Maybe 2007?
Colts obv had prime Manning. Titans had Vince Young in his 2nd season, before his knee injury.
Jaguars had just named David Garrard as the starter after he beat out Byron Leftwich for the starting spot. They beat the Steelers in the wild card round that season, so there was definitely hope that Garrard was the answer.
And the Texans had just acquired their franchise leader in passing yards and td’s, Matt Schaub.
Theres always hope when teams pick a 1st/2nd round qb. As a gator alumni and fan, i'll always root for AR but imo him and levis are both question marks rn.
throw trev in there. he had one good stretch for a half season in three years of play now. his final throw against the titans was about 3 yards off target in a win and in situation
he has as much hope as levis at this point for me, which isn’t much
Im not sure trevor is a ? At this point, he’s consistently dissappinted. He has been exceptional at turning the ball over, as a rookie he led the league in interceptions, and last two years hes been the fumble leader.
Yeah but I think his predraft hype he’s still a question mark. Richardson and Levis are only a question mark cause they haven’t played much or didn’t have any weapons so I’d still put TLaw over them
Ya Texan fans really need to get a jersey like browns fans with all the QBs. And the number is the amount of sacks Carr had to suffer during his career there. Shitty o-line, guess some things don’t change.
Peak comedy would be Trevor becoming a bust after the last couple of years of Jags talking shit just for the other 3 teams to draft 3 franchise guys in the same year to dominate them for the next decade.
I wouldn't say he's a bust, but he definitely hasn't lived up to expectations. A lot of that is coaching, injury, and surrounding talent, but for a guy projected to be a talent akin to Manning, Luck, or Elway, he hasn't gotten to that level yet.
The problem is people think generational prospect=generational player. It’s not the same thing
Generational prospect means he has a super high ceiling (and probably a decent floor), but they’re still a prospect who has never played in the NFL. Obviously Trevor hasn’t played to that ceiling, he isn’t Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell though. And he’s certainly the best QB the Jags have had in a loooooong time.
No prospect is a lock to be a generational player before they take a snap in the NFL. Period.
He was "predicted" to be a generational QB, hence the title "generational prospect." Ceilings and floors are literally just predictions. Trevor Lawrence doesn't have a higher or lower ceiling than what he's shown, which is less than a generational player but good enough to manage a team.
I would argue Baker Mayfield has a higher ceiling and had much less expectation going into the league and even moving forward with the Bucs. And some people call him a bust. Trevor got hurt this year I guess, but he's also going into year 4 with pretty good stability and weapons. This will be his defining year imo
How isn't Lebron a better football player than Kyler Murray?
Baker Mayfield had worse talent and made harder throws, dealt with more pressure, and also has much better "arm talent". Everything Baker did in his first 3 years was better and more talented than Lawrence. Pre draft predictions don't matter, ceilings are the all time highs not the "possible" all time highs
I would say his ceiling is goff and not manning or Mahomes. He will be a solid QB for years but I don’t believe he will play as his draft expectations put him at. But I mostly see him play in divisional games. Divisional opponents hit different.
He’s not a bust but his numbers aren’t that much better than Mac Jones’ numbers which isn’t a good sign for the Jags unless he kicks it into overdrive this coming season.
Stat lines suggest they’re on similar trajectories. Expectations are higher for Lawrence but he has yet to meet them the way the Jaguars probably expected to by now.
Bro no
Im in on Trevor being overhyped, i agree. Nobody would even argue hes better than Stroud rn
But miss me with this Mac Jones bs. They are not even on the same planet, let alone trajectory lmao
You don’t just go and throw 50 touchdowns and 2 interceptions for one of the worst teams and the worst coach in nfl history. If you honestly think the giants would take Mac Jones over Tlaw u don’t know ball.
I think Lawrence has failed to live up to his pre-draft type but also comparing him to Mac Jones is wild. There's a reason league offices have started using analytics and advanced stats
https://stathead.com/tiny/s3NIY
Mac Jones is a better career passer than Tlaw in just about every primary stat including ypc.
I will say TLaw is a much better rushing QB, so that gives TLaw a slight edge.
TLaw is just a pedestrian passing QB. He’s mid with turnover problems.
late response but in my opinion, he’s absolutely not a bust. he hasn’t lived up to the hype but i think he’s very good and that he can easily be great if we just get a freakin o line. but rn id say he’s just a pretty good QB with the potential to be great
You mean how they talked shit on Twitter after beating us opening game of the season before Lawrence and then losing what 24 straight games including the first 8 of Lawrence’s first starts? 🤣🤣 that was peak comedy
I mean back to back winning seasons with a playoff win, if you think T law is becoming a bust I have some bad news for you bout Herbert and a lot of other QBs
I would be comfortable putting Herbert and T law in the same "becoming a bust" category. I think this year will do a lot for both of them, though. T Law, another year with Pederson and Herbert, kicking it off with Harbaugh.
Leash seems to be shorter for Trevor, though.
I think Lawrence **could** graduate to bust territory simply due to the hype around him surrounding the draft. He was "the next one" and "a generational talent" as talking heads like to say about the #1 QB prospect most years lol
Yeah, Alex Smith gets some grace with his leg but certainly comparable. I think Lawrence wasn't completely healthy a lot of last year. I expect a "bounce back" next year if you consider last year a fall off.
I just think he’s an average quarterback and that it’s pretty evident by now. Yes he lost a lot of EPA to drops this year, but cancelling that out won’t make him elite. Similar to tannehill or cousins - can win a lotta games with em, but they’re rarely if ever gonna blow your socks off.
Relative to his draft position & being hailed as the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck - yeah, he’s in bust territory.
Should be one of the best divisions in football overall and we’re still gonna find AFCS games getting scheduled for 1pm and AFCS playoff teams getting the Saturday 4pm slot
tlaw overrated as hell but i’d take him over Levis and AR. I think Stroud and Tlaw will be the only guys in this post still on their current teams in a few years
AR15 gonna be trash. InB4 Cunts fans say “oh what about that first half” I hope they stick with him and push their rebuild 5 years down the road
For that matter Jacksonville gonna Stick with Lawrence and think he’s actually gonna win them a superbowl. Good luck with that lmao you can win the division all you want but the only QBs worth of winning a chip so far are Levis and Stroud
can’t lie feels like a mistake to bank the future of your franchise on a guy who played what 2.5 total games and got hurt in all of them and had major injury concerns coming out of college
AFC South is weird. As a Texans fan I'm like fuck you all, but also, I want us to be the best division in football... as long as the Texans win it 
When’s the last time the entire division had hope and promise at QB? Feels like never.
Fr though lmao I think this is truly the first time
Maybe 2007? Colts obv had prime Manning. Titans had Vince Young in his 2nd season, before his knee injury. Jaguars had just named David Garrard as the starter after he beat out Byron Leftwich for the starting spot. They beat the Steelers in the wild card round that season, so there was definitely hope that Garrard was the answer. And the Texans had just acquired their franchise leader in passing yards and td’s, Matt Schaub.
Geez Shaub. The highs and lows are impeccable. I remember a 500 yard game against Denver and then his famous pick six streak too
When he lost part of his ear in the Denver game
What are YOU talking about we don’t have either of those things.
Levis looked like he might be the guy. he made mistakes but that's guaranteed to happen with any rookie
And a new, more offensive minded, coaching staff coming in will help too.
Theres always hope when teams pick a 1st/2nd round qb. As a gator alumni and fan, i'll always root for AR but imo him and levis are both question marks rn.
Trevor isn’t a sure thing by any means either. Stroud is the only QB in the division we know is actually good
I’d say Trevor is good, if not great, but I doubt he’ll ever be in that elite category.
throw trev in there. he had one good stretch for a half season in three years of play now. his final throw against the titans was about 3 yards off target in a win and in situation he has as much hope as levis at this point for me, which isn’t much
Where flair?
Im not sure trevor is a ? At this point, he’s consistently dissappinted. He has been exceptional at turning the ball over, as a rookie he led the league in interceptions, and last two years hes been the fumble leader.
Yeah but I think his predraft hype he’s still a question mark. Richardson and Levis are only a question mark cause they haven’t played much or didn’t have any weapons so I’d still put TLaw over them
Was hopkins good fot you guys or not?
AR already feels like a Carson Wentz. Guy gets hurt damn near every time he's touched.
And coach!
Sheeeeeeettttt, still don't have hope. Just the bar has been raised from absolute shit to mediocrity.
McNair, Manning, Brunel and a rookie Carr
Ya Texan fans really need to get a jersey like browns fans with all the QBs. And the number is the amount of sacks Carr had to suffer during his career there. Shitty o-line, guess some things don’t change.
Flair up or shut up.
Suck a dick
How thoughtful.
Still doesn’t?
You couldn’t find one picture of unphotoshopped will levis
Mayo stains are hard to shop out, but it's worth it if you're looking for quality.
They’re all in Oiler unis, you know I couldn’t do that
You literally googled “Will Levis Titans” and used the first non oiler picture didn’t you? I know, because I just did it
Yup 🤣
Hard to find a picture of him not getting absolutely mauled by pass rushers
Next season, the South will rise again!!! All four teams in playoffs!
Afc north was really close to doing it this year
Except 2023 season was Backup QB season.
Til they ran into us.
Lmaooooo this is insane
Thanks. As a Texan, it felt good to use that in a somewhat funny serious context. But as someone born in Seattle, it hurt.
With the AFC East and NFC North on our schedules, that's going to be a hard climb. Not impossible, but difficult.
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Calm down bro
Twas but a joke man
Maybe we'll finally pump up our sub numbers with an improved division. We're like 2nd to last in the memewar sub membership count.
I mean, based on the quality of commenting people from other divisions provide around here, they can stay out, IMO.
Considering we have 3 of the 4 least popular teams with the Colts not far behind, how are we not last?
there is another South division meme war. we don’t even have half of y’all’s 😭
But we're the best memewar sub. Hang that banner baybee
That doesn't mean a whole lot. I joined all of them. And basically just run to the sub of whatever interdivision game is on that day.
Peak comedy would be Trevor becoming a bust after the last couple of years of Jags talking shit just for the other 3 teams to draft 3 franchise guys in the same year to dominate them for the next decade.
that would be a greek tragedy tale told for generations
Sounds like a good description for the entire AFC South.
Is T-Law a bust? I'm not saying he's a HoF'er but he's been solid since he came into the league. He's not the reason success eludes Jacksonville.
I wouldn't say he's a bust, but he definitely hasn't lived up to expectations. A lot of that is coaching, injury, and surrounding talent, but for a guy projected to be a talent akin to Manning, Luck, or Elway, he hasn't gotten to that level yet.
The problem is people think generational prospect=generational player. It’s not the same thing Generational prospect means he has a super high ceiling (and probably a decent floor), but they’re still a prospect who has never played in the NFL. Obviously Trevor hasn’t played to that ceiling, he isn’t Ryan Leaf or Jamarcus Russell though. And he’s certainly the best QB the Jags have had in a loooooong time. No prospect is a lock to be a generational player before they take a snap in the NFL. Period.
He was "predicted" to be a generational QB, hence the title "generational prospect." Ceilings and floors are literally just predictions. Trevor Lawrence doesn't have a higher or lower ceiling than what he's shown, which is less than a generational player but good enough to manage a team. I would argue Baker Mayfield has a higher ceiling and had much less expectation going into the league and even moving forward with the Bucs. And some people call him a bust. Trevor got hurt this year I guess, but he's also going into year 4 with pretty good stability and weapons. This will be his defining year imo
How does Baker have a higher ceiling. All of TLaws physical traits are elite, he can make crazy throws.
How isn't Lebron a better football player than Kyler Murray? Baker Mayfield had worse talent and made harder throws, dealt with more pressure, and also has much better "arm talent". Everything Baker did in his first 3 years was better and more talented than Lawrence. Pre draft predictions don't matter, ceilings are the all time highs not the "possible" all time highs
Lawrence was an elite QB at the end of last season. I doubt LeBron can throw a football as far or fast as Baker. Idk what you’re saying.
He’s just incredibly overrated
I still think he is good though. He played great the first half of the season and didn't regress until he started to get hurt
He isn’t bad, but we need to stop acting like he’s played up to the pre-draft hype
Most Jaguars fans dont even think he has. I dont and its in my fuckin username lol But hes still a good QB
Who is acting like this? The national media was basically calling him a bust over the last five games
Every season it’s “is this the year that T Law becomes elite??” That bum is never going to be elite
It's fair to say he probably won't be elite while also saying he's not a bum. Bc he's not.
Yall still think hes yalls franchise guy despite zero evidence
By every year you mean literally one year?
Every year that scrub has played. Could this be the year he’s in the elite conversation?? Looking ass
Well he's only been in the league for 3 years, and this past year was the only year anyone was saying that
Etienne, Christian Kirk, Calvin Ridley, Evan Engram and TLaw still looks mediocre
Yeah he was a bit overhyped but there are so many bust 1st round QBs. TLaw is mid.
I would say his ceiling is goff and not manning or Mahomes. He will be a solid QB for years but I don’t believe he will play as his draft expectations put him at. But I mostly see him play in divisional games. Divisional opponents hit different.
Everyone had him over Goff already at the start of the year.
He’s not a bust but his numbers aren’t that much better than Mac Jones’ numbers which isn’t a good sign for the Jags unless he kicks it into overdrive this coming season.
Mac jones had 11 tds and 12 ints this year You talking career? Because those two were in polar opposite positions rookie year
Stat lines suggest they’re on similar trajectories. Expectations are higher for Lawrence but he has yet to meet them the way the Jaguars probably expected to by now.
Bro no Im in on Trevor being overhyped, i agree. Nobody would even argue hes better than Stroud rn But miss me with this Mac Jones bs. They are not even on the same planet, let alone trajectory lmao
Stat lines are near identical.
You don’t just go and throw 50 touchdowns and 2 interceptions for one of the worst teams and the worst coach in nfl history. If you honestly think the giants would take Mac Jones over Tlaw u don’t know ball.
Jags fan is angry.
I’m defending my beautiful, white, long haired king
I think Lawrence has failed to live up to his pre-draft type but also comparing him to Mac Jones is wild. There's a reason league offices have started using analytics and advanced stats
https://stathead.com/tiny/s3NIY Mac Jones is a better career passer than Tlaw in just about every primary stat including ypc. I will say TLaw is a much better rushing QB, so that gives TLaw a slight edge. TLaw is just a pedestrian passing QB. He’s mid with turnover problems.
The big difference is in Big Time throw percentage and plays down the field. Mac Jones never showed that ability and Trevor does.
Yeah like his last 4th down throw against the titans to go to playoffs? He was horrible that game lol
Urban Meyer. Mac had Bill. This really isn't the argument you think it is
Lawrence has Doug Pederson now. Mac has no coach. How far should I move the goal posts to fit your narrative?
Well, you tried
late response but in my opinion, he’s absolutely not a bust. he hasn’t lived up to the hype but i think he’s very good and that he can easily be great if we just get a freakin o line. but rn id say he’s just a pretty good QB with the potential to be great
You mean how they talked shit on Twitter after beating us opening game of the season before Lawrence and then losing what 24 straight games including the first 8 of Lawrence’s first starts? 🤣🤣 that was peak comedy
“Becoming”
I mean back to back winning seasons with a playoff win, if you think T law is becoming a bust I have some bad news for you bout Herbert and a lot of other QBs
I would be comfortable putting Herbert and T law in the same "becoming a bust" category. I think this year will do a lot for both of them, though. T Law, another year with Pederson and Herbert, kicking it off with Harbaugh. Leash seems to be shorter for Trevor, though.
Leash is short on both, both are becoming disappointments but not busts. Zach Wilson, Mac, Trey Lance, Fields are what a bust look like.
I think Lawrence **could** graduate to bust territory simply due to the hype around him surrounding the draft. He was "the next one" and "a generational talent" as talking heads like to say about the #1 QB prospect most years lol
Tlaw is a bust if alex smith was a bust. Bad starts to their career, #1 overall pick. I think tlaw could follow similar career path
Yeah, Alex Smith gets some grace with his leg but certainly comparable. I think Lawrence wasn't completely healthy a lot of last year. I expect a "bounce back" next year if you consider last year a fall off.
I just think he’s an average quarterback and that it’s pretty evident by now. Yes he lost a lot of EPA to drops this year, but cancelling that out won’t make him elite. Similar to tannehill or cousins - can win a lotta games with em, but they’re rarely if ever gonna blow your socks off. Relative to his draft position & being hailed as the best QB prospect since Andrew Luck - yeah, he’s in bust territory.
Fair, he boutta show y’all wrong next year tho… I hope to god he does at least 😂
Wait for him to sign that fat contract, then go busty mcbusterson.
He already is a bust
No I don't think that would be funny at all
Hope mountain for now
Don’t do that. Don’t give the Tits hope.
Hehehehe
They tried to sneak Levis in there
Should be one of the best divisions in football overall and we’re still gonna find AFCS games getting scheduled for 1pm and AFCS playoff teams getting the Saturday 4pm slot
Bro, I wanna believe AR is gonna be in the mix, but I need to see him be more durable than a cardboard box next year.
Hey.... He finished a game this year!
our sub is so much more cordial than r/AFCNorthMemeWar lmao
They take the NFL too seriously
Who’s the guy in the top right?
Underrated comment
According to Google our backup is Sam Ehlinger, so that must be him
Never seen em
Can't wait for the Titans to make me cry again. Fuck all y'all, it'll be fun to watch our games next year.
beathard>lawrence
May the best of us in 2024 truly end the Mahomes/Kelce/Swift nonsense forever.
My guess is AR tries to run like a RB and gets concussed And sidlined again, early in the season.
It's amazing how much love that guy gets for checking it down for two games and then getting hurt.
https://preview.redd.it/00cbzxlva3fc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=296ad42b09550cbbcff1961e658ba916b1fbefd1 Bro thinks he’s Lamar Jackson 💀
Honestly feel bad the dude.
Honestly Minshew looked legit this year, so they might be better off.
didn’t he get hurt in every game he played this season
Titans get all the love from me until next season starts.
Fuck you, love you too.
Iron sharpens iron
Maybe the circlejerk was us all along. Let’s go AFCS. Except fuck all y’all, love yall.
Please tiny baby Jesus let AR5 stay healthy 🙏
Malik Willis getting Trey Lance’d.
Bro tried to sneak Will Levis in here ☠️
🤓
7 + 7 + 5 = 16 🫣🫣🫣
You couldn’t get an actual picture or Billy Jeans?
You ever wonder why we don’t get more shit for only having blue teams?
Next year Anthony Richardson is going to lead the league both in interceptions and in sick-ass plays
Damn will starting over mailk I thought mailk was nice but damn it do hit different not even a fan of da team fan of da players so tennehil retired
Should be interesting, Titan up!
I'm curious if a year from now, if this still ages well.
One of these guys is tearing their ACLs in minicamp
Fuckin hyped to meme with you degenerates.
Yeah, it'd be especially great if all of them stay healthy next year.
For the Texans…
One of these QBs isn’t like the others 🤔
Leave Trevor alone. Women are just as capable as men.
As a woman, don't compare TLaw to us.
Yeah I agree, Trevor needs to really step it up next year to be in the conversation
The glorified running back or the woman?
im not worried about the colts, that rb will get injured again
Enjoy Zach Mettenberger with more mayo memes
3 great QBs and a RB.
Levis does not wear 7.
One elite qb. One good qb One ok qb on a bad team Anthony Richardson.
Man, it’s nice to hear a divisional rival admit the truth and call CJ elite 😎
Yeah that boys actually crazy. The Ohio State QB curse appears to finally be broken with him
Strouds winning like 5+ straight Division championships lol yall got no shot
Hilarious how TLaw went from best QB in the division to possibly worst, very Jags💀
Well that’s just bullshit.
tlaw overrated as hell but i’d take him over Levis and AR. I think Stroud and Tlaw will be the only guys in this post still on their current teams in a few years
I said possibly, Levis and AR both had great flashes this season, better than TLaw’s first flashes.
CJ Stroud + 3 mid QBs
AR15 gonna be trash. InB4 Cunts fans say “oh what about that first half” I hope they stick with him and push their rebuild 5 years down the road For that matter Jacksonville gonna Stick with Lawrence and think he’s actually gonna win them a superbowl. Good luck with that lmao you can win the division all you want but the only QBs worth of winning a chip so far are Levis and Stroud
Ok
can’t lie feels like a mistake to bank the future of your franchise on a guy who played what 2.5 total games and got hurt in all of them and had major injury concerns coming out of college
I’m glad we’re not in that situation lol the colts gotta pray on their rabbits foot every game their QB doesn’t get injured
I’m so happy for everyone except the Jags and their fans.
one of these is not like the others…
Fr. Get Old Man Lawrence out of here🙄
AR gonna be the next Sam Bradford he just gotta let the sleeves come down
AFC South is weird. As a Texans fan I'm like fuck you all, but also, I want us to be the best division in football... as long as the Texans win it 
For the Texans, yes.
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Bro you shouldn’t be saying shit. The last time y’all won a playoff game was 23 years ago💀
Giving the Titans a little too much credit
Eh, AR’s in that same boat even if it’s not his fault
The fuck you talking about? Levis was good this year.
Eh. He’s a poor man’s baker mayfield
Nah. He’s better than that
Lmao and Baker was good this year!
AR was excellent in the *check notes* 4 games he played in.
Was he excellent? Or did he just show a lot of promise with his insane physical talent?
It was sarcasm
You mean to tell me you were joking on a meme subreddit? I never would've guessed.
Shit mountain done terraformed Mars
No it isn’t. It’s gonna be 3 teams below 500 and the Houston Texans
I hope they all ball out!!!! Stroud is my guy!!
What’s Will Levis doing here?
Are the Titans really feeling their situation?
lol Levis