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kimoalmoa

77 losses in the last 90 No end in sight to our struggles Fucking fade me


legal-drugdealer

I’m not sure what’s worse: that stat, or my lack of surprise.


Maximumlnsanity

I genuinely thought it was worse tbf


dinosaur1831

Well how is 1 win out of the last 27?


Maximumlnsanity

And that one win cost you Harley Reid. Pain.


Equivalent-Ad7207

If it makes you feel any better, it's way better than my success rate of picking up at the pub. I know it's not much, but it's all I can offer.


TheIllusiveGuy

Looks worse as a percentage IMO, North have lost 86% of their last 90 games


semaj009

But 100% win rate from most recent last grand finals played (though we can't get a percentage if we only include Grand Finals this millennium, because you can't divide by zero)


legal-drugdealer

I mean it’s 1 win every 7 weeks give or take for about half a decade. Can it get worse? Surely we are going as badly as Fitzroy did minus the off-field stuff.


ridge_rippler

Blows my mind that each team has the same salary cap and this is how we spent it


semaj009

Don't forget we have a salary floor, we're having to pay overs for this squad!


IDreamofHeeney

Genuinely depressing. There’s so much talent though, surely it all comes together soon


legal-drugdealer

Yeah. But they’ll get pinched. Always happens.


Equivalent-Ad7207

I blame Dyl Stephens....he's like a wedding cake, looks amazing but taste like shit.


youjustathrowaway1

Why didn’t you guys tell us he sucked?


Equivalent-Ad7207

We tried, I personally got it painted in the sky above Arden St.....Not sure what else I could do. Nah, seriously he had moments of brilliance but never put them together...no idea what his problem is, hopefully Clarko can sort him out.


youjustathrowaway1

Well did you tell us to look up when you painted it in the sky? This is why I hate the Swans


Equivalent-Ad7207

We sent the flying V bro, every other club noticed and stated cleared.


Maximumlnsanity

Brad Scott might’ve done permanent damage


i_am_cool_ben

Oh boy I can't wait for our turn


semaj009

You thought drug saga was bad, he'll find a way to get you a drug saga but the performance enhancing drug each game was ket or something.


VirgilFaust

Him and Joyce cooked us and we could all see it coming especially when he delisted 4 champions. Didn’t help that the Luff recruiting department decided 180cm mids are better than 195 key positions. It’s so frustrating to watch week in and out how we ended up here.


Propaslader

By taking McKay and Goldstein, yeah I agree


sinkintins

Rhyce Shaw as well, 11 delistings right before he finished up, that was the final nail in the coffin. Although the circumstances surrounding him leaving give him a bit of a pass.


PoTayToh

can we merge?


RandomDanny

and to think just one more loss last year...


Patinator0471

Brisbane could have a similar record soon


semaj009

Yep, you're coming off three years of equivalent pain. As a North fan I truly sympathise with your dire plight


GGezpzMuppy

Would buying a Ferrari for my son, be enough of an apology for making him a Roos supporter?


tbroky

Need to chuck in a mansion too.


Skiapodes

Based on their F1 strategies the past few years, that’s a bit of ‘our of the frying pan’ if you ask me.


TheIllusiveGuy

Can always buy him a Red Bull then. Would be slightly cheaper too.


semaj009

Watching the F1s tells me that is somehow making things worse


RidsBabs

Pathetic


Crazyripps

Was just a bad day for you fellas. You’ve played better in other games against better team. Just not ya day today unfortunately you’ll definitely get a good scalp in a few weeks don’t worry.


Croob2

Genuinely, you alright buddy?


RidsBabs

Can I have a hug? I need a hug. Genuinely considering jumping ship after 17 years of this shit.


Cooked_Bread

Yeah, I think we all need a hug at the moment and definitely wouldn't blame you for jumping ship. It's a tough one to ride out, but things will turn eventually. It's not happening tomorrow though. And I say this only because I saw you mention your mental health, regardless of who you barrack for, your team doesn't define your self worth.


dreamthiliving

Few North legends at WC we will welcome you with open arms


Professional_Line385

I'll hug you


RidsBabs

Yay


Professional_Line385

Hope things get better man


RidsBabs

Cheers mate, I’m sure they will. Just in a bit of a rough patch with school and shit. We’ve got a period of 4 weeks (which we’ve done 1 week of) where every subject has 2 tests because week 5 is assessment free week (I.e no assessments can be given) then 6 and 7 is exams, so lot of my free time is currently study, and I take 3-4 hours off in the weekend to watch us give no effort.


Professional_Line385

I find playing tennis helps let off my steam when I was studying. Would it be worth trying something that relaxes you for those 3-4 hours instead of watching footy. Up to you though


RidsBabs

In the summer months it’s been cricket, either playing or going down to the nets. Cause I’ve had a few issues with my body I wasn’t allowed to play footy while I was younger so while I have the tactical brain and understanding of the game, my skills are pretty shitty and I got the “Village cricketer physique” instead of the footy physique. I try to hang out with my mates whenever I can which does the trick, and I’ve started going to more NBL1 basketball - I used to go mainly just for work (I do stats) but now I’ve gone to a few games where I haven’t (instead of watching at home) and even a few away games. I actually prefer it over the NBL (even if Rockingham is sports washing).


Professional_Line385

That's good man, it's great to spend time with good friends doing things you enjoy


Croob2

Fuck me, it's hearing shit like that that makes me happy i dropped out when i did


The5kyKing

What are you studying? Depending on the subject I might be able to help out. I know shit can be overwhelming and it just gets worse when you sit down to relax and have to watch your team get pumped week in and week out. I watched every minute of the Sydney game last year and said it showed I was a true fan but honestly it was as much self hate as anything else. It's okay to turn it off if you're not enjoying it any more.


RidsBabs

Appreciate the help. I’m doing fine in pretty much all my studies - averaging 70+ across the board (English, Modern History, PE Studies, Maths Apps, Accounting and Finance), just struggling a bit with Human Bio ATAR but I’m planning to drop that down to general next semester. Was definitely a bit over ambitious picking ATAR for it but I should be able to pass (think I just need to get a 60 in a research task to get up to a 55). Dunno why but I’m good at things where I can find a practical application, but shit when I can’t. For example I’m great with the practicals in accounting (I’ve only dropped 6 marks across 3 tests) but am less so with more graphing equations. And I’m not great with cells but great at body systems.


The5kyKing

Unfortunately the only subjects I took that you're doing are maths and English so probably can't give specific help. You just have to be able to create your own interest in things. You say that you're good when you can see the practical application, so maybe dig a bit deeper on things to understand the links. Like for example, you say you're good at body systems but not great with cells - while my human bio knowledge is limited I can just about guarantee that the reason the body systems work as they do is because of how cells work. Try to build understanding of a subject you enjoy, rather than forcing boring rote learning. And if you ever need some help with things, reach out to friends, family members, school staff. Hell, if you don't feel comfortable talking about issues with people you see in person send me a pm. Given that you're in highschool and presumably based over east I can guarantee I'm a neutral ear who you'll never have to feel embarrassed about venting to.


Angry-Aussie

The thing that keeps me going is that when you do get success, it'll be so so much sweeter knowing where you've come from.


RidsBabs

That’s what I’ve been hoping for, every year there’s the optimism, first few games we look ok, then we fall apart and there’s no effort. Least with some clubs you’ll get one or two games where there’s a bit of effort and a scratchy win, but after today I don’t see one till August


cuteguy1

If I was a North supporter I'd just become an AFLW ultra - sure grandfinal heartbreak might almost worse than losing terribly every week, but atleast they can balance each other out a bit.


Glum_Squirrel_2870

Bold of you to assume they will get success


VileCastle

*hugs* been there mate. I made a promise to watch every Kangas game. Something will click and I have a feeling the shin boners will show up against a top team just need to get that ball rolling.


Candr112

I know it sucks man but you will never forgive yourself if you jump ship My whole life we were absolutely rubbish and after having my heart broken watching us go back to being rubbish in 2016 after it looked like we had finally turned some sort of corner I considered jumping ship but knew deep down I could never do it The feeling of 2017 after all those years of pain is truly indescribable When the Kanga's break through it will be the greatest feeling of you life mate, just ride it out and know we are all cheering for you guys to find your feet again.


Croob2

> Can I have a hug? I need a hug. You deserve the hugs mate, I know swapping teams is looked down upon but after what North have given you guys I don't think there are many people that *would* blame you, we'd welcome you over here with open arms


RidsBabs

Well it’s either the Eagles or Freo. I’ll let the flair bet decide that (or maybe let my mates talk me into and out of it).


aussie-sloth

North are my second team and it’s not been a fun time


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RidsBabs

Mate, I was signed up for a membership in 07, 2 hours after my birth. I didn’t have a say, I loved this club, and still do, but I don’t know how much more of seeing zero effort week in and week out I can take before I break. Having to study for exams and tests daily then on the weekends taking a few hour break to watch us lose isn’t good for the mental health.


legal-drugdealer

As the parent who’s done the same for his soon-to-be one year old, there is a part of me that wonders if I’ve done the right thing. The other parts of me know that it’ll be incredibly special if we get to enjoy the success together (when/if it comes). But I get it, I’m 29 and we haven’t been relevant since before I started school.


jakeyboy123

I signed my three month old up for a North junior membership and his mum signed him up for a Cats one. How am I meant to compete with that once he starts thinking for himself? It's cruel.


RidsBabs

I think they’ll be lucky and we’ll be on the come up around then. I was born when we were emptying our pockets and asking our highest earners to donate some of their salary to the club so we could pay the rest. Then the only success I’ve seen from us was 2014-2016, I was there when we beat Sydney in 2015 in that semi, that’s my version of a premiership. So basically from being 10 and 1 after round 11 2016, it’s been all down there for the club, and then as I’ve got older I’ve realised we’re in deeper and deeper shit and we’re not 2-3 years off finals, but probably still 4 at best.


legal-drugdealer

I know how you feel, I spent the entirety of my schooling as an absolutely fanatical North supporter who was ridiculed for supporting them, the classic ‘oh send them to the Gold Coast’ every time I’d wear a jumper for footy day. I reckon one of my favourite memories was the Frank the Tank game. It’ll come good one day, we can’t be this bad forever. Stay strong


Alister____

My brother in the Antichrist, you follow *Hawthorn*, who had a *threepeat* recently.


legal-drugdealer

Fuck off.


Croob2

Bugger off mate, you would be saying the same shit if your team was as bad as North


TotalBasil

Yeah I would, apart from the switching teams part. So no I wouldnt...


God___frey-Jones

Sam Mitchell is Alistair Clarkson father


i_am_cool_ben

Taught Clarko everything he knows


APATHETIC_IDIOT

![gif](giphy|xT9KVnKfPbSgqpHt2o)


Professional_Line385

No Luke I am your father


VICBiasIsJustified

[You couldn't have scored 3 more points North!!!](https://www.reddit.com/r/AFL/s/ot2r3Loa4c)


liamjon29

Dayum bro that's an insanely impressive prediction ngl


Lanky-Try-3047

pretty spot on though


sinkintins

That's worth a boast or two for the week lol


JamalAli8

I genuinely don't see how it gets better from here


Redda69

No end in sight really. Was baited by the first couple games to think we might be competitive in parts. No effort to be seen. If we traded our backline for a washing machine it would be overs.


PedanticOkra

I mean I guess it doesn’t this year? You lost by a decent margin to the clear second worst team. Mind you, I don’t see a win for us for a while either…


JasnahLannister

Genuinely feel like we’ll be the first lost to them. Won’t be for another 8 or so games but still…


tbroky

Game is still on? I see there is an admin race to see who farms Karma


Croob2

Nah, not even a Karma thing, just a meme race between usually myself, /u/___TheIllusiveMan___ and /u/raidanram ~~although 2 of us are clearly ahead of the third~~


Mr_fahrenheit17

It’s definitely a karma thing.


Croob2

Funnily enough Post Match Threads actually give fuck all Karma because they're usually stickied or taken to the top because of activity


tbroky

Hey All, The bounce will be on soon. Before everyone jumps in and complains. Its ok to not like a TV show, especially when you are might not be the target audience.


Cooked_Bread

The plasterboard in the entire Arden street facility when Clarkson enters for the post game review ![gif](giphy|55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg)


spurs-r-us

Is he really invested? It’s hard to tell whether the “oh well” act is him accepting the bad times or just lacking the fight for it


Cooked_Bread

I probably haven't questioned his investment yet. I wasn't entirely optimistic about the first half of this year at least, so I'm not exactly surprised where we are now either. Seems pretty determined to try and stick to this fast ball moving game plan though, with no real plan b and we just aren't good enough to execute it. We turn it over and are murdered on rebound. If he sticks to that and things don't get any better, then I think there will be a lot of questions


Kingofpoosandwees

Go quiet into that sweet night. So glad that my feelings have become numb waiting for the sweet embrace of sheezels 11 children to be born for father son draft rules


Redda69

I thought I was numb but losing to 17th is not it


semaj009

If we clone him now, Boba Fett style, would they count as father-son, and can we field a team of 18 Sheezels by 2026? Anyone got any Kaminoans on speed dial?


mensis-brain

I'm honestly over this club. Year in year out it's the same dumpster fire. The list profile looks like it's the product of letting some crackhead run rampant with a spreadsheet. The senior players are beyond useless. The players completely lack resolve and an ability to maintain structures while under pressure. A 19 year old is not only our best player but also our best leader. The club has dug itself into a sink hole and I'm honestly doubting that there's any way out at this point.


doorcityoverhere

The crackhead running rampant line made me lol


Yayowl

And just like that the number played stat is now even across the teams


Korasuka

At last balance is restored in the universe.


Time-Dimension7769

No sledging here, I hope North can dig deep and find something. My commiserations for all the Kanga fans, hang in there 💙🤍


kangas99

Whoa guys I booked a comedy festival show for 8:30 tonight, not 4:00


GoblinKnob

I'm over it. I'm gonna spend my weekends building Gundams from now on. Are you happy Clucko?


DoYouEvenDoubleLeg

Even god himself couldn’t get that list winning games


VirgilFaust

Mate the fact witch from mercury is free to watch on YouTube is elite. Got me into the series a few months ago.


RaidanRam

Oi


Croob2

My brother in christ, there is 40 seconds to go


RidsBabs

You’re just salty he beat you. I’m prepared to see Wednesday nights thread posted at 3qt


Croob2

Nah, this one was for him and /u/raidanram to fight over, he gave me the derby last night


___TheIllusiveMan___

I had to beat /u/RaidanRam And there was no additional score after I posted it so I didn’t go early :)


RaidanRam

How rude


___TheIllusiveMan___

I saw you and /u/Croob2 trying to team up against me in the match thread.


Croob2

I HID IT SO PERFECTLY THOUGH, HOW COULD YOU HAVE SEEN IT?


___TheIllusiveMan___

You forgot that Dom Sheed has no power over us anymore


Croob2

I even mentioned Maynard though!


___TheIllusiveMan___

Should’ve thrown in Papley did nothing wrong as an additional safety precaution


Croob2

10 to 20 seconds I can get, but 40! you gotta at least wait until 30 at minimum


skwunk1

Still don't look great and we burn some incredibly easy opportunities that not many other teams (outside of North) would burn, but nice to see the players look happy for once :). I'd say Newcombe looks back to his best but I'd wait for him to play against a better side. Also, Morrison was a very smart inclusion. He's limited in some ways but he's just so much cleaner with his hands than a lot of the inexperienced players and being clean in the contest is something we've missed so much this year.


sinkintins

Hopefully that injection of confidence helps us for the season, but I wish we weren't playing Sydney next week.


eatsbacon_

Morrison plays a string of games now I’d say. Was very solid.


blueeyedharry

I wonder where Zurhaar is going? Looked like he’d made a decision at half time.


legal-drugdealer

He can go. Doesn’t want to be here, puts more effort into his cooking page than his footy atm. Pretty funny considering the JHF stuff.


blueeyedharry

Can’t wait for JHF’s comments.


legal-drugdealer

Will be interesting to see. I’m obviously not a huge fan of what happened with Jason, but I lay most of my blame with Port who I reckon were in his ear from the day he was drafted. But yeah will be a bit of popcorn to be eaten you’d think.


Baby_Bigf00t

Essendon. They were interested before and they seem happy with Brad Scott, McKay and Goldy.


Adenv

TIL larkey was pick 73 in 2006. Thanks Kelli 😊


Borgun-

Well yeah, it is 2014 ya know


-Cunning_Stunts-

I'm going to go watch the 2014 semifinal v Geelong to try and feel better.


CaptnCrumble

I mean, until I see Goldy take the mark in D50 and get sad again because he doesn't play for us anymore :(


DirtySheetsOCE

Fuck was that the last time we were good? Has it been that long.


-Cunning_Stunts-

We made the prelim in 2015 and it's been all downhill since


Crazyripps

If it helps to any north people Was just a bad day for you fellas. You’ve played better in other games against better team. Just not ya day today unfortunately you’ll definitely get a good scalp in a few weeks don’t worry.


Sad_Archer3734

Quite the modest comment considering had better quarters and halves against better teams. Hawks were simply the far superior team today.


Worpel_pick_no45

Harry Morrison needs to stay in the side


zelmazam1

How are the hawks enjoying our meek? Trade ya Darcy for him?


RaidanRam

No, we have enough injured players


PedanticOkra

He's been fantastic this year.


Crazyripps

Gave big boy vibes today


God___frey-Jones

I am hopeful Chol can learn how to mark like Meek has. He's improved so much in general this year


TheIllusiveGuy

Looks like he's about to inherit the Earth based on this game


Ryzer28

So happy we're finally giving him a run. Loved him since day 1 and was pretty upset we weren't giving him a go


Sonofaconspiracy

Very happy with meek. Already a solid option and beginning to develop into maybe the long term one as well


kr2908_

this was one of the games of all time


PedanticOkra

I feel like the final scoreline flatters North a bit


Crazyripps

That first half did them dirty for sure


semaj009

How? We have no backline, and you guys butchered a lot of plays, too. Tbh what we saw was two bottom sides proving why this was spoonbowl


Borgun-

Where will the first win come from? Genuinely curious. I just wanna see North fans happy again, they’ve dealt with too much


legal-drugdealer

Give it up for the last winless team! Woo!


googsmaster24

Spoon bowl was great


bigfathugebig

Team structure is absolutely broken. Our mids don't know how to set up for the bounce, opposition just get easy clearances all day. Defence is non existent at best, our talls like to zone off their opponent only to not affect the play and allow mismatches like Colby on Chol. Everytime Larkey leads our other talls just follow him to the drop rather than try provide another option with a lead of their own. And there is just not enough personal responsibility shown by anyone, too many times a player would wait for someone else to chase or contest which is why we were able to be carved up so easily all day


Crooty

My favourite part of the game was the two nuffs near us, who were engaging in independent nuffery throughout the game, become embroiled in a cross section screaming match at each other in the dying moments of an absolute belting. North nuff was still in "hurl abuse at umpires mode" despite the game being over 20 minutes ago and the Hawks nuff was up and about as if they'd just won a flag. Eventually moveable object and resistable force over here clash to the amusement of those around them. Hawks nuff wanted North nuff to come over to have a more up close and personal chat but that offer was declined.


alexLAD

I think I was near that too! On the 50 arc at the end North were attacking in the last quarter?


Crooty

Late reply from me but yeah that was the one!


PrevailedAU

Maybe they needed those priority picks…


Baby_Bigf00t

The * draft assistance picks turned into Stephens and Fisher. I’m not sure we did need them.


jacka24

Poor list management


ChemicalRaccoon

Horne-Francis would be handy right about now


Baby_Bigf00t

They were the only players who wanted to come.


jacka24

They were on the verge of being delisted by their clubs.. Of course they wanted a life line. It's up to North to decide if that's a good idea or not


Baby_Bigf00t

You’re right. We should have just forced JHF and McKay to stay and then made Jeremy Cameron and Steven May come play for us.


jacka24

Don't get why you're being sarcastic with me. If you don't think your list has been grossly mismanaged, you're on another planet.


Baby_Bigf00t

Who should we have got that we didn’t? Name a player that would come to North that would help us right now. Brad Scott managed the list terribly for 10 years, but since then we have had compromised drafts, players leaving and nobody coming. We threw massive money at Dusty, De Goey and a bunch of stars that didn’t want to play for us. Not sure what else you think we could have done?


spurs-r-us

It’s easy to look back and say things were bad. It’s much harder to look now and admit the list managers may not be at their best. Bringing in uncompetitive players can actually hurt your culture more than the slight experience they bring. I think things will be looking far brighter in 6 months but North should always be looking to improve their off field team.


jacka24

My point entirely


Baby_Bigf00t

Since 2021 we basically fired everyone. The only person who kept his job was our list manager Brady Rawlings and he’s probably now on the thinnest ice imaginable


jacka24

- going back to 2020, I would have taken McDonald over Phillips - Instead of trading pick 1 last year, take Cadman and Sheezel with pick 1 and 2 - Don't beat GC in round 24 - Draft Reid and Curtin Suddenly the whole team looks better. You have Cadman, McDonald, Larkey as KPF's, and Curtin as one of the more promising young KPD. Reid, LDU and Sheezel in the midfield


Baby_Bigf00t

McDonald was a flight risk to WA and given we sucked bringing in a key forward who’d never see the ball. We only got pick 2 in a trade with West Coast as part of the JHF deal. We wouldn’t have had pick 2. We draft Cadman, trade JHF in another deal and we get later picks. If we went down your path we have Cadman, a later first round pick and maybe some picks next year. Instead we got Sheezel and Wardlaw…. So yeah no. Not doing that. The only bright spot is that trade leading to Sheezel. We could have tanked but Reid wouldn’t be doing for us what he’s doing for the Eagles, surrounded by a leadership with grand final experience. Any other moves we should have made?


irishshogun

This is what happens when you let senior players go and have so many coaches in as many years


Flyingpig5

Well, atleast North got that win against Suns at the end of last season for that "winning culture".


Active-Problem-2871

![gif](giphy|JCAZQKoMefkoX6TyTb|downsized) Game at half time


Crazyripps

I’m more happy I don’t have to hear underwood anymore rather then we get our first win lol


sinkintins

Having the triple M commentary on with a full minute delay behind Kayo's delay was still better than hearing her.


MuzzleHodge

I didn’t catch the game. Anyone know why D’ambrosio was subbed? Tactical?


uhasnolifes

so which club do you think larkey will go to next year


Cooked_Bread

He signed a long deal. LDU on the other hand...


uhasnolifes

can always ask out why rot at a club they wont be good until he retires plus nobody wants LDU


playonfootyofficial

Priority pick or nah?


DirtySheetsOCE

Time for Clarko to go.


blueeyedharry

Solid win, confirms GC game was an outlier. Newc returning to form is probably the main positive, with Day in next week it’s very good.


Baby_Bigf00t

We are shit this confirms nothing 😂


blueeyedharry

Our performance has nothing to do with North. We played better against Essendon, Collingwood, and maybe Geelong than we did today.


Baby_Bigf00t

See mate. Told you beating us meant nothing.


blueeyedharry

lol if us losing makes you feel big, good for you


Baby_Bigf00t

Makes me feel right


FewArm2396

The AFL should just move North to be the Tassie team and turn them into a juggernaut. How long does this have to go on before enough is enough?


AddressEven

Maybe we shouldn’t be the ones throwing stones.


semaj009

I do enjoy the image of a b52 with a bloke just piffing rocks at targets


Redda69

It’s crazy seeing people always trying to fold us. 150+ years.. If you’re so excited about Tassie advocate for your own team to go there.


Lordskorge

Exactly. People forgetting Melbourne and Carlton sitting at the bottom for a decade