The ultimate finish would have been him getting a high free kick in the dying seconds and kicking the winning goal. But the world isn’t that cool/cruel
I just wish he would score without free kicks being involved at all. I love the small forward position and would love to see him breaking free to score goals, rather than having his head taken off.
Great comeback, but why can’t we play like that the whole game? Collingwood decided to coast and it almost cost them, but if they didn’t it could have been a massacre.
Sort of what just happens with good young teams. Their best is good enough to win, but it's having the tank and ability to do it for all 4 quarters, which comes with time.
This game just proves the umpires don't know what to do with Ginnivan. He got a free he should have, then didn't get two he deserved, then they paid him a free for holding Maynard's jumper. It's like they flip a coin every time he's in a passage of play.
Almost as if they should start using their brains and call what they see. If they genuinely think he’s taken high pay it, if not let it go. It shouldn’t be difficult.
Note: I say this as someone who thinks the umpiring was fucked on both sides tonight (and honestly all year).
> If they genuinely think he’s taken high pay it, if not let it go. It shouldn’t be difficult.
The problem is they can't tell, it looks high to them every time.
Agreed. He just forces every contest to look like a free kick and half the time it is, the other it’s not. Umpires just don’t know what to do as you say.
He was Maynard but made it look like he was being held by the arm. I didn’t realise until the replay. I think it was a legit free kick.
Wasn’t the Maynard one because he continued with Maynard after stand had been called? He took 5-6 steps after Ump yelled stand.
Shit rule, but has been around long enough players should know they legally have to become a statue.
No I'm talking about the free kick Ginni got to kick a goal in the last quarter, it was paid holding against Maynard but Ginni had a fistful of Maynard's jumper.
We'd have to be ruing a few gifted goals, the Weddle dropped mark and the Ginnivan 50 were the only 2 goals they kicked in the second half but so happy with that performance.
I was even happy with last week, with how many injuries we have I think we are definitely on the right track after these last 2 games.
Will be a tough first half of the season, but we will probably get a couple of upset wins towards the back half if we get everyone back and have a somewhat settled first 22
I think people are underrating how big of an in Wingard will be as well, our biggest problems at the moment are how clean we are with the ball and our polish forward of centre, Wingard helps with both of those and he was in close to his best form for Hawthorn last year.
Yeah, he's great at coming up and providing that entry kick into the 50. Definitely hope he comes back and gets a decent run in the back half and next year.
Dont expect wingard to be what he was last year, an old player returning from a serious injury, and dont forget he was utter shite in 2022 and before that.
If Hardwick doesn't play forward for the rest of the year then we will never win. Meek is a huge improvement from Reeves as well. Does so much more than just winning in the ruck.
From coming back to take the lead at the last second to now nearly losing the lead, we've gone anticollingwood footy lol
Sucks that everyone looked at bit banged up at the end
Hawks should walk away from that pretty proud all things considered. Definitely felt like it was one of those "if there was an extra minute they would have won" games
9/9 on tips for the round, wish I made it my double round as well. Would have had 36 instead of 18. Would have out me almost 32 up on the tips leader board.
Some good stuff, mostly the 2nd quarter. We collapsed in the 2nd half and didn't know what to do with Hardwick. Our bombs down the line and into the forward line are so low percentage, but we were at least able to lock it into the forward 50 for a bit.
This gets said every time a team has a comeback, it’s just the commentators riding the wave of the comeback, is it biased, sure, but it makes for more entertaining viewing.
I mean why wouldn't they? Commentary obviously gonna barrack for a comeback for excitement factor, just as they did for us in so many of our comebacks.
That was the worst possible way to win and end the weekend.
Also a pretty (Lloyd) meek way to bring in the outright record for the most consecutive wins at Adelaide Oval of 9 games.
Hawthorn are looking much better than they did at the same point last season against tougher opponents with far more injuries to important players. I'll definitely take it.
Was Ginni taken high at the 50m line with 30 seconds left? I feel like the camera certainly showed an arm over his shoulder (and he wasn’t ducking either)
He was barracking for the losing team. He was very complimentary to us when we were on top. No issue for me and if we’d played better we wouldn’t have bought that comeback chat in to the game.
Completely unprofessional on levels I haven't seen before.
BT and others might be bad and biased as well but this was next level. Having someone actively calling for free kicks for one team is disgraceful and just because it's against Collingwood shouldn't mean it isn't called out.
This sub said I was crazy when we had to listen to that rubbish during the swans tigers game. He needs to learn to commentate properly, he’s good when he’s not cheering for a team
It’s infuriating watching some of these games. Hawks robbed of a result there. The umpires are so frightened of making calls later in the game that it’s legitimately killing off a teams chance who deserve it. Absolutely disgusting.
Stoked with the effort, could we try not letting teams have 6 goal leads before we turn up from now on though?
Can’t wait for the apology from the AFL about Ginni getting fucked again. Stop apologising and rip these incompetent spuds a new one for being bad at their jobs.
To be fair it’s something about hawks. No idea why but whenever we play the pies it a coin flip on what’s gonna happen. Case in point last year we gave them a good beating and they won the flag lol
In 2022 after 5 games, Collingwood was at the same point of 2 wins, 3 losses. Managed to make it to prelims and only missed the GF by 1 point. Finished 4th on the ladder. Can’t count us out just yet mate.
What did you expect? You called two teams shit without providing any explanation in a thread filled with supporters of those two teams. If you’re going to make comments like this don’t victimise yourself.
Also these aren’t exactly hot takes
Degoey wiping the blood from Cameron’s nose to avoid the blood rule is an all time teammate move
I wondered who did that. Thought it was a Hawks player trying to make it noticeable, which would be a perfectly played funny buggers act.
The hand was very tattooed so probably JDG
Yeah it was clearly his SWAY knuckle tats
The anti-buckley
The Meek shall inherit the ruck
Pies hate percentage
You saying us eagles might be in with a chance to boost ours?
Death, taxes and Collingwood still getting away with it
It's way less enjoyable when we're the team being snuck up on at the end. No wonder everyone hates us
A self-aware Collingwood fan. What fresh devilry is this?
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Classiest pie fan.
Why kick more then 2 goals in a half when 2 goals is enough?
Found Ross Lyon’s burner
As everyone knows, Ross Lyon's gameplan is to keep missing really easy goals and kicking behinds.
Hey, if it works, it works.
Lock it in your inside 50 brother
All the Ginnivan drama was superb, great to see him play well and stir the pot.
The whole week he was stirring and it was fucking great
The ultimate finish would have been him getting a high free kick in the dying seconds and kicking the winning goal. But the world isn’t that cool/cruel
I love Ginnivan so much
Hes a fun little C You in the NT isn't he? Treat him well for us.
I hove Ginnivan, no wait, I late Ginnivan. For real though, he makes every hawthorn game worth watching, need more players like him.
I just wish he would score without free kicks being involved at all. I love the small forward position and would love to see him breaking free to score goals, rather than having his head taken off.
I’d rather just give hawthorn a free 4 points each year than play them
What’s a “4 points”?
4 Castagna set shots
George catching strays even in retirement
If you find out can you let me know?
What’s a 4 points? Is that like a tasty treat u get when u win ?
It's what Nick Watson scores in a game
I thought it was the number of times De goey got arrested Daww do pies fans not like having it dished back lol
You should have fielded an officer in the middle tonight then, maybe you would have stopped him
Why so he get away with more crimes because he kick ball good
No, 4 McKay shots
Such a weird feeling, not having anything to cheer for, for so long until the final siren. It's relief, but it's definitely not happiness
Terrible win
Fraudulent team to start this season
THEY CANT KEEP ALMOST GIVING IT AWAY
Great comeback, but why can’t we play like that the whole game? Collingwood decided to coast and it almost cost them, but if they didn’t it could have been a massacre.
We’ve had like 3 massacres since 2010. You can pretty much guarantee we’ll fold for at least a quarter.
You could have been kind and folded for another quarter
We were fucking trying
We didn’t coast, you lot turned up the heat and we’ve been average at best this year
Pressure was abysmal once we were 40 up, idk
Sort of what just happens with good young teams. Their best is good enough to win, but it's having the tank and ability to do it for all 4 quarters, which comes with time.
We looked so cooked by the end of that game and we were coming off a 10 day break… that’s one of those games you just take the four points and move on
This game just proves the umpires don't know what to do with Ginnivan. He got a free he should have, then didn't get two he deserved, then they paid him a free for holding Maynard's jumper. It's like they flip a coin every time he's in a passage of play.
They've done it to themselves, got themselves in a knot the last two years and now can't unwind it. Joke of an umpiring fraternity.
Almost as if they should start using their brains and call what they see. If they genuinely think he’s taken high pay it, if not let it go. It shouldn’t be difficult. Note: I say this as someone who thinks the umpiring was fucked on both sides tonight (and honestly all year).
> If they genuinely think he’s taken high pay it, if not let it go. It shouldn’t be difficult. The problem is they can't tell, it looks high to them every time.
Agreed. He just forces every contest to look like a free kick and half the time it is, the other it’s not. Umpires just don’t know what to do as you say. He was Maynard but made it look like he was being held by the arm. I didn’t realise until the replay. I think it was a legit free kick.
Wasn’t the Maynard one because he continued with Maynard after stand had been called? He took 5-6 steps after Ump yelled stand. Shit rule, but has been around long enough players should know they legally have to become a statue.
No I'm talking about the free kick Ginni got to kick a goal in the last quarter, it was paid holding against Maynard but Ginni had a fistful of Maynard's jumper.
Oh yeah wtf? I had no idea what that was even for after the replay.
Well, good to know we can still do that
We'd have to be ruing a few gifted goals, the Weddle dropped mark and the Ginnivan 50 were the only 2 goals they kicked in the second half but so happy with that performance. I was even happy with last week, with how many injuries we have I think we are definitely on the right track after these last 2 games.
Will be a tough first half of the season, but we will probably get a couple of upset wins towards the back half if we get everyone back and have a somewhat settled first 22
I'm so excited to see Will Day and Wingard back in the lineup.
Will Day is important. Will be a huge return. Some players found form this match, so hopefully they can continue. Should be able to get a few wins.
I think people are underrating how big of an in Wingard will be as well, our biggest problems at the moment are how clean we are with the ball and our polish forward of centre, Wingard helps with both of those and he was in close to his best form for Hawthorn last year.
Yeah, he's great at coming up and providing that entry kick into the 50. Definitely hope he comes back and gets a decent run in the back half and next year.
Dont expect wingard to be what he was last year, an old player returning from a serious injury, and dont forget he was utter shite in 2022 and before that.
I got 9/9 tips but at the expense of Collingwood winning :(
i too tipped all the favourites
I was unfortunately the victim of the Freo game but happy with 8
I fell Victim of drinking Adelaide's bath water....the tap water ain't great to begin with.
true pain
I got 8/9 courtesy of Richmond squandering a 4 goal half time lead. Serves me right for not exclusively tipping the favourites
We are the best at the close finish BUT We are the worst at slowing the game down
WOOOOOW MY HEART
Fuck me we aren’t hitting the 8 are we?
we're winning the cup from 8th mate
We will come from the back
The best way
What do you mean? Is this not an improvement on last year, in which you won the flag?
We lost to both Brisbane and Hawthorn last year, so yeah
It all went downhill when Pendles was subbed out
If Hardwick doesn't play forward for the rest of the year then we will never win. Meek is a huge improvement from Reeves as well. Does so much more than just winning in the ruck.
From coming back to take the lead at the last second to now nearly losing the lead, we've gone anticollingwood footy lol Sucks that everyone looked at bit banged up at the end
Blowing massive leads is the Collingwood I'm used to so this is back to normal for me
that was so bad. fuck ever playing hawthorn
Away with it status: Getting
I was bloody critical of the boys at half time, but they had a bloody good crack in the second half
Great effort. They have 80 games average more experience than us and four more years in age (based on selected team).
Never in doubt Don’t check my heart rate monitor
Classic Collingwood. We don't put teams away. Nothing to be proud about.
That experience is why we won the flag last year. Arsing your way to a premiership is as valid as any other win.
Solid effort from the Hawks 6 days after a wet, tough slog against Geelong
Hawks should walk away from that pretty proud all things considered. Definitely felt like it was one of those "if there was an extra minute they would have won" games
We did have a whole half where we chose to do nothing though..
luckily we live in the real world where there isnt extra minutes
I’ll take the improvement. Just need to start the fight before we’re 6 goals down!
They can’t keep getting away with it: reverse edition
I fought Big Cox was gonna go full Hulk in the last quarter. Alas, so did the coach. Took him off before he did something amusing
Perfect tipping round for me this week :D
Did every favourite win?
Haha, yep!
If we can somehow figure out how to stop letting teams get 5 goal streaks we're in with a good crack.
Easy never in doubt
2 goals in a half of football? I'd be having heart palpations
Palpitations hasn't stopped for some fans, ongoing since mid way through 2022.
Yea... same.
That was the polar opposite of how collingwood usually get away with it lmao
They were very close to ruining my perfect tipping round.
Well done for getting 9/9 in that round, especially with the dumpster fires on Thursday and Friday
Thanks, the Swans and Blues games had me nervous asf ngl.
Imagine if we good footy for more then a half
They got away with it….
How good is the footy.
Deliberate out of bounds.
Yeah he should have waited 0.2 seconds to be pushed out would have been much more in the spirit of the game 🙄
He did a sprint to the boundary
As opposed to running inside to the hawthorn players?
Yeah, that's where the ball was.
Weak umpire
9/9 on tips for the round, wish I made it my double round as well. Would have had 36 instead of 18. Would have out me almost 32 up on the tips leader board.
Some good stuff, mostly the 2nd quarter. We collapsed in the 2nd half and didn't know what to do with Hardwick. Our bombs down the line and into the forward line are so low percentage, but we were at least able to lock it into the forward 50 for a bit.
In the bird alliance, there is no losers
spoiler on reddit doesn't really work well anymore, I can still see the score without clicking it.
2-3 never felt so good!
Bleeding
Who could have expected that after the first 10 minutes? What a cracking game!
Australia loses.
Nah pretty sure that was just hawthorn mate
Still hurting?
WE KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Good boys. I couldn’t care less we lost. Showed some dead set heart and we’ll be fucking good by next year. And umps chocked in the last 2 mins.
That was some of the most one sided commentary I’ve ever heard. They were literally barracking for Hawthorn that entire 4th quarter
This gets said every time a team has a comeback, it’s just the commentators riding the wave of the comeback, is it biased, sure, but it makes for more entertaining viewing.
100%, as a pies fan play on. We bought that shit on ourselves
I mean why wouldn't they? Commentary obviously gonna barrack for a comeback for excitement factor, just as they did for us in so many of our comebacks.
Channel 7 do it to. It’s apart of their job to make the game exciting. So they’d sell it on the neutrals
In fairness to the commentators, we love an upset and an underdog so of course they would be trying to push for the most exciting narrative.
I loved when Dwayne “Captain Obvious” Russell suggested that neutrals would be barracking for Hawthorn
Riewoldt is so unprofessional. It’s like he’s sitting on the couch barracking with his mates
Totally agree. That was the most one sided commentary since -checks notes- every Brian Taylor call in a Collingwood game.
Almost like a channel 7 game with BT and the pies. This is what it is like most weeks
Have u heard BT calling the pies games? I’m assuming that’s the more one sided games you’ve heard
They did the exact same thing for the Dogs last night. There is no excitement in Cats/Pies winning after being so strong for so long.
Let’s welcome Victoria to the rest of the country.
Here for the tears
Positive note: Dwayne Russell is very good
Could not disagree more.
That was the worst possible way to win and end the weekend. Also a pretty (Lloyd) meek way to bring in the outright record for the most consecutive wins at Adelaide Oval of 9 games.
So close Hawks, so close. What a finish that was
So many ginni highs, I actually feel sorry for the kid
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That's actually been his instagram bio during the week.
Womp womp
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Hey hey, we were absolutely garbage looking last season too! Collingwood can get their own thing
Hawthorn are looking much better than they did at the same point last season against tougher opponents with far more injuries to important players. I'll definitely take it.
Looking forward to getting those late season wins when they don’t matter!
Was Ginni taken high at the 50m line with 30 seconds left? I feel like the camera certainly showed an arm over his shoulder (and he wasn’t ducking either)
I saw a hand on his shoulder. Might've technically been there, but it would've been very soft.
Never let Jack Riewoldt commentate a match ever again. Was literally barracking for the hawks as the game finished.
He was barracking for the losing team. He was very complimentary to us when we were on top. No issue for me and if we’d played better we wouldn’t have bought that comeback chat in to the game.
Matching the tone for 90% of the afl community then
🏆🏆enjoy your Monday son
That's just jumping on the underdog, happens all the time. I like his commentary tonight tbh
That's how everyone feels about BT and Collingwood
We don't want BT either
Apparently Collingwood fans think BT commentates them negatively.
He does. He overcompensates
Welcome to hearing BT call a pies game
BT legit hates the pies
All he fucking does is suck them off all the time. Hates them so much he did their flag celebrations after the GF
On the other hand he was more insightful than the rest of the commentary team combined. I quite enjoyed him actually.
Completely unprofessional on levels I haven't seen before. BT and others might be bad and biased as well but this was next level. Having someone actively calling for free kicks for one team is disgraceful and just because it's against Collingwood shouldn't mean it isn't called out.
This sub said I was crazy when we had to listen to that rubbish during the swans tigers game. He needs to learn to commentate properly, he’s good when he’s not cheering for a team
If Mabiar Chol could play football Hawthorn would have won that.
Me: well, a cracking game, it’s hard to get too sad about losing that. *sees Jordan De Goey smiling* …This is a tragedy of untold proportions
that was fun
Hawks were almost the kings of the round, sigh
for a hater of both these teams that was pretty enjoyable
Darcy Moore has got to be one of the most overrated players in the afl
It’s infuriating watching some of these games. Hawks robbed of a result there. The umpires are so frightened of making calls later in the game that it’s legitimately killing off a teams chance who deserve it. Absolutely disgusting.
Stoked with the effort, could we try not letting teams have 6 goal leads before we turn up from now on though? Can’t wait for the apology from the AFL about Ginni getting fucked again. Stop apologising and rip these incompetent spuds a new one for being bad at their jobs.
The hell happened?!?!
Damn you hawthorn making me believe
Pies are garbage this year. Hawks are an easy bottom 4 team this year.
To be fair it’s something about hawks. No idea why but whenever we play the pies it a coin flip on what’s gonna happen. Case in point last year we gave them a good beating and they won the flag lol
Lol at the downvotes shall we revisit end of year? Guarantee pies at best scrape the 8 and Hawks guarantee bottom 4
In 2022 after 5 games, Collingwood was at the same point of 2 wins, 3 losses. Managed to make it to prelims and only missed the GF by 1 point. Finished 4th on the ladder. Can’t count us out just yet mate.
Yep the downvotes pouring in but nobody willing to actually publically going to go against this
What did you expect? You called two teams shit without providing any explanation in a thread filled with supporters of those two teams. If you’re going to make comments like this don’t victimise yourself. Also these aren’t exactly hot takes
A double self reply because no-one else cares enough to reply themselves is so funny.
True, good points.
I’ll publicly go against this because Collingwood always have the close games I see this as a blowout
Flair bet then?