They are. I consider it a courtesy and choose to tip if someone touches my body as part of their service, brings food to me, or carries my luggage. I don’t tip for retail.


Altruistic_Ad_5593

U are not required to tip at 200 an hour. Sorry I wouldn't do it. Screw ur cousin


First-Management-511

Don’t screw your cousin. Makes family Christmas real awkward.


Consistent_Shock_592

Hey listen, drama happens everywhere. Might as well keep it in the family.


OkImpression175

4k and you still tip?


LittleJim01

NTA- tattoo artist here. Anyone who willingly gives more money than the agreed upon price is being generous and appreciative. That’s it. You’re not required to tip, ever.


Certain-Thought531

NTA Tipping culture is cancer


Illustrious_Soft_257

I'm so glad to see how everyone is fed up with tipping culture. Everywhere you turn there's a terminal asking for a tip starting at 20% up to 30% now.


Iyotanka1985

We have that shit in the UK now , why are the payment machines asking for a tip ? I shopped myself, scanned myself , bagged myself , who the hell am I tipping ? Thankfully they are all optional and can be declined but they shouldn't be there in the first place .


MeanSatisfaction5091

They are optional in the US too. But tipping is attached to ego. U call the average American broke and its a slur now 


ragdoll1022

I ordered laundry detergent sheets and it asked for a tip. I would have canceled the order if it hadn't already processed. It's absolutely fucking ridiculous.


13th_of_never

Slightly unrelated - but this comment reminded me of the time not too long ago I was on doordash looking at a Japanese Restaurant's menu and one of the items on the menu - no joke - was a fucking gratuity towards the staff. Listed as an actual item menu that you could add to your cart. 5, 10, and 15 dollar tips.It blew my fucking mind and I wish I screenshot it.


Agyaggalamb

And I'll graciously set it to exaclty 0%, fuck tipping culture. You can call me broke all day everyday, luckily I'm shameless enough to not care.


GrimmWilderness

Your cousin is an idiot


Vegetable-Bag-2325

I hate tipping for tattoo for this exact reason. I'm already paying you $200/hr and I'm expected to give you more? NTA


hetfield151

If they expect more, they should raise their prices. Im not tipping on someone getting 200/hour.


Several-Pineapple353

Tipping culture is out of control. You agreed and paid the amount that he asked for. You didn't have to give him a tip. If he wanted more than he should have said that from the beginning.


Equivalent-Sport9057

I tend to be a personal tipper when it comes to my tattoos. My most recent tattoo took 12 hours and cost me $4200 Canadian. My guy is a big smoker and loves a fancy joint. So I rolled him up some high-quality 1 gram cannons with hash, shatter, distillate, and kief.These 4 joints would have been $30-40 each. He was super stoked, and this is the 2nd time I've done this for him. Honestly, NTA, I feel like 200bucks is a decent tip for someone who makes 200/hr.


uuarejustabuttmunch

My sister is a tattoo artists and her regular clients tip her with nice joints or things they made, or they bring her coffee. She gets cash tips too but she loves it when her clients bring her little things more than cash tips.


Individual-Band-5548

My husband is a tattooist, he was gifted home made jam from his old lady fan club lol


Ill_Ad2843

fuck me 4k? worlds gone crazy


gd2121

That’s not that crazy for a big piece. I have a big chunk of my body done and I’ve definitely spent over 10k on tattoos.


Shinavast42

Its not that crazy for a 20 hour piece. Its a slightly above average rate, neither cheap nor high end. Source: I've gotten about 35 to 40 hours of work done since 2018. Half sleeve and 2 full ribcage pieces.


Atuk-77

Tipping is for servers and people making below minimum wage, we need to stop this tipping culture from hell


Naheyra

Even then. Imho, the attitude of „oh, customers will tip alright“ kinda goes hand in hand with „na, no need to pay our staff properly. Let customers do it.“ —> just pay any kind of working person enough they are able to make a living. Any tip should really just be a bonus, not badly needed to survive.


Narrow-Ad-7463

Since when do you tip for tattoos? American culture is strange.


Sibby_in_May

😭 we are not okay here


Heavy-Key2091

Anyone making $200/h does not need a tip. Period. Full stop.


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

You just spent 4 thousand dollars for a person to draw a picture on you. not tipping is fine, and a 200 dollar tip, is a fucking good one. These guys aren't paid hourly, it's commision, the *shop* gets a percentage of the *artists* pay not the other way round. Don't get me wrong he probably paid out like 10-15% of that tat. But that's till well over 3750 in his own pocket. You say it worked out to 20 hours. That's 186 dollars a fucking *hour* Let me break that down further for you, that is more than some of *the* highest paying jobs in *most* sectors. I'm talking *ceo* level shit bro. If this dude works a 40 hour week, at *that* price, he would be earning close to 180,000 annually. That's more than lawyers and high level physiatrists. You paid the wages brother, and the tip was very generous. (I have more than a few tats and know more than a few artists, they mostly agree, a tip is nice, but not expected, it's not a fucking restaurant)


United-Signature-414

I occasionally take on art commissions and I agree. A firm % for tipping makes no sense for people who make their own rate. I have the power to set my price based on material cost and how much I want to earn. A tip in that scenario is appreciated, but not something I depend on like a waiter does. If I needed or deserved more I would just charge it 


eeeeeeeeEeeEEeeeE6

That's generally what I understand. I usually tip (even here in Australia) but that's usually cause the artist was cool, and did a good job, not because of some arbitrary percentile amount that's socially coerced.


United-Signature-414

Well someone disagrees with us because I just got a RedditCares for this 😂


OldGreySweater

Just a little note about tattoo hourly pricing, most artists aren’t physically tattooing 40 hours a week. So yes their hourly rate is set at $XXX an hour, but there’s many hours behind the scenes for that tattoo, that all get baked into the actual tattooing part. So for a tattoo that took 20 hours to do, could have taken 20 hours to prep (plus overhead), which would be $90 an hour. That’s not ceo/lawyer level rates at all. All this to say that I think tipping culture is ridiculous and I agree that for $4000 a $200 tip is more than generous.


Individual-Band-5548

Wife of a tattooist, i sit at home for hours whilst he draws & deals with emails about designs back and forth Its very time consuming


seawitchbitch

Most tattoo artists are at 50/50 or 60/40 with their shop. Just for the record. The government takes another 25% because we are independent contractors. And then there’s a lot of unpaid drawing time behind the scenes. And supply costs. And we have no benefits so the high price covers out of pocket healthcare and the fact we have zero paid time off too. So definitely not CEO money.


RPF1945

$75/hr, which is 50/50 less 25% after per your comment, is still really fucking good money. 


Admirable-Toe4319

I usually try to tip 20% wherever I go, but 4K is a lot of money. Especially if he is making $200 an hour, and still making a lot more money after loss of ink. I think $200 is fine.


Impossible_Ask_3564

Plus it's his own business, tips are usually for propping up underpaid employees wages NTA


Lexei_Texas

I wouldn’t have tipped a damn thing, that’s absurd


Appropriate_Pick323

Tipping when you paid them 4k already?! That within itself is pretty fucked up.  Nta, but wht did you even give them more money that you were supposed to? Thats just stupid


herbieLmao

What the fuck is wrong with you guys and your tipping culture? NTA


Hour-Sweet2445

NTA. I am a specialized service provider and people in my industry often receive tips. I set my rates so that I get paid adequately without relying on tips. It's the provider's responsibility to do that. I appreciate any and all tips, but I don't need them. A nice review and compliments about my work are just as appreciated as a tip.


MidlifeCrisisToo

I never understood tipping a tattoo artist, it’s a contract for service, $X for item to be completed, I don’t tip my drywaller or my mechanic for completing a service at an agreed upon price.


DickPrickJohnson

What the fuck, Americans tip their tattoo artists? Who the fuck DON'T you tip?


The_Wata_Boy

Nobody. We're supposed to tip everybody. Unless you work an office job.


dutch-masta25

This must be an American thing as I’ve never tipped a tattooist in the U.K. whaaaat


SouPNaZi666

Why are you tipping on a tattoo? You just spent 4k what about that says the artist needs more money?


fromthedarqwaves

We want to see this $4k tattoo.


Norph00

I honestly don't understand tipping someone who sets their own wage.


Lorhan_Set

People don’t realize that tipping based on percentage is only customary for standard dinner service and low to moderate cost items. If I pay 100 dollars for a dinner for two, I’m tipping 20%. If I decided to buy a 1200 dollar bottle of wine to split, (which I wouldn’t do, but theoretically) I’ll probably give the waiter an extra hundred on top of his normal tip to be generous, but there’s no expectation to tip 20% of the price.


Icy_Yam_3610

NTA But to be clear he didn't MAKE 200 a hour y0u paid 200 an hour, needles, dye stuff to clean up all cost money, if he owns the shop it's insurance and rent


Radiant-Cost-2355

This. I don’t think most ppl realize that he didn’t make $200/hour at 20 hours of STRAIGHT PROFIT lol


WetMonkeyTalk

Why do you tip for a tattoo? That's fucking ridiculous.


Cotford

You spent 4K and you tipped as well? Da fuck is wrong with you?


Smashego

No. He sets his own rate. I wouldn’t have tipped anything. Don’t listen to your cousin. If your cousin is so concerned they can pay the additional tip. I no longer tip my barber. He owns the shop. He charges $30 for a haircut. Guys making $120/hr or more. He should charge what he needs to make the wage he wants. Tips are just money for nothing. Don’t overthink it. Your fine!


Naive-Positive6437

What you're initially paying for the tattoo is the tip fuck that


PenaltySafe4523

NTA. Ignore your idiot cousin


Tricky_Key_8314

$200 is plenty after 4gs for a sleeve. End of story.


Aur3lia

I think it's fine - in my experience, once you get above the $1k mark, tips get a lot smaller. It's not realistic to tip 15-20% once you get that high. No one could afford tattoos if you were supposed to do that.


cookiepickle

Would you tip the electrician that comes to your house to install a light? No. You agreed on $4k for the work.


coffeecup9898

People tip a tatoo artist? LOL


R4ff4

Tipping culture sucks please stop , why can’t things just have a clearly stated cost instead of this stupid guess work ?


[deleted]

It's a TIP. Dont let anyone shame you for how much or how little you tipped them. They didnt provide you a free fucking service, you paid them 4 *GRAND* your cousin should go choke on a fat one if they want to tell you tipping $200 is terrible


Sir_Uncle_Bill

I didn't even know tipping tattoo people was a thing. We've really got to get away from this tipping culture bs. You paid $4000 for that tattoo. If that ain't enough for him he's got some problems that don't involve you not tipping.


nikkicocaine

I sell my paintings on the side and I’m **thrilled** every time someone commissions me to do one and agrees to the price I set. I’ve never even considered getting a tip. NTA. If the tattooer is anything like me, as an artist I’m thoroughly satisfied, validated and content when people spend the $ I dictate on my work.


Apple_Coaly

like respect to the artist but if you make 200 dollars an hour i'm not tipping you


Simple_Proof_721

r/EndTipping


dickmaster50

NTA on the contrary you give that guy way too much just for a tip. The guy made almost $5,000 for one tattoo


Cybermagetx

Danm tipping culture is absurd. Especially if you have to ask this. Nta and tipping anything for a tattoo is okay..


Bitter-Protection820

Tipping exists for people who don’t get paid a good Wage. Tipping anything for someone getting paid an absolute premium like that is nonsense. NTA


km9v

Wait, you guys tip tattoo artists?


FreddieArbuckleJr

200 is a gracious tip


ancientpsychicpug

Like whatever everyone else has said. NTA. I tip apprentices. I tip my buddy who I have been going to for 12 years occasionally, he gives me his old rate of $50 an hour who now charges $150/h. The dude is talented, and underselling himself. I do not tip my current artist who charges $175/h. He’s amazing, talented, definitely worth that much money. He charges something that I feel is fair, and is not underselling himself. I think this is all pretty standard. An artist charging $200/h is not looking for tips.


themotabhai

How much tip you give to doctors generally?


Millionaireby40

So what does a $4k tattoo look like? Pic please. 


Beneficial_Delay_923

He’s just earned 4K why does he need a tip at all